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Old 08-28-2010, 05:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have some events going on in my life right now that really reached a breaking point yesterday. My rational mind is trying hard to explain what is going on, but fails to give a satisfactory answer. Is everything just coincidence? Am I just remembering\selecting elements from reality out there to conform to the negative pattern I am experiencing from "out there"?

In thinking about all this I was reminded of my reading Pavlina's Subjective Reality posts not too long ago. I found it interesting, but it wasn't for me at the time following in my rational mind. To make my story as short as possible here - I was raised from a very early age by a mother who is a true believer in the law-of-attraction and went to a church that taught these principles. Was a big believer and even active practitioner into my early adults years but eventually dropped it completely. Now I describe my attitude towards it as somewhat rational (i.e. can explained through cognitive bias) and skeptic.

However, I'm finding myself opening to the possibility of trying my own Subjective Reality experiment. Maybe the painful, negative pattern I'm experiencing is part of manifestation? Another explanation are that this is my karma - and I'm just getting my payback for some past life transgression. I know this isn't rational on some level my rational mind tells me, but it cannot give me a good answer as to why things keep repeating over and over and over and really just piled on this past month. Selection\confirmation bias just aren't adding up.

So what do I need to do to say reverse possible Subjective Reality that would be manifesting the undesired pattern and turn it into a positive?
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Old 08-31-2010, 12:33 AM   #2 (permalink)
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All right. Its been about two days and no responses so I guess I will bump this. Interestingly enough I imagined\visualized getting a reply the first night. I guess I'm in big trouble if I can't even manifest a simple reply in a Intention-Manifestation forum. That or my skeptical mind has been right all along. Now that's a bit of paradox.
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Is anybody rational? Including me? Or my emotions? Or your feelings?

What things do you feel you have been manifesting out of negative thought patterns? That usually points to the thoughts themselves.
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Old 08-31-2010, 02:03 AM   #4 (permalink)
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So what do I need to do to say reverse possible Subjective Reality that would be manifesting the undesired pattern and turn it into a positive?
Firstly, you do not really have to reverse subjective reality. Subjective reality is only what you (or I) think it is.

I would say, how do you know that the way you are interpreting what you are seeing is correct? This is a subjective reality, so you can interpret them how you like.

Look at how you, at present, are interpreting (thinking/assuming/concluding) (some) things you see are negative. In my experience, my so called negative experiences, especially the seriously negative ones, have greatly added to my growing understanding. So much so that I usually have trouble seeing anything as negative, and when I do I usually see that this is only a personal interpretation based on a present understanding, and shows the limited and limiting nature of this understanding.
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I have had a long, sustained pattern of artistic-sales avenues improbably crashing and burning on me. I have good reason to believe that "negative manifestation" happens!
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Old 08-31-2010, 10:53 AM   #6 (permalink)
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So what do I need to do to say reverse possible Subjective Reality that would be manifesting the undesired pattern and turn it into a positive?
First: you have to change your nick into Certain .
Kidding . Try something like this, helps to me if I'm in bad situation: when you were a kid, have you ever pretend that you are someone else (actually, not someone else, wrong words, but better, stronger, prettier, more famous in some way - or something like that)? Have you ever imagined that you are traveling through the space, or have a lot of money, that the circumstances in which you are living are different...? So if you did, you know how does it feel - and it feels good .

So now, if you could change your situation instantly - what would you want to happen? Imagine that it is happening, pretend a little bit that it is happening. You don't have to manifest it right away, you are feeling better with just pretending, aren't you? Be in that place for a while, think of details, just enjoy your imagination, without high expectation - it's only a game. Play that game every day, for enjoyment, cause it makes you feel better, not for the purpose of manifestation. When you play it and just think of fast manifestation, you are full of resistance and doubts - you constantly check "reality", and if nothing changes you feel doubts, so you are offering vibration of doubts... Just try to play for a while, you may like it even if nothing out there happens. It's free, it's fun, it's ok for grown up people to play...

In that way, eventually, it will come - maybe not exactly the way you were imagine it, but it will .
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@st33med

I definitely don't consider emotions\feelings rational. I do have to remind myself today that they definitely are temporary. The intensity of the negative emotions have worn off from when I first posted and I do feel little less motivated - till the next round.

As far as thoughts, I'm generally pretty clear on how I'm thinking. I tend not to dwell on this problem until some event out there reminds me.
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I would say, how do you know that the way you are interpreting what you are seeing is correct? This is a subjective reality, so you can interpret them how you like.
I don't know anything for sure hence my username. LOL. The pattern does seem definite enough. Absurdly so last week, but obvious patterns otherwise.


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In my experience, my so called negative experiences, especially the seriously negative ones, have greatly added to my growing understanding.
Interesting enough this is the kind of "spirituality" I've turned to for the past 10 years or so of my life. Something like Wayne Dyer manifestation to Buddhist realization of impermanence and release of attachment\desire\aversion. I know some people think these two types of systems can be reconciled and Dyer used to (haven't read much lately) tries to mix manifesation with allowing to be type spirituality but one seems a way of "intention" and manifesting "desires" and one seems to be way of simply observing and letting go. In the latter system pain is simply a way of burning through and even identifying ego with its desires. The answer is not to manifest the ego's desires that it says it needs, but to drop them completely. Oh if it was that easy.
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Yeah, it definitely seems this way.
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In that way, eventually, it will come - maybe not exactly the way you were imagine it, but it will
You know I like this little role playing scenario of yours. I will try this. You mention "resistance" and "doubt". Surely I have expressed my doubts, but I think there may be "resistance" also. Part of that goes to what I was telling sonde about different spiritual outlook's call for action, so to speak, on negative things popping up in life. Do you use them to burn out ego or do you try to do what I'm asking about here? And that would be reversing the negative subjective reality and manifesting something positive so I don't have to deal with these negative emotions because the world is doing what I want. The thing is, today I'm in a much better mood. I feel less motivated to deal with my problem. It will reoccur again and I will go through the pattern again. The thing is I've sort of let go - not completely. Its negative burning emotion lost its intensity and thus some of the motivation goes too.

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I do appreciate all the thoughtful responses. Thanks!
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"Now this is how we do it. At the end of my day, I review the day; I don't judge it, I simply review it. I look
over the entire day, all the episodes, all the events, all the conversations, all the meetings, and then as I see it
clearly in my mind's eye, I rewrite it. I rewrite it and make it conform to the ideal day I wish I had
experienced. I take scene after scene and rewrite it, revise it, and having revised my day, then in my
imagination I relive that day, the revised day, and I do it over and over in my imagination until this seeming
imagined state begins to take on to me the tones of reality. It seems that it's real, that I actually did experience
it and I have found from experience that these revised days, if really lived, will change my tomorrows. When I
meet people tomorrow that today disappointed me, they will not tomorrow, for in me I have changed the
very nature of that being, and having changed him, he bears witness tomorrow of the change that took place
within me."

I tried this with events and people which bothered me and it works for me
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Sounds like chemicalisation in that things have to get worse before they get better.

You just gotta ride it out, saying to yourself 'this too shall soon pass.'

When everything reassembles it will be closer to your ideal picture of what you have chosen for your life.

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Sounds like chemicalisation in that things have to get worse before they get better.

You just gotta ride it out, saying to yourself 'this too shall soon pass.'

When everything reassembles it will be closer to your ideal picture of what you have chosen for your life.

Peace
If I remember correctly, Robert Anton Wilson discusses a similar idea in Prometheus Rising called Negentropy. Basically, any complex system has to fall apart before it can reassemble itself into a higher degree of order...

... though Nic said it better. Still, happy to contribute. I posted, yay!
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The answer is not to manifest the ego's desires that it says it needs, but to drop them completely. Oh if it was that easy.
The ego is desire, all it does is need and want - to keep itself going. Just watch it, no need (to drop anything). Needs are of the ego. Needs can still carry on, but you (undefined you) merely watch that carry on.
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