Bragging affects the Universe??

[dyakub]

Hi everyone,
I came across a serious concern regarding 'bragging' and the effects it might have against your success in any matter. Another relative of mine has this same problem where they might "brag" (not literally but its more like a subtle brag) about something they're about to get and when the time comes for them to get it, it winds up not coming. Say for instance you have plans to purchase a nice car and everything is looking pretty good in the process. Before you actually get the car (or have driven it) you tell some folks that you have this nice fast car that has up to 200 HP with great wheels, nice figure and the works. After telling a few people this, something unexpected deprives you of getting the car and or driving it due to you telling people about this car you don't have yet. This is kinda what I've been experiencing in another situation. And I guess the question is does bragging actually have a negative affect on future circumstances?

[SunnyDays]

Not bragging as such but just talking about any intention I hold is a big no no for me and has been suggested by many teachers

[TheLifeQuaker]

I agree with SunnyDays and I have noticed it in myself as well...again not so much bragging perse but if I tell someone what I am doing or planning to do. It doesn't always mean it 'won't come', but it can seem to slow it all down.

For example, a while back I was starting work on a novel I had been planning for a while and it was going very well, then I told a friend about it (who also happened to be a writer and was very supportive about it) and my desire would all of a sudden vanish. After a while of thinking and not talking again I began to get it back...but whenever I talked about it...things stopped.

It's basically said by most traditions (whether older, newer, eastern or western) to keep your trap shut. Part of the 'rationalization' is many people are big doubters and could throw you off. But like I said, my friend above was very supportive (and I happen to ignore most people anyway :P) so I think there is more to it than that.

http://www.investbox.com/ebook/Secrecy.pdf - Steve Bailey looks at some more modern texts etc exclaiming this. All the quotes seem to hinge on the idea of 'built up energy' being expended when you talk about it. And that is rather how it feels, I find.

[delias]

Originally Posted by TheLifeQuaker

It's basically said by most traditions (whether older, newer, eastern or western) to keep your trap shut. Part of the 'rationalization' is many people are big doubters and could throw you off. But like I said, my friend above was very supportive (and I happen to ignore most people anyway :P) so I think there is more to it than that.
All the quotes seem to hinge on the idea of 'built up energy' being expended when you talk about it. And that is rather how it feels, I find.

How does that factor in with the directions to 'think, speak, and act' as if you already have what you are wanting to manifest?

[On A Lark]

This is simply a limiting belief that you have. At some point you learned that bragging was "wrong", and that "pride cometh before a fall". So that belief is inside you working away, when you brag or do something you perceive as prideful you immediately censor yourself and hold your manifestation away from you because you don't feel you deserve it.

The exact opposite happens for many people: believe, feel and ACT as if you already have what you are manifesting and your will become a vibrational match for you, and your reality will have no choice but to bring you the manifested object.

You can either choose to get rid of the limiting belief that bragging will keep you from getting what you want, or you can keep it and don't talk about things you are trying to manifest. See which way works better for you.

[Thesingularityapproaches]

I would say that any thought that you express either inwardly or outwardly must effect you future. It depends on how you are thinking about it when your bragging. Are you thinking about creating pain for the person you are bragging to because they do not have the same thing? Are you thinking about it as a future event that has yet to occur? The truth is a future event will never come true because it will always be in the future.

When trying to manifest things you should always think in present tens. I am so great full for my new porch and it is so nice driving it.

[Lionman]

Originally Posted by TheLifeQuaker

http://www.investbox.com/ebook/Secrecy.pdf - Steve Bailey looks at some more modern texts etc exclaiming this. All the quotes seem to hinge on the idea of 'built up energy' being expended when you talk about it. And that is rather how it feels, I find.

Fascinating, thanks for that. I've always felt there was something to this but could never put my finger on it.

[James81]

Originally Posted by On A Lark

This is simply a limiting belief that you have. At some point you learned that bragging was "wrong", and that "pride cometh before a fall". So that belief is inside you working away, when you brag or do something you perceive as prideful you immediately censor yourself and hold your manifestation away from you because you don't feel you deserve it.

The exact opposite happens for many people: believe, feel and ACT as if you already have what you are manifesting and your will become a vibrational match for you, and your reality will have no choice but to bring you the manifested object.

You can either choose to get rid of the limiting belief that bragging will keep you from getting what you want, or you can keep it and don't talk about things you are trying to manifest. See which way works better for you.

I agree with this.

[dyakub]

Originally Posted by On A Lark

This is simply a limiting belief that you have. At some point you learned that bragging was "wrong", and that "pride cometh before a fall". So that belief is inside you working away, when you brag or do something you perceive as prideful you immediately censor yourself and hold your manifestation away from you because you don't feel you deserve it.

The exact opposite happens for many people: believe, feel and ACT as if you already have what you are manifesting and your will become a vibrational match for you, and your reality will have no choice but to bring you the manifested object.

You can either choose to get rid of the limiting belief that bragging will keep you from getting what you want, or you can keep it and don't talk about things you are trying to manifest. See which way works better for you.

This sounds very true...it can definitely be a limiting belief holding me against any intention. Unfortunately my relative has helped me to adopt the belief as she has but getting rid of it is definitely an option.

It depends on how you are thinking about it when your bragging. Are you thinking about creating pain for the person you are bragging to because they do not have the same thing? Are you thinking about it as a future event that has yet to occur? The truth is a future event will never come true because it will always be in the future.

Whenever I talk about an intention such as landing a job, I never talk about it in a way that discourages or oppresses anyone. I simply say what is needed and thats it. No exaggeration. I do think this is a limiting belief just do to the fact that I've only had one experience to believe this. My relative is actually the one that pushed it in my head She has had many experiences pertaining to this.

[SunnyDays]

Originally Posted by On A Lark

The exact opposite happens for many people: believe, feel and ACT as if you already have what you are manifesting and your will become a vibrational match for you, and your reality will have no choice but to bring you the manifested object.

I can and do so without talking about actually talking about my intentions/visualizations/vibrations and it works quite well for me

I do not agree that my not talking has anything to do with limiting believes

[Enlightenment]

OMG! I was just looking at that Secrecy link! It IS true though. I find that when I tell people about my goals, the goals seem to take on a life of their own. Upon revealing them, especially to people who may not support them and I'll get into this in just a moment, then I am in some weird way accountable to those people even though I may not want to be. For example, have you ever talked to someone about something good and then the next time you see them they ask 'How's your new beau?' or 'How's the book coming along?'? It's not 'yours' anymore.
Madonna wears the Kabbalah red string to ward off the 'Evil Eye' or the jealousy of others. I think she's smart to do that because I'm sure there's a heck of a lot of people jealous of her and wish her ill; just think of her ex-husband! The truth is that people are jealous of others. Heck, I'm jealous of people! Although I try to curb it, some people thrive on their jealousy of others; they plot and plan and say things like, 'She's goin down!' or 'Who does she think she is!'. And the scary part is that they sometimes ACT on this jealousy. So if you want your goal to come to life, don't tell ANYONE accept your mentors about it.

[nowgirl]

I actually do better with manifestation when I tell people about it (I don't know I think this is always bragging) in some way---i.e. show some confidence, often verbally---but I'm sure this is just because I believe it to be so. Generally speaking, things work precisely as we (truly, truly) think they will.

I don't think it matters if you brag or don't brag. Or talk or don't talk. For me, keeping something intentionally secret doesn't work because I don't think it will. . . unless I do something like a spell. If I do a spell, I've noticed I generally will have a desire to basically keep it secret (not out of fear, but just. . . I tend to do a spell and forget it, and it'll still work, maybe even better; other things require less forgetting) and just let it unfold in time. Maybe this comes from me being a do-er and feeling the need to "do" something: Whether it be express my desires and confidence that I'll achieve them in the world or cast it in a spell.

At any rate, whether something helps or hinders you will depend upon you. It's only a "limiting" belief if it's getting in your way.

[Showtime]

It really depends.

If you're bragging about something, there's a good chance you're defining yourself by that thing which could indicate a void or insecurity.

Both of which will slow down manifestation.