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i know its wrong to try and change someones mind on a romantic level but I am serously believing that as to misfortunate circumstances i hurt mu ex so much and I know now I have changes a lot and healed. I have decided that texting her all the time is wrong obviously she needs that space and time to heal, but how should I direct my thoughts and love for her? i am now getting on well with all my friends and hers that we have shared for a long time and feel like a foundation is growing for a second chance if she can see i have changed. I feel like I have communicated with her visualising her face and name and talking to her forgiving myself and her and sending her love and positive energy. I dont want to make her do anything she doesn't want to do but i am sure she still has feelings for me and she would be so happy if we could actually make it work. So as i said i decided communicating with her mentally is much healthier than doing it physically as she doesn't know what to say to me. i just want there to be a great positive energy between us when we next see eachother instead of the awkwardness we had last time. I did get a text from her one day when i was doing these visualisations so i believe they work and i believe we can work things out too. i know believing is half the battle so i am being open minded. Even if she is seeing someone else i know soon we can be together again, i just want to show her my best side and positivity so she will remember why she loved me so much and why the mistalkes of the past are really mistakes and not really me? Anyone had a similar experience? I had this before with another ex and had very profound images in my dreams which did become a reality so I know this works. Cheers x |
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I was in a somewhat similar situation about 15 years ago. My wife had filed for divorce and I tried lots of things to change her mind. In my case it did not work out, but, retrospectively it was for the best. I have seen these things work out very well, work for a while then fall apart again.....you get the picture. The important thing is for you to trust that things will work out for the best for both of you and then accept whatever that is. My 15 years single has been really good for me and I am about to get married to a wonderful, very compatible woman. Just try to avoid manipulation and control over specific people in your visualizations and you should do fine. |
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Yeah, I don't know if that's a great idea. I wrote about it here: Are there limits to the Law of Attraction? |
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I'm one of those terrible people who don't believe that influencing others is wrong For example: you feel like your ex need time and no texting from you, so if you try to contact her, she probably won't react to good. So you position yourself as unwanted and her as irritated by your contact. As long as you stay in that position it really is better for you not to contact her. But, if you work through yourself and position yourself as, for example, extremely wanted by her, it could work. In your case, you said you have changed. Instead of trying to visualize your ex realizes your changes, try to visualize yourself radiating that positive change, so it's visible to everyone, including your ex. If you try to manipulate another person, it probably won't work because you (and I, and most of us, I think That's my theory. It was proven to me many times in life, but I'm still learning how to apply it with conscious intention, so - no guaranties |
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Hey, forgive yourself. Whatever you did, you didn't know better at the time. And it's ok, because of that - now you do. I agree with you: nothing is unfixable and the things we do - we do just to experience the contrast of who we are and who we aren't. Now you know who you aren't, and that's great |
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You're alternating between "I hurt her so much" and "she would be so happy if she was with me". These two statements do not really fit together. If you really did hurt her (I don't know if you did), then the very best thing to do for her is to leave her alone. You can't really help the people you hurt except by leaving them alone. Right after a breakup, your mind plays a lot of tricks on you. You THINK you feel compassion for your ex, but that "compassion" is disguised need. You're going to feel every emotion in the book, pretty much every day, in sequence. Sometimes you'll be like "I just want to call her and tell her how happy she made me", and then one hour later you'll be mad about how she hurt you. I'm not really sure how much I believe in the LOA, but everything I've read about it implies that you need a CLEAR HEAD to make it work, and you can't be too attached to results. After you have gotten over your ex (which is what you actually should do, and there are some great posters here who can help you with that), you can look at the situation objectively and decide whether you really want to influence her in these ways. Maybe you'll want to, maybe not. If I were you, I'd focus my intention on getting over my ex. Even if it's the last thing you feel like doing. Get your personal power and independence back, and then you'll be in a position to make the right things happen for you in your life. I'm sorry you're going through this, but if you can work through these feelings instead of clinging to someone who's moved on, you'll develop real inner strength and fortitude. I don't think there's anybody who doesn't find those qualities attractive. |
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Can't think clearly; emotions are negative; mind is unstable .... Basically, this is a very bad starting point for conscious creation. | |
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So, isn't it better that we work on our emotional state and continue with conscious creation then let our negative mind to rule? I know for myself that hope and process of creation itself, rises my emotional state when I'm down. If I have hope that I can do something about my situation, I already feel better, and that's a god start: feeling better, better creation, feeling better even better creation... I think that puguglypress is right about feeling various emotional states after the brake up in only one day (it is so true, it make me laugh a lot... In some cases we just don't want to give up of someone and that would be more stress for us than to stay focus on better future with that person and have faith in that. And maybe those are the cases when two people get back together? So, I don't think that we should let go conscious creation, but agree that we should get rid of our doubts and fears. And sometimes, the process of creation and the hope that it can give us are more helpful in releasing, than anything else. However, that's my opinion, but I'm curious, cause maybe you have better idea that I could use when feeling down about something: what should person in bad emotional state do, to get better and not to create a lot of bad things, if he/she should stay away from conscious creation? Last edited by Nea; 08-23-2010 at 09:52 AM. | |
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If you are not feeling good, you should do general things that make you feel better. Such as sleep (if you are feeling tired); exercise vigorously (if you are feeling angry); go for a massage (if you are feeling stressed); listen to some relaxing music (if you are feeling tense); or listen to some energetic music (if you are feeliing down). Conscious creation from a bad emotional state tends to either (1) fail, or (2) succeed in an unhappy way, a way that matches your emotional vibe. For example, you manifest for X, while feeling anxious. When it manifests, it manifests in a way you didn't quite expect, and in a way that causes you more anxiety. In a really bad emotional state, we also get cut off from our inner wisdom and we can't think clearly. We may then have a desire for things which aren't really great for us and which we wouldn't want, if we were thinking more clearly. Actually this doesn't apply just in the context of heavy-duty IM, but also in the context of everyday decision-making. If you are feeling very upset, stressed, angry, panicky or frustrated, this clearly isn't a good frame of mind to be making any major decisions. You should just defer making the decision, until you feel better. Last edited by Acting Like Godot; 08-23-2010 at 02:40 PM. |
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Here is my experience. I was in exactly the same place as you. I visualized and affirmed daily, cause I just had to have him back. I said thing like: He thinks about me all the time. He can’t get me out of his mind. He still wants to be with me. He is still strongly attracted to me. etc etc. (Basically the same things I was thinking about him.) So yeah – he did come back – briefly. And when he left me for the second time, he told me that it wasn’t easy for him because he was still really attracted to me, and thought about me all the time, but it just wasn’t going to work. And it hurt 10 times as much as the first time. So be very careful with this. It does work, it always works. But if you are putting out the vibration of desperation, of wanting someone so bad but you can’t have them, that is what you will draw to you. That’s what I got. Two people who can’t get each other out of their heads, but can’t be together either. Best listen to ALG and take care of yourself first, get yourself where you want to be, and then create something that fits with that. You are not in the place right now to draw the relationship that you really want. Good luck. I know exactly how you feel. |
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When my kids were at a certain age, there was a lot of sibling jealousy/rivalry all the time and they were constantly fighting. I'm simplifying the story, but basically I formed the intention that the fighting should completely stop. Of course I wasn't in a good emotional state then and was in fact very frazzled by their constant fighting and quarrelling. Then one of the kids got salmonella and was hospitalised. So the fighting completely stopped. Then they missed each other a lot and when the sick one was discharged and came home, they treated each other so much better, because they actually realised how nice it was, to have a big brother/little sister. So the intention manifested, but in a frazzle-&-anxiety-filled way, because the salmonella was very, very bad and it's no joke on the parents, when a little kid ends up in hospital. |
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Oh at that time my wife (who also practises the LOA) was feeling very stressed about her job. And she was manifesting about being able to get away from her work as well. As I said, conscious creation from a bad emotional state can lead to trouble. My wife did get away from work. As mentioned, my daughter fell ill. As she was still quite young at that age, she couldn't be left alone in the hospital. So my wife had to skip work for a week, to live in the hospital with my daughter. Again, the intention successfully manifested, but not in an enjoyable way. Do you need more examples, or is the point getting clear ......? |
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ALG, I agree with you in most of the things, I definitely don't think that a big emotional stress is good for creation, but in my case, I've noticed it is interdependent. Process of conscious creation itself and focus on positive, instead of negative rises my emotional state. And it can be a tool like music and massage I think that problem for a lot of people (including me, of course) is that they can not imagine positive when in negative state. That's because their (our) subconscious still makes a big difference between what we call reality and what we call imagination. "Reality" distracts us from fully enjoying in imagination. The other problem is impatience in negative emotional state and thinking of "how" instead of "what". For example, we visualize something we desperately want and if the other day "reality" show us a different picture we get distracted with that picture more easily if we are to attached to something. And than comes negative emotions, doubts, thinking that "now it will be harder to get it" etc. If we weren't that attached to our goal (and wanting someone back is usually a huge attachment...) we would say: "O, ok, that doesn't mean anything, I can still get what I want, and even if I don't I'm ok with that" - so it's much easier to stay positive and continue with positive vibe So what I'm suggesting here is: if we are in bad emotional state we can use visualization and imagination to get out of that state, we can simply enjoy the imagination of what we would like to be. We don't have to be desperate to get it ASAP, we can just love to think about it, with little or no expectations, and it will have a double effect: we will rise our emotional state and, with some time probably, we could create what we want So, I don't disagree with you that low emotional state isn't the best way for manifestation. But, I just don't like the rule "if you are down, stay away from it". And I'm saying that because IM techniques and visualization saved me when I was really down, and when no massage or music could help... |
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Now I see your other two posts, I see what you mean. I am familiar with that kind IM effects. Once I was very stressed about going to work that specific day, because some pretty demanding tasks were waiting for me. And on the way to work, I had a car accident, so I never got there that day (to tell you the truth, I was ok with the accident, it wasn't to serious and I still manage to avoid my work that day and even the next couple of days I don't know, only know that IM for me isn't just manifestation tool, but also the rising emotions tool, which then lead to better manifestations... but thanks for your examples Last edited by Nea; 08-23-2010 at 03:49 PM. |
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But what your describing is very different to what ALG was suggesting. I know from experience, working with magick in states of desperation and lack of common sense can produce just dead failures, or if your a somewhat skilled magician like i was/am then you can kinda skip the idea of not getting a result. And if you can skip that idea, and still create from a place of desperation, jealousy, dark lust, you'll create exactly that. What you wanted, but with the added desperation, jealousy and dark lust. | |
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I understand what you are saying guys, I really do, and agree with you, I experienced that too, and that's the part when I say that nothing ever happened to me what I didn't allow on some level of my being. It's just - when I imagine something very positive for me, my emotional state changes, it's not negative anymore (at least for the period when I live in my imagination and not reality | |
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but experience is a powerful teacher. | |
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JEBUS CHRIST!!! So much to read and so much interesting stuff!! Will have to look through it soon! At work at the mo.. something pretty strange happenend recently too when I was in a deep state of tyranquility pondering Sophie |
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It sounds like you've got a broken heart. You're not the first or the last and it happens to everyone at least once; or so I've noticed. You should just try and move on and wish her the best. You have to get yourself straightened out internally as you move through this process; and it is a process. She has a free will and all of the visualization on earth won't change it. If she wants to be with you, she will be, but if she's not then you have no reason to believe that she wants to be. I assume that her decision to move on wasn't an easy one and she may be hurting too. I would break the ties. That may do more to get her back one day than anything. If she still has feelings and eventually realizes that you're doing just fine without her you'll stand a much better chance at another shot, but, at that point you may not even want it anymore. I went through a similar experience years ago. I was in love with a particular woman like I;ve never loved anyone. I thought my life was over, etc. As it turned out, I later married someone else and now I'm a proud father of two incredible sons. As for her, she never married or had any kids. I saw her about three years ago and felt nothing at all. Had I stayed with her I probably wouldn't have my kids and that would have been the real tragedy of my life; not ending a relationship with one woman. I know in my heart that the pain I went through then happened for a reason; and a very good reason, but it could only be seen in hindsight. The fact that she never married anyone made me realize that she wouldn't have married me either and wouldn't have had kids with me, so as much as I loved her, I know that she was the one unwilling to completely commit; not me. I also know that that's not the type of woman I would even want long term. If she can't commit to anybody and wouldn't be willing to be a Mom (which is her prerogative of course and not my call), then she's not my kind of girl and I'm extremely thankful that we ended our relationship when we did, although at the time, no one could have made me believe that because I was BLINDED by love. I wouldn't trade either of my kids for a hundred of her. You'll live and you'll be all right with or without her. There are billions of other women out there and you'll find one who doesn't put you through all of this misery you're going through. Trust me on that. Maybe it just wasn't meant to be. Your girlfriend is probably really great but if she were meant for you then she would be with you or at the very least; making some type of effort to let you know that the possibility of the two of you being together is a real one. As for your visualizations, you can keep doing them if you choose but your time will be far better spent getting yourself over her and visualizing that. What you're feeling isn't much different than withdrawing from a powerful drug addiction. It feels incredibly terrible but it gets better and you're not going to feel this way the rest of your life. Those bad feelings will eventually go away and you'll remember more of the good times that you had with her. People have been going through what you're going through since people have existed. Most relationships don't work out anyway. |
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I have read throgh all your posts and find them all very interesting! I kinda know that when one is in a bad emotional state we shouldn't try and do any visualizing! It is like if you meet up with someone and you are really upset or in a bad mood they will soon be in a bad mood unless their energy is so strong that it over rides your own! The other day I got into a really positive state of mind and body, I was on my way to a festival and reading Synchrodestiny By Deepak Chopra! I was seriously looking at what i wanted and feeling very positive! I looked up and there was a giant S made out of the clouds! I am not joking I was looking at it for ages and it was a very un-natural shape an exact S (her names Sophie).. This plus the hearts that I saw and other synchronus things has confused me a little. Either I am just creating these things with the power of my mind, or its a combination and "GOD" (or the infinite quantum intelligence) agrees with my opinion that I must redeem the relationship and be happy with her.. ?? Or its just a stupid head **** and means nothing lol!! I am not getting any one telling me it will never happen including her although she has avoided meeting up with me for months. The thing is will I block destiny providing me with a better match or something I need by focusing my attention on this? How much power do we really have over things? Interesting thread thank y ou all for your thoughts and discussion very interesting.. |
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I don't think you can block your destiny. It's gonna' play our regardless, so why not open yourself up to the possibility of someone but no one in particular?? You certainly can't lose that way. Besides, if she's been avoiding contact for months, why wait for her in particular; especially when you're getting signals that even if it were to happen, it's not happening now and probably won't happen soon?? I assume you love her or whatever but you can love somebody else too. I also wouldn't ignore any opportunities to meet someone else. You just may be surprised if you don't and you'll be disappointed and still single if you do. Either way; good luck and don't worry too much about your destiny. That's gonna' take a long time to pan out. | |
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Its a balance of wanting and listening :-) Attention and Intention :-) | |
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