I channel

[themaster]

I think it's time to state the obvious.. many times when I answer questions on here or sometimes post (occasionally) I write thing that *surprise* the hell out of me.. that are a delight to write and read back sometimes (emotional self active here )

And so I have been working with the theory I'm channeling.. and I think I'm ready to say that's a fact..

Many of us channel all the times.. based on what the "new age" teachers say.. and as such I will just say.. I am channeling or believe I am.. however the channeling I'm doing is not "voiced" or expressed much indifferently then myself.. a lot of myself is in what I write..

So to say clearly.. "I don't hear voices in my head" I just have a pure stream of consciousness when I start to "answer questions" or once in a while post..

This is channeling by the "new age" definition.. recently, I have been attracted to "Steve Rothers" work via my teacher.. and one "neat" thing about him is that his work and the entity's he works with.. "refuse to be indentified" the only name they have is "the group"

I think this video which I watched last night.. talks about all of us channeling (yes it does.. maybe at the end) and also about Steve Rothers entity's and how they work through him..

YouTube - Living in the 5th Dimension.

[cortocabezas1111]

I..............................robot. iRobot. You ever see that movie? Good stuff. Features Will Smith's phrase that he says in each and every movie he's in "Awww hell no!"

But that's cool you channel man. Sorry about the nonsense about irobot. The name of your thread reminded me of that movie.

[themaster]

Yep, I've seen it.. was dissapointed when I first saw it.. Then I saw "I am Legend" and was even more dissapointed..

Naw.. I like "I am Legend" more.. (ending is weak) the intellectual message in "Irobot" that was supposed to blow you away didn't work on me.. nor did the murder/mystery plot really impress me..

What I'm saying is.. Irobot was supposed to have genuis quasi-intellectual "donnie darko"/ "the matrix" kind of effect.. but I didn't see it.. soo.. it's not a bad movie.. just not great.. either (to my configuration )

Other names that are similuar to "ichannel"

ipod
ipad
ipear (this is from a game.. making fun of the ipod )
irobot

[cortocabezas1111]

yeah i would agree with what you said about Irobot. I was more just kinda entertained by it not really blown away. I do like Bridgett Moynahan (i had to have butchered that name) though.

I've never seen I Am Legend, but hope to see it to see if Will Smith drops his "Aww Hell Noo". I swear ,every movie he's in he says that ish. He probably even says it in Hitch, I've never seen that either but I bet it's there.

iPad
iPod
iNano
iMac

I can't think of too many others..... hmmmm

iAM!

sorry to hi-jack your thread away from your channeling discussion and turn it into nonsense. What's it like channeling? Do you hear a clear voice outside of yours or is it more like intuition, or whatever?

[wolfgang]

he's far from being a channel, imo

[themaster]

Originally Posted by wolfgang

he's far from being a channel, imo

Shot down in my prime.. lol

Ahh.. wolfgang we should talk about this.. but I'm in no mood..

Now, I can't get a book deal..! Damn, I've been found out..

Originally Posted by cortocabezas1111

sorry to hi-jack your thread away from your channeling discussion and turn it into nonsense. What's it like channeling? Do you hear a clear voice outside of yours or is it more like intuition, or whatever?

It's just.. I know it to be channeling based on the "ringing" in my ears.. and the fact that I just suprise myself with what I'll say.. I wouldn't say it's always working 100% but close too it..

I learn things now as I'm writing.. as I learned something *today*..

I've been working with simple words of the "scientific method" of "critical thinking" and "skepticism" and for the first time I got to the root of what those words are about.. "EGO"

You have to understand we all channel.. go paint a painting.. or rock out with a guitar.. or "act" a part.. that's all channeling.. we just don't label it that.. (but if you offer a label.. it is the act of letting go and pulling down more of "who you are")

[Okay]

Originally Posted by themaster

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You have to understand we all channel.. go paint a painting.. or rock out with a guitar.. or "act" a part.. that's all channeling.. we just don't label it that.. (but if you offer a label.. it is the act of letting go and pulling down more of "who you are")

themaster, you seem like a nice guy, and I know you're sincere about your studies, but I have to say, you're rather sloppy in your thinking. "We all channel." So, if I paint or write or sing I'm channeling? What--my higher self? How is that channeling? That's simply "pulling down more of who you are", as you say. Who YOU are. Your own greater or higher self. You see, your sloppy un-definition obliterates what most of think channeling is. Most of us think channeling is pulling down someone else's energy or thoughts; or something else if it's hard to explain. Even Jane Roberts who claimed to be channeling Seth, her "future incarnation," never viewed it like she was simply channeling "herself."

Why does your idol Bashar's channeler claim to be speaking the words of some ET? Why not just claim it's himself? What you're talking about is visionary writing--a la Yeats or Blake. And I concur with Wolfgang--you're not there yet. Your stuff is too diffuse and random. Most of the time it seems you're speaking your teacher's thoughts or quoting some Bashar thing. Your enthusiasm shines through but a little focus would help a lot.

And--whomever you're "channeling"---please request that they ease up on the emoticons (don't worry I know you'll add more now); they don't tend to make one want to read your posts.

[wstein]

Get whomever it is a separate userID. I would like to know that stuff posted under your name is actually from you.

[rickrock]

Hm, yeah sadly I'd have to agree that it's not channeling. Hm, now I'm not too sure what I've been doing is called :/ I try to do what I call 'channelling' and I can feel a connection with someone or something, and I dont just get emotions, I am also empathic, but I get visuals, sounds, voices, other noises, smells, and physical pain when it relates to what is happening.

Since I now doubt myself in knowledge in the proper titles of abilities, not a big deal, anyone know what it is? Its a very strong connection and it can effect all senses...

Bestowing knowledge in a different fashion than a beatdown would be greatly appreciated

I like to see emoticons as a seasoning for your post rather than the entire meal.

[elucidate]

Big deal!

Loads of people channel...it's nothing new, and you're nothing special for being able to...IF infact you do!

[themaster]

Originally Posted by Okay

themaster, you seem like a nice guy, and I know you're sincere about your studies, but I have to say, you're rather sloppy in your thinking. "We all channel." So, if I paint or write or sing I'm channeling? What--my higher self? How is that channeling? That's simply "pulling down more of who you are", as you say. Who YOU are. Your own greater or higher self. You see, your sloppy un-definition obliterates what most of think channeling is. Most of us think channeling is pulling down someone else's energy or thoughts; or something else if it's hard to explain. Even Jane Roberts who claimed to be channeling Seth, her "future incarnation," never viewed it like she was simply channeling "herself."

Sloppy definition..?? to be honest this is the definition provided by almost all "new age" teachers.. to be honest it's us that define the labels for words and there meanings.. broaden your horizons..

If everyone is "one" that which you channel is also you.. so therefore the idea of Jane Roberts channeling "herself" is correct..

It's interesting to note that many channels admit that some of their information may be off.. because they go through the "Filter" of the person/EGO doing it..

(filter being clearly.. beliefs/definitions)

Originally Posted by Okay

Why does your idol Bashar's channeler claim to be speaking the words of some ET? Why not just claim it's himself?

He has actually.. but you would note like a actor "becoming" a character.. Bashar is likely a different character then "Darryl" there's really no "wrong" way to do it? Okay...

Why are you arguing there is?

Originally Posted by Okay

What you're talking about is visionary writing--a la Yeats or Blake. And I concur with Wolfgang--you're not there yet. Your stuff is too diffuse and random. Most of the time it seems you're speaking your teacher's thoughts or quoting some Bashar thing. Your enthusiasm shines through but a little focus would help a lot.

Yes, but this is the interesting thing.. channels are not supposed to be "separate" entities in the future.. it can all be one..

I have decided to call it channeling since it's far too often the things I write surprise and delight me.. and really where does that come from?

There's more information then that though.. sometimes I'll be trying to explain a concept and forget certain words or even how to phrase it I'm writing so fast.. I actually have to correct all my grammar a lot because I write so fast I skip words like "it" "the" etc. etc. (I'm sure those who read my posts notice even after much editing.. parts are a little incoherent )

You see.. I did ask to channel and I think the universe said request granted.. however, being able to indentify how my thoughts are organized and my writing style permutated is a impossible task..

Part of what may happen is many years ago.. I would read lots and lots of books.. and as I read books of a certain author.. I would find my mind repeating "channeling" the others thoughts and writing style.. and I could in essence write a book in the authors style or in fact mock them through their style..

In this way you could theorize that having studied teachers Abraham, Bashar and Jim Self (mainly) with dabbling with others.. I may be able to pull in information/mindset of them.. in fact I have written some statements where I said that's a "bashar" statement right there.. lately I've been noticing abraham statements more.. and there's another thing.. sometimes I write "puns" without realizing I wrote them till after.. sometimes the jokes are "double" puns meaning they have two type of jokes in meaning..

If all of us channel.. this is really just a argument about definition.. I prefer my definition and a more open one.. you can be all segregative and defensive and "no" this is wrong.. but in your resistance is the old common adage.. "there's something you should look at"

Originally Posted by Okay

And--whomever you're "channeling"---please request that they ease up on the emoticons (don't worry I know you'll add more now); they don't tend to make one want to read your posts.

I'm afraid I write the way I want to right..

Shh..!! went crazy there for a minute..

[themaster]

Originally Posted by wstein

Get whomever it is a separate userID. I would like to know that stuff posted under your name is actually from you.

I don't need a separate name.. I'm okay with the way it is..

Having recently been introduced to teachers that "channel" and don't use names.. also gives me a further "permission slip" to integrate..

Originally Posted by rickrock

Hm, yeah sadly I'd have to agree that it's not channeling. Hm, now I'm not too sure what I've been doing is called :/ I try to do what I call 'channelling' and I can feel a connection with someone or something, and I dont just get emotions, I am also empathic, but I get visuals, sounds, voices, other noises, smells, and physical pain when it relates to what is happening.

Since I now doubt myself in knowledge in the proper titles of abilities, not a big deal, anyone know what it is? Its a very strong connection and it can effect all senses...

Bestowing knowledge in a different fashion than a beatdown would be greatly appreciated

I like to see emoticons as a seasoning for your post rather than the entire meal.

I really have no clue sorry.. you do have to figure out your own process's.. unless you can get a psychic to do it..

Originally Posted by elucidate

Big deal!

Loads of people channel...it's nothing new, and you're nothing special for being able to...IF infact you do!

Your correct it's nothing special

You notice elucidate/blossom..?? you still have negative/resistant reactions to my post.. hmm.. that's 2 in 2 days

Interesting how no one wishes to honor my truth isn't it? After all I'm not saying 100% I channel but more than likely.. yes I do.. we didn't start shooting down, nic when she said it did we?

Difference between me and nic.. a lot more of you have resistant, negative, liar feelings towards me as evidence in this post..

Ohh for the record not only do I channel but there has been at least one time where I psychically guessed things about the other poster.. that was interesting.. hey, jersey?

It could be clear to say.. that I channel my unconscious.. because I find a lot of things out about myself and make them conscious over time

[cortocabezas1111]

lots of criticism here directed at themaster....interesting.

should there be such a thing as "subjective reality", what exactly could be causing this all to manifest for themaster? maybe there's some self judgment, or themaster is harshly criticising himself, or maybe he's question his own methods or feeling insecure about them. maybe not. it's not a bad thing at all. there are even some criticisms towards the way he expresses himself with emoticons and such. so if there is subjective reality, what, exactly, is going through "themasters" head to create this thread, not so much his channeling discussion, but more or less the response he recieved from the people in the thread?

[cylon]

Well if it's subjective reality, we'd have to go back further a level and say what is it about channeling that caused YOU to make themaster write a thread about channeling, since it's really your issues about channeling coming up.

Then if we go back another level I'd have to ask what is it that made me make themaster write a thread about channeling which caused you to ask the question "what does it all mean"?

I'll take an SR shot at the question though, I used to think channeling was B.S. When I got into the Abraham stuff I still thought it was B.S. but I loved the material so much that I learned to not be bothered by it. Whether it is channeled or not, doesn't really have much effect on the content or if it's good advice for your life at all. At the worst, channeling could just be clever marketing for an often-times very valuable, effective product.

Of course, NOW with subjective reality on my mind, I have to even rethink that. Because if nothing is real, and everything is an illusion, that means everything is simultaneously possible and not possible, depending on if you want it to be or not.

Like in a dream, if you are flying. You are not actually flying because you are asleep in bed. But for the purposes of the dream world, you are genuinely flying.

If this is all a dream world, and there is no separation, then no one is ACTUALLY channeling anyone, because there is no one "else" to channel. But at the same time, for the purposes of the dream world we are in, you actually ARE channeling someone. Even if you aren't (really, at a deep level you of course are just channeling yourself, the BIG you, not the little you.).

So to me the whole question of what is real, and what isn't, has a new context now. Hope that makes sense.

[themaster]

Originally Posted by cortocabezas1111

lots of criticism here directed at themaster....interesting.

should there be such a thing as "subjective reality", what exactly could be causing this all to manifest for themaster? maybe there's some self judgment, or themaster is harshly criticising himself, or maybe he's question his own methods or feeling insecure about them. maybe not. it's not a bad thing at all. there are even some criticisms towards the way he expresses himself with emoticons and such. so if there is subjective reality, what, exactly, is going through "themasters" head to create this thread, not so much his channeling discussion, but more or less the response he recieved from the people in the thread?

Yes, a interesting point.. I was wondering that too.. what am I creating?

I say I want a "check and balance" system.. so I get that right..?

I say that the world has very limited viewpoints.. and I get that right?

You have to wonder how you shift that.. how do I stop seeing the word as "limiting"?

I mean all my life and experiences from movies and tv and interactions with people have been "limiting" how does one stop that cycle of projection?

Part of the problem may just be check's n' balances..

Perhaps the bottom-line truth is.. I have to stop seeing myself as the "odd" man out.. and see myself surrounded by people that "think"/be like myself..

I don't really want to spend a lot of time "thinking" about how to make it better though.. I'm a feeler.. and I try to feel my way through..

But if you have some suggestions "corto" by all means..

[cortocabezas1111]

the only thing i can ever suggest is just being honest with yourself. the more honest one is with oneself, then the easier it is to see how we view ourselves, and how that, in turn, reflects throughout reality.

[Dave Plaza]

I hang around here from time to time, never had much verbiage with "the master" but i do enjoy reading his posts and always check them out. He has some (to me) crazy theories going on, and I explore them, and some stuff has opened my mind to new ideas, and other stuff, well, I just plain disagree...

But thats the beauty of this forum, its a melting pot of everything. I just take what resonates with me, as we know, thats the guide.

So I don't really care about the channelling thing, maybe you're making that statement because of previous posts where you got dragged into something that you now feel reflects poorly on you... well thats the feeling I get from this thread.

Anyways keep posting (channelling ) you kind of helped me, maybe a little indirectly, but some of your posts made me think and question, and that's enough matey.

Cheers

[themaster]

Originally Posted by Dave Plaza

I hang around here from time to time, never had much verbiage with "the master" but i do enjoy reading his posts and always check them out. He has some (to me) crazy theories going on, and I explore them, and some stuff has opened my mind to new ideas, and other stuff, well, I just plain disagree...

But thats the beauty of this forum, its a melting pot of everything. I just take what resonates with me, as we know, thats the guide.

Indeed, this is how you do it

Originally Posted by Dave Plaza

So I don't really care about the channelling thing, maybe you're making that statement because of previous posts where you got dragged into something that you now feel reflects poorly on you... well thats the feeling I get from this thread.

Naw, I don't think that's what's happening.. but I would have liked to continue the conversation in that thread..

But at the same time it was pointless.. and it's like throw your hands in the AIR

(I'm thinking of the John thread.. I assume you are too )

Originally Posted by Dave Plaza

Anyways keep posting (channelling ) you kind of helped me, maybe a little indirectly, but some of your posts made me think and question, and that's enough matey.

Indeed, I'm glad it helped

[Dave Plaza]

Originally Posted by themaster

Indeed, this is how you do it

Naw, I don't think that's what's happening.. but I would have liked to continue the conversation in that thread..

But at the same time it was pointless.. and it's like throw your hands in the AIR

(I'm thinking of the John thread.. I assume you are too )
Indeed, I'm glad it helped

Well yes, it was that thread, and when I read that thread the tension was obvious... i was wondering why you got dragged in so deep to that, considering i believe you are quite in touch with your spirituality... But John gives a good argument too...

It's funny though that you refer to that thread without my direct mention of it... So, it is on your mind

We can argue subjective reality, I'm channelling, you're channelling, these debates are endless... the truth to that resonates with me throughout this board is honesty. That is, it's always easy to tell whether someone is speaking from ego or love... the "John thread" was ego to me... but thats not to say it wasn't fun

[themaster]

Originally Posted by Dave Plaza

Well yes, it was that thread, and when I read that thread the tension was obvious... i was wondering why you got dragged in so deep to that, considering i believe you are quite in touch with your spirituality... But John gives a good argument too...

Well, I have to be honest.. no I don't consider myself "dragged" deep.. I consider that some of the answers I had to write were not "fun" (and I don't like that but that was pretty rare for the conversation.. I pepped up easily many times )

I also don't like when I have so many good points that go un-noticed.. (but this is a common element that comes up in these conversations)

The problems in that thread were.. that offering people a "reflection" of themselves doesn't always work out

In that they don't listen..

And most times when I'm talking with people that are negative (and john was most definitely negative) that's my opinion.. I don't tell them so blatantly that I'm acting as mirror.. (I mentioned it early on cause of the banning etc.)

I find it ironic too in that thread that John was claiming to be the victim of insults.. and yet he dished out so many and no one claimed to be his victim (too many smart people on this forum )

I'm afraid that under a fundamental guise I just don't agree with you.. I didn't do any wrong in that thread.. because there is no "wrong"

There is no "wrong" thing to say.. there is no "wrong" thing to do.. now I know many of you fundamentally don't agree with me.. but that is what I believe.. that is what I choose

Originally Posted by Dave Plaza

It's funny though that you refer to that thread without my direct mention of it... So, it is on your mind

Actually, it wasn't.. not in this thread.. but it was on my "mind" in nic's thread.. which is why you can start hearing me talking about "lackey" and "science" in that thread.. among other things..

I also deliberately decided to not debate "John" in any new threads that sprung up right after that one.. (I wait for a different time)

See I consider it a victory just to get him "unbanned" that's progress if you ask me.. Thanks moon!

I have a pattern of talking about things we label "negative" on this forum not just positive ones.. I have dealt many times in many threads where I'm am thoroughly condemned by parties/gangs

Really, I have tons of insults thrown at me all the time.. that go under the table.. but I'm not going to complain or ♥♥♥♥♥ about it.. cause I don't care.. See I would never complain or ♥♥♥♥♥ about any that are thrown my way (but in a way I do) I really just point them out as a act of reflection.. I don't try to be judgmental I just try to say.. why are you doing this? And why do you feel this way?

And if it's not understood why it takes tons of paragraphs and text just to ask these questions.. well, then I just claim I'm miss-understood

[themaster]

Originally Posted by Dave Plaza

We can argue subjective reality, I'm channelling, you're channelling, these debates are endless... the truth to that resonates with me throughout this board is honesty. That is, it's always easy to tell whether someone is speaking from ego or love... the "John thread" was ego to me... but thats not to say it wasn't fun

The EGO is not ever separate from my words (that I'm aware off) though it may be.. I don't consider the John thread entirely EGO.. I mean I could have decided to not answer.. is that being the bigger man? (lol.. but playing the bigger man is all EGO )

I have checked my words in the John thread only a day or two ago.. I'm quite proud of many of my statements in there including calling him a "lackey" (I've been wanting to talk about this idea for a while and apparently it came out in the conversation with John.. to be clear I don't just consider John a lackey to science.. but a lot of people.. specifically I could name at least one or two other forum members who fit the idea of "preaching science" but never doing the work )

(you can also see I went out of my way to find words that were more "neutral" based and not "negative based" which is why I chose the word "lackey")

Obviously I noticed moon considered it taking it too far when I refused to edit my one "scientologist" reference cause john said it was negative..

But you have to ask yourself.. why would I come up with that "name" and why would john hate it so?

See to me I see that as ppsychic ability.. that's why I noted it so..

I love that John admitted he was annoyed and could not even understand/comprehend half the things I wrote.. see that was true honesty (I never hear from many of the people I talk too) and also Melchior admitted that in this thread too..

And I love hearing that.. cause then I want people to check in with their "Emotional Guidance System" and ask why they feel that way.. which is why I mentioned that idea like at least 3 times in that thread if not more..

A lot of my text is all about weaving/wrapping around to the idea.. of checking in with their truths.. and evaluating their truths for themselves in a different context and even with "different" ideas about how we all work..

See this is why I agree 100% with what you said.. because your using "resonate" your using your emotional guidance to feel what is true and what is not..

One of the new theories I'm starting to work on as (posted in nic's thread) is that people are "unconscious" of their NEGATIVITY.. meaning.. it's so natural to be "limited" so natural to believe "the world is flat"

That they automatically say things and don't even feel the "emotional" context I can read in their own messages..

This theory goes to explain how people can say to me.. "I did not feel negative.. when I wrote that" because I think it is so possible to be deluded in "unhappiness" that you have a trigger a annoyance/a outburst of negativity and yet not even recognize that you were negative nor feel the emotions..

I'm not a 100% sure how all the bodies flow together.. but I have been given the indications in my research/reading that the EGO (mental self) rules the roost..

I once heard one of the funniest arguments I've ever heard on here from a super intellectual (he shall remain nameless ) anyway he said and I quote

"You can't trust your emotions" "you can't trust them cause there illogical.. there to empassioned"

That's what he said.. and that was funny.. because you can see how the EGO/spock like nature rules out everything in its way..

If you would like to discuss what you didn't like or you think is EGO from that thread then by all means quote it and we'll examine it.. (hopefully we don't drag John in.. as that could make things go a little crazy )

As I said in that thread (at least once) I am a open book.. no subject is off limits for me (for the forum rules maybe.. but really I do believe no subject is off limits)

I want to be clear and also say.. you have to understand it is my preference to remain a "EGO" even as I continue to spiral (even right now) through process's of change.. It was always my preference to be a EGO inside the holodeck.. to smite people if I felt like it.. (I'm not sure in the path of spiritual enlightenment, oneness and the 5th dimension.. you're supposed to feel that way when you get there )

[themaster]

Since you got me talking about this thread again.. I want to remind you what is going on in all our threads.. that are about our limitations.. (I gave a write-up of this in johns thread.. maybe this one will be better )

I see it as simply people who have "problems" but won't look at them.. every day on our forum some one starts a thread like "how to understand child molesters?" or "is it wrong to pirate?" "my girlfriend cheated.. is she evil?"

Everyday these threads are created.. they're everywhere.. there all about "limitation" if you ask me..

Because *what* happens is someone comes on looking for a real "answer" or just looking to hear themselves vindicated to what they already BELEIVE

And so every time I see a "statement of limitation" and there are many.. I sometimes point them out to the people making them.. because they'll say the following

"child molesters are evil, I hate them"
"it's definitely wrong to pirate, you should go to jail!"
"your girlfriend cheated.. what a ♥♥♥♥♥! dump her and burn her records"

And to me those comments are these peoples OWN problems.. that's how I see it..

And so sometimes I pick up a text mirror (since they used text, yes?) and I twist the ideas around for them to look at it in a different way..

And this very thing was very evident in the "rockchick" thread did you see that..??

What I remember in the "rockchick" thread is how Angela made a observation how each person posting to help rockchick.. would find problems in themselves to look at.. just by posting..

And I noted how angela "noticed" that the rockchick thread was excellent "mirror" thread.. (least that's how I remember it)

I actually got in the rockchick thread.. and was a little unhappy and was defending rockchick.. because she was getting hit with so many statements of limitation sometimes.. (I guess ALG was just reflecting) as was Angela? (and I have realized that I over-reacted and was not living to my values.. in trying to defend her.. but it did seem like a "gang up" of hate at the time.. and I wanted to play HERO )

But the point is that's how I see threads like "how to understand child molesters?" "is it wrong to pirate" "my girlfriend cheated is she evil?"

Go and start one of these threads.. guaranteed within 1 to 10 posts you will have all sorts of "judgments" about what's wrong in there..

And that's because we're a "judgment" people and were leaving the "judgment" game and we all have our hand in it.. (consciously or unconsciously) going around and calling this one "bad" and this one "wrong" and this one "evil"

And so if you want to know what I was trying to help John with.. was his judgments and his unhappiness.. because I believe all his insults and annoyances in that thread were all about him "being unhappy" and having problems he wasn't looking at.. hence he had to project them into that thread..

The idea is if you don't have any problems.. you have no need to PROJECT them..

Sorry, if this last write-up is long, complicated or I'm just unimpassioned to write it.. been up for way to long now and I have to go fix a computer

(and I know.. I know.. giving you this last statement gives you fuel for your fire.. if you want to..? "fire" anyway.. )

[Melchior]

Originally Posted by themaster

The idea is if you don't have any problems.. you have no need to PROJECT them..

Aren't these your projections though?
Or should I ask myself why I'm projecting this person, themaster, Melchior, who seems to be projecting these things?

Originally Posted by themaster

Everyday these threads are created.. they're everywhere.. there all about "limitation" if you ask me..

Originally Posted by themaster

But the point is that's how I see threads like "how to understand child molesters?" "is it wrong to pirate" "my girlfriend cheated is she evil?"

Go and start one of these threads.. guaranteed within 1 to 10 posts you will have all sorts of "judgments" about what's wrong in there..

Originally Posted by themaster

And so if you want to know what I was trying to help John with.. was his judgments and his unhappiness.. because I believe all his insults and annoyances in that thread were all about him "being unhappy" and having problems he wasn't looking at.. hence he had to project them into that thread..

Especially with this last one, why is there so much unhappiness that I see around me? What problems am I not looking at?

[themaster]

Originally Posted by Melchior

Aren't these your projections though?

Nope, observations..

What you've never seen unhappy people..??

Look around!

People communicate how they're feeling by "body language" but for the record body language is actually more like psychic information..

Go sit in a restaurant.. and look for people that are smiling.. some will be.. others won't be.. this limitation game creates a serious disorder called "I Can't Smile" (ICS) for short..

ICS effects almost 80% of the world's population.. (and is spreading! ) here at the ICS "New Age Treatment Center" or ICSNATC we provide treatment for happier people.. side effects may include delusions of grandeur, giving up science, "critical thinking" "skepticism" and a lack of appetite

Originally Posted by Melchior

Or should I ask myself why I'm projecting this person, themaster, Melchior, who seems to be projecting these things?

Did I already ask myself this same question.. I did.. didn't I, Melchior?

Originally Posted by Melchior

Especially with this last one, why is there so much unhappiness that I see around me? What problems am I not looking at?

Yes, why are people unhappy? Why could they possibly be unhappy?

Is it cause there playing a game?

A game of limitation and "who you are not"?

Are you a murderer? or a nice person?

Are you a lovely person or do you feel unhappy cause your parents told you "no"?

Originally Posted by Melchior

Or should I ask myself why I'm projecting this person, themaster, Melchior, who seems to be projecting these things?



Especially with this last one, why is there so much unhappiness that I see around me? What problems am I not looking at?

And here's a interesting one.. why are you asking these questions, Melchior..?

Why do you keep pushing the envelope ehh..??

What is it your trying to say is bad about me.. or are you making a observation?

In most of our engagements you seem to feel a annoyance.. (quoting you without quotes from johns thread)

Why continue to rub the wound?

Why sink your teeth into it and let more blood flow?

Why not just be "live and let live" see I think you have once again bitten the preverbal bullet of "wrong way to be"

Originally Posted by Melchior

Especially with this last one, why is there so much unhappiness that I see around me? What problems am I not looking at?

Yah, know Melchioir.. I feel pretty happy.. I feel chipper..

So I don't think I see unhappiness.. I think I observe "unhappiness"

And why are people unhappy?

Simple answer.. because there fighting for there limitations.. even as you are here fighting for yours..

Would you like to talk about limitations..?? I would.. In a effort and idea to make you more happy

[Melchior]

Originally Posted by themaster

And here's a interesting one.. why are you asking these questions, Melchior..?

Why do you keep pushing the envelope ehh..??

What is it your trying to say is bad about me.. or are you making a observation?

Because this is what I see in my reality, and I want it to be resolved.

Why not just be "live and let live" see I think you have once again bitten the preverbal bullet of "wrong way to be"

If that's what you've interpreted my words as, I wonder why?

And why are people unhappy?

Simple answer.. because there fighting for there limitations.. even as you are here fighting for yours..

Would you like to talk about limitations..?? I would.. In a effort and idea to make you more happy

So why am I observing this limitation of themaster preaching about limitation and unhappiness? Perhaps it's because I'm unhappy with myself, and there are limitations that I would like to remove. Why do I see themaster as unhappy in his preaching? What is it that I'm unhappy with myself? Unhappy at the reminder that I'm still limited by seeing limitation around me, perhaps. But I'm not going to ignore this, I'm not going to be lazy about this, because I want an answer. But what do I not like about you that is also a part of myself? I wonder if I change, if you would change too. I get it, but why are you still there to remind me? Maybe I don't need reminding this time, and themaster is the only one I've seen reminding me about unhappiness anyway, the only one who keeps preaching about our limitations.

How about you stop? I don't need you anymore, I've never needed you.
Can I talk to the real themaster now?

[Okay]

the master,

I think you are too enamored with your own endless speils. I can hardly figure out what any of them mean--even from an "anything could mean anything" point of view, which is really no point of view, which people often like to take on these forums. If I was your teacher--which I'm not of course--I would tell you to ease up on the cascade of amorphous words and be quiet.

I sound presumptuous, right? Well, from a LOA perspective, if I'm responding to you than I must see myself in what you're doing. I think you're confused. Your confusion is my confusion. Clever concepts, new age terminology, are not spirituality. Stop spinning your endless mirrors of words.

[cylon]

Originally Posted by Okay

the master,

I think you are too enamored with your own endless speils. I can hardly figure out what any of them mean--even from an "anything could mean anything" point of view, which is really no point of view, which people often like to take on these forums. If I was your teacher--which I'm not of course--I would tell you to ease up on the cascade of amorphous words and be quiet.

I sound presumptuous, right? Well, from a LOA perspective, if I'm responding to you than I must see myself in what you're doing. I think you're confused. Your confusion is my confusion. Clever concepts, new age terminology, are not spirituality. Stop spinning your endless mirrors of words.

Actually for fun I'd like to see him do the opposite just because it would be other than what you want.

For someone who wants people to be "quiet" you make a lot of brusque, hurtful remarks towards people. Have you found the "quiet" in your own life?

The interesting thing is that this thread was created by themaster to freely express himself, yet he's been met with a lot of resistance in this thread. "Don't express yourself! I do not deem you worthy to have such an opinion on channeling. And what's more, I'm going to critique not only your content, but your delivery."

It's like, who cares? Where's the threat? If themaster wants to talk about he thinks he's channeling, why is that a threat to anyone?

And for what it's worth, I don't think believing in S.R. gives one license to be mean and cruel to others. "Hey since you're a manifestation of my consciousness, I'm going to make you feel like a fool." One who feels connected doesn't walk around tearing people apart.

Maybe that's the lesson I created YOU, to teach me. If there is wholeness in this universe, it won't be achieved by holding up the mirror and saying "you are no good, you are doing it wrong, you aren't up to my standards." Letting go of that is a lesson worth learning. So I guess it means I need to be a bit more aware of when I decide to pass the time by criticizing myself (others).

One thing I've experienced growing up is feeling different and isolated. I'd express myself yet I'd be met with a lot of resistance, people criticizing me, making fun of me... not a unique story but I guess it's followed me here, via this thread.

I guess the only solution is complete self-acceptance and acceptance for others, since they are the same thing.

If we're all connected, being mean to "yourself" seems like a complete waste of time and counter-productive. So go on making fun of people, you will learn the division inherent in that eventually. Guess that's the lesson.

All is well.

[themaster]

Originally Posted by Melchior

Can I talk to the real themaster now?

Projection, elementary my dear watson..

What would make you think that your were never talking to the real me?

See even when people "pretend" to be fake.. there still real.. you dig?

What I'm saying Melchior.. is that you're talking to yourself.. under the concept of "oneness"

And it does feel like as usual Melchior.. your judging a part of yourself (me) as bad..

Originally Posted by Melchior

Because this is what I see in my reality, and I want it to be resolved.

Law of attraction Rule #1 never push against things.. you make them stronger

Originally Posted by Melchior

If that's what you've interpreted my words as, I wonder why?

Hey, don't you know?? I hate and admonish.. diversity.. I believe in "sameness"

We are borg and you will be assimilated

Originally Posted by Melchior

So why am I observing this limitation of themaster preaching about limitation and unhappiness? Perhaps it's because I'm unhappy with myself, and there are limitations that I would like to remove. Why do I see themaster as unhappy in his preaching? What is it that I'm unhappy with myself? Unhappy at the reminder that I'm still limited by seeing limitation around me, perhaps. But I'm not going to ignore this, I'm not going to be lazy about this, because I want an answer. But what do I not like about you that is also a part of myself? I wonder if I change, if you would change too. I get it, but why are you still there to remind me? Maybe I don't need reminding this time, and themaster is the only one I've seen reminding me about unhappiness anyway, the only one who keeps preaching about our limitations.

How about you stop? I don't need you anymore, I've never needed you.
Can I talk to the real themaster now?

Melchior.. it's just a ramble.. it's just asking a question about a question.. it's twisting circles of logics.. it's that really bad "twilight zone" episode where someone whispered something in your ear (secrets to the universe) and everyone who learned it went crazy..

If you want to have a real discussion with me.. let's go back to our *real* discussion.. this is where it last left off.. that I remember..

Originally Posted by Melchior

Not happy when conversing with you, that is for sure. I actually have to take a while before I first read your post and respond so that I have time to get past the irritation.

How's that irritation now?

[themaster]

Originally Posted by Melchior

Like I said in earlier posts, that is something that you're going to have to change for yourself.

I see.. your right.. I'm wrong.. got it.. I should definitely listen to you.. after all it's the smart thing to do right..?

There's a nice story in our society about a very famous poet in the 20's

Anyway.. she really liked this guy.. but she didn't know how to express it.. in this story/book/movie.. she gets told by the guy that there's "something wrong with her" and she should spend some time at a "retreat" aka funny farm.. and get help..

So she goes to this "retreat"/get help place where they perform constant "electroshock" therapy on her.. and the irony of this is.. she comes out of the institution 20 years later and her new psychologist says to her "there was never anything wrong with you.. now we have to reverse all the damage the electroshock therapy did to you.."

So now I ask you Melchior.. why should I listen to you.. or adopt your judgments about me?

See your judgments are your problems projected forth.. every time someone tells me "I'm a wrong way to be" "I should change my communication style (as other than a suggestion)" and then there reflecting how they feel about themselves..

Originally Posted by Okay

If I was your teacher--which I'm not of course--I would tell you to ease up on the cascade of amorphous words and be quiet.

My teachers not into EGO words.. he would say.. sit and be quiet and imagine..

Originally Posted by Okay

I think you are too enamored with your own endless speils. I can hardly figure out what any of them mean--even from an "anything could mean anything" point of view, which is really no point of view, which people often like to take on these forums.

That's Okay.. Okay

I understand a lot of people can't always understand them.. I spent years studying bashar.. and still it took a while to get everything he's saying..

It's why if you ever studied channeled material or any much "higher" vibration material as I have.. you can listen once.. and then listen a little later.. and hear it "entirely different!"

That's what I'm saying.. I am most likely writing such "advanced" material in terms of vibrations that it may be hard for a "laymen" to catch up.. unfortunately I don't wish to write laymen.. I wish to explore advanced loa or ideas/theories of "new age" and that is also a intention of my posts

And so when some people read it.. it's like huh? that doesn't make sense.. (it's just like Melchior's statement above.. it doesn't make sense.. is he writing it to be purposely "circular"? is he writing at a "higher" vibration..? or is he is just playing thinking games of EGO logic and study and think my way out of this box)

He may also just be playing.. I'm going to follow your around and copy your words as I see them (mirror) and I still don't like you

I know it's hard for people to understand me when.. we don't share common facts.. but there aren't any facts with me.. if you want to argue with me that "electricity works".. I'll say.. "sure it works" then I may want to argue how it's a "illusion" and not real.. see I play a flip side of the coin..

Here's my understanding in a nutshell.. all right?

There is the 3d reality.. which is off-balance, rigid, very judgmental , he said/she said, right/wrong, conditional and never etc. etc.

Then there is 4d.. which allows paradox's of what was true a minute ago.. is now true no longer.. in 4d there's unconditional love.. (not conditional) it's just a different way of thinking and being..

And if I've been studying right with my teacher.. my mind is slowly, slowly or quickly there all the time.. and it's why I can read and look at 3d things and say that's silly..

Now is it really wise to argue with 3d people that are silly? (you may ask me.. )

[themaster]

That say.. I have this problem.. child molesters are evil and I hate them.. and I can't be happy as long as there in the world.. these evil child molesters that are not me.. not made of me.. having nothing to do with me.. I hate them.. I hate them.. I hate them.. omg! I've become one.. now I hate myself.. I hate myself.. I hate myself.. and on and on.. the 3d games of judgment and not liking self play on..

Now my simple story here is also a exercise in the law of attraction.. because I'm saying when you FOCUS your hate on "gays" or "child molesters" or whoever.. you will attract them too you.. or even become them..

That's just the way I see 3d problems.. were on a playground and I'm skipping around.. and a lot of you are in your corners.. throwing feces on others which (those others) are yourself.. you do it; day in day out.. and I just want to say.. be happy people.. throwing feces is not necessary

Would every one of you please chill out? Take a load off? Stop playing the judgment game.. and just relax.. go feed your fish.. go take a swim.. let go of things that "don't serve you"

I promise you.. I promise you.. if you'd just relax.. take a load off.. "let go" you'd feel better.. wouldn't it be nice to feel good?

Yes, it's possible.. so just do it..

Originally Posted by Okay

Well, from a LOA perspective, if I'm responding to you than I must see myself in what you're doing.

The intention of my posts is to help myself.. or help "others"

Simple right..?

So what does it say to you?? when you respond in my threads especially in any "negative" "limiting" way which I think you did.. it means you want "help" and your here to try and seek it out

Law of attraction, people!.. just doesn't work with cars, money, boats, lottery tickets and fine mint vermouth

It works with people and forums and html and mysql and text too..

If your attracted to post on something I've said.. if your attracted to post in my thread.. it could mean your attracted to the idea of "exploring your problems" with me.. (and maybe.. exploring my problems.. yah, never know? )

Let's pretend that this is your thread okay??

You said "I channel"

I decided to come into your thread and say..

"You're a liar"
"You spin cobwebs of lies as words"
"I don't like you"



See turn it on the other foot..?? The other cheek..? Pretend with me.. this is your thread.. and you posted "I channel" and your goal with any post automatically is to "help yourself" and "help others"

Now in pretending..?? in playing in my mindset..?? perhaps you can gain a "understanding" of why you're really posting in my thread.. maybe..