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I'm betting the phrasing is irrelevant, insofar as it's just another "effect" - I'm betting there's something special going on in the ALG's "core", and that there's probably no way of ever conveying that by conventional means :-S I just do my best to trust that we all find this mysterious Something within ourselves, eventually.
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However, I've seen just as significant results in people who were closer to survival level. My mom is one who generates *amazing* results that seem like they're out of thin air... checks that would arrive out of nowhere and cover exactly the amount of a bill, for example. For every 1 person who generates prosperity with I/M, I've known more that use it to keep their head above water. What they haven't gotten past, is being able to actually create prosperity as opposed to merely get out of scrapes, and my mom in particular hasn't created much since she started to be in a comfortable solid middle class life... the creation hit a plateau. Anyone got any ideas for her? She's not on the board, btw. I've wondered about this situation myself, though. | |
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My Mom knows nothing of the formal IM/LoA material, and yet she's the same way as yours, if perhaps less dramatically and precisely so. She's told me not a few "help that arrived just in time" stories to encourage me during my frequent past downer moods... Quote:
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So yes.. Same question as Jesann. o_o | |
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ALG, I also really enjoyed the stories. And reading them helped me indirectly check in on my own beliefs about this theme, so thanks for that. More questions for ALG. Not sure I've seen you share this before, but I'm wondering what type of self-hypnosis you tend to do? And did you start out self-hynosis with a specific program or technique (i.e. guided meditation) or is it more like a free-form thing? Also... heh... did you grow up in an environment that made it easy for you to have a wealthy mindset? @jacare: Sounds to me like many people can relate to where you're at on this. My ideas may seem rather silly, but perhaps it would help to renew appreciation for the abundance and wealth that's already in your life? As far as I can tell, ALG is the only regular poster here, at this point, who's flowed beyond the stage of 'always have enough' to rack up a nice nest egg. He's the only one who speaks about it regularly, at least. And I mean, he works for banks, so he deals with large sums a lot, I would bet - I can see how that would also serve to program the mind for abundance. Maybe it's debatable that this stage of 'always have enough' is necessary before moving to lump sums? Idk. Interesting thread, though. |
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Alright, scrap the money stories for now. Otherwise I will appear to be such a money-minded person. Let me move on to OTHER kinds of LOA stories. So my wife was retrenched. Money was not a real concern. But she was pissed about being retrenched. Of course I tried to console her. I told her things like, "Isn't it great - now you can take a break for a few months," and so on. Around that time, my wife had been having uterine fibroids. It was causing her periods to be heavy and painful. She had gone for a scan, and the gynaecologist had confirmed the presence of large fibroids. The doctor prescribed progesterone for my wife. I said, "Now you have the time, you should heal yourself." So my wife did. She used a mind method known as the Silva method (it's another form of LOA technique). Every other day, she sent white light / energy healing etc to her uterus. My wife also had a little help from our magickal friend (a fengshui master). Read more details here. 1.5 months after the scan which detected her fibroids, she went for another check-up. To the doctor's astonishment, the fibroids had disappeared completely. The doctor could not explain it at all. (Note that the progesterone medication is supposed to reduce bleeding, but is not known to make uterine fibroids disappear). |
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Let me demonstrate the possible applications of the Silva Method, for healing purposes. One application is psychic diagnosis. This is a cut-&-paste from my personal blog, sometime in 2008: Quote:
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Another doctor-perplexing situation from my personal life, in July 2008. Here, I use the Silva Method to heal my mother, and the efficacy of the method takes the doctors by surprise. I highlight in bold the parts below, that reflect the doctors' puzzlement. Taken from my blog: Quote:
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Inspired by ALG's insisting that metaphysical methods have worked, and his numerous accounts that he so kindly shared, I've decided to give it another try. It's been my habit to meditate whenever possible lately, and I've found it effective in clearing the noise/signal, and just getting to the signal. At the risk of sounding "nuts" I'll share my findings.... With regards to money, I got an interesting message from "myself" while mediating this morning. The message said to stop all the worry thoughts, and to be open to receiving all of the energy of the universe. Now that is very "woo woo" I know. The message also said to clear out all preconceived notions, and to be open to clues. Also, the other message I received was that my current money making methods are fine, I have to learn to leave them alone. And that my software is fine, but it's time to let it breath on it's own. I have at least three strong real world methods to bring streams of income, each stream being well above average in my part of the world. Software, Consulting, and Markets. But I have to step back and "allow" in other words I'm trying to force the issue too much. One last thing I detected in meditation....I'm giving too much cred to the "whiny, scared" portion of my personality. Another portion of my thoughts has to settle it down so it can get to business. I have to make that portion of my personality the dominant one. Now I really sound nuts! |
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Jacare, with respect, I've been in psychology long enough to get a sense of when someone is rationalizing (as opposed to being rational), and I think this may be one such occasion. I am not saying that you're wrong and I'm right (would I?!), just flagging it up for you in case you want to think about it more. You seem to have a good grasp of logic most of the time, and then type this: Quote:
But that's not all. The sentence also begins "I've been in the markets long enough to know...", which suggests that you may be ignoring Taleb's Black Swan insight, especially as you do not directly respond to the threats I listed to our continued wealth on the planet. People like Taleb were jumping up and down warning us of the coming economic global crisis, saying "just because everything in your financial experience has gone from strength to strength does not mean it will continue that way". Taleb exposes a deep flaw in human psychology - and that short page has much to say about our irrational assessment of all sorts including the CoA. Unfortunately the human psychology may be hard to change. As you say... Quote:
The fairly stable psychology, in combination with the stimulated growth economy, can be expected to do very little to reduce the population explosion. Quote:
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However, it may not be a very powerful effect. Oil is used not only in the mechanised growing of crops but the intensive use of artificial fertilizers, by which we have been artificially sucking more food out of the ground than the ground would naturally produce - as I heard it expressed in one lecture on macro-economics (paraphrasing), our culture sustains an unnatural population density by turning oil into food - we eat oil, like those bugs we'd like to have more of in the Gulf. We're turning on to organic growing, but organic farming, for all its benefits, is at the cost of that massive overproduction we've relied on. I feel fairly confident about the science behind global warming, which predicts pretty severe changes in climate to cope with, the flooding of many highly populated, highly industrialised and agriculturally productive coastal regions, and the movement of large numbers of climate refugees. Now, even if we change our energy sources and food production and find a way to house and feed the uprooted populations, we will only be putting off the crisis as long as we're trying to do either of these: stimulate the economy (i.e. going for growth and wealth); increasing our population. Doing both together is a sure-fire recipe for mass starvation further down the line. That's not so much pessimistic opinion as Ordinary Level Biology, a simple, extremely well-established ecological fact. We can extend the growth much further in theory, using solar energy to grow vats of micro-organisms to eat while we pile ourselves physically into the sky and tunnel into the surface, but the ecological fact remains, and the consequences (in terms of death and suffering) just get worse the longer we ignore it. If this macro-economics is for conversation only, that's why we're on this road. That's my "valid over-pessimistic view that has no bearing on reality" at least - and I've not added into that mix the water crisis and any future wars over our increasingly scarce resource of land. The less-rich nations weren't too happy about us lending them money so that they'd not be able to pay it back so we could have them sell us everything from asbestos to zinc for slave wages, while we built military bases, stole their oil, wrecked their economies, and called the resulting anger "terrorism". We're now buying up land in places like Africa to grow crops to feed the rich, and to hell with the natives. Quote:
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Hello John, First of all, I do not believe there is any scarcity of oil at all. None, we're floating on the stuff. Now, granted, a lot of it is from the Gulf "heavy oil", but we have a lot of it. I did a fling with trading oil futures, and did a real deep dive into oil reserves, and what moves the price of oil. My findings? It's all manipulation and b.s. They peg the price of oil to the reserves of "light sweet crude" in the US. Those reserves can be drained or topped off to suit the needs of the price market. Meanwhile, the headlines scream shortage, but Saudi tankers are lined up as far as the eye can see with no port to take them So, needless to say, I don't buy into the oil shortage. There is an end to it, of course, but it is well past our lifetimes, and the lifetimes of our children. And technology being what it is, we can't even imagine the wonders we will create by then. My second response is that an overly pessimistic macro economic view does not do the individual investor any good, it only clouds the judgement. And it does nothing to improve the situation itself. I'd been negative on the Real Estate market for years, while watching housing go up and up. My overly pessimistic point of view kept me out when I should have been buying. We only have here and now, we can take a glance to the future, but to base today's decisions on it, I believe, is counter productive. For the individual, that is. For government officials, and planners it may be different, they need long range plans. |
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(a) Go to a quiet place, lie down and close your eyes (b) get into trance, by using whatever methods work for you. For example, one method is progressive muscular relaxation. Another method is to visualise and count numbers backward, eg 100 ... 99 ... 98 etc. A third method is to pay attention to very fine bodily sensations (this is a kind of meditation too). A 4th method is to give yourself suggestions such as how you feel like sinking into a deeper, quieter place etc etc. A 5th method has you visualising things like walking down a staircase, step by step, and as you take each step, you go to a deeper part of your mind. (Or you could listen to a hypnotic recording (which guides you through the above). Google and see). (c) Then you can start mentally talking to yourself, giving yourself whatever positive suggestions you want. Quote:
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Hey, JohnFreestone, you can't say you didn't see that ban coming! I understand much of your frustration, though, and I'm sorry to see you go. Best wishes and happy trails! Lots of love from Angela |
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Well, this is the way I do it. Going into alpha or deep alpha or trance is the important first step. After that, I pick my words right there and then, intuitively. It's not like I have a favourite phrase or statement, and that I just go into alpha and repeat it many times. It's more like I go into alpha, and then I have a conversation with myself, and also with my intention. I feeeeeel all the words, and based on my feelings, I re-pick and re-choose my words, to get what feels most right and good to me. It's not necessarily a logical conversation, it can be meandering; dreamy; imaginative and repetitive, circling round and round the same intention. It can also get a little .... weird. Like, once when I was attempting to attract my ideal home, I ended up talking to the house, as if it were alive. I mean, REALLY alive. Like, I talked about how nice if my family were to live in you; we would be so happy there; and we would take really good care of you, wouldn't you like that? You'd be clean and neat, I have a maid who does all the housework. And we are nice people, my kids are cute, they will be laughing and playing all day long. Sometimes they fight, but overall I really think that you would like them a lot. Quite "Alice in Wonderland". Also, I can throw in images and emotions .... but mainly I still use words. Oh, it's nice to also think some BIG power thoughts, at the start or at the end of the session, eg general thoughts about the power of your own mind; or about how the universe is abundant etc. If had to put it verbally, I probably had done something like this, for my money intention: Quote:
If I am working on two or more intentions in a single session, I will normally spend a few minutes in pure meditation, after finishing one intention, and before going on to the next intention. The other tip I have is this - You will have doubts. You will either have doubts about your intention; or doubts about the LOA; or doubts about your ability with the LOA; or some combination thereof. The important thing is to remind yourself that you're just going to suspend your doubts for 10 minutes, 20 minutes, while you do your mind session. That's all you have to do - put away your doubts for 10, 20 minutes. Last edited by Acting Like Godot; 07-20-2010 at 11:30 PM. | ||
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Yesterday, as posted, I decided to "let go". Also, to persue my ultimate dream of working in the markets/trading for a living. This stuff may be a coincidence... 1. Sales of my software product had a sudden spiked 2. I was called out of the blue by the largest stock/options trading exchange in the world, and I'm going to interview with them at a 50% increase in my current rate. Weird stuff, I couldn't make this up. I'll post here what develops. It wouldn't be so weird if it didn't happen on the very same exact day that I resolved in public (on this board) to do this stuff. Now lots of people will think I'm nutz. I'll post here what happens. Edit: This is a true story. I'm just posting the facts. Based on this experiment, I'm going to manifest for 1 million dollars to "appear" in my account, with good for all and harm for none. Last edited by jacare; 07-21-2010 at 01:14 PM. |
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