Total and utter Surrender is the key

[oasis]

Interesting, very interesting. You could almost phrase it, I think, in that if things happen to you as a result of another part of consciousness(individual) intending something, because of the fact that we're all connected and one, then you in a sense created that circumstance because there is no separation and you and that other individual are one. So in a sense, you created it in the first place, you're just not aware of it.

For example if someone says hello to you, its not so much "them" who carried it out, it's you at some level, you created a need for someone to greet you. But the infinite consciousness knew how things were originally going to be carried out.

So, anything in the world that any of us is perceiving, is all a result of the infinite consciousness enveloping us all, carrying out its "master plan". So in a sense we all manifested this guidance as the greater consciousness(though seemingly separate) from Nic to help us in understanding the nature of the universe. At the same time Nic manifested us all at some level to help her. At some level there is a connection; this is where logic and words fails me.

[nicbrahms]

Originally Posted by oasis

Interesting, very interesting. You could almost phrase it, I think, in that if things happen to you as a result of another part of consciousness(individual) intending something, because of the fact that we're all connected and one, then you in a sense created that circumstance because there is no separation and you and that other individual are one. So in a sense, you created it in the first place, you're just not aware of it.

For example if someone says hello to you, its not so much "them" who carried it out, it's you at some level, you created a need for someone to greet you. But the infinite consciousness knew how things were originally going to be carried out.

So, anything in the world that any of us is perceiving, is all a result of the infinite consciousness enveloping us all, carrying out its "master plan". So in a sense we all manifested this guidance as the greater consciousness(though seemingly separate) from Nic to help us in understanding the nature of the universe. At the same time Nic manifested us all at some level to help her. At some level there is a connection; this is where logic and words fails me.

Its the zero point field that connects us.

Also my friend I was talking to God about what was required of me to enable something to happen, and I was thinking it would probs be surrender and then hey presto this thread is at the top of the forum staring me in the face.

So you as me as God just gave me the answer to my question.

Now thats poetic beauty right there.


Peace and thank you my friend.

[oasis]

Yeah quite amazing, you helped me as well, cos I just felt like going through the older threads and I just happened to click on this one. Very interesting stuff, thanks for the info in the thread.

[themaster]

Originally Posted by oasis

Yeah quite amazing, you helped me as well, cos I just felt like going through the older threads and I just happened to click on this one. Very interesting stuff, thanks for the info in the thread.

Nic's always helping people!

She just wakes up.. looks around.. and helps people!

It's unofficially.. "appreciate nic day" shh.. don't tell anyone.. it's a secret!

To correctly state, nic helps people.. by being herself.. she does that so often it's amazing..

[nicbrahms]

Originally Posted by themaster

Nic's always helping people!

She just wakes up.. looks around.. and helps people!

It's unofficially.. "appreciate nic day" shh.. don't tell anyone.. it's a secret!

To correctly state, nic helps people.. by being herself.. she does that so often it's amazing..

Ahhhhh bless you, or is that sarcasm?

Either way I still love you like melted chocolate loves a baby's face.

Muah.

[themaster]

Originally Posted by nicbrahms

Ahhhhh bless you, or is that sarcasm?

Either way I still love you like melted chocolate loves a baby's face.

Muah.

Sarcasm..?? You have wronged me, sir <slaps you with left latex glove> (I was doing the dishes )

[nicbrahms]

Originally Posted by themaster

Sarcasm..?? You have wronged me, sir <slaps you with left latex glove> (I was doing the dishes )

The master doing dishes, whatever next?

xxxxxx

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by Solipsist

Nicky, I assumed you already knew that total and utter surrender was the key. (But in another thread, didn't you once say that you were done with that, or something?)

I dunno, Nic... hard to keep up with you.

Isn't total and utter surrender the same as being done with all that?

I mean, you have to also surrender the idea of needing to surrender.

Also, for me, it seems to be a very active state to be in surrender. Probably because in the way I resist I am passive - so be in surrender is less passive. Does that sound ironic?

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by moonrambler

The only thing is, if there is no free will on any level, then I cannot choose to surrender, because it's all scripted.

Then if there's no choice, we are all already in surrender mode! But we think we aren't.

Although I know you also cannot choose whether or not you're going to write these comments either. You have to do it, because it's scripted, even though it's futile because nobody has the capability of making a decision to surrender.

It's not a decision - it's a seeing. It dawns on you. It is not of your volition (since we don't have free will)

Some people will surrender, some will debate, some will click off without even thinking about it. But it's all scripted and nobody can stop or change their actions. Is that the way you see it?

Sometimes I think one can click into grace and it does change your actions. If you can come from pure mindful being, it does change what your actions are. You get more peaceful. But this is not really an action or a desire that is being acted on. It's just being able to let it be and be yourself, and the grace of peace is seen in your life. It comes to us without us pushing for it, when we let go. But even trying to let go is pushing for it - so stop that too! ohmy, never ending isn't it?

[Primus]

Hy Nic & folks!
Been reading these posts for a while and I must say I really enjoy these disscussions
So Nic...surrenderring and letting go of your desire is the key of manifestation?
Wanna know your opinion In short that is
Thx!

[nicbrahms]

Primus, surrender is key at a certain point of the manifestation of yourself.

I have now discovered that full and complete surrender is not required all the time.

After I did it once completely, I find it diffucult to go back to that place. I now believe it is like intense thought for something you want, in that it brings the thing you want around faster.

I find that one honest surrender will be enough, until you build up resistance or attachment in that you need to do it again.

It sort of resets you, recrystallises you.

Peace

[Federer]

Originally Posted by nicbrahms

Okay on surrender. Further notes.


I have continued in my surrender vein and it has been most amazing.

I have continued to surrender amazing things are happening, thoughts occur within minutes.

So I have started stripping away everything, so when I surrender now, I am surrendering of every part of the illusion, shedding all the illusions of seperation.

I surrender my breathing, my thinking, my being.
I surrender my thoughts, my mind, the very space I lie in, my desires, needs, wants.
I then go through my body and surrender all my body functions, I surrender my identity.
I even surrender unconditonaly love and acceptance.

I turn myself into a blank slate.

I have noticed at these times this blissful feeling comes over me, it comes up my spine and enters my head and it is pure bliss. I was working on it this morning. I encountered the bliss several times. It is gorgeous feeling.

I told you all that I had withdrawn all my power from money and bills and any money owed anywhere, today I got my first proof that things just dissappear, still linearly, but nonetheless gone.




The above letter was to my partner and they sent him 5 letters demanding payment for something. Then all of a sudden this arrives.

There is no way he could have just got on their system, beautiful ain't it.

I just rip bills up and throw them, I have decided I shall never pay another penny out anywhere that is with effort. I give tips and give money away and spend it on loved ones and others and lend it.

So essentially people live without fear, see the illusions for what they are and reclaim your power, decide how it will be from now on and live your life like that.

As bashar says do what you want, when you want.

Thats the key.

I have many thoughts that I think can help and I will come back.

Thank you for this. I surrender myself here.

[JeffistheAnswer]

Haha, when I read your first post nic, I first thought "Wow, it's this crazy chick again! Wonder what she has to say this time..." Anyways, this has been really synchronous with my thoughts lately, the letting go and surrendering and all that. When you KNOW your desires will be fulfilled in just the right way and in just the perfect time, it makes things a whole lot easier. Especially for me, because I am quite lazy.

[Diandra25]

where are you dear Nic?

[nicbrahms]

Still here sweet Diandra, just reading more and writing less, for I know you all already know all that I do.

Funny how this thread always pops up when I think I need to remember to surrender completely again.

[James81]

Originally Posted by nicbrahms

Funny how this thread always pops up when I think I need to remember to surrender completely again.

I have a similar experience.

This thread always seems to pop up at times to remind me to drink more milk.

[nicbrahms]

Originally Posted by James81

I have a similar experience.

This thread always seems to pop up at times to remind me to drink more milk.

Yep, yep, thats got it, yep........ the image of you suckling on a cows teat.

You go boy and have your glass and a half, udderly delicious.

[James81]

Originally Posted by nicbrahms

yep, yep, thats got it, yep........ The image of you suckling on a cows teat.

You go boy and have your glass and a half, udderly delicious.

ETA: Unbreak lil smiley...unbreak.