Total and utter Surrender is the key

[nicbrahms]

Each time that you feel overwhelmed or fearful of the future, celebrate! Of course, beloved
one, you do not feel like celebrating; yet we say to you, during those times your entire manner of
relating to your beauteous journey is restructuring itself. That is, your manner of perceiving the
cause and effect, your manner of attracting fulfillment according to your thoughts and feelings,
and your manner of expanding consciousness… all are realigning themselves… to your greatest
benefit.
Then you might be wondering, what do I do during times of confusion or fear? To which we
would say the words with which you are perhaps most familiar. The words are “let go”. That is,
allow the resettling and realigning to occur. When you let go, you are actually in that moment not
placing your interpretation of “confusion” or “fear” upon the realignment of your systems. That
means, beloved one, that they will align themselves according to your highest and most
expanded manner of residing within physicality. Each time that you awaken and expand your
consciousness, your entire system realigns itself.
Why? To deliver to you those abilities and frequencies which assist you upon your grande
journey to knowing the more of who you are. And it is only when you are focused on a
destination and not within the journey, that you interpret with frustration, confusion, or fear. Ah!
Do you not find that most interesting?
And it is your glorious journey that gifts you with fulfillment and your fulfillment and joy within
it gifts humanity. We are humbled in the knowing of you…
There resides one moment in every one of your days wherein you know beyond a doubt that
you are more than the persona within which you are experiencing your journey. And it is within
that moment that your consciousness expands and delivers to you Truth. And it is this Truth that
activates the encodings that reside within the fabric of your being.
Yet as you go along within your day, you only know that you had a moment wherein you
knew…something grande. And there resides within your being the yearning to know more. Such
yearning to know more is interpreted in many ways. One way can be found in your search for the
secrets of ancient times; for the meanings of symbols and scripts that were once secreted away
and are now being discovered, causing a reinterpretation of spiritual doctrine; and your yearning
to know more can be found in your desire to travel out of your own body and beyond the physical.
And we say to you, beloved beings, that all yearning to know more, all search for the secret
meanings and powers, and all desires to travel beyond the physical… are, each and every one, an
interpretation of your inner spirit’s spurring you on to discover more and more of your very own
self. It is your continue experience of your own self within all of your yearnings and searchings
and journeys that is the real answer.
Always, beloved ones, is your discovery of your own self – beyond the personas of this
lifetime – that nourishes your spirit, fulfills your purposes, and more so, gives great glorious
celebration within the entire universe. Perhaps you will reflect upon these words?
Beloved One, in each of the moments in each day, do we breathe a breath of love and truth
about you that you might be bathed in that which you are…
At times that which we find ourselves giving up, surrendering, or losing seems to be a defeat
in our search to be secure in our world. Yet we say to you, security resides within your very own
self. And it is your caring for yourself that delivers to you the relief that you seek, even when the
relief means that you will give up what you believe makes you who you are.
There are many now who are losing their homes, their jobs, their relationships. Yet this has
been occurring upon earth for a very long time. This occurrence is truly not new. Yet the media
tells you that it is a horrible time. And we say to you, beloved one, dare to lose. Dare to give up.
Dare to change. And… dare to interpret your change as beneficial, as a new direction, as relief. It
is only in retrospect that you discover the joy that has been awaiting you.
And while you may be saying, giving up my home is not joyful, we say to you, you will always
have a home. This change that is occurring in your life is the shaking up of the consciousness
and the realigning of physicality. You have the phrase “when the dust settles” and we say, when
the change settles, you will most definitely discover that you have been not only cared for, but
that the change that you believe you were forced to make was actually a great gift. And yes, in
this moment that interpretation is barely recognized. Yet it does exist. The possibility that this
change will benefit you does exist, beloved one.
Always are you cared for…
, beloved one, what do we really mean by the words “giving up”? For many are residing
within that moment of despair wherein they feel that they have no other alternative but to give up.
In the past of your living, giving up meant to give up on your own life, to give up on your dream, to
give up on a new manner of living perhaps because the results did not manifest as you planned.
There are a multitude of interpretations for the feeling inside, and the feeling inside is truly one of
being lost… lost to the wholeness of spirit and of that which you are.
Then in this speaking, beloved one, we refer to giving up as a manner of surrendering your
interpretation and attitudes about what is occurring in your life. We are referring to surrendering
everything and giving up trying to make things happen. And you might be saying or thinking that
if you don’t keep struggling, everything will fall apart. Yet we say to you, if you do not surrender to
the Universe, to that which you call God/Goddess, it is you who will fall apart. And it is YOU
whose journey this is.
The other missing ingredient within surrendering or giving up the interpretation of what is
occurring, of changing disdain for the non-fulfillment of your efforting, is that which is called
gratitude. And though you may not feel like being grateful, it is because you are residing in that
for which you are not grateful… the struggle. Yet if you for one moment begin to allow yourself
the relief of stating even ten items for which you are grateful, you will find a certain peace entering
your being. And you might be tempted, with your attitude of disdain for unfulfillment, to close the
door on gratitude and its resultant peace; yet we say to you, open this door wider! Dare!
Then you might be asking, is gratitude the missing ingredient and we would respond by
saying that listening is the missing ingredient. Listening for your own guidance, for your own
invitation to take an action that is not of survival. What does this mean? It means that this part of
the journey is actually inviting you, begging you, to begin to once again listen to your own
messages, to your own hints, to your own invitation to a kind of action that you have forgotten for
a while.
Forgetting is not a crime nor is it unspiritual. Forgetting is simply part of your journey within
placing your feet upon a different path, one different from survival, one different from extreme
efforting to make the physical manifest according to your survival needs whilst your are suffering
within.

[nicbrahms]

And the change that has been residing within your consciousness, the change which has
been interpreted as something that you will participate within “after” what you would like to
manifest , manifests itself… the change is to care for your inner self first. We say to you, better to
live under the branches of a tree than to suffer greatly whilst living in a mansion.
Begin. Begin within this day to listen to the small messages that come to you. And if you are
saying to yourself that you never hear your messages, we say to you, change that statement.
Change your manner of receiving your own invitations to change, to joy. How? Instead of
thinking that you never receive your messages and creating a rough road for that message to find
its way to your conscious recognition, say to yourself… in this day I will easily and joyfully hear all
of my messages, all of my guidance, and I will accept the invitation to take action. We ask you, is
this not an easier pathway for your messages to reach your conscious recognition? Of course.
Then know that you are loved, that the wondrous journey awaits you. Dare to surrender your
beliefs, your effortings, your attitudes, your disdain. Dare to embrace the love that ever flows to
you. Dare to reside within gratitude. Dare to listen to your messages. And, beloved one, dare to
take the action your message, your guidance invites you to dance within. You may truly enjoy
this dance… if you allow yourself the freedom… to part the seas of suffering, the seas of disdain
for non-fulfillment, the seas of negativity… and to reside within one moment of joy, of relief, of the
delight in the dance.
Then let us speak of change, for within your earthly experiences you have concluded that
change is difficult, that change removes from you that which you love, or that change is
something that happens to you without your choice or participation. And of course, we are
speaking of a different interpretation and experience within that called change.
While it is true that many have experienced grave difficulties and resultant suffering which has
been called change, we would call such difficulties and suffering survival. An though there
resides within the patterns of survival those opportunities to emerge from its grasp, survival itself
propagates that which is called, in your vocabulary, the bottom falling out. That is, survival
promotes not being able to trust the cause and effect, not being able to trust any fulfillment lest it
fall away and cause you pain of loss; survival promotes suffering. Why?
It is suffering within survival that causes you to want something else, to want not only relief,
but permanent trustworthy relief. And within that wanting there resides your invitation to dare, as
we have been using that word, to dare to change. And what kind of change are you daring to
make, to enter within?
You are then daring to change the manner within which you interpret your circumstances. Do
you hear those words? We are not saying that you are changing the circumstances; we are
saying that you are then daring to change the manner in which you interpret them. And you might
feel that such a change is unworthy of your deep desires for trustworthy permanent relief; yet we
say to you, this change always begins with you… even when the external circumstances appear
to be beyond your control.
And you would then naturally ask if you change your interpretation, will the external
circumstances change to fulfill your needs. Of course you would ask such a question. Why?
Because, beloved one, you are still residing within survival and you believe that your external
circumstances will give you peace, will give you happiness, and will give you relief. And when you
reside within survival and suffering, such a statement is true. Yet you have determined that you
no longer can continue to suffer, to survive, to struggle, to effort when you no longer have the
strength to effort.
To change your manner of interpreting the circumstances is major, beloved one. Such a
change may seem to you to be insignificant. Yet we say to you, we challenge you to dare to
change the way you are interpreting what is occurring in your life. And how would you change?
Firstly, we ask you to cease from believing that you are a victim to your circumstances. And
again you may say that you are a victim, that no matter how hard you tried, the results remained
the same… and you were caused to continue to struggle. And again we say to you, that is called
survival. And, beloved one, the first step out of survival is to refuse that you are powerless, to
refuse that you are a victim to the circumstances. And, beloved one… you cannot know this to be
true until you begin this change. You cannot know relief from survival whilst you remain within it.
Secondly, we ask you to release your grasp on manipulating the cause and effect. And you
may ask, does this mean that I should cease from paying my bills? And we do loved you deeply
for such asking. When we say the words “release your grasp” we are referring to your efforting to
think the right way, say the right words, feel the right feelings, arrange your finances so that some
miracle will happen and you will discover that someone has deposited into your physical bank
account a few thousand of your dollars. We are asking you to release your efforting to be
different that who you are, how you are.
Thirdly, we ask you to recognize that everything that occurs in your life, manifests from within
to without. And again you may say that you have been causing yourself to think positive
thoughts, to love, to be as perfect as you could… and nothing manifested the way you needed it
to manifest. And we say to you, you have interpreted this manner of being whilst you continued
to reside within survival.
When we say that everything manifests from within to without, we are referring to truth. When
your extreme efforting is not working, then to admit that truth and to accept it is a wondrous step.
It says that there must be, has to be something more, something greater. And that recognition is
called an awakening.
Fourth, when you cease from efforting, when you embrace change – knowing that it will
deliver to you not only relief, but will result in joy, and when you ask of the Universe – or of
God/Goddess – to arrange everything according to your highest fulfillment; then you are
beginning to manifest from within to without. You are recognizing that there is a greater fulfillment
than that which you have devised whilst you resided within suffering. You are recognizing that
there is a greater force than your human efforting. You are recognizing that you do participate
within this change; your participating holds the ingredients of surrendering, embracing the
change in whatever form will deliver to you relief… trustworthy relief, and the ingredient of
choosing to receive fulfillment of your heart’s desires.
And how will you receive the fulfillment of your heart’s desires if you do not know them? And,
beloved one, we ask you, how can you know your heart’s desires whilst you are residing within
survival and suffering? Hear these words: when you begin to change, when you accept the
invitation to change, and when you let go of your efforting… something occurs. You begin to feel
a tiny thread of peace, and though the thread is tiny and thin, it is strong and if you grasp on to
peace, inner peace, you will discover that the thread builds and becomes a haven within which
you can heal from the battering of survival.
And it is within this healing that you can begin to ask of your own lovely glorious heart, what
is my heart’s desire. And, dear beloved one, the answer will not only surprise you, it will begin to
be filled and fulfilled in the moment of realization. This is the nature of your awakening.
Lastly, when you begin to hear your own guidance, your own invitation to participate further
within this great glorious change, go forth… knowing that each step that you take within the
going forth is a closing of the door to survival and suffering. And, beloved one, you mind cannot
deliver to you this experience… it is your experience that delivers to you all of which we have
been speaking.
We are with you always. When you are daring to change, ask of our assistance, and we are at
your side. Perhaps you will feel our strength about you. And, beloved one, in your painful
survival, if you do not feel our strength, we are still at your side.
Expanded Consciousness

[Alchemist Him]

Originally Posted by nicbrahms

You know its not easy, not complete surrender, its the truth, it took me 11 months to get here...

This and the rest of the quote that follows... it struck a chord in me.

The last few weeks I've been netsurfing for some wisdom and coming up with negativity and obscurity, and finally, FINALLY, in your discussion of surrender is the nearly ineffable message I needed to find.

So thank you and, erm,... hi, first post.

[dmac]

Hi, can I ask what "process" you fellas are talking about?
sounds good!
Duncan

[Lazygirl]

I just read what you wrote Nic and i must say, once again i am amazed.
Yesterday, i thought about surrender, conciousness, awareness before going to sleep until now.
I had many surprises today, i'd written a thread about the things i wanted and how they never seem to work. I wanted a car, friends to hang out with on weekends, better relationship with my dad, being able tp decide how would spend my own money and more.
I woke up and went to visit my aunt, who i had promised to go see her and her new baby girl but never acttually went there because i was too wrapped up in my life.
It was an amazing experience. Her baby is soooo pretty, beautifull, i just couldn't stop starring at her. Her name is Nicole. Okay, while i was there my aunt asked how where things and she was different this time, more receptive. I talked to her about my life and she listened to me. she told me things will work themselves out and she said she wanted to surprise me with a car, but she preferred to tell me now so i can choose the right one, i couldnt believe it and couldnt accept such a gift. Though she said she has a right to gift her niece she cares about. Her neighboor, a girl my age came over. She'd once offered to help me with math but i didnt care much because i was so caught up trying to make friends with the ''cool'' people in college. She asked me if the books she lend me where helpful and we talked for a while, before she left she invited me to come to her small 18 birthday party. Is this normal?
I talked to my aunt about the possibility of me getting a job, just so i don't have to beg my dad for money and get to decide what i will spend even a small dime on. She told me she has an airway friend who could probably give me a job, that pays well.

While i was there she shared her experiences with me and it got me looking at things differently.

I was also surprised to come home and notice my dad i will dare to say happy. He was talking to me, listening and wow optimistic.

These as i see them are the hints that things can happen and the things you want can and indeed will come to you when you are not trying so hard. I mean not in a million years i could even think my aunt wanted to give me a car when i turn 18. And i was feeling down because a car didn't seem possible because my dad is worried about buying land and building a house.
Also before i read what you posted Nic i thought about how we have fear or worry first and it's not because of some reason. You don't stop worrying, reasons just keep coming and coming, until you decide to stop. Until you let go.

[wstein]

Nic (and others): Have you considered impeccability (as per used by Toltecs and other Shamanic traditions)? It's about being true to yourself and the situation you are in and not 'giving in' to other outside influences. This never means to do what others tell you just because they tell you. Part of it is to acknowledge the world around you and to act accordingly. You must decide what is 'appropriate' to do and then do it.

A lot of it seems similar to surrendering in that you watch the world around you, accept it as it is, and seldom act. The difference is that in impeccability, there are times that demand your action. Most of the time of course there is nothing that need be changed by you.

[supermark]

I was kind of in this state a week ago. For some reason I'm just open, and not feeling any worry at all, just ready and open for anything. Then my dream company called me for a job interview, but I already have a job and bond contract even, but I said ok. It's just an interview, and I already have a job, and it doesn't conflict with my schedule so I said yes since I don't feel like I'll lose anything. After the interview they called me again for a panel interview, this time it's in conflict with my schedule, but I feel like taking the risk but still open to whatever can happen whether I get it or not, so I took it. I go to the second interview, and then after that they called me again for the final interview this monday, telling me they are trying to hasten my application because I'm already employed so I need a 30 day notice before getting out of my company, and I got good feedback from my past interviewers. By this time I already felt worried, because it seems that getting a job in my dream company seems more and more real, and so I panicked, thought of my bond, how many months would it take to pay it, etc, as well as how I really wanted this job versus the one I had now. I was thinking this for the whole weekend, and come monday, I was late for the interview. Totally blew it, the interviewer who was a big boss was pissed at me for being late, it felt more like an interoggation.

Now I feel frustrated, nowhere near the openness for anything that I was feeling a week before. I'm starting to hate my current job, wondering why I was here when I could have been with my dream company. I already received their rejection email, but still hoping they give me another shot at this or change their mind. I'm trying to get back to this state, but it's a little hard when I feel like I lost a big opportunity at my dream company.

p.s. i was writing this before i get to page 4 of this thread, but nic's top post on this page made me feel better somewhat. haha. thanks nic, your posts are wonderful.

[Federer]

Originally Posted by nicbrahms

Say the following.

I surrender, I surrender totally and utterly all that I am.
I surrender my mind, body and spirit now.
I surrender every thought in my head and all my ways now.
I surrender in complete and total abandon now.
I trust in God and I love unconditionally and in total acceptance of all that is.
I let everything go now, even the breathe I take and trust it to God.
I surrender.
I am ready to walk toward the unknown, and know that I am the wholeness of being, the truth and I am fulfilled.
Thy will be done.

Let your tension, and thoughts fall away, essentially become empty a blank state.

This is useful for me. This is my new habit which i invest for one month. Thank you. I will read your thread very slowly. Because you know i want to know more. Universal language. Love it.

Peace and love you to nic.

- Ravin

[nicbrahms]

Originally Posted by Alchemist Him

This and the rest of the quote that follows... it struck a chord in me.

The last few weeks I've been netsurfing for some wisdom and coming up with negativity and obscurity, and finally, FINALLY, in your discussion of surrender is the nearly ineffable message I needed to find.

So thank you and, erm,... hi, first post.

Thank you and glad to be of hellp.

Welcome.

Love and light friend.

[nicbrahms]

I have come to the conclusion there is absolutely no free will not at any level.

We are each governed by our greater self and in effect our God self and we are working as one consciousness.

In the awareness we are in there is the illusion of free will. I have now observed things over the course of my experience and have discovered there is no free will.

There is this little bit in this awareness there is the infinitely greater part as the oversoul and there is infinitely more that is in higher dimensions. Each a part of the whole and yet the complete whole.

In line with my thinking the only thing you can do is surrender and the quicker you do it the quicker your life experience will play out the way you as God decided it would play out.

In saying that, there is a script in place before we ever even got here and each of us is reading from that script. Your Godself decides how the experience plays out, and as God is all and infinite and without time, it makes no logical sense to imply we have freewill. We are linear beings in a playing field that has no time for the I am that is instrumental in our experience.

I am knows all, I am plays all, I am has already decided.

Free will could only come with individualised consciousness and we are not that.

Whilst connected to the all that we are, we can not have free will, only the illusion of it.

So surrender and let the game play out, thats all any of us could ever have done.

Just surrender and trust.

[nicbrahms]

My surrender has now evolved.

Before I was surrendering with the knowledge that everything is going to be ok and I will have everything I want as myself knows what I want.

Now I surrender in a different way, subtle but different and easier and more knowledgable and more trusting.

I surrender knowing that everything in my experience is scripted and I never really had any say, in this awareness as to how it will pan out. I now surrender knowing and trusting that whatever my Godself has planned for me is just fine, because I love myself as my Godself beyond words.

I surrender knowing that as a small branch off the whole, the least I can do is be the best my father wants me to be in my experience. I do this by surrendering and trusting. It is my complete honour and priveledge to be here under any circumstances and whatever is in my experience is just fine.

Now surrender just is, there is nothing but that. There will never be anything but that, there can not be.

Peace and love.

[moonrambler]

If there is no free will not at any level, and every single thing is scripted, then you don't have free will whether to surrender or not. And whether you surrender quickly or not makes no difference. It's all scripted.

[nicbrahms]

Originally Posted by moonrambler

If there is no free will not at any level, and every single thing is scripted, then you don't have free will whether to surrender or not. And whether you surrender quickly or not makes no difference. It's all scripted.

Everything we do is scripted, I.e. All my life, including times of surrender, fighting, arguing etc.

My point is that surrender is not done for any reason but for the realisation that you in this limited awareness are not initiating any changes.

Look at the bigger picture so to speak. In that moonrambler decided on 3d existence here on earth, her greater self decided on each facet of the experience, Moonrambler then came here and agreed before hand that there would be no knowledge of the agreements before coming here. Moonrambler then continues life in the knowledge that is present from moment to moment. Every tiny element inc times of spiritual growth, surrender, resistance etc.


It does appear as though you have free will from this perspective here that most of us have, however, when you expand your mind you start to realise the greater part of you is implementing everything and you are the facet that experiences it.

Its hard to explain. It is you just not you that is here in this tiny awareness.

After considering how infinite we all are, why on earth would any element of choice be put into this tiny awareness when the infinite part of us can make the experience so much more in infinite ways.

Considering time only exists in our awareness, then of course, our expanded self knows everything we are gonna do, or think, or feel or desire before we do. Hence the ideas, thoughts, events etc all are fed to us from the infinite.

Hence free wil is a debate point only.

I know what I am saying, very difficult to put into words.

Peace

[nicbrahms]

Let me put it this way.

There is a infinite entity we call God, source, consciousness etc.

This entity is all that is, this entity is whole, in that all of itself is one.

So if this entity decides to send infinite bits of itself which are still part and of the whole into experiences here, how could it not know what each and every part of itself is doing at any given time, esp considering each and every thing of all that is, is it.

It is timeless and of time, it knows everything. The only way it could surprise itself in the way of free will would be to disconnect itself from itself completely.

It does not, however, it does the next best thing and gives its tiny awarenesses the illusion of freewill and it makes us forget everything before we get here. This obviously provides the experience for the tiny awarenesses, however the entity is all knowing all seeing.

Free will is a gift of an illusion that we are provided with. Some people may not see it as a gift.

Its like they say God loves us so much he even allows us to think we are not loved.

I dunno, no matter how I put it, words fail to get my point accross.

Peace and love.

[Solipsist]

Originally Posted by nicbrahms

I dunno, no matter how I put it, words fail to get my point accross.

I've known this to be true in my own case, Nic, which is why I've somewhat given up trying to get my point across, and either just answer questions as best I can, or just letting people come to understand for themselves.

I know where you're coming from, though, that's for certain.

Enjoy being Love and Peace.

[nicbrahms]

Originally Posted by Solipsist

I've known this to be true in my own case, Nic, which is why I've somewhat given up trying to get my point across, and either just answer questions as best I can, or just letting people come to understand for themselves.

I know where you're coming from, though, that's for certain.

Enjoy being Love and Peace.

Thank you my dear, it good to know I'm not rambling shite, cause I think I often ramble shite, but good shite.

Bless you and your eternal wisdom.

Love as always.

[moonrambler]

The only thing is, if there is no free will on any level, then I cannot choose to surrender, because it's all scripted. Although I know you also cannot choose whether or not you're going to write these comments either. You have to do it, because it's scripted, even though it's futile because nobody has the capability of making a decision to surrender. Some people will surrender, some will debate, some will click off without even thinking about it. But it's all scripted and nobody can stop or change their actions. Is that the way you see it?

[nicbrahms]

Originally Posted by moonrambler

The only thing is, if there is no free will on any level, then I cannot choose to surrender, because it's all scripted. Although I know you also cannot choose whether or not you're going to write these comments either. You have to do it, because it's scripted, even though it's futile because nobody has the capability of making a decision to surrender. Some people will surrender, some will debate, some will click off without even thinking about it. But it's all scripted and nobody can stop or change their actions. Is that the way you see it?

Oh no you are still making a decision from this standpoint, so yes, I can still make decisions to do whatever, however, God already knows what I am gonna do. Also myself as expanded already knows what my experience is, every little detail.

What I am saying is that the correct decision in the overal scheme of things, when all is said and done is that there is but one recourse and that is surrender.

So from this persective here it appears I am making decisions, just as i look out and see a tree and think it exists, even though intellectually I know it does not. So because the illusion of free will is here, I think I am and can malke decisions, which I can cause thats how the game is played. However, now i know that everything I am gonna do is already laid out by me before my advent here.

So until I become the me that laid out all of the experience I am still making decisons from this standpoint of limited awareness.

Know what I mean? Its relative I guess.

[nicbrahms]

And yes Moonrambler, thats exactly it, it doesn't matter what you think you are doing, whatever you do, think, say, act, change is already planned for by your bigger self.

We are experiencing ourselves without knowledge of our true selves. However, ourselves still has complete authority over everything. It can be no other way for God is omnipotent.

However, this bit of God that you are and that I am thinks this is all there is. Now we are learning and knowing better.

So yes make decisions, they are part of the illusion, the game etc. However, there is a power in you that knows it all before you do. Which way you will turn, where you will go, what you will have for lunch etc. Decisons are an illusion as is free will.

We are the puppets of our own design.

[Melchior]

Originally Posted by nicbrahms

There is a infinite entity we call God, source, consciousness etc.

This entity is all that is, this entity is whole, in that all of itself is one.

So if this entity decides to send infinite bits of itself which are still part and of the whole into experiences here, how could it not know what each and every part of itself is doing at any given time, esp considering each and every thing of all that is, is it.

"Know" in what way? This infinite entity might not be conscious as we are, or even an expanded version of it, especially considering it does not have free will either. It wouldn't have the ability to "decide", but rather the infinite entity would strictly follow to the full extent the rules governing this infinite entity, and anything that was possible by these rules, was reality. You may be interested in the various deterministic interpretations of the world sprung out of the study of QM.

[nicbrahms]

Originally Posted by Melchior

"Know" in what way? This infinite entity might not be conscious as we are, or even an expanded version of it, especially considering it does not have free will either. It wouldn't have the ability to "decide", but rather the infinite entity would strictly follow to the full extent the rules governing this infinite entity, and anything that was possible by these rules, was reality. You may be interested in the various deterministic interpretations of the world sprung out of the study of QM.

Hello lovely Melchoir, and how are you my friend?

I am talking I guess for the sake of putting my thoughts down lest I forget, as the shifts in myself are fast and furious and I don't wish to lose the gist of them.

Peace and nice to hear from you.

[SethWilliams]

Hello All,

Im aware that everyone is just following there script. But i still feel so angry at some people for doing what they do. I feel so tired right now and is difficult to follow the process.

Phase 2 is hard.

Help?

Love Seth

[nicbrahms]

Originally Posted by SethWilliams

Hello All,

Im aware that everyone is just following there script. But i still feel so angry at some people for doing what they do. I feel so tired right now and is difficult to follow the process.

Phase 2 is hard.

Help?

Love Seth

So you know what to do, just give it up.

I know how hard it is, esp when there are outcomes that you don't want to face, things you don't wanna go through, feelings you don't want to experience.

But its like Jesus said to God, 'I don't want to go through this, but thy will be done.'

The quicker we just give up and surrender and allow whatever will be to be the better we will all be in our evolution and our peace.

Remember this, God will have his way, no matter what any of us does, God will have his way. This is such a short blink of an eye this experience, and God knows that as we are all one, as we are God that the infinite of us is in cahoots with it all. It is only this miniscule part that objects, rallies against and fights against the will of God, thinking we know better, and yet even that is all part of the game.

However, its all part of the game, the experience.

God will have it how God wants it. I for one, am happy with this.

Its so perfectly orchestrated it makes me sick. Kidding.

[Melchior]

Originally Posted by nicbrahms

Hello lovely Melchoir, and how are you my friend?

I'm doing well, hopefully looking at a productive day ahead of me.

I am talking I guess for the sake of putting my thoughts down lest I forget, as the shifts in myself are fast and furious and I don't wish to lose the gist of them.

Sounds good, I'll be glad to hear about them when it's more convenient for you. In the meantime, take care.

[SethWilliams]

Originally Posted by nicbrahms

So you know what to do, just give it up.

I know how hard it is, esp when there are outcomes that you don't want to face, things you don't wanna go through, feelings you don't want to experience.

But its like Jesus said to God, 'I don't want to go through this, but thy will be done.'

The quicker we just give up and surrender and allow whatever will be to be the better we will all be in our evolution and our peace.

Remember this, God will have his way, no matter what any of us does, God will have his way. This is such a short blink of an eye this experience, and God knows that as we are all one, as we are God that the infinite of us is in cahoots with it all. It is only this miniscule part that objects, rallies against and fights against the will of God, thinking we know better, and yet even that is all part of the game.

However, its all part of the game, the experience.

God will have it how God wants it. I for one, am happy with this.

Its so perfectly orchestrated it makes me sick. Kidding.

Your right nic. Let go.

Thank you,

Love Seth

[wstein]

Imagine that you are standing between two mirrors facing each other. When you look into one you see an endless number of reflections of yourself.

Now imagine that one mirror is bowed inward, the other bowed outward. Now as you look into one mirror, you see endlessly smaller reflections of self. In the other mirror, you see ever larger reflections.

Now imagine the mirrors are also distorted like carnival mirrors. Now when you look in one mirror you see ever harder to recognize tiny creatures. In the other you see ever larger hideous creatures. If you look closer, you imagine that you are surrounded by endless more and less power beings. One might say universes full of them.

Then step from between the mirrors. Suddenly they are all gone except you. Now it's easy to recognize that there was only one being, yourself. No insignificant life forms, no powerful hideous creatures, only you.

Which reflection is the larger one? They are all fundamentally the same size regardless of how large they appear. Each is equally you and equally powerful. If any of them has free will then all of them do.
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Do not confuse pre-knowledge or a timeless perspective with free will.

Pre-knowledge: just because someone knows you so well that they can predict what you will do, does not mean that you have no choice about it. It just means they are familiar with how your free will expresses itself.

A timeless perspective: From a timeless perspective one already knows what you, a time limited being, has done (even if you do not). This does not mean it was predetermined for you. It only means that you have already done what you are going to do which includes exercising your free will along the way.

[Wehey]

So basically you are saying that if our expanded self has chosen to experience poverty on this life then that is ultimately what we will experience and we have no power or influence over this!??

[nicbrahms]

Originally Posted by Wehey

So basically you are saying that if our expanded self has chosen to experience poverty on this life then that is ultimately what we will experience and we have no power or influence over this!??

Expanded self explores themes, poverty is one possible effect of a theme. Poverty in itself is not a theme.

The themes are more to do with your beliefs, how you approach life, for instance pessimist versus optimist. Very ingrained things.

I knew what the themes were originally that each of us is exploring but have forgotten them.

So you can play the game anyway you want, explore your theme in a myriad different ways, being rich, being poor etc.

Certainly don't wish anyone to think that you are stuck with poverty, you are not, you can effectively do anything in exploration of your theme.

Peace

[butterflyeffect]

So can I manifest a modelling career? I have been told my spirit guides will allow me to do so but do not reccomend it.

Honestly, I really want a modelling career and I know exactly how I would want it to play out but I have no idea how I can possibly have it from where I am standing now.

I have read a few of your threads and you are amazing at manifesting Nic. And so generous.

Can you help me manifest my modelling career? Or do I have to surrender first? I'm confused.

[nicbrahms]

Originally Posted by butterflyeffect

So can I manifest a modelling career? I have been told my spirit guides will allow me to do so but do not reccomend it.

Honestly, I really want a modelling career and I know exactly how I would want it to play out but I have no idea how I can possibly have it from where I am standing now.

I have read a few of your threads and you are amazing at manifesting Nic. And so generous.

Can you help me manifest my modelling career? Or do I have to surrender first? I'm confused.

There are no guides, there is only you.

You can do anything you want, but you gotta let go and not worry about the how of it. Intend it, visualise it and then surrender it.

Hope this helps