If we create our own reality - what is the point of prayer?

[jacare]

Since we are consciousness that through our particular neural makeup go out and create our own reality, what role does a higher power play?

Does the higher power simply create us, and then turn us loose on the universe, and we then go out and create our own reality unassisted?

If that is so, doesn't that make all of the great religions pointless?

[Kishka]

The 'we' in this reality is an egoic avatar, created for the purpose of experience BY our higher Self. Your ego is not your higher Self. I view it almost like a split personality. I think this is why we all tend to 'talk to ourselves'. Prayer is nothing but talking to your higher Self about whatever your would like. Hope that makes sense.

[Diandra25]

people usually pray in this way:

please God/Creation Source/whatever you call - give me health or love or good job or ,,,and ,,,,,

But the thing is.....while you´re doing that,you´re showing to the matrix/universe that you dont have those things,and so you´re showing the lack.

you will always have lack while praying that way.which for me,it is not the way pray is done the way it !"sould".

since i read conversations with God that i understood that praying is simply a conversation to our Higher Self,like Kisha said....so you can instead do this:

i thank you for all tha ti have,i thank you for the signs and synchs that you´ve been sending me in order to see that im the Creator,as i am One with the Source.

things like that is what i usually do when im "praying". so im not doing anything contrary to this knowingness that we are the Creators,the Genie in the bottle.

Religion i see it like being just a word,it is something created by Men to give them a sense of holyness in something to believe in.

i stopped from being catholic for example because nowadays religions,the majority of them are more interested to oblige than to simply show that we are all Free,and not sinnersjust because we live by ourselves intuition and heart+s voice.

[Greek Dog]

If we create our own reality then we have no need for prayer.

The thought that we create our own reality is in conflict with God.
If you believe in God then you may believe that we direct our own reality.
Either way - who creates us. God or ???

[cylon]

Originally Posted by jacare

Since we are consciousness that through our particular neural makeup go out and create our own reality, what role does a higher power play?

Does the higher power simply create us, and then turn us loose on the universe, and we then go out and create our own reality unassisted?

If that is so, doesn't that make all of the great religions pointless?

It's not the neural makeup. Consciousness is real, but everything else is an illusion (a very effective, convincing illusion) created BY consciousness--including the illusion that your brain is involved in creation. Your brain is just as illusory as you or I are.

Just as illusory as religion. There is nothing that is NOT consciousness. Which means you can't be "turned away" from it and set loose. You are always the "all", even when you aren't necessarily cognizant of that fact.

And since you are consciousness, that means there is nothing that is not YOU (big you, not ego you). And since there is nothing that is not you, that means every illusion (like the invention of your religion) in your life is also YOU... or you could say "created" BY you.

So the point of religion is really what you meant for it to be when you created it--even though of course your ego (little you) has no memory of creating religion. But your BIG YOU, does.

Finding out what the point of religion is, and why it doesn't make sense, to me, is part of the fun. You're asking the question for a reason and you'll find the answer too, at the perfect time.

[Wax Frog]

There's no conflict for me - if I leave aside all the baggage attached to the word "God", for me it just becomes one of many possible labels for whatever my Source happens to be. If my Higher Self is that Source, then my HS = God...

I don't pray anymore, haven't for years, but I do see it as no less legitimate a tool than any other. Works fine for my Mom, who asks for intercession by Saints and manifests plenty (roses, missing objects)...

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by jacare

Since we are consciousness that through our particular neural makeup go out and create our own reality, what role does a higher power play?

Does the higher power simply create us, and then turn us loose on the universe, and we then go out and create our own reality unassisted?

If that is so, doesn't that make all of the great religions pointless?

"You" don't really exist.

You are just one piece of consciousness that's temporarily believing that it is a unique, self-standing piece of consciousness.

It isn't. It's just like a drop of water in the ocean - indivisible from the rest of the ocean.

A prayer to a higher power is one drop of water talking to a sea.

A prayer to the hightes power is one drop of water talking to all the oceans.

But the drop of water is ultimately part of the sea, part of the ocean.

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Many of the Greatly Puzzling Metaphysical Questions can be understood, if only we grasp the amorphousness and impermanence of "you" and "I".

[MacFly]

Originally Posted by jacare

Since we are consciousness that through our particular neural makeup go out and create our own reality, what role does a higher power play?

Does the higher power simply create us, and then turn us loose on the universe, and we then go out and create our own reality unassisted?

If that is so, doesn't that make all of the great religions pointless?

you're here where you are. you know what you know. if you think you don't know something, there is maybe a reason to that. or you may know that, it's just the thinking mind covers it.

don't think that you are some microwave without the manual.

[MidasGirl]

Originally Posted by jacare

Since we are consciousness that through our particular neural makeup go out and create our own reality, what role does a higher power play?

Does the higher power simply create us, and then turn us loose on the universe, and we then go out and create our own reality unassisted?

If that is so, doesn't that make all of the great religions pointless?

I think it's a misconception that prayer is about God. Prayer is about the person praying. Just like positive self talk, it just helps anchor your mind in a positive mindset. Prayer is one of the most obvious tools of LOA. Like Diandra suggested, the reason most prayer is never answered is cuz people pray from a place of desperation and lack, therefore, manifesting more lack. That's why many people who don't even bother to pray seem to have more success than many of those that pray.

Also, conviction and faith play a huge role in whether prayer is "answered" or not. The person praying already has access to what they are asking the creator for, prayer just helps align them with the energy of the creator/universe/God. Honestly I think God doesn't give a bleep if we pray or not. If God did, those who pray the most would always have their prayers answered, as opposed to those who pray with the most conviction.

[Federer]

Originally Posted by MidasGirl

I think it's a misconception that prayer is about God. Prayer is about the person praying. Just like positive self talk, it just helps anchor your mind in a positive mindset. Prayer is one of the most obvious tools of LOA. Like Diandra suggested, the reason most prayer is never answered is cuz people pray from a place of desperation and lack, therefore, manifesting more lack. That's why many people who don't even bother to pray seem to have more success than many of those that pray.

Also, conviction and faith play a huge role in whether prayer is "answered" or not. The person praying already has access to what they are asking the creator for, prayer just helps align them with the energy of the creator/universe/God. Honestly I think God doesn't give a bleep if we pray or not. If God did, those who pray the most would always have their prayers answered, as opposed to those who pray with the most conviction.

I agree with this midas girl.

Other meaning of prayer is: Focus ourselves.

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by jacare

If that is so, doesn't that make all of the great religions pointless?

Well, Buddhism doesn't really have the concept of prayer.

Instead, it has the concept of meditation, whereby you go fix your own consciousness for yourself.

That is, no role for a higher power. You ARE the higher power.