Feeling What You're Intending

[A.K.Light]

When you're trying to manifest something into your life, you're supposed to FEEL like you've already got it. That sounds pretty logical to me. In order to be rich, you should first feel rich.

At what length do you go through to make sure you are completey feeling what you're trying to manifest? Please give me some ideas or specific examples that work for you. Here's why I'm asking.

Say that two people are trying to manifest a new car.

Person 1 puts a picture of that car on his desktop and in his living room. He thinks about the car all the time.

Person 2, on the other hand, has put more effort into making sure that he really feels like he already owns the car. He test drives it 3 times at different dealerships, talks to other people who own the same car, has pictures of it all over the place, wears a shirt with that car on it, ect...

So it seems that Person 2 would be more successful with his manifestation, right?

I don't think I've been going far enough to ensure that the feeling is strong enough.

-A.K.

[november]

So it seems that Person 2 would be more successful with his manifestation, right?

No.

Person 1 is using a direct mental approach. Person 2 is using a more physical approach. Niether is necessarily better than the other. The important thing is that one's approach is in line with one's core self. If you are a really mental person and you attempt a more physical manifestation approach, you may encounter more obstacles simply b/c being physical is not as natural for you.

In reality, both persons could stop doing anything and simply thank the Universe and the car could present itself in the same amount of time.

If you are trying to "trick" the Universe into providing you with your desires by doing x, y, z, you are only fooling yourself. Where is your heart? *That* is what you need to work on. The Universe doesn't require pictures and action, desire is enough.

Good luck with the car.

[Tripp444]

This is where I get into trouble. For instance, if I want to FEEL abundant, and FEEL like I can have all the things I want, sometimes I will get carried away at the mall.
I find it hard to allow myself to have the feelings, without acting on them.

[november]

I don't think there is anything wrong with acting on the feelings, as long as they are in alignment with your true self.

If, when you get carried away at the mall, you put yourself into debt that you can't handle, then you may want to look into that and see what's going on, b/c you are sabotaging yourself.

But, if there is no harm, there is no harm. The universe is abundant.

[A.K.Light]

Originally Posted by november

No.

Person 1 is using a direct mental approach. Person 2 is using a more physical approach. Niether is necessarily better than the other. The important thing is that one's approach is in line with one's core self. If you are a really mental person and you attempt a more physical manifestation approach, you may encounter more obstacles simply b/c being physical is not as natural for you.

In reality, both persons could stop doing anything and simply thank the Universe and the car could present itself in the same amount of time.

If you are trying to "trick" the Universe into providing you with your desires by doing x, y, z, you are only fooling yourself. Where is your heart? *That* is what you need to work on. The Universe doesn't require pictures and action, desire is enough.

Good luck with the car.

I was only trying to illustrate that Person 2 did more to FEEL like he owned his new car. (This can't be proven objectively, but for the purpose of this example, it shall be considered true. Don't worry about the specific approaches that the two people used.)

In no way have I thought of "tricking" the universe by performing a certain action. Again, everything is different for everybody. All I'm saying is that you should FEEL like you already have what you want. If you want a new car, driving that car is a great way to have that feeling. It makes you feel great. The emotion becomes more powerful. It's not a trick or a short cut. You can also visualize yourself driving the car. Look at pictures of the car. You can do lots of things. I'd say you've got to do whatever YOU'VE got to do in order to FEEL like you've got it. And I don't think I've been doing that. I need to get out and experience it more. Walk right up to and touch whatever it is that I don't have yet. (Or get as close to it as I can.)

The last thing I'd be trying to manifest right now is a car, haha! Thanks anyway.

[november]

(This can't be proven objectively, but for the purpose of this example, it shall be considered true. Don't worry about the specific approaches that the two people used.)

If the specific approaches were not to be concerned with, they have no point in the post. I understood that you spelled out the approaches in order to physically represent an emotional state. Something that's difficult to do, yet...I don't get the feeling I misunderstood. The different approaches were to serve as proof that one person felt the situation more strongly than the other (as proven by this statement: "I was only trying to illustrate that Person 2 did more to FEEL like he owned his new car.")

So, my statement stands. If you're in alignment with your core self, you'll be fine no matter what you do or don't do.

No one can help you FEEL anything more strongly. That is simply a choice you make (or don't) for yourself. And, there is no way to prove you're feeling anything. No matter what we've been socialized to believe.

If you want a new car, driving that car is a great way to have that feeling. It makes you feel great. The emotion becomes more powerful.

This might be true for lots of ppl, but it's in no way a fact. I think that is what you need to be aware of here. There is no way to prove you feel a certain way or a way to guarantee making your feelings stronger. You seem to believe otherwise, and if that works for you, go with it. But, it is not an indisputable fact. It is not true. It is not a guarantee.

So, it all comes down to what you truly believe. Perhaps if you don't feel you've been doing whatever you need to do in order to FEEL like you've got whatever you're aiming for, you should go out and experience it more. And, perhaps you could help yourself just as much by sitting and figuring out what is keeping you from feeling the way you want to feel without doing all of that. I'd venture to guess that you have some mental/emotional blockage.

I think some ppl try to step over their minds by doing the physical and that's fine. I believe, also, that the things we step over will continually show up in our paths until we deal with them.

Again...good luck!

[A.K.Light]

November, thanks for the replies. Please don't think I'm trying to argue.

Originally Posted by november

This might be true for lots of ppl, but it's in no way a fact. I think that is what you need to be aware of here. There is no way to prove you feel a certain way or a way to guarantee making your feelings stronger. You seem to believe otherwise, and if that works for you, go with it. But, it is not an indisputable fact. It is not true. It is not a guarantee.

Who said it was a fact? You're defending things you don't need to. The post is about whatever you do to become a vibrational match for your desires. (You, subjectively...what works for YOU.) I think you're making it too complicated.

Originally Posted by november

So, it all comes down to what you truly believe. Perhaps if you don't feel you've been doing whatever you need to do in order to FEEL like you've got whatever you're aiming for, you should go out and experience it more. And, perhaps you could help yourself just as much by sitting and figuring out what is keeping you from feeling the way you want to feel without doing all of that. I'd venture to guess that you have some mental/emotional blockage.

LOL, thanks for guessing that I have mental or emotional blockage. I'm a very happy person so if there's any blockage, it's sure not hurting anything.

You said before that desire was all that you need. Everything I've read about the LOA says there's three steps.

1. Figure out what you want.
2. Become a vibrational match for it.
3. Allow it.

It seems (although I'd never assume) that you are suggesting step 2 comes first, as if you have to be a perfect vibrational match for anything by the time you have the desire for it.

The way I see it is that you have a desire, any desire, first. Then, you'll have to do some work with your mind and emotions to become a match for that desire. (To feel really good about it or however people describe it.)

Desire is not enough if you're not aligned with what you want. You're not suggesting only having desires that you're already aligned with, are you?

[Ati]

Interesting isn't it, how some of what seems to be the same is actually different for different people and the other way around, probably based on people's experiences, outlook, ?genetics, current situations etc.?

That's one thing I find so fascinating. I can read a line of posts like these and with every one, find things which make me say "Yup I can see that!"

[Lil Chris]

Well said Ati... It is most fascinating isn't it...

[Love]

I remember reading about FEELing too in the book, "Excuse me, your life is waiting." The author really stresses that thinking alone will not help you manifest your desires. So what I'm hearing on the board is that this is wrong, and that people have manifested their intentions without focusing so much on the feeling part of it?

[november]

So it seems that Person 2 would be more successful with his manifestation, right?

I don't think I've been going far enough to ensure that the feeling is strong enough.

This is where I originally got the impression that you're looking for definitions, guarantees, and facts.

This:

1. Figure out what you want.
2. Become a vibrational match for it.
3. Allow it.

and, This:

The way I see it is that you have a desire, any desire, first. Then, you'll have to do some work with your mind and emotions to become a match for that desire.

Don't line up.

Figuring out what you want is not equal to desire. I might argue that step 2 is the desire step, if I believed in the importance of becoming a vibrational match for something. (I've read about the LOA. I understand it, but I certainly don't agree with the way everyone who believes in it explains it.)

I might also argue that step 3 is the desire step. So, we could say that a modified version of the LOA would go like this:
1. Figure out what you want.
2. Desire it.

It seems (although I'd never assume) that you are suggesting step 2 comes first, as if you have to be a perfect vibrational match for anything by the time you have the desire for it.

This is interesting to me. I actually believe that we are already "vibrational matches" for everything (altho, I would not have used that term prior to this thread) and this is just a fact. We are naturally in alignment with the universe and what throws us off are our own issues, beliefs, actions, etc. So, I would suggest that this isn't something we have to do, but something that already is and we just have to not screw ourselves over. Thanks for giving me language for that belief!

Desire is not enough if you're not aligned with what you want.

Exactly. That's why I said, "So, it all comes down to what you truly believe." , "If you're in alignment with your core self, you'll be fine no matter what you do or don't do.", and "The important thing is that one's approach is in line with one's core self."

If your desire is not in alignment with what you want, then there are mental/emotional issues (blockages) that need to be worked out. That has nothing to do with your overall happiness.

You're not suggesting only having desires that you're already aligned with, are you?

If you understood what I wrote above, you'd realize that I don't think this is even necessary.

However, to answer your question in the context in which it was asked, I'll say: You should be aligned with your desires if you hope to manifest them. The LOA will tell you that whatever you focus your energy on is what you will get, whether it's what you tell yourself you actually want or not. You can certainly manifest things you don't cognitively desire.

You can alter your alignment at any time. I would suggest that if you truly desire something, you will align yourself with it and it will manifest. If you feel that you are not aligned with what you have told yourself you desire, I would ask how in the world you would expect it to manifest?

Hopefully I actually answered your question. And, I don't mind a good argument.

[november]

Originally Posted by Love

I remember reading about FEELing too in the book, "Excuse me, your life is waiting." The author really stresses that thinking alone will not help you manifest your desires. So what I'm hearing on the board is that this is wrong, and that people have manifested their intentions without focusing so much on the feeling part of it?

I don't know what others have written, but desire is a feeling.

[dorothy hanna]

Doesn't it say somewhere in the Bible, "Faith w/o works is dead". This could be Faith/intention w/o works/actions = nothing much.

[RandomJohn]

To me, there are many mechanisms of how intention works. One is metaphysical - you send something out to the Universe and it comes back. The other is guidance, or a way to spend "effortless effort" to get what you want, kind of like the champion who practices every day.

Why limit yourself to one means of delivery?

[Wreck]

Originally Posted by november

You should be aligned with your desires if you hope to manifest them. The LOA will tell you that whatever you focus your energy on is what you will get, whether it's what you tell yourself you actually want or not. You can certainly manifest things you don't cognitively desire.

Man is there a lot of truth in that one.

Originally Posted by november

If your desire is not in alignment with what you want

Care to offer how you define desire and want and the difference between the two?

[Dharma]

A.K. Light,
The feeling you are looking for, which in itself is a manifestation, it that of "Yes!" Like when your football team wins the Superbowl. It's a feeling in the belly area; a movement in the emotional body.

[RandomJohn]

Originally Posted by Wreck

Care to offer how you define desire and want and the difference between the two?

The way I see it is this, and I take an example from the latest HunaTrainer podcast. Let's say that you grew up poor, and some days you had dinner and some you didn't. Let's say that on those days that you didn't, your family was irritable, and on the days that you were full, your family was loving.

Now, as an adult, if you want to lose weight, then you consciously and cognitively want to lose weight. However, your subconscious wants you to remain full out of fear that people around you will be irritable. So I see this:

• desire: to lose weight
• want: to remain full

(At least in the terminology that seems to have developed in this thread.)

Perhaps different terms will be more useful.

[trekr5]

There was a partcular occasion when I debated two courses of action and I asked the Universe to send me a sign to point me in the right direction. I asked with strong passion, desire and the absolute faith that my question would be answered.

What happened? I opened my computer to look at a particular newsfeed. The very first article at the top answered my question in a very loud and clear fashion.It was almost as if the article was written just for me. What does that say? I think even you don't articulate a desire constantly, as long as you believe in that desire/intention then the Universe will bring it to you. And even if you have a crisis of faith, if you ask, you will receive an answer. It has happened to me many times

[Richful]

In the system I use it is subconciousness that does the work. Our personal subconciousness is connected to the universal subconcousness, thus when you imbed a thought in "yours" it manifests "out there". Do imbed that thought or idea you need to use suggestion, be subtle, be suave.

Subconciousness doesn't like to be hit head on. You walk up to it side on, turn your head slightly and offhandedly remark "I've got a new car", "Yeah, oh cool, I'll see to it." is the reply. Suggestion can be done in various ways, affirmations, visualisation, whatever... But the emotion or feeling about the suggestion is very, very important. If you walk up to subconciousness with fear in your heart and ask for something it'll sense it. I'd almost say it's like training an animal, they know how you're feeling and they'll respond accordingly.

This is A method, I'd like to hear your thoughts on it...

[Lil Chris]

Hey Richful
This makes alot of sense to me. I seem to have the best luck when I use the phrase "Hey, I would like to (have, do or be) such and such...." (I say this to myself, in my head) but it's more like a statement that I would, like, say to a friend, and with the same tone and feeling (like , hey this would be cool). Then I try to forget about it in my concious mind, trying not to let my concious mind harp on the request and go about my business (this can be difficult if it is something i really want or need), I'm always delighted and excited when my request is fulfilled. That feeling is truely incredable, like WOW this is the coolest thing ever....

[Lychee]

Originally Posted by Lil Chris

Hey Richful
This makes alot of sense to me. I seem to have the best luck when I use the phrase "Hey, I would like to (have, do or be) such and such...." (I say this to myself, in my head) but it's more like a statement that I would, like, say to a friend, and with the same tone and feeling (like , hey this would be cool). Then I try to forget about it in my concious mind, trying not to let my concious mind harp on the request and go about my business (this can be difficult if it is something i really want or need), I'm always delighted and excited when my request is fulfilled. That feeling is truely incredable, like WOW this is the coolest thing ever....

I also find when I forget about something it shows up when I most need it. I think if you're having trouble with getting your mind off your desire, reading some affirmations can help.