Rockchick thread and.. "nothing works for me"!

[Piercetheveil]

You see your statement almost implies you haven't

"...Almost implies" means...it doesn't. So you are accurate lol.

And everyone seems to have that same uncle. He seems to provide whatever example of proof that needs proving. Odd huh?

[Rockchick26]

Originally Posted by Lauxa

Ah Rockchick, you have drawn me in again, I love thinking about your problems, why is it so much fun to think about other people's problems?

So I googled "phone camera concert pictures" and wanted to share some results:

No offense to your choice in good concert pics, but I didn't see anything special about those at all. They looked like anyone could have taken them with any camera (although they looked better than mine, so I'm assuming they had iPhones or something equivalent). Here's a few examples of what I think are good concert pictures:

http://www.performanceimpressions.co...011%20copy.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3051/...63d3515ccd.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2325/...47e8c47d_o.jpg
^That one actually took my breath away, it's perfect!!

http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/users1...5337922176.jpg

Wow these are amazing, I am so envious of these photographers. Notice they're all professionals too, all the pictures are copyrighted by their business name.

[Rockchick26]

Originally Posted by themaster

It's interesting cause we could almost say by this post.. your living the perfect life.. your just defining "money" (unique challenges ) as the only problem.. but then again I remember then you have fear in there too.. fear of other people, fear of your family etc.

Yes I have defined other "problems", but like I said, once I have the money, then I will find out what other obstacles I have and if they are too big to overcome. One obstacle at a time, I can't handle them all at once! Money is just the most obvious one and what I think is really the biggest one. If I had enough money, it wouldn't even matter if my family didn't want me moving away because I could afford to come back and visit every few weeks if I wanted to, it would be like I wasn't even gone!

I think if you had 60k like me.. you wouldn't leave home (too much fear )

But you DO leave home, aren't you always gone, to different places?

I don't know if I've told you rockchick.. but I still have fear problems.. (we all do even my teacher does, I believe) I'm afraid to spend the money.. and become one of those 'rags to riches' stories only in reverse..

Yeah that wouldn't be any fun, but if you achieved it once then you would already know how you can achieve it again, and you'd know it was possible.

I have been evicted from a house I helped buy.. and that was one force situation I created.. I have also lost my business's work place after tons of investment.. so I have had a lot of force situations on my plate for change.. and I think you'll do quite fine if you have to adapt and change based on a "you got no choice" scenario

I think I will too, I've always adapted fine every other time. I used to be afraid to live alone, and now that I've done it I don't want it any other way. Not only am I not afraid, but I would do almost anything I could do stay living alone. I might end up back at home, in which case the things I currently am unwilling to do would suddenly become better options.

[Rockchick26]

Originally Posted by aabbcc

Maybe he didn't care. Maybe he was just happy to be doing something he loved.

That's true...but I wouldn't love taking pictures of just anything, only things I want. It sucks being a picky perfectionist!

[moonrambler]

Originally Posted by Rockchick26

That's true...but I wouldn't love taking pictures of just anything, only things I want. It sucks being a picky perfectionist!

I give up. I wish you the best.

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by Rockchick26

I am taking on all of it at once, that's why I feel so overwhelmed. I am literally in the middle of trying about 20 different things.

LOL ... Come on, we already discussed that. And we've already established that you have been very busy doing almost nothing in your life.

The only way you could be said to be "in the middle of trying about 20 different things" is if you count activities such as surfing the Internet; doing your laundry; buying groceries; cooking a meal for yourself to eat; watching a TV show; taking a shower; checking Facebook, Twitter etc.

But of course, you actually DO.

I have no problems being constructive, yesterday I did all this stuff:

2 loads of laundry
Caught up on my tv shows
Finished an ebook
Finished a hardcover book
Worked out for an hour and a half (Malibu Pilates, yoga, and Curves)
Job hunted for about 2 hours
Made a really good 100% organic stir fry completely from scratch
Balanced my checkbook
Wrote out a few bills
Caught up on emails, internet stuff (hadn't been on much in the last week and a half so I was behind)
Started another book (got about 1/3 of the way through)
Contacted a Bed & Breakfast about possible job

3:45-Got up, made bed, checked phone messages, gathered clothes
4:00-took shower
4:30-Made something to eat
4:45-Got online, caught up in here and on emails, Twitter, Facebook, also researched those books on Amazon and ordered one, found a free ebook of another one.
5:30-Mom called from work wanting to know the unemployment website so I went to it and told her the address and talked to her until her break was done.
6:00-Got an email including another ebook about natural health cures so I started reading it
7:00-Friend called, planned to get together in a bit
7:15-Ate, made list for Target (where we were going)
7:30-Got ready
7:50-Went to friend's house, Target, watched movie at friend's house
11:30-Got home, put away stuff I bought
11:45-Got online, got into a conversation with friend on Twitter about tattooes, showed her pictures of the ones I want next. Also caught up on more emails.
1:30-Made something to eat (homemade chicken strips)
2:00-Made list of all the ebooks I'm reading and wrote down what page i'm on for each of them
2:10-Jumped on trampoline a little bit
2:20-Got into conversation on Twitter about my tattooes I want and ended up finding more pictures I want to add to them, tried to use photo editing program to create the picture but got frustrated, couldn't get it to work
3:30-Catching up on emails and in here now.

[Rockchick26]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

LOL ... Come on, we already discussed that. And we've already established that you have been very busy doing almost nothing in your life.

I don't know how you can look at all those things I listed and say that's almost nothing. Nothing would look like this:

Got up and went straight to the computer (no shower)
Surfed aimlessly for 10 hours
Ordered Pizza (delivery)
Watched tv for 6 hours (whatever happened to be on)
Fell asleep on the couch in the middle of a boring tv show

Do you see the difference between that and my schedule?

The only way you could be said to be "in the middle of trying about 20 different things" is if you count activities such as surfing the Internet; doing your laundry; buying groceries; cooking a meal for yourself to eat; watching a TV show; taking a shower; checking Facebook, Twitter etc.

But of course, you actually DO.

You are glossing right over all the parts you don't want to see. You're only focusing on necessary chores and every day things everyone does.

[themaster]

Originally Posted by Rockchick26

Yes I have defined other "problems", but like I said, once I have the money, then I will find out what other obstacles I have and if they are too big to overcome. One obstacle at a time, I can't handle them all at once! Money is just the most obvious one and what I think is really the biggest one. If I had enough money, it wouldn't even matter if my family didn't want me moving away because I could afford to come back and visit every few weeks if I wanted to, it would be like I wasn't even gone!

You should work on manifestation as that can provide other avenues to get things done besides money.. I would just ask every day for various things you care about and don't.. and watch your reality bring you some of the things you ask for in a surprise mode

I know, I know you've tried or haven't gotten much of what you wanted.. but the key to manifesting is to be playful, creative, open, easy going.. at ease..

(check these words above they are very powerful vibrations)

Originally Posted by Rockchick26

But you DO leave home, aren't you always gone, to different places?

Yep, I travel but always with a car and in a certain style I'm accustomed too.. I have yet to take that giant leap and be a backpack type.. (which is kind of required for any travel outside of the USA from my stand point)

So one could say there are some fear issues there.. sorta..

I honestly, thought I would be in Europe or Philippines right about now.. but I'm not and sorta, sorta want to go to Philippines.. but the downer is all the "new age" predictions.. say the South Pacific is gonna burn

Originally Posted by Rockchick26

Yeah that wouldn't be any fun, but if you achieved it once then you would already know how you can achieve it again, and you'd know it was possible.

Yes, well it's not a achievement.. it's a inheritance.. so it comes with that baggage of the stories of the sons and daughters that squandered there useless/made of us money

Yah, know it's weird ALG's a millionaire.. I can't imagine what problems he has..??? to hang out here rather than relax w/ millions..??

I've often wondered if I had 1 million in the bank over 60k if I'd also be too afraid to spend it

BTW.. he's not talking to me (I stole his lunch money )

Originally Posted by Rockchick26

I think I will too, I've always adapted fine every other time. I used to be afraid to live alone, and now that I've done it I don't want it any other way. Not only am I not afraid, but I would do almost anything I could do stay living alone. I might end up back at home, in which case the things I currently am unwilling to do would suddenly become better options.

Yep, we all learn how to adapt.. I'm pretty sure you got the skills to do whatever you want.. right now your just doing what's comfortable and workable for the moment.. and that's a fine way to be.. if you ever want to make improvements on it.. you'll choose your time and place and method..

If you want to hear my travel tales..

I left from mn today.. (that was your last chance ) I took out the 35W North sign yesterday with my car.. sshhh.. don't tell anyone

I arrived in des moines like noon or so (left bloomington at like 8 a.m. or so) I wondered around town looking for a "meatball marinara sub" (couldn't find a cousins) anyway.. I went past a weird tent/show thing.. so I double back my car.. took a lot of weird art pictures and found a not the greatest meatball sub in the vendor stands..

Then I drove to kansas city.. ate at *noodles* and hung out parked in front of the Imac store 'idling' talking to you and finally I drove over to a "la quinta" snuck into there pool (actually I asked the lady for the code and pretended like I had a room there) and swam/showered/bathed in there heated pool/hot tub.. (warmest pool I can ever remember.. think it's cause it's fed from the hot tub..)

Twice I asked for guidance/directions and that was both for my "hot tub" and "meatball sub" so seems to be working.. (no I don't hear voices.. yet! )

And now I write to you.. so there's a awesome travel tale from this dave

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by Rockchick26

I don't know how you can look at all those things I listed and say that's almost nothing.

As I said, we have a difference in opinion as to the meaning of "constructive". Personally, looking at this list of yours:

I have no problems being constructive, yesterday I did all this stuff:

1. 2 loads of laundry
2. Caught up on my tv shows
3. Finished an ebook
4. Finished a hardcover book
5. Worked out for an hour and a half (Malibu Pilates, yoga, and Curves)
6. Job hunted for about 2 hours
7. Made a really good 100% organic stir fry completely from scratch
8. Balanced my checkbook
9. Wrote out a few bills
10. Caught up on emails, internet stuff (hadn't been on much in the last week and a half so I was behind)
11. Started another book (got about 1/3 of the way through)
12. Contacted a Bed & Breakfast about possible job

I would say that:

- Items 3, 4 and 11 are the same thing.
- Items 8 and 9 are pretty much the same sort of thing too.
- Items 6 and 11 are the same thing.
- Items 2 and 10 are the same sort of thing.

So your list I would present as follows:

1. 2 loads of laundry
2. Watched TV and surfed the Internet
3. Read some books
4. Worked out for an hour and a half (Malibu Pilates, yoga, and Curves)
5. Did some job-hunting
6. Made a really good 100% organic stir fry completely from scratch
7. Paid some bills

Since the theme is "constructive activity", I would strike out Item 2 from that list. As for Item 3, it can be constructive for other people but we already know what your particular problem with books is. For you, reading has degenerated into an unhealthy activity.

So I would further reduce your list as follows:

1. 2 loads of laundry
2. Worked out for an hour and a half (Malibu Pilates, yoga, and Curves)
3. Did some job-hunting
4. Made a really good 100% organic stir fry completely from scratch
5. Paid some bills

From the above list, I personally would regard "doing laundry" and "paying some bills" as not terribly significant and not particularly worth mentioning. They are just things that people do in the ordinary mundane course of living. So your list shrinks further:

1. Worked out for an hour and a half (Malibu Pilates, yoga, and Curves)
2. Did some job-hunting
3. Made a really good 100% organic stir fry

I'm ambivalent about whether Item No. 3 above would qualify as a constructive activity - cooking a meal is, again, another activity that people just do in the normal course of mundane living. But I left it in, since earlier there were some issues discussed about your nutrition, and you seem to be cooking something healthy.

So yesterday, you did three constructive things:

1. Exercised for 90 minutes
2. Did some job-hunting
3. Cooked a healthy meal

Well, congratulations to you. You exercised, you looked for a job, you cooked a healthy meal.

But honestly I can't see how you can claim to be in the middle of trying 20 different things and feeling overwhelmed.

But it IS better than your previous schedule:

3:45-Got up, made bed, checked phone messages, gathered clothes
4:00-took shower
4:30-Made something to eat
4:45-Got online, caught up in here and on emails, Twitter, Facebook, also researched those books on Amazon and ordered one, found a free ebook of another one.
5:30-Mom called from work wanting to know the unemployment website so I went to it and told her the address and talked to her until her break was done.
6:00-Got an email including another ebook about natural health cures so I started reading it
7:00-Friend called, planned to get together in a bit
7:15-Ate, made list for Target (where we were going)
7:30-Got ready
7:50-Went to friend's house, Target, watched movie at friend's house
11:30-Got home, put away stuff I bought
11:45-Got online, got into a conversation with friend on Twitter about tattooes, showed her pictures of the ones I want next. Also caught up on more emails.
1:30-Made something to eat (homemade chicken strips)
2:00-Made list of all the ebooks I'm reading and wrote down what page i'm on for each of them
2:10-Jumped on trampoline a little bit
2:20-Got into conversation on Twitter about my tattooes I want and ended up finding more pictures I want to add to them, tried to use photo editing program to create the picture but got frustrated, couldn't get it to work
3:30-Catching up on emails and in here now.

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by themaster

I fully support rockchick and believe she is being helped.. but the idea is giving her more time to reflect on herself via other methods.. and it is my opinion that this will help more.. then more advice she can "shoot down"

in other words the best advice is what you have offered, not anyone else's?

and there is an irony in you saying RC's life is perfect as is, that she doesn't have to have a job even though she wishes she would land one - yet you still feel the need to make an adjustment some how, just as many seem to do by posting.

I think RC likes posting and it's part of her good side, she may need to watch that what is fun isn't impending being prepared for what she is facing, because she is due for some major change weather she likes it or not or is really prepared or not.

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by themaster

I think if you had 60k like me.. you wouldn't leave home (too much fear )

is this a statement of limitation? what did you say about that earlier?

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by Rockchick26

I actually like this one! In the realm of abstract art

you know you could... oh, no I will not do that. I'll not give you more "you could do this" ideas right now.

[themaster]

Originally Posted by wolfgang

in other words the best advice is what you have offered, not anyone else's?

Yes, exactly I do have a superiority complex

Originally Posted by wolfgang

and there is an irony in you saying RC's life is perfect as is, that she doesn't have to have a job even though she wishes she would land one

There is perfection in the design of this planet is there not..?? in the bowel movements, in the evolution, in the apples so big and good enough for us to harvest..

You can be perfect and be homeless, jobless, a rich mama's boy.. it don't matter.. a statement of perfection is to look at the world from eye's other than those of EGO and lack..

90% wait no we just got another one.. 89% of the humans on this planet look at our planet and what we’re doing with lack.. ohh, there's disease.. ohh, there's killings in the street.. ohh, the environment is awful.. that is a lack viewpoint.. I offer the idea that I see "no lack" period.. it's not a viewpoint everyone is accustom to yah, know? (which is why you seem to question it )

I am saying in essence if rockchick never changes.. she's still perfect!

Originally Posted by wolfgang

yet you still feel the need to make an adjustment some how, just as many seem to do by posting.

This thread has been ongoing for quite a while and I pop in and out when I feel like it.. I offer some advice and support for rockchick.. there really have been quite a few "negative/statements of limitation" directed her way.. even now ALG is kinda still at it..

I only offer the advice for everyone talking to her that I think what's best is not too.. (but I only subjugate that as my opinion.. that doesn't make it right or wrong..) only rockchick knows what will work for her..

Originally Posted by wolfgang

I think RC likes posting and it's part of her good side, she may need to watch that what is fun isn't impending being prepared for what she is facing, because she is due for some major change weather she likes it or not or is really prepared or not.

I think you and I agree about here..

Originally Posted by wolfgang

is this a statement of limitation? what did you say about that earlier?

I think you misinterpret..

I shared personal information with rockchick.. that I'm afraid.. then I suggested that if she had 60k.. she'd also be afraid it was a bit of a joke and a bit of a truth all into one..

(and she might vary well be in her apartment this very minute.. saying 60k is not enough money and she needs a job and her family is.. etc. etc.)

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by Rockchick26

I've been reading these threads in here for 2 years! I always am filled with awe and happiness every time I read a post about someone having good luck with LOA. And then my faith meter goes up a little. But then it goes back down after it fails to work for me.

Not true at all. The LOA is working perfectly for you.

Your life right now is a perfect reflection of your thoughts and beliefs.

[nicbrahms]

Originally Posted by Greek Dog

I have read a few posts on this thread early on but I didn't quite get it and had nothing to contribute so I left it alone. As it grew and grew and grew I thought perhaps I didn't read it carefully and decided to give it another try. Same results.

but today I saw Nicbrahms had posted and I read anything she writes so I came again and started at the top of this last page of posts and before I got halfway through I realized that you have done an awesome job Rockchick.

You have overcome your shyness. You can take on any one here who posts to you. You have something to say that is well thought out to each and every post. but most of all you have got a huge crowd of people responding to you, cajoling you, encouraging you.

That is no small feat. Check around this forum. You will see that there are people reaching out to ask for help for attention and getting little in return. But YOU have received so much. Think of this and take it forward with you. You clearly are more powerful than you know.

I would love to have the charm you possess in order to receive so much generousity and attention. Who could help but flourish with such a draw as yours. Do not squander it. It is a true gift and many of us would find our lives transformed with it. Turn on your light and see this gift for what it is. It's value is great and you have overlooked it so far.

Best to you.

Excellent and in a nut shell my friend. I think she is amazing too, for responding as she does.

Thank you for reading my posts, I also return the favour.

[ellie]

I know the perfect job for you miss rock chick...I have figured it out....





Debating Team

that or politics, as I'm not really sure if there is such a job as a "full-time debator"

[Lauxa]

Okay, Rockchick, I will agree that if you want to take really awesome concert photos you need expensive gear. But... that isn't the ONLY thing you will need.

For most concerts, you will need permission from the band and maybe a press pass. For this, you will need to (1) get over your problems with talking to people and (2) have a photography portfolio.

For instance, that guy at ishootconcerts.com has a Visual Communications degree. I will guarantee you he did not get that degree by ONLY shooting rock concerts. No, he shot a wide range of subjects and learned about photography and composition for several years to become qualified to shoot from the press pit.

And even once you have a decent portfolio, you then need to make friends with members of local bands, offer to shoot their concerts or maybe some promo pics for free. Promo pics are probably going to be stills, which could be done with any camera, but your artistic sense has to come into it. That is how you will build your rock portfolio and gain credibility to shoot bigger name bands.

The same guy had advice for shooting from the crowd, which he sometimes has to do when there is no press pit. His number one piece of advice was to make friends with the other people standing nearby by making small talk.

SO, even if you had a nice camera, these other things would limit you from pursuing your dream as a concert photographer. And some of these are things you could work on now! But all you see is that you don't have a nice camera so you can't do anything. The Universe will NOT respond to you when you are doing nothing.

[moonrambler]

Originally Posted by themaster

EGO and lack..

what we’re doing with lack..

I see "no lack" period..

"negative/statements of limitation"

Just to mention, it's coming to a point where I know every time I look at one of your posts, it's going to be about ego, lack and limitation. And quite possibly "invalidation."

I don't get why you're becoming more and more obsessed with ego, lack, limitation and invalidation. Nearly every time you post, you point out something in somebody else's post that you judge as being about lack, limitation or invalidation.

This is making it difficult to read what you write because I don't come here to think about lack, limitation and invalidation. I like to think about abundance, possibility and potential.

[Angela]

Originally Posted by moonrambler

Just to mention, it's coming to a point where I know every time I look at one of your posts, it's going to be about ego, lack and limitation. And quite possibly "invalidation."

It's funny (ha-ha) how people powerfully generate exactly the thing they most don't want for themselves and for the world.

[moonrambler]

Originally Posted by Angela

It's funny (ha-ha) how people powerfully generate exactly the thing they most don't want for themselves and for the world.

See, I stopped back in to the forum for a moment and went to the Facebook thread, and at the very top is themaster asking, "Why are zanriel's post always so negative.. so limiting?"

It's going viral, I tell you!

[themaster]

Originally Posted by moonrambler

Just to mention, it's coming to a point where I know every time I look at one of your posts, it's going to be about ego, lack and limitation. And quite possibly "invalidation."

I don't get why you're becoming more and more obsessed with ego, lack, limitation and invalidation. Nearly every time you post, you point out something in somebody else's post that you judge as being about lack, limitation or invalidation.

This is making it difficult to read what you write because I don't come here to think about lack, limitation and invalidation. I like to think about abundance, possibility and potential.

Feel free to ignore.. my style is my style.. though it's changing lately..

I think it's those that read my post and only see those words.. that are setting themselves up for limitation.. are you trying to say that normally you read my posts and feel uplifted..?? but now all you see is "lack"

Isn't it interesting that if you have a lack perspective and someone talks about lack.. all you see is lack.. (in essence I'm talking about the idea of reading a news story per say.. and it says the environments crumbling and the worlds going to hell.. ohh but good news there's jobs in the environment sector.. it's a choice to focus in on the article what we see)

I mean where was the lack when I said..?

The best thing about rockchick is her positive attitude?

Or maybe what your saying is.. you like reading my posts.. but because I focus/say the same things.. it's not fun for you to read anymore..

Is that what you’re saying?

What is it you’re really saying?

Because by law of attraction that which you complain about.. you get more of!

I mean there’s a light teasing way to approach this.. which is usually angela’s way of saying it.. but this feels a little more than that

Originally Posted by moonrambler

This is making it difficult to read what you write because I don't come here to think about lack, limitation and invalidation. I like to think about abundance, possibility and potential.

If that was really true.. you'd ignore that which doesn't help.. and focus on that which does.. 1 line out of 9-13 sentences is all you wish to focus on.. in the post your pointing out..

Nothing helps..?? in those other sentences..?? see.. I don't believe you.. complaining doesn't get you anything.. it doesn't serve you.. it doesn't CORRECT reality.. it doesn't change things.. it's just complaining and ohh yah.. a feeling of

LACK

[James81]

Originally Posted by moonrambler

Just to mention, it's coming to a point where I know every time I look at one of your posts, it's going to be about ego, lack and limitation. And quite possibly "invalidation."

I don't get why you're becoming more and more obsessed with ego, lack, limitation and invalidation. Nearly every time you post, you point out something in somebody else's post that you judge as being about lack, limitation or invalidation.

This is making it difficult to read what you write because I don't come here to think about lack, limitation and invalidation. I like to think about abundance, possibility and potential.

Perhaps he's on the brink of a breakthrough that involves those things?

I know that I harped on beliefs, values, and identity for a good three years before I circled in on my own root issue.

[moonrambler]

Well, it's kind of funny, I tried to psychoanalyze myself the one time I put somebody on ignore, because I kept hearing that it might be a good idea to look at why what somebody says bugs us enough to them on ignore. After a lot of internal review, I came to the realization that I just found the continuous harping about EGO annoying

Ummm . . . maybe it's because I have become more and more aware over the last two years where my own statements of limitation are, and now when one bursts forth in my speech or in my writing, it's like a big flashing red light goes off. I see it in my friends, too, the things people say . . . statements of lack . . . it's just so weird.

There's also an aspect that when I was dealing with a failing business and losing all my money, that in the I/M forum one common piece of advice was that I was looking at life from a perspective of lack -- but I wasn't. That's created a sense of annoyance too, because I experienced it myself, that people kept trying to fit a certain type of hat onto me because of their beliefs, even though it did not fit.

So when I come to a thread like this, and I see countless statements of possibility and potential, and you keep showing up going on about "lack," "limitation," and so on, it's, well.

Isn't it interesting that if you have a lack perspective and someone talks about lack.. all you see is lack..

Yeah, when someone talks about lack, what I see is lack, and you talk about lack ALL the time. It's like how rockchick's favorite word is "but" and her second favorite word is "can't." Your favorite words have become "lack" and "limitation" and "limiting" and "invalidation."

Hmmmm . . . this has suddenly become a lot less annoying and a lot more interesting

[Angela]

Originally Posted by moonrambler

Hmmmm . . . this has suddenly become a lot less annoying and a lot more interesting

I think it's similar to what's happening with Rockchick, and perfect that it comes up in this thread (maybe it'll be an illustration for her that will make sense?)

What I mean is: Rockchick's threads, I think a lot of us, including Rockchick herself, see them serve as a really vivid and excellent mirror for the rest of us to see how we are yeah, butting ourselves and otherwise resisting being fully alive and vital -- vivid and excellent because of the almost cartoon-like nature of it, know what I mean? The rock-like unconscious commitment, unwavering and unsubtle, makes it a really, really clear, unambiguous reflecting pool. It's so much easier to see stuff in other people than it is to see it in ourselves; isn't that great? I mean, it's great if we remember to use it, and that our upset, if upset is there, is 100% us and 0% them.

Themaster is similar, in the almost cartoon-like nature of his focus on other people's statement of limitation, etc. He's a really excellent mirror, of which the value of looking into has nothing (or very little) to do with the content of what he's saying, and everything (or mostly) to do with the annoyance that it triggers (just like Rockchick or anyone else, including me! that you are annoyed by) -- that is, the meaning you make about yourself about it. I suspect I'm almost cartoon-like in my mirror-ness, too, for a lot of people ("I wish she'd just shut the ♥♥♥♥♥ up about 100% responsibility and "...that means that I'm ___") -- mostly because I'm seeing cartoon-like mirrorness! D'oh!

The good news is that the learning you get from that annoyance can give you access to disconnecting it not just from that particular person, but also from the persistent, unconsciously habitual way you get annoyed by anyone, anytime who triggers that old resistance for you.

And having disconnected it, in the future when you see that old thing that used to annoy you, now you can engage without upset (annoyance is a form of upset), or your eye can just glide over what used to annoy you, not generating resistance, but instead, just something that's no longer useful for you - you already got the learnings.

And of course, it's ME I'm really talking too. Dagnabit! (My old Rockchick and themaster annoyance has long since been disconnected, but there's some resistance niggling at me for that would benefit me if I were to disconnect it, and I can feel myself resisting the resistance! -- wish me luck, or feed me back, wouldja please?)

[themaster]

Originally Posted by moonrambler

Well, it's kind of funny, I tried to psychoanalyze myself the one time I put somebody on ignore, because I kept hearing that it might be a good idea to look at why what somebody says bugs us enough to them on ignore. After a lot of internal review, I came to the realization that I just found the continuous harping about EGO annoying

Ummm . . . maybe it's because I have become more and more aware over the last two years where my own statements of limitation are, and now when one bursts forth in my speech or in my writing, it's like a big flashing red light goes off. I see it in my friends, too, the things people say . . . statements of lack . . . it's just so weird.

There's also an aspect that when I was dealing with a failing business and losing all my money, that in the I/M forum one common piece of advice was that I was looking at life from a perspective of lack -- but I wasn't. That's created a sense of annoyance too, because I experienced it myself, that people kept trying to fit a certain type of hat onto me because of their beliefs, even though it did not fit.

So when I come to a thread like this, and I see countless statements of possibility and potential, and you keep showing up going on about "lack," "limitation," and so on, it's, well.

Wow, this is cool.. you seem to have indentified the trigger that set you "off" when your around me.. congratulations! (do you remember our conversations prior.. where you didn't know what it was?)

Surprise party!

A very happy unbirthday to you..

To be honest I think you put my posts too much into a category.. it's often when people put me in a "category"/label that I often surprise them.. (which is why I wrote the positive stuff above)

I've actually told people on this forum.. I care about them.. like rockchick.. crazy isn't that? (re-read post #2 if you don't believe me)

Truth is I just have a big heart.. no one seems to notice Cause I have such a crazy.. "limitation" calling EGO

(you see even writing these words brought out my "emotional self" got me teary)

Originally Posted by moonrambler

Yeah, when someone talks about lack, what I see is lack, and you talk about lack ALL the time. It's like how rockchick's favorite word is "but" and her second favorite word is "can't." Your favorite words have become "lack" and "limitation" and "limiting" and "invalidation."

If those were my favorite words.. I'd be in every thread, everywhere! All day!

I choose my battles as I've said before.. I talk in the threads I want to talk in.. and I could use different words.. but what's awesome about lack, limitation, limiting, invalidation.. is there NEUTRAL words..

I'm not out to call them "bad" even though it's been implied many times.. that's what I'm doing.. I use them neutrally.. true enough you can slant them negatively.. but that's up to the reader to do so.. I try and use them NEUTRALLY to the best of my ability..

I just heard a interesting channeled message not but a hour ago.. that talked about how us in the united states are invested in "Duality" and that is the case is it not..??? because that is what morality is..?? it's right/wrong or duality (I'm starting to understand this word a bit better since I heard that message)

The message from our Higher Selves is simple! Get out of duality.. stat! Why..?? cause there going to bring it! And I mean bring it hard..

I've said this before.. but imagine if you can..

That the earth is a giant video game.. made out of love..

And we all decided to give up love and experience the opposite of love.. darkness, disconnection etc.

But now we've all decided the game is over.. and many of us our going to from this state of "darkness" "disconnection" "opposite of love" to love..??

You follow me?

Now you’re the game designer????

How you going to do that..?? How you going to get that done?

Have a look outside your window.. watch the news.. observe the people around you.. and ask yourself.. how are we going to make them feel love again.. in a passive upgrade way?

How are we going to take them from being a ANT to a human again?

Anyway.. I don't know how I got off on my non-limitation rant.. I'm going to end here with.. your limited!


And Angela said it all about how to use this thread in a positive way.. I agree with her.. 190% (very good articulation of what were doing.. it reminded me of my threads with rei too..)

I have to say on record this is some of the best conversations and ideas that have come out of this thread thus far.. there was a lot of good stuff I gave rockchick.. but this is also very good stuff

On a re-think of a rethink.. I also want to go on record and say I think this thread has helped rockchick a lot.. and here's what my brain said.. "we have all adapted to understand and be rockchick's friend" and my guess is that rockchick can't talk about these issues with her real friends.. and as such our caring, considerate converation has helped rockchick grow in many ways.. I don't think she's as a afraid or upset about her life as when she started.. so there's another one of my new observations

[missbhaven]

Originally Posted by Rockchick26

Yes I value my friends because they are in my real life; they aren't names on a screen.

I ask the people in here because you are all enlightened and smart and who better to get advice from?

I have never said this advice is not good because it's free. I have applied the knowledge that I think will work and haven't tried yet.

My statement was saying that: right now on this board the advice you receive from names on a screen that aren't a part of your "REAL" life is FREE. Though you may flatter us by calling us enlightened, you do not consider it (our advice or us-since our advice comes from the experiences we've had) valuable. I did not state that advice that was given is good nor not, the word I used to describe it was WORTHY.
WORTHY- having adequate or great merit, character, or value.
These are things that YOU determine. We can have 2 different sets of value and worth.

So from your first sentence I get the feeling that names on a screen aren't valuable because they aren't a part of your real life. To top it off the advice is also given at no price other than your time to read it and respond - FREE. In another response to me, you state that we are different from your friends but do you take our advice differently? Are you really trying to be like the people here? Because the one thing MANY have told you is to try a 30 day challenge of NO EXCUSES. If you don't consider the books you have exchanged MONEY (a thing you are so concerned about and give high value) valuable enough to be considered worthy, why for one second should anyone here believe that you consider the FREE advice given from "names on a screen" worthy? How much VALUE do you place on the advice given to you here, honestly? Do you even know your own standards of value and worth? And the bigger question, if you don't consider us "names on a screen" worthy to take and USE (use being the most important here because that's what you ultimately want to do, use it and it works) our advice, WHY ARE YOU HERE?

My post that got deleted was me laughing at your excuse that in the end you are scared to do all the things you want to do because you have to explain to the public and especially your dad why you do the things you do.
YET! You have no issues explaining to the public (via the most public means available today on an international message board on the World Wide Web) all of your reasons why you do (or as some people would say do not by providing an excuse as to why you can't, but to me, it's STILL explaining) what you do. I say this because this is now over 30 pages and I know this wasn't the first topic of this sort. To hear you use that excuse killed me with laughter for a good 20 minutes. To me it was like having a person standing next to me chest deep in the ocean with waves splashing their face, only to say; "I can't go in the kiddie pool, I'm scared of water!"

If this is REALLY big fear of your congrats! You are half way there! You have forced yourself into a position to face your fears. Are you going to consciously choose to tell your dad or are you going to let the universe force you into that position also?

See my problem with you is... After 30 pages I don't know which way you believe, which makes me feel you don't know what you believe.
This is why I asked you to do my lil exercise and listen to yourself internally when you state with enthusiasm that you and your life are perfect.
If you are perfect you won't feel the need to change, and if you do (with the belief I feel you have about IM) it should come easily and incorporate into your life with little static. The friends you would need, the lessons everything will come naturally, if you are working in sync with both your conscious and subconscious. If your life is perfect, it shouldn't feel like a fight unless you want/need it to feel like a fight or to resolve conflict, a part of perfection is the process of learning to take control of your body and listen to your inputs so you can extract your own creativity from it. Should you choose not to act consciously, your body via subconscious will force you into the same position anyway. This is the state I feel you are in now.


So, my conclusion is you don't want any advice ANYMORE. Why? Because you could have taken and applied any color in the rainbow of advice that was given. You could have looked at what others were doing with their limited resources and with your passion decided to 1 up them, instead you use your creativity to think of why you can't not why or HOW you CAN.

I prayed, meditated and did everything under the sun to undo my creative block. And when it came back, it came in an avenue I didn't like (because I asked for creativity alone). But was I going to return my manifestation because I did not properly define it. NO, It was my proof! I took it to mean it was probably better suited to me than what I felt was asking for, or it could be a step toward what I was asking for. WHO KNOWS?? I GOT SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT I WAS ASKING FOR! **this is said happily with joy**
Someone said with IM when you turn down opportunities/manifestation here, they happen in another reality. So let’s say you are trying to manifest a camera and the universe lends you your sister-in-law's, you say I wanted my own camera not to borrow someone's. The manifestation passes to a reality where you take it, make and sell prints and buy your own camera. Now in this reality when you repeat the request, the universe sees it as you enjoy asking for a camera or simply looking for one, not actually having it, so you will keep on requesting it since the process is what you want (or enjoy) rather than the product. So I ask you how many opportunities/manifestations have you turned down in this thread alone?

Are you enjoying the process of living out your fears as you explain to the public consisting of thousands of "enlightened" "names on a screens" and a ton more of lurkers, why you are doing the things you do? Do you consciously or subconsciously feel that explaining yourself to a bunch of "enlightened" "names on a screen" is valuable or worthy of your time and effort spent in your REAL life (even though we are virtual, the time you spend on us is still your "REAL life" time)? Is this process more valuable/worthy than applying any advice that was offered to you to instigate the change you requested how long ago?

[moonrambler]

Originally Posted by Angela

(My old Rockchick and themaster annoyance has long since been disconnected, but there's some resistance niggling at me for that would benefit me if I were to disconnect it, and I can feel myself resisting the resistance! -- wish me luck, or feed me back, wouldja please?)

Y'know what, it's also interesting that I don't find Rockchick one bit annoying. Aggravating, yeah, in a bang-one's-head-against-the-wall kind of way, but also quite mesmerizing. That incredible skill to shoot down every suggestion with laser-beam precision is fascinating.

[aabbcc]

Originally Posted by moonrambler

Y'know what, it's also interesting that I don't find Rockchick one bit annoying. Aggravating, yeah, in a bang-one's-head-against-the-wall kind of way, but also quite mesmerizing. That incredible skill to shoot down every suggestion with laser-beam precision is fascinating.

I agree.

[James81]

Originally Posted by Angela

I think it's similar to what's happening with Rockchick, and perfect that it comes up in this thread (maybe it'll be an illustration for her that will make sense?)

What I mean is: Rockchick's threads, I think a lot of us, including Rockchick herself, see them serve as a really vivid and excellent mirror for the rest of us to see how we are yeah, butting ourselves and otherwise resisting being fully alive and vital -- vivid and excellent because of the almost cartoon-like nature of it, know what I mean? The rock-like unconscious commitment, unwavering and unsubtle, makes it a really, really clear, unambiguous reflecting pool. It's so much easier to see stuff in other people than it is to see it in ourselves; isn't that great? I mean, it's great if we remember to use it, and that our upset, if upset is there, is 100% us and 0% them.

Themaster is similar, in the almost cartoon-like nature of his focus on other people's statement of limitation, etc. He's a really excellent mirror, of which the value of looking into has nothing (or very little) to do with the content of what he's saying, and everything (or mostly) to do with the annoyance that it triggers (just like Rockchick or anyone else, including me! that you are annoyed by) -- that is, the meaning you make about yourself about it. I suspect I'm almost cartoon-like in my mirror-ness, too, for a lot of people ("I wish she'd just shut the ♥♥♥♥♥ up about 100% responsibility and "...that means that I'm ___") -- mostly because I'm seeing cartoon-like mirrorness! D'oh!

The good news is that the learning you get from that annoyance can give you access to disconnecting it not just from that particular person, but also from the persistent, unconsciously habitual way you get annoyed by anyone, anytime who triggers that old resistance for you.

And having disconnected it, in the future when you see that old thing that used to annoy you, now you can engage without upset (annoyance is a form of upset), or your eye can just glide over what used to annoy you, not generating resistance, but instead, just something that's no longer useful for you - you already got the learnings.

And of course, it's ME I'm really talking too. Dagnabit! (My old Rockchick and themaster annoyance has long since been disconnected, but there's some resistance niggling at me for that would benefit me if I were to disconnect it, and I can feel myself resisting the resistance! -- wish me luck, or feed me back, wouldja please?)

Heh, well this thread hasn't bothered me in the slightest. I'm actually amused by all the people running in here to try and give her advice when she's so clearly adament about doing things her own way.

I suppose if I chose to engage her and reply to her posts, I would probably feel that annoyance as well. And that's because I have a way that I think she SHOULD do things, and her disregarding that might feel like she's disregarding ME.

[carenkh]

I did an exercise years ago, which you're probably read in several of your books, and I found it VERY helpful, and helped me to shift things. I had to DO it, though, not just read about it.

I replaced "should, have to, must, need to" with "choose"; and I replaced "can't, won't" with "choose NOT". It was HUGE for me. The night of the workshop where I learned this (and I had heard 'don't use "should"' before, but didn't get it 'til this workshop), I left a few minutes before the end, to go to work. Even after doing these exercises, I still said, "I have to go to work, so I need to leave early." She said, "Umm... I choose to..." So I said, "Oh! I'm choosing to go to work, so I'm choosing to leave early." And as soon as I said it, I didn't know if it was true! I had to think about it a minute, because I wanted to be honest with myself. "Do I choose to go to work now?" "Do I really choose to leave early?" The truth was - I did! I chose to be on time for work, because that was important to my boss, which meant I was choosing to leave the workshop early.

It's a fun exercise. Don't let it lead to analysis paralysis, though! Just listen for your truth.

The folks on the escalator (and that's NOT more complicated than your situation! Really, it's not - it's about taking. one. step. I know you can't see your step - they can't, either, in their stuckness) would say, "I'm choosing to stay on here." And - that may be true! They may like standing there, and that's a valid choice. Or, they may realize: "Oh, wait - I don't choose to stay here! How do I leave?" and take that step.

I know that I can't control what you post here, but I'll ask you: If you tried this, and it didn't work for you for some reason, don't tell me about it. If you CAN'T (ahem) do it for some reason, don't tell me why. Just ignore my post, please. Thanks!