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Old 05-01-2010, 09:11 AM   #421 (permalink)
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Pretty soon, you'll be forced to.
I know this. That's why I'm trying to plan what I want to do, that's the whole reason for all of this planning!

For some reason it won't let me quote all those things you mentioned, but I wanted to comment on a few of them.

-I would be moving to my mom's house (if I don't get a job), I'll be able to use her computer/internet. That option is never not going to be there, so I don't have to worry about being homeless.

-I am not worried about not having a vehicle because I have 2 of them and my brother works on cars and if by some series of misfortunes I am unable to pay him to work on them, he wouldn't not do it, he would probably just make me babysit in exchange for his work or something.

-My industry has already outsourced to other countries, that's why I got laid off in the first place. They told us specifically most of the products we made were now being made in Mexico.

-I really don't think employers are going to think someone out of work in this economy is reason to think they are a bad employee. I know people who were unemployed longer than me and they found jobs again. Most of the people I got laid off with haven't found anything yet. I am still employed at my on-call job, it isn't like I don't work AT ALL, and I use my old supervisor as a reference because he told me he would gladly put in a good word for me. I am not worried.

-I already did work in a job I hated and I know the possibility is still there that I might end up having to do that, but I don't see what my "attitude" or "how I am" is going to make a difference with that. The same jobs will still be out there and I still won't like them, no matter what I do or don't do.

-Welfare and this country's deficit are not things I can control, and I don't know how anything I do can make a difference.

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When any three or more of the above events actually occur in your life, you'll very much feel that you're finally being forced to do something. The question is - at that time, will you have the resources, the capability, the mental discipline, to do it?
I don't think most of those things would happen but for the sake of this conversation, if they do, yes I will do what I have to do because I don't want to live with my mom.

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If right now, you can't even act constructively for one day, what makes you think you can do it, under circumstances which are much, much more difficult?
I CAN act constructively if I want to and/or have to. When I have less time to work with, it's used more wisely. When you have all the time in a day, it changes.

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You think it's funny. You think it's one big joke - coming to a forum, asking people for dozens or hundreds of suggestions, and then writing long, insensible replies to explain why none of them can work. But when your life really comes crumbling down in ruins around your ears, you won't think it's funny any more.
Why do you think I think this is funny? Why would I put myself through mental anguish if I was doing this for a joke? And "insensible" replies are subjective.
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Old 05-01-2010, 09:13 AM   #422 (permalink)
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This absolutely sounds like alcohol/drug addicts who won't give up their vice of choice when they start having a few problems... or after they've been having problems for a while.... or even when their problems are becoming glaringly obvious to those around them.

Instead they wait till they find themselves sitting in a police cell after a drunk driving crash or lying in a hospital bed with cirrhoris or emphesyma, or have lost their job/marriage/kids/friends/self-respect, and then they decide, "Okay, I've hit rock bottom, time I did something about my problem."

Is that what you want? Maybe you've always been 'like that', but you know you don't always HAVE to be, right?
You can't compare me to an alcoholic, I am not endangering my life or anyone elses.

And yes I know I don't have to wait until things get bad to act, I want to head this off so I DON'T end up having to move back home. That's why i'm starting to panic now because it's getting down to the wire.
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Old 05-01-2010, 09:22 AM   #423 (permalink)
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If you really wanted the things you said, you wouldn't be forced into action.
What do you have to say about that. Actually I don't want to hear it. There is no excuse. That's just the way it is ... simple.
I don't get why people are doubting that I really want these things. I don't sit and think about or talk about things I'm not interested in. Nobody does! And I never said I wouldn't do these things until I was forced to, I said I don't do these things because I don't have the money right now!

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You want what society, family, this that and the next tells you you want. You give everything under the sun your time but you can't even respect yourself to stop and truly define a simple BIG WANT that would drive you to change in ways you really want to be.
What?! I usually want the OPPOSITE of what society says you should want. And my family either doesn't know or doesn't support what I want, how can you say I want it because they are telling me to? This just makes no sense. I chose my own interests.

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I bet figgering out how to save that money for the vacation wasn't an easy task. Especially when it came to implementing and maintaining it soo you can actually go. But you still did it becuase it was something you really wanted. Soo you don't WANT anything you have told us you want.
I don't get how the fact that I went on a vacation 4 years ago means that I don't want anything I am saying I want now. It was EASY paying for that vacation, I had a full time job that paid good!

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I guess the rock in your name stands for rock bottom.
No it means I like rock music.

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BTW, I can still be mature and tell you "You suck". Why? Becuase when you are lying to yourself and me and everyone here... YOU DO SUCK.
How am I lying to everyone here?! I don't even know how to respond to this, why do people think I'm lying!? Did I miss something!?
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Pretty much. One day I just thought to myself (paraphrasing), "Ya know, I'm f*cking tired of reading all these books. They all say the same stuff! Blah blah blah! I could have spent this past hour jogging instead of reading the same stuff again."
I've never thought this, because I enjoy reading. I know I'm searching for things, but I do enjoy the reading process nevertheless.

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I don't read them anymore because I'm "looking for answers". I have the answers. I bet you do, too.
Yes I do, but I still like reading other people's take on it. I enjoy getting new information. I love reading about music even though I am not searching for any answers regarding music, I just like to read about it because it's my favorite thing. I enjoy reading about other things because I just feel like why would you want to stop learning?
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If you are having such a tough time finding work- you need to do something different. Either change your job search or move somewhere that has jobs.
I'm starting to be open to that option. More and more I wouldn't mind living away from here, not 1000 miles away but even 2 or 3 hours. That would give me some distance between me and my family but not so much that I couldn't visit them.

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You should be able to get assistance through the unemployment office about training for a new field or jobs that are available. I bet you could get free training as a nurses assistant, get a job, save some money, move to where you really want to be. Then get training to do what you really want to do with your life.
Well what I really want to do is not any of those kinds of jobs. My work counselor told me they wouldn't pay for any of the things I wanted to go to school for. It had to be in the list of jobs that are in demand. And I don't want to go to school for something I'm not interested in, could you imagine me in that situation? I would probably end up dropping out or going crazy.

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I had no way of knowing that taking a class on stuff I already knew would lead me to two jobs. But that is the way life often works, you volunteer ( at a library or something) make contacts, someone has a job lead or knows someone who has a job opening and one thing leads to another.

You still have to make that first step.
Yeah, I am aware that even volunteering can lead to a job. A lot of times it's who you know, not what you know. I just quit volunteering at the recording studio because it was 40 miles a day round trip and when you aren't working, you can't really be filling your gas tank twice a week. In the 3 or 4 months I did that, I got absolutely nowhere. It was just starting to not be worth it.

By the way, we drove through Madison on the way back from a trip once and I felt an immediate desire to live there! I don't know what it was, but everything was just so beautiful and awesome and it felt like home. I felt like I had either lived there in another life or that I was going to live there someday in this one. Very cool city!
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I woud say it's best to get away from your family too. They seem to have a strong hold on you, especially for a 37 year old.

You need to start living your life, you can give us all the excuses in the world, about why you need to stay close to your family, but I'm not buying it...I did the exact same thing with mine and realised it only fed my insecurities. You need to learn to detach. It's time to live your life, not anyone else's.
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Well what I really want to do is not any of those kinds of jobs. My work counselor told me they wouldn't pay for any of the things I wanted to go to school for. It had to be in the list of jobs that are in demand. And I don't want to go to school for something I'm not interested in, could you imagine me in that situation? I would probably end up dropping out or going crazy.
Because of your situation, you may have to consider training for a job you don't necessarily want to do. Just to get you by until you have money to study for what you really want.

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Yeah, I am aware that even volunteering can lead to a job. A lot of times it's who you know, not what you know. I just quit volunteering at the recording studio because it was 40 miles a day round trip and when you aren't working, you can't really be filling your gas tank twice a week. In the 3 or 4 months I did that, I got absolutely nowhere. It was just starting to not be worth it.
Then volunteer at a place where you think you might get hired. Easter Seals needs volunteers and they often lead to paying jobs. Not what you want to do - but then you don't have alot of options.

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By the way, we drove through Madison on the way back from a trip once and I felt an immediate desire to live there! I don't know what it was, but everything was just so beautiful and awesome and it felt like home. I felt like I had either lived there in another life or that I was going to live there someday in this one. Very cool city!
Exactly how I felt!
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I was laid off, so I'm getting unemployment money from the state.
And what does "the state" mean? You mean the state goes out and picks free money off the money tree and sends it to you?

It's okay to accept help when necessary, but don't be blind to where the money is actually coming from. You can see in this thread how the level of irritation escalated when you started going on about it's so great to get "free money" and how you don't want to do anything until you have to.
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I had to re-read this over a few times and it kinda loses me towards the end, are you saying I'M the one pretending that I want something? Just because I JUST YESTERDAY realized why I haven't been taking action doesn't mean i'm pretending to be interested in these things.
Yup. YOU are the one pretending -- you've been pretending to yourself for a long time.

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I don't get why people are doubting that I really want these things. I don't sit and think about or talk about things I'm not interested in. Nobody does! And I never said I wouldn't do these things until I was forced to, I said I don't do these things because I don't have the money right now!
It's because you say you want this and that, but your actions and inactions tell us that you want what you've got much, much MORE than what you say you want.

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...don't be blind to where the money is actually coming from. You can see in this thread how the level of irritation escalated when you started going on about it's so great to get "free money" and how you don't want to do anything until you have to.
QFT. It's as if you're saying, "Thanks for the free money, suckas! I'm gonna take and take from you until I'm FORCED to stop!"
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Hi, Rockchick.
You said for the most part you like your life the way it is, which is why it really hasn’t changed much. I think this is a very important step for you. I hope you continue in that vein of understanding why things in your life are the way they are. Ultimately you have to take complete responsibility for everything in your life if you want to use the LoA to consciously create. It’s a requirement. I think that if you do this, you will be much happier.

If I were you, I’d continue to do “workouts” with themaster and develop yourself spiritually rather than posting in here. I’m not ordering you around; I’m simply making a recommendation based on what I see has been going on in this thread. I’ve been reading it with a lot of interest but I can see it’s become quite frustrating and counter-productive for nearly everyone involved.
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I woud say it's best to get away from your family too. They seem to have a strong hold on you, especially for a 37 year old.

You need to start living your life, you can give us all the excuses in the world, about why you need to stay close to your family, but I'm not buying it...I did the exact same thing with mine and realised it only fed my insecurities. You need to learn to detach. It's time to live your life, not anyone else's.
Well honestly there are only 2 reasons. One is that my nephew is only 4 and he worships me and I feel awful when I can't see him for 2 weeks. I don't want him to not remember me or feel wierd around me because he doesn't see me very often. And the other reason is because my brother works on cars and when you only drive pieces of crap you kind of have to know people who will do do repairs for nothing. I guess this would change if I could afford a new vehicle, but until that happens I can't really afford to live anywhere far away from my brother.

Other than those two things, I'd LOVE the space.
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I read this this morning, and thought of you -

Mary Oliver: Have You Ever Tried to Enter the Long Black Branches?

Who can open the door who does not reach for the latch?
Who can travel the miles who does not put one foot
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And who will care, who will chide you if you wander away
from wherever you are, to look for your soul?
Quickly, then, get up, put on your coat, leave your desk!
This was a good poem! That line about "who will care" though, whoever wrote this poem must not have had family or friends

You know, I just thought...I think I could be happy staying in MN as long as I made enough money to go on vacations often. I mean even once a month or every other month would be good enough. I have come to realize I really don't want to be THAT far from my family and friends all the time. I think I really just need an RV and/or to make enough money to travel. Maybe I could live somewhere where the rent is really cheap and then just go on a vacation once a month. But what job would give me that much free time right away? (Ok I'm really trying to see a way to make THAT work but how do you get your job to give you more days off?)
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Because of your situation, you may have to consider training for a job you don't necessarily want to do. Just to get you by until you have money to study for what you really want.



Then volunteer at a place where you think you might get hired. Easter Seals needs volunteers and they often lead to paying jobs. Not what you want to do - but then you don't have alot of options.
Yes I'm aware that I might have to do something like this. It's just hard to make yourself do something you don't want to do. People call that childish and irresponsible, but there ARE other ways, there has to be. I just have wierd views about the world, and I don't think it should be necessary to make yourself unhappy on purpose.
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And what does "the state" mean? You mean the state goes out and picks free money off the money tree and sends it to you?

It's okay to accept help when necessary, but don't be blind to where the money is actually coming from. You can see in this thread how the level of irritation escalated when you started going on about it's so great to get "free money" and how you don't want to do anything until you have to.
I honestly have no idea where the state gets the money for this, right now they're borrowing it because they are in a deficit. I was never good with politics or money so it confuses me to think about that stuff. But it's there for people who can't find work, and that's me. I don't know why people are upset, I really think I missed something here. Are people mad because I'm HAPPY I'm getting this money? I am FAR from the only one on unemployment, it's higher now than it ever has been. Are you mad at everybody who is on it?
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Yup. YOU are the one pretending -- you've been pretending to yourself for a long time.



It's because you say you want this and that, but your actions and inactions tell us that you want what you've got much, much MORE than what you say you want.
Ok I think I understand what you guys THINK I'm doing. You think i'm pulling a fast one on everyone, and trying to get sympathy, and hoping nobody notices that I'm just making up all these interests to have something to complain about? That could not be further from the truth! If my actions and inactions go against what I say I want, I'm just as confused about that as anyone. I am not consciously or intentionally conniving anyone here, there are no ulterior motives. I am learning along with everyone else what is going on with me.

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QFT. It's as if you're saying, "Thanks for the free money, suckas! I'm gonna take and take from you until I'm FORCED to stop!"
But if I felt that way, I wouldn't be trying to find a job! That's the difference. I didn't mean I would not try for a job until I'm forced, I meant I don't have to go out of my way to do things that aren't entirely beneficial at this point in time. It's just like cleaning my apartment. I don't do it until I'm forced (like if somebody is coming over, or it gets really bad).
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Hi, Rockchick.
You said for the most part you like your life the way it is, which is why it really hasn’t changed much. I think this is a very important step for you. I hope you continue in that vein of understanding why things in your life are the way they are. Ultimately you have to take complete responsibility for everything in your life if you want to use the LoA to consciously create. It’s a requirement. I think that if you do this, you will be much happier.

If I were you, I’d continue to do “workouts” with themaster and develop yourself spiritually rather than posting in here. I’m not ordering you around; I’m simply making a recommendation based on what I see has been going on in this thread. I’ve been reading it with a lot of interest but I can see it’s become quite frustrating and counter-productive for nearly everyone involved.
Yes I just realized this a few days ago, that I really am living the kind of life I want (for the most part), with the exception of having enough money to explore my hobbies. But I DO like that I live on my own, and have no set schedule, for the most part. I like that I can plan my future, because planning is one of my favorite things to do. That's why I plan so much but never do because I'm a planner, an analyzer, an organizer. This is helping me a lot in figuring myself out so this is not wasted time, I don't think. I'm learning along with everyone else. That's why I don't like that people think i'm doing this on purpose and manipulating people into helping me. I DO need the help.

I know it's frustrating for some people but it must be necessary and as long as I'm continuing to learn and grow, I don't want to stop posting in here. Everyone else can stop if they want, if I have nothing to reply to then I'll find another way to learn. Actually I emailed that lady again because I hadn't heard back from her and this time she replied and I have an appointment on Wednesday for a bio-frequency analysis (energy healing). Most likely I'll be making some giant progressions soon!
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You're not. Stop kidding yourself.

Remember - you are already defeated by tomatoes and lettuce. Anyone who views grocery-shopping as an obstacle to their plans in life .... is basically the utter opposite of a planner. I might as well add - it also shows that you're not much of an analyser. Nor an organiser.

I really cannot imagine how you could consider yourself a planner, an analyser or an organiser. You have no plans, you are totally disorganised and you have a very poor understanding of what's happening around you.

How CAN you possibly imagine that you ARE a planner?

Earlier, someone actually wrote out a plan for you. A schedule for one day. What was your response? Something like this.

"Oh, what if a friend suddenly calls and I have to go over to his house to watch a movie? What if I suddenly remember that I need to go buy groceries? All this would disrupt my schedule and it wouldn't work? What if something happens, and I need to leave my house?"

Stop kidding yourself ..... Your "plan" is to do nothing, in case you get disrupted by anything. Might as well sit around the house your whole life, just in case a meteor strikes it, or an earthquakes comes along, so that you can then run out of your house.

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Ok I think I understand what you guys THINK I'm doing. You think i'm pulling a fast one on everyone
No, I think you're pulling a fast one on yourself. As I mentioned, you've been pretending to yourself for quite some time: pretending that you truly want some things (certain forms of success), but really wanting something else (sloth) much, much more.
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I honestly have no idea where the state gets the money for this, right now they're borrowing it because they are in a deficit. I was never good with politics or money so it confuses me to think about that stuff. But it's there for people who can't find work, and that's me. I don't know why people are upset, I really think I missed something here. Are people mad because I'm HAPPY I'm getting this money? I am FAR from the only one on unemployment, it's higher now than it ever has been. Are you mad at everybody who is on it?
The money comes from people's taxes. So effectively your fellow working citizens have been supporting you while you have been sleeping late, sitting on the internet most of the time, and reading an endless series of 'self-help' books that you take little or no action on.

You say you're looking for work, but people have given you dozens of suggestions for how to be more employable, and you always have an excuse for why you can't be bothered. Upthread, you said you have applied for about 70 or so jobs. Over 14 months of unemployment, by my math, that works out to a little over one a week. I'm not sure you're going to convince anyone that applying for one or two jobs a week constitutes full-time, serious job hunting.

People don't resent those who receive unemployment money while they truly can't find a job, but in your case, it's perfectly obvious that it's not that you can't, but just that you don't really want to. You've admitted as much. Nobody likes a freeloader, and that's what your refusal to take responsibility for your own life is.

So can you see why it annoys others when you gloat about how great it's been to be able to do what you want, when you want, for over a year, thanks to all this 'free' money you're getting?
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You're not. Stop kidding yourself.

Remember - you are already defeated by tomatoes and lettuce. Anyone who views grocery-shopping as an obstacle to their plans in life .... is basically the utter opposite of a planner. I might as well add - it also shows that you're not much of an analyser. Nor an organiser.

I really cannot imagine how you could consider yourself a planner, an analyser or an organiser. You have no plans, you are totally disorganised and you have a very poor understanding of what's happening around you.

How CAN you possibly imagine that you ARE a planner?

Earlier, someone actually wrote out a plan for you. A schedule for one day. What was your response? Something like this.

"Oh, what if a friend suddenly calls and I have to go over to his house to watch a movie? What if I suddenly remember that I need to go buy groceries? All this would disrupt my schedule and it wouldn't work? What if something happens, and I need to leave my house?"

Stop kidding yourself ..... Your "plan" is to do nothing, in case you get disrupted by anything. Might as well sit around the house your whole life, just in case a meteor strikes it, or an earthquakes comes along, so that you can then run out of your house.
My future and my daily schedule are two different things. It's fun and exciting to plan my future but it is not fun and exciting to plan my daily schedule. I don't want to force myself to write an article when I'd rather go for a walk. I don't want to force myself to meditate when I'd rather read something really interesting that I want to learn about. But I have planned my future so many times that I have about 20 different versions of it.

As for organizing, I have spent hours on a silly project that doesn't really need to be done just because I love to organize things. One night I took all my books and laid them in the center of my room, I sat on the floor, and spent the next 3 hours organizing them according to what type of book they were, and then figuring out a place where I wanted to keep them. I spent about 4 hours creating my "food notebook" where I am going to organize all the information I learn about food (for my own reference and also to have all my information in one place so I can put it all on my website). And you should see how I've organized my cd collection...it's way more impressive than any music store!

And as for analyzing, I can't beleive you don't see how I over analyze everything. I have charts and graphs and questionaires and quizzes all over the place, figuring out the pros and cons of things I have had to decide on. For the last few years I've done more analyzing than anything, as opposed to taking real action.
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No, I think you're pulling a fast one on yourself. As I mentioned, you've been pretending to yourself for quite some time: pretending that you truly want some things (certain forms of success), but really wanting something else (sloth) much, much more.
But if I was only pretending, wouldn't I have been aware of this, this whole time!? People who pretend something KNOW that they're pretending.

But I still believe that I want the things I want, for my future, I just feel like right now I have to think about what I want the most and which plans would be easier to achieve. I would say what I've been doing these last few years could be narrowed down into 2 words..."preparing" and "analyzing". I'm preparing for my future which will start whenever I have analyzed all my options enough to where a clear option presents itself.
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I would say what I've been doing these last few years could be narrowed down into 2 words..."preparing" and "analyzing". I'm preparing for my future which will start whenever I have analyzed all my options enough to where a clear option presents itself.
I would say it could be narrowed down to: pretending and rationalizing.

And no, people who are being dishonest with themselves don't always realize consciously that they're pretending.
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The money comes from people's taxes. So effectively your fellow working citizens have been supporting you while you have been sleeping late, sitting on the internet most of the time, and reading an endless series of 'self-help' books that you take little or no action on.
It sounds like you're blaming unemployed people (and me, specifically, in this case) for how the laws are set up. I didn't make the laws saying taxpayers have to pay for me. If it came from some rich guy somewhere who would gladly support all unemployed people, would that bother you just as much?

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You say you're looking for work, but people have given you dozens of suggestions for how to be more employable, and you always have an excuse for why you can't be bothered. Upthread, you said you have applied for about 70 or so jobs. Over 14 months of unemployment, by my math, that works out to a little over one a week. I'm not sure you're going to convince anyone that applying for one or two jobs a week constitutes full-time, serious job hunting.
I am qualified for probably 10% of jobs out there. I am not going to waste my time applying for jobs I am not qualified for, in fact sometimes they tell you to only apply if you are qualified. I also live in a small town, half an hour away from where most jobs are, and this limits me since I don't have reliable transportation. Yes, I could move, but moving requires me to already have a job so I know what I could afford. What's the point of moving somewhere when I don't even know IF I'll have a job and then I'd have to turn around and move home anyway!

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So can you see why it annoys others when you gloat about how great it's been to be able to do what you want, when you want, for over a year, thanks to all this 'free' money you're getting?
It would annoy me if I had said "I'm not even trying to find work,I'm just gonna milk this free money out as long as I can get it." But I have not said that!
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I would say it could be narrowed down to: pretending and rationalizing.

And no, people who are being dishonest with themselves don't always realize that they're pretending.
I do rationalize, but that's a desirable trait. If only more people were more rational! It goes along with being pratical, cautious, and realistic.

I still am not seeing the pretending thing. I am more surprised than anyone to find out that I actually enjoy my current daily routine. I am still not saying I enjoy it 100%, I just like that I have no schedule to adhere to and that I live by myself. Those are the only two things, actually.
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I'm reading this ebook called Creating Change In Your Life. I have ran across two contradictory statements and I am wondering which one is more true.

One says that people who succeed don't give up when they start to have doubts about what their goal is and what they are doing.

Another says that working on your goals and desires shouldn't feel like pulling teeth, and if you can't be bothered by it, move on and find something you CAN be bothered with.

Doesn't it sound like they're saying two different things here? I happen to agree with the 2nd one though, just because I have experienced that feeling a few times and felt GREATLY relieved after I "moved on".

I think part of why I have so many problems moving forward is because of contradictory advice like this!
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I like that I can plan my future, because planning is one of my favorite things to do. That's why I plan so much but never do because I'm a planner, an analyzer, an organizer.
If what I've bolded is true, become a professional event planner. They make decent money and you don't always need a college degree.


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This is helping me a lot in figuring myself out so this is not wasted time, I don't think. I'm learning along with everyone else. That's why I don't like that people think i'm doing this on purpose and manipulating people into helping me. I DO need the help.
Hmm....

Some insight might be needed.

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and as long as I'm continuing to learn and grow, I don't want to stop posting in here. Everyone else can stop if they want, if I have nothing to reply to then I'll find another way to learn.
Well, it IS your life, after all. Only time will tell if you have any more breakthroughs and begin to take more responsibility for yourself.

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For your sake, I really hope you do.

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It sounds like you're blaming unemployed people (and me, specifically, in this case) for how the laws are set up. I didn't make the laws saying taxpayers have to pay for me.
Not blaming you for the way the laws are set up. But for exploiting the system. There are millions of Americans out there working in jobs they don't necessarily love and I'll bet they don't feel too kindly towards people who are happy to take it easy on unemployment and wring every 'free' cent out of it until they're forced to take some real action.

Self-help and 'finding your purpose' are all very well and good, but you're expected to do it on your own dime, not everyone else's.

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I am qualified for probably 10% of jobs out there. I am not going to waste my time applying for jobs I am not qualified for, in fact sometimes they tell you to only apply if you are qualified. I also live in a small town, half an hour away from where most jobs are, and this limits me since I don't have reliable transportation. Yes, I could move, but moving requires me to already have a job so I know what I could afford. What's the point of moving somewhere when I don't even know IF I'll have a job and then I'd have to turn around and move home anyway!
All these excuses are really just starting to sound like the 'wah wah wah' noise Charlie Brown's teacher makes.

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It would annoy me if I had said "I'm not even trying to find work, I'm just gonna milk this free money out as long as I can get it." But I have not said that!
Your own record of your daily actions prove you are not trying particularly hard, so whether you've used those words or not, you ARE milking it as long as you can get it. Jeez, lady, you call it 'free money'! Do you not think that betrays your mindset?
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I also live in a small town, half an hour away from where most jobs are, and this limits me since I don't have reliable transportation.
You have a brother who fixes your vehicles for free.

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Yes, I could move, but moving requires me to already have a job so I know what I could afford. What's the point of moving somewhere when I don't even know IF I'll have a job and then I'd have to turn around and move home anyway!
Nope it doesn't require a job.

When I moved I had a job waiting for me but I couldn't start work until I had my license- which took five weeks. In the meantime, I got on foodstamps, went to the foodbank. I sat next to people who were homeless and ate the same meal and I was grateful. The foodshare resource I went through offered to help me find employment. I know of four girls in my CNA class whose training was paid for by the state. I'm sure if you really wanted to, you could move to Minneapolis - even if you had to live in a homeless shelter (but you could probably rent a room in a house or get a roommate for cheap.) I'm sure your unemployment money would cover it. There's plenty of public transportation so you don't need to worry about the car.

I think most places want to hire the locals first, so if you are actually there it would show how serious you are about finding work.

You would still be close to your family and you'd have alot more options. But I think this was mentioned before in the other thread you started but you found reasons why "it won't work."

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