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Old 04-28-2010, 09:56 PM   #331 (permalink)
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Then it would not be accurate to say that you have many interests.

It would be more accurate to say that you only have 3 interests:

(i) reading books
(ii) surfing the Internet
(iii) listening to MP3 downloads
But the books, websites and mp3's I am interested in are all about specific subjects. Wouldn't that mean I'm interested in those subjects?
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Old 04-28-2010, 09:59 PM   #332 (permalink)
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Riiiight.

You are jobless, single, no kids, and according to yourself, not in a position to pursue any of your interests.

But you are so busy that over the next few days, you cannot spare an hour or two to go the library.
I wouldnt be getting paid! I already know they have no positions open and if they did, they wouldn't hire me, because it's already happened.

It's my best friend's birthday tomorrow, so tonight I need to go shopping for a present and then tomorrow I'll be with him and then I have plans with another friend the next day, and my mom wanted to see Avatar so I will be going there either Saturday or Sunday. I am just going to quit answering these types of questions because I shouldn't have to explain why I'm choosing to spend time with important people in my life over doing something where I wouldn't be getting paid (and slim chance of that anyway).
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My idea was that it perhaps shows which thought processes lead to that behaviour and how to change them. My next question would be if Rockchick has tried to implement those steps.
Yes, I did, until I realized I didn't have the money to take the steps. Pretty much all I have money for is bills and sometimes to buy groceries. I don't have money to fill my car with gas and drive to places or buy things I can't afford. My plan is to get a job (what they call "a good enough job for now") and THEN when I can relax and not worry about money, I can clear my mind and work on these tools to reach my goals. Same with that other book I have called Creating Your Best Life, and this other ebook I have called Create Change In Your Life. I have the material and the tools, next I just need the money and the peace of mind that I have a job so I can relax and think clearly about what my future goals are.

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Refuse to choose, is about trying things on your list, so you don't have the worry of needing to stick to one kind of interest. It releases the stress of not knowing what to focus on.

It was quite helpful for me.
It was helpful for me too but I felt like I couldn't put into action what it told me to do yet because when I got this book last year I was unemployed then too, so nothing has changed. This book will really help me once I get a job which will then free up my mind completely, I won't have to deal with looking for a job anymore, I can focus on what I want.

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Ok so your blog failed, but have you asked yourself why? A blog is really hard work and so is owning and running an online business. People give blogs a good 1-2 years to really get momentum up. Don't worry I didn't understand this at first, so when I tried my first online business and blog, I just thought it would be easy peasy, I would write people would come. It just doesn't work like that at all. You have to network, contribute, learn what works and what doesn't work. Rome wasn't built in a day, and so everything takes time, and it needs you to reevaluate, ask what's working, what's not. Then try, try and try again.
There are different reasons for why both my sites failed. The music one failed because of how I had it set up, it was set up like a Wikipedia type thing and I thought it would be easy to include every single rock band from the 70's to today. After 15 months of trying, I was only about 1/4 of the way done and still wasn't earning any money. It was just a mountain too big, and also the cost was $30 a month and right now is a bad time for me to be paying that kind of money. My personal development blog failed (I think) because I simply lost interest and motivation (also partly why my music site failed too). I think I just like to try things, to see what it's like, and after I get what I wanted, I am ready to move on. I'll find out how my organic food site goes when I start that up.

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It seems that you might like to find the easy and quick solutions to things rockchick, just by one of your replies, where you explained you would rather go to a practitioner that would give you instant results. You may go down the easy fast route, but is that the best route? Patience will allow you to evaluate what your doing right and wrong...so that ultimately you can learn, grow and get what you want in life
Well it just seems obvious to me what the best answer would be, if you had a choice of going to therapy for 6 months at $100 a crack, or going to a hypnotist/reiki practitioner/energy healer one time for $100. They do claim they work right away or MAYBE with another session or two. Could anyone here honestly see me going to therapy though, I would just end up talking to him like I am in here and according to you guys I am not getting anywhere, so I think I would only end up frustrating my therapist!
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Let us carefully retrace one line of Rockchick's thought process, as shown in this thread.

1. Rockchick names writing as one of her interests.

2. Indiana responds by encouraging her. He writes: "Let's keep this on there. Your biggest problem with this seems not to be capacity but motivation, so that's a specific thing we can deal with."

3. Rockchick brightens up and says she's going to do it. She writes:
"I actually wanted to start up another website, this time a really cheap one ($3 a month, I found a good one for), and have it be about organic food/healthy eating/mind, body & spirit, just anything that supports whole health. So I do want to do this."

4. ALG asks Rockchick: "So when are you going to do it? On what date will be the website be up? Show us the link. We'll visit."

5. Rockchick starts her runaway routine. She writes: "Well I do need to write it first. You can't just start a website with one paragraph."

6. So ALG asks her: "So when are you going to write it?"

7. Rockchick replies: "Certainly not now while I am worrying and stressing about finding work and finding a new place to live and trying to figure out what to do!"

8. So ALG asks her: "So So, to find work, and/or to find a new place to live -
what did you do yesterday? what have you done today? what will you do tomorrow?"

9. Rockchick replies: "I don't know yet when my money will run out, I'll find out next Monday. Until then it would be pointless to look for a place to live because I don't know when I'll need to move, and I also don't know if I'll have a job by then."


In summary:

- she wants to write, but she needs a website first.
- she can't have a website, because she's written nothing for it.
- she can't write anything, because she has to find work and a new place to live
- but it's pointless to find work, because she doesn't know yet whether her unemployment benefits will run out
- and it's pointless to find a new place, because she doesn't know yet when she needs to move

That is to say,

she can't do P,
because she needs Q first,
but she can't do Q,
because she hasn't done P,
and she can't do P,
because she needs to do R and S,
but she can't do R because it's pointless right now, and
she can't do S because it's pointless right now.

Anyway, she says that "next monday", she'll get some certainty around R and S. I'll be back next Monday, to see what new developments will occur to stop her from doing anything in her life then.
Pretty much ALL my plans/goals for the future are dependent on me having money and being able to relax once I get some guaranteed money coming in. On Monday I will find out how much longer my unemployment money will be coming, either I will have to take action NOW or I'll have a few more months to try harder for a job, and look for a place to live, and that will change depending on if I find a job and how much I will get paid at that job. Either way, I am looking at the next few months of chaos and frantic searching. I don't see how I can do much writing in that time. I can still work on my website EVENTUALLY, I just don't see why people are so gung ho on me starting it this week.
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Rockchick.

Stop thinking.

Seriously, that's the root of the problem.

If you stop thinking, and just take action, everything will fall into place.

Stop. Thinking. You don't have an accurate model of reality anyway. You have no ideia what will happen anyway, no matter how much you think about it. You can only predict a bit.

Stop thinking, and take action.

There is no try, just do.
I want to believe this is right, but in the past when I HAVE taken action and "just did" what I wanted to do, my intuition started kicking in and my body was telling me these choices were wrong. People here are saying that was just my fear and it was starting to get "too hard", but these things weren't any harder than the first day I did them. I simply lost passion for them, in that context. A lot of people have actually told me that when you start doing your hobbies as a job, that's when it starts to not work. I think that is true, at least in my case.
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From Eric Berne's "Games People Play":



Fun game, huh?
Wow, this is from a book? Does it say anything about how to FIX it?

*googles it right now*
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Fun game, huh?
Wow I found out something interesting after researching this book and this author. He believes that children are born perfect until their parents screw them up. (in so many words thats what he said). I knew it all along, this is my dad's fault!

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Rockchick isn't aware that she is playing out a typical behavioural pattern.
She honestly thinks that her life is so complicated, that she can't even go to the library. So that means she isn't ready?
Do you really think I CAN'T go to the library? I've been there a hundred times! I've spent more hours in a bookstore/library than anyone I know! One time I literally sat there reading books for 8 hours. I do not have a fear of going to the library.
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I can't say that for sure. Let's ask her. Rockchick, are you aware that you (and we here in your threads, too) are playing out a typical behavioural pattern?
Yes I've always been aware of my pattern, I even started that thread about how I'm always starting things and not finishing them and then I post about it in here wondering why I do it. But for some reason, just knowing you're acting out a pattern doesn't help you figure out how to break it. I am really considering buying this book, there is another one that is even recommended more than that one, Amazon.com: Scripts People Live: Transactional Analysis of Life Scripts (9780802132109): Claude Steiner: Books

And they're cheap enough, too. ($4 used). See this is always what happens, for every problem I have, someone recommends a book or sends me ebooks or mp3's and now I've just added another week's worth of time to my pile of things I have to do. I"m not saying I won't read this, but this is just to point out to everyone how my life accumulates with so many things I have to read.

Now i'm just trying to figure out which book to order, that first one has a few negative reviews but this other one doesn't have any.
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There it is!

To me it looks like a way to feel as if there is something being done - on both sides. It is a lot of spining out that ends up on rockchick's "things to do list", which can be used to explain away all the sugestions that are pilling up on the pile that already has the felling of being pilled up. She now feels the need to keep us up to date and reply and defend actually.

Reading this thread made me question how it's helping. Like what are you getting out of this interaction rockchick? -- oh and I don't mind if you just answer that in your head and don't spend the time telling us.

In a way it is pretty cool how responsive and open you are and kind of unfretted about things (it seems). Now I know you will (or want to) write - "but this is all great stuff that everyone writes and I have lots of insight I didn't have". Or some other defense about this thread not really helping, only reinforcing the game Angel related.

Now for my suggestion for the pile of things you can't get to because there's a pile: read this book: Amazon.com: Stop Improving Yourself and Start Living (9780931432699): Roberta Jean Bryant: Books - or just read the title and get it. I actually got the book and then didn't read it (hahaha!!).
I actually just posted about this exact same thing, how now I have another book (or two) to read! Well make it 3 if I order this one here! Gosh they all sound like the answer to my problems! I really think that I should focus on books like this and not books about specific subjects regarding personal development. I'm hoping this one is as cheap as those other 2.

And I do want to answer your question, as to what I am getting out of this interaction...at times it is greatly worth it (like now when I am recommended books that will help me), and when I have an ah-ha moment (which I have had a few of those lately!). I've always felt like this place is like therapy for me, only it's free and I have an endless variety of therapists all with different points of view. I feel like I'm a big stone being chipped away at, and i'm learning how to chip away at myself from the inside while others are chipping away at the outside, and I feel like I'm getting closer and closer to being a normal, whole, mentally/emotionally healthy person. I should take this time now to thank everyone for putting up with me and trying their best, I know it seems like I'm just trying to argue but I guess my ego is pretty strong, and I have such a desire to express myself that I express all of the negative thoughts that come forth immediately after reading some of these suggestions. But I really do feel like I'm getting somewhere and I have to thank all of you for the help!
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Yes I've always been aware of my pattern, I even started that thread about how I'm always starting things and not finishing them and then I post about it in here wondering why I do it.
"Always starting things and not finishing them" is not the pattern. The pattern is: you post a question ostensibly looking for help, and people offer possible solutions ("Why not....") and you answer with a reason why that won't work ("Yes, but....."), and so they offer an other "why not" and you answer with another "yes, but" ad infinitum.

Engaging in this game itself is a con-game you're running on yourself so that you won't have to take any real action.

How you break this pattern is not by reading yet another book. That's just part of your rut -- "Yes, but first I have to read yet another book!" How you break the pattern is you recognize the pattern and choose something else. (You don't have to read a book to recognize your pattern. All you have to do is look and be willing to see. It wouldn't take any more time to do that than it would be to write yet another "yeah, but" response in this thread.)

But I predict you won't. I predict you'll "Yes, but" this response. (I'm working on my psychic skills! )
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Hi Rockchick,

A challenge for you. Try this for 1 day. If it works, try for another day. If it doesn't work, let us know why it didn't work. But only after you tried it. I know you can do this!! I just know you can!

If I can get my lazy ass out of bed and into the gym at 7am, you can do this! I promise you, you can do this!!

If the times do not agree with your usual getting up time, just feel free to change them to an hour later or earlier (or 2 or 3).

12.00 Getting up
12.30 Making breakfast
13.00 Eating breakfast
13.30 Cleaning up breakfast stuff
14.00 Sit down in front of your computer, turn off the internet, don't look at email. Don't open chat rooms. Just open up word.
14.05 Write 1 article in word (or notepad or even on pen and paper if you want) about what plants you are growing now and why. Don't bother with the HOW, just, why did you choose the plants you choose and which one did you choose.
Don't worry about spelling. Don't worry about it being perfect. Just write about it. Don't worry about finishing it. It doesn't have to be finished. Just write about it.
Set an alarm clock so you know when the time is up.
14:30 Break. Get a snack. Go to the bathroom. Watch some TV. DO NOT YET TURN THE INTERNET ON!
15:00 Read a bit of one of your ebooks
15:45 Go outside for a walk
16:00 Be inside again after your walk (Doesn't matter if it seems to short and pointless to you... just try it... for me..??)
16:05 Shower and get dressed
16:45 Eat a snack
17:00 Turn on your computer and be online for a while. Just do FUN stuff.. No researching. Just chatting, reading emails, being on forums.
Set an alarm so you know when your time is up. Tell people chatting with you that you only have 1 hour and will have to go afterward!!
18:00 Fun time over Research jobs. Pick 2. Do nothing with them yet. Just pick them. If you cannot choose, pick nr 4 and 6
19:00 Make some pictures. It is your hobby not your job, so don't worry about it. Just do it because you like doing it. Inside or outside. Nature or people.. whatever you want (just don't do sunsets because they turn out black )
19:30 Make dinner
20.00 Eat dinner
20.30 Clean up Dinner stuff.
21:00 Do Whatever You Want! Free time!! Spend it on forums. Research stuff. Read nice books. Just make sure you are having fun!!!!
03.00 Go to sleep

The day after you have a day off. You can do whatever you want to do, like you have always done before.

Let me know (here or via PM) how it worked. If it worked, I'll give you a new schedule for day 3. Trust me that this will work. Just do exactly what I write. You don't have to choose. You don't have to agree. You just have to DO.

I know you can do it. I know that you are capable of doing this. This is the first step in your new life and I just KNOW that you will succeed in this!!
This actually looks a lot like some of the days I already have! So yeah I can easily do this. It will have to be a day when I have no plans, I'm not sure yet what day that will be. What happens if somebody calls me and something comes up where I have to leave? I can just start again the next day I guess. I know I'm busy the next 2 days so this will most likely be Saturday or Sunday. I'll probably post it in here though because I'm sure people will want to see the results.
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"Always starting things and not finishing them" is not the pattern. The pattern is: you post a question ostensibly looking for help, and people offer possible solutions ("Why not....") and you answer with a reason why that won't work ("Yes, but....."), and so they offer an other "why not" and you answer with another "yes, but" ad infinitum.

Engaging in this game itself is a con-game you're running on yourself so that you won't have to take any real action.

How you break this pattern is not by reading yet another book. That's just part of your rut -- "Yes, but first I have to read yet another book!" How you break the pattern is you recognize the pattern and choose something else. (You don't have to read a book to recognize your pattern. All you have to do is look and be willing to see. It wouldn't take any more time to do that than it would be to write yet another "yeah, but" response in this thread.)

But I predict you won't. I predict you'll "Yes, but" this response. (I'm working on my psychic skills! )
I think by now everyone could predict what my answer will be!

I did order one of the books, the one about how to stop improving and live your life. It was only a penny on Amazon! Can't pass that up. I also found a free pdf download of Games People Play so I don't have to buy that one.

Ok here is what I think is a good reason for reading these books, and the ones I'm currently in the middle of. Because all of them show you a step by step plan of how to fix the problem. They don't just give you information, they take it a step beyond that. This will be a good test for me to see what happens after I read these. If I can't put this stuff into action (for reasons other than lack of money), then I'll discover what the real problem is. Either way, I gain something, be it knowledge or a new life.
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This actually looks a lot like some of the days I already have! So yeah I can easily do this. It will have to be a day when I have no plans, I'm not sure yet what day that will be. What happens if somebody calls me and something comes up where I have to leave? I can just start again the next day I guess. I know I'm busy the next 2 days so this will most likely be Saturday or Sunday. I'll probably post it in here though because I'm sure people will want to see the results.
No, when somebody calls to do something, you tell them : Sure... after 21.00 (your free time). Or on your off day. If they are really friends they will understand that you have other plans.

Of course, this doesn't go for any standing engagements.

What this does, is slowly and surely making you do things in a scheduled way, so you are not loosing time. You will know exactly where it has gone to.

Very very slowly you could start with 15 minutes more writing. Or job searching. Or actually sending your resume.. But that is for later. For now, just do 1 day on, and 1 day off schedule.

Any standing engagements, plan them in as well.. You can let me know and I'll make the planning for you, or you can plan your days yourself. Whatever you feel is better. At this moment it might be better if I do it for you (privately or here on the forum, what you want) so you don't have to make any choices...
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I might as well celebrate a friend's birthday because to me that is more important than doing work for free.
Remember - you can only use that excuse twice per year.

You've said that you are very shy and you have only two friends.
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So yeah I can easily do this. It will have to be a day when I have no plans, I'm not sure yet what day that will be.

This is an exciting new variation on "Yes, but".

It is "Yes, I'll do it ... not now ... not next week ... but someday ... in the future ... Not sure when ... Can't decide .... Maybe in this lifetime .... Maybe in the next".

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Wow I found out something interesting after researching this book and this author. He believes that children are born perfect until their parents screw them up. (in so many words thats what he said). I knew it all along, this is my dad's fault!
Well, that may very well be, but I'd say that by the age of 37, you're responsible for yourself and your own actions.

Just a thought.
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Old 04-29-2010, 03:20 AM   #350 (permalink)
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Ok here is what I think is a good reason for reading these books, and the ones I'm currently in the middle of.
Did you ever realise that:

(i) it is possible to read books without postponing your life?

(ii) you can also learn through actual experience, not just reading?

(iii) there are millions of books in the world, and you cannot finish reading all of them?

(iv) many books on the same topic just repeat the same content and core principles of that topic, in slightly different ways?

(v) you don't have to read a book right from the beginning to the end, before you start applying useful ideas from the book?

(vi) whatever the ideas you may find in a book, you still need to apply them in order to gain any benefit?

(vii) you can look at the contents page of a book, and just dip selectively into the relevant chapters, to help you address specific issues in your life?
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I wouldnt be getting paid! I already know they have no positions open and if they did, they wouldn't hire me, because it's already happened.
In case you don't remember:

- it was you who said that you would like to work in a library

- someone said, then why don't you?

- you said, there are no jobs there

- someone said so, why don't you volunteer at the library? It could lead to a job opportunity later

- you said, oh, that's a good idea

- I asked you, so when are you going?

- you then went into Intense Excuse Mode

- And now your latest excuse is "I wouldnt be getting paid!". When earlier it was you yourself who said that it was a good idea to volunteer, as it could lead to an actual job opportunity.

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It's my best friend's birthday tomorrow, so tonight I need to go shopping for a present and then tomorrow I'll be with him and then I have plans with another friend the next day, and my mom wanted to see Avatar so I will be going there either Saturday or Sunday.
So why don't you go to the library on Monday?

If not Monday, why not Tuesday?

If not Tuesday, why not Wednesday?
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Do you really think I CAN'T go to the library? I've been there a hundred times!
So when are you going?

Frankly, I have no idea what your local library is like, or whether it wants volunteers or employees, or what it will pay or won't pay, etc etc.

But it was you who had said that it would be a good idea to volunteer.

I'm just curious to see why you are so adamant about not taking steps to execute any of your own good ideas.
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My plan is to get a job (what they call "a good enough job for now")
So what are you doing today, to try to get a job?

If you're not doing anything today, what will you do tomorrow, or the day after, or next week? To get a job.
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It's a book for people who are called "scanners" because they can't choose what they want to do because they have too many interests or they can't stick with any one thing very long. It describes me perfectly.
You have to try to understand that you're not a scanner.

You do not have many interests. You only have a few interests, namely, reading, and surfing the Internet.

And you stick to your interests for a very long time. You are always reading and surfing the Internet, not doing much else.

Clearly you are not a scanner.

Another very, very clear sign that you're not a scanner is that when you last had a job, you worked at it for 18 years. This is absolutely not Scanner behaviour.

A scanner's career path would be more like David Allen's:

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That's Scanner behaviour. They actually go out in the world and do all sorts of very different things. In David's case - he performed stage magic; taught karate; sold vitamins; did landscaping; cooked in a restaurant; worked as a personal growth trainer; ran a travel agency etc etc.

All before the age of 35. That's younger than you are.

You ... are ... not ... a ....Scanner.

That's why that book "Refuse to Choose" is not useful for you.

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Calling oneself a "scanner" is a nice excuse for not taking action. You may feel better - temporarily - but it doesn't really change anything, right? I've known some people to say "oh I just can't focus... I must have A.D.D." But they have no problem focusing on many things. A.D.D. is not the issue for them either.

After reading about 5-10 self-help books, you know 99% of the material in all of them. There's no reason to keep reading. Steve addresses this issue in Self-Help Junkie (something else to read... )

You mentioned a book that gives you a "specific plan." If you want a specific plan, a one-on-one mentor with a successful life, look at Acting Like Godot. He has taken a lot of his own time to tell you exactly what you need to know - better than any book can - but his advice has been disregarded. No?

You will change when you actually want to change, Rock. I wish you the best. As Angela pointed out - you're a very good mirror! You've already reminded me how important being proactive is.
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No, when somebody calls to do something, you tell them : Sure... after 21.00 (your free time). Or on your off day. If they are really friends they will understand that you have other plans.
So I have to tell people, "I can't do anything because some people on the internet are scheduling my day for me and you're not in it." ? How am I going to word this where it doesn't sound fishy or like I'm trying to get out of plans with them? I have only turned people down a few times and there were good reasons. One time I told my friend I was doing something and she said "Do it tomorrow!" and I said "I'm busy tomorrow" and she said "Do it the next day! You have to be more flexible!" So that one puts up an argument and literally tells me to do whatever I'm doing another day.

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What this does, is slowly and surely making you do things in a scheduled way, so you are not loosing time. You will know exactly where it has gone to.
Oh, is that what it's for, so I know exactly what I'm doing every minute? I could remember what I did every minute and just tell you.

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Well the thing is, my plans always come up at the last minute, friends will call and say "what are you up to" and I'll say "nothing" and they'll say "ok we're gonna ____" whatever the thing is, and then I just come over. There is never any question about it. It would seem very odd if I suddenly could never do anything because my day was already planned. And if I tell them no every day then when will I be able to do something with them if they don't make plans ahead of time?
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Remember - you can only use that excuse twice per year.

You've said that you are very shy and you have only two friends.
Well I DO have other friends but I only see them either on birthdays or maybe a few other times during the year. There's also family birthdays too.

I'm starting to think this is not a good idea, this planning of my days. 9 times out of 10 something is going to come up, either work will call me or somebody will call me to do something or I'll need something and have to go somewhere that can't be planned (grocery store, Walmart, etc.) and the days I go to my moms depends on when I have stuff for us to watch and when she isn't busy after work, and a lot of weekends she'll call me saying my nephew is there and wants to see me and then I go there. I don't make my plans, they are made for me. That doesn't mean other people control me, it's just that I'm always going to other people's houses so it isn't my place to invite myself, they know to call me, that's just how it works.
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This is an exciting new variation on "Yes, but".

It is "Yes, I'll do it ... not now ... not next week ... but someday ... in the future ... Not sure when ... Can't decide .... Maybe in this lifetime .... Maybe in the next".
Ok that was funny but you're not playing fair! Would YOU want someone planning your entire schedule for you? Most of my day is made up of activities and events that I have no idea are going to happen until they are happening, they're too spontaneous. It's hard to plan around that.

I know for a fact that I am busy tomorrow (Thursday) and Friday, and either Saturday or Sunday probably. Then Mondays me and my friends always watch this show together and I never know what time I'm going over there until I get the call. Tuesday nights Lost is on and that's my favorite show and I always spend a few hours after that talking to everyone about what happened. Nothing is going to interrupt that, that's the highlight of my week. And Thursdays another show I watch is on and I usually watch it at a friend's house.

I am not saying I can't do these things but if somebody calls me or if there is something I do every week at that time, I'm going to do it. But then when I get back home and my time is my own, then I can work on this stuff. I will even write everything down exactly what I did each hour. In fact I could do that for tonight to just give you an idea of how a typical day in my life goes.

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3:45-Got up, made bed, checked phone messages, gathered clothes
4:00-took shower
4:30-Made something to eat
4:45-Got online, caught up in here and on emails, Twitter, Facebook, also researched those books on Amazon and ordered one, found a free ebook of another one.
5:30-Mom called from work wanting to know the unemployment website so I went to it and told her the address and talked to her until her break was done.
6:00-Got an email including another ebook about natural health cures so I started reading it
7:00-Friend called, planned to get together in a bit
7:15-Ate, made list for Target (where we were going)
7:30-Got ready
7:50-Went to friend's house, Target, watched movie at friend's house
11:30-Got home, put away stuff I bought
11:45-Got online, got into a conversation with friend on Twitter about tattooes, showed her pictures of the ones I want next. Also caught up on more emails.
1:30-Made something to eat (homemade chicken strips)
2:00-Made list of all the ebooks I'm reading and wrote down what page i'm on for each of them
2:10-Jumped on trampoline a little bit
2:20-Got into conversation on Twitter about my tattooes I want and ended up finding more pictures I want to add to them, tried to use photo editing program to create the picture but got frustrated, couldn't get it to work
3:30-Catching up on emails and in here now.
After I'm done catching up-might dance for a little bit because I haven't done a workout like that in about a week, might read a little of one of my ebooks, will probably do that while I do my Curves bar/stretchy band/yoga (I can read on my computer sitting on a shelf while I do that stuff).
After I'm done with that stuff-Eat something small, catch up on the newspaper from a few days ago (whatever I have time for), then get ready for bed
Probably around 6 am-Go to bed listening to hypnosis mp3.

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Well, that may very well be, but I'd say that by the age of 37, you're responsible for yourself and your own actions.

Just a thought.
Well the whole point of these books is that you get stuck in this pattern from a young age (before you even know what is happening) and you don't realize how or why this happened, so, no matter what age you are, it will continue until you realize you are in this pattern and you find out how to break out of it. It isn't something you can change unless you are told about it and told how to fix it. Hence, the reason for the books.
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