New Age Failures

[themaster]

It seems to me and I've been engaged in a study of New Age for about 4 months now.. that there are a lot of New Age failures (at least in the social gatherings)

And I'm not saying.. "their failures"

I'm saying their searching for
- Soul Mate
- Understanding
- The right way to use LOA/IM etc.

I met a person the other day that had been studying new age philosophies for over 30 years but said he was finally getting some better effects from using Abraham-Hicks terminology?

I can only say that the failures I'm talking about are something I can read off the people on a vibrational/sub conscious level, (it becomes even more clearer when they speak about their issues) they are having a hard time really achieving their goals. I was wondering if that was common for new age engagers..

[Narz]

I tend to notice the same.

However you can't assume it's because of their new age beliefs. Correlation doesn't necessarily imply causality. Perhaps these people were already failures and/or desperate and that's what drew them into newagey stuff. People who tend to crave easy answers and fantastical solutions generally are failures, the same types of people will easily get reeled in by charlatans or folks espousing unsound principles but that doesn't mean that their new-age practices caused their condition, just that the same beliefs that caused their failure also caused them to seek comfort in over-simplistic solutions.

[bylto]

the same beliefs that caused their failure also caused them to seek comfort in over-simplistic solutions.

I agree with that Narz. It's the mindset that brings failure that also brings a desire for shortcuts. I'm not saying that LOA doesn't work, in fact I know it does from personal experience but not without action - that's based on my results so far, bypassing action might be possible but not in my experience yet.

[Elenny]

Unfortunately a lot of those "failures" spend a lot of time on these forums trying to drag other people down with them.

The problem for them is that they don't know how to implement the new age thinking / LoA / IM, or whatever you prefer to call it.

If they took a long, hard look in the mirror, it would become a lot more clear that the problem is them, not necessarily the methodology.

[Nala]

I have watched The Secret (which I love) and read a million self-help books.

But all of them just brought me back to where I was when I was a kid.

When I was growing up, I just knew that I could do whatever I wanted to do. It didn't even enter my mind to doubt it. And it didn't matter what adults said (perhaps because I had parents who believed in me so much). Anyway, I always got what I thought I would get ... everytime.

Actually, there was one glitch. I wanted to go to X Ivy League for college and Y Ivy League for grad school. But ... I went to Y Ivy League for college and X Ivy League for grad school (a bit of a switcharoo that seemed like a slap in the face at the time but ended up working out quite well).

My parents always said that they could not believe it ... everything I planned, I received.

It was all so easy when I was young.

For a brief period of years in my late 20's when I started to doubt ... my fortunes turned. And when they turned, they turned fast.

And then I learned the LOA and realized that the LOA was what I had been practicing all along. So the reversal of fortune only lasted for a brief period. It was all in my head. And I found my way back to the path that I'd walked as a child. Powerful stuff.

[Narz]

Originally Posted by Elenny

Unfortunately a lot of those "failures" spend a lot of time on these forums trying to drag other people down with them.

Who's trying to drag you down? Maybe you should adopt the belief that everything happens for your highest good. I adopted that one a few years back, I found it to be a nugget of gold in the compost bin of life.

Originally Posted by Elenny

The problem for them is that they don't know how to implement the new age thinking / LoA / IM, or whatever you prefer to call it.

For the record, LoA isn't really synonymous with "new age thinking", I agree with "soft LoA" (as a psychological tool) but not literally as a law (same way the most intelligent people think about the Greek myths or Bible stories).

Originally Posted by Elenny

If they took a long, hard look in the mirror, it would become a lot more clear that the problem is them, not necessarily the methodology.

The problem is me? What problem? So you're saying that if I'm looking to the East and expecting to see a sunset but not seeing it that it's my fault? Take your personal attacks elsewhere lady.

That's another annoying thing about newagers. Absolutely no tolerance for constructive criticism and they prove there lack of complete self-acceptance by going on the attack in a thread they never should have opened in the first place. Elenny, if you believe in all the LoA stuff as you say you do why did you open this thread? Think about it.

[Thomas Jensen]

I like the point made here by a previous poster. All PD books and exercises do, is try to help you back into the instinctive condition where you just inherently 'know' that you can achieve whatever you put your mind to. There's no real formula. At some point, you will end up almost ditching the PD manuals because the positive attitude has become your natural state of mind - to think about the mechanics and the details of how it works becomes counter-productive.

[Cron]

It seems to me and I've been engaged in a study of New Age for about 4 months now.. that there are a lot of New Age failures (at least in the social gatherings)

My opinion is that because what works is work. That and believing in yourself because you've worked hard, achieved things, and have proof of your ability.


Even Steve Pavlina said that the LOA stuff will not work unless you work in a concrete fashion towards what you want.

Nobody got anywhere with wishful thinking alone.

[Elenny]

Narz....you should really stretch before you get up in the morning sweetie. You sound like you're about to pop.

[Narz]

Originally Posted by Elenny

Narz....you should really stretch before you get up in the morning sweetie. You sound like you're about to pop.

How am I supposed to stretch before I get up sweetie?