Information Sharing.. :)

[themaster]

I have no idea why I don't refresh the "experiment thread" and do this.. but just don't feel like it so.. and and..

Our first sharing is from Kryon.. have a listen see if it resonates

(both our around 50 mb and about 40 minutes of audio)

http://www.kryon.com/Audio/Auckland2010_1.mp3

http://www.kryon.com/Audio/Auckland2010_2.mp3

Next comes my teacher.. Jim Self

(20 mb and about 50 minutes talking)

http://www.masteringalchemy.com/audi...2510_fullr.mp3

(23 mb and about 57 minutes of questions)

http://www.masteringalchemy.com/audi...32510_4qar.mp3

(20 mb and about 50 minutes of questions)

http://www.masteringalchemy.com/audi...32510_7qar.mp3

If you have any comments or questions feel free to refresh the thread.. or ignore

[beatnix]

Excellent

More Jim Self audios, thank you And I haven't listened to Kryon for a year or so. So it is very much appreciated, too.

[jak3b]

Im listening to Jim Self.Im really enjoying it which is odd because when I first checked him out it didnt click with me.Now I want that first level DVD set;-).

[themaster]

Originally Posted by jak3b

Im listening to Jim Self.Im really enjoying it which is odd because when I first checked him out it didnt click with me.Now I want that first level DVD set;-).

Good luck.. for the record that's just part 1.. I can post part 2 if you want..?? (but it's all there.. hidden in some sublinks on his website )

And if you do watch it.. please post some feedback.. I love feedback or as Johnny 5 says "Input.. Input.. Input.. need input!"

[beatnix]

Originally Posted by themaster

Good luck.. for the record that's just part 1.. I can post part 2 if you want..?? (but it's all there.. hidden in some sublinks on his website )

That would be great actually I'm not sure if I managed to download part 2. I went to the parent directory and downloaded all the 2009 and 2010 mp3s that had "full" in the title (as the all the others are usually snippets of 5 to 10 mins and it takes ages to sort and rename them...)

[themaster]

This is technically the site where it is.. but to help out.. here's the links

Mastering Alchemy | Archive-March-April 10

This file is 20.6 Mb and is the lecture portion of the talks.. which is about 50 minutes

http://www.masteringalchemy.com/audi...4110_fullr.mp3

And here comes questions and answers..

10.3 Mb and 26 minutes

http://www.masteringalchemy.com/audi...04110_4qar.mp3

21.9 Mb and 55 minutes

http://www.masteringalchemy.com/audi...04110_7qar.mp3

For the record tomorrow 04/15 there will be another webinar where you can talk to him (he says in these recordings or I've heard him say they get about 2,000 people to listen so maybe not.. here's a tip use the LOA )

[jak3b]

I listened to the first Jim Self lecture and all the questions.Today Im going to listen to part 2.I had this feeling that I had listened to this before.Not because of the content more to do with with the tone of it,Err,its hard to articulate.I know I did not listen to this before.The information I have heard before from different sources.I had the same reaction to this at first I had when I found about ABE-Hicks.I thought "Nah,this isnt for me" and let it go.Later it kept popping up in different places so I checked it out again and thought "Damm,this is great!".I think Im just ready for this stage at this time.Funny how this all works.

[themaster]

Yah, it's weird.. first time I ran into abraham-hicks I rejected it after I saw they had a book out or dvd called "secret life of pets" or something.. that kind of bugged me.. I changed my tune a few months later.. when I saw "the secret"

I've always said Jim's not a easy teacher.. when I met him I validated what he said.. but I didn't think he had anything to offer me.. he spent 5-10 minutes talking to me..

And I had thoughts like this and jim corresponded with me by saying these things..

Me: I don't think it's worth the money

Jim: "let me offer you a money back guarantee"

Me: Awesome.. I'll just go and get my money back and say it didn't work

Jim: "this money back guarantee is conditional that it's based on the idea it doesn't help you/find value in some way"

Me: Well, course it will help me in some way there is benefit in anything
Me: Maybe, I can sneak in and not get noticed as having paid

So, I basically new under those terms that I had to pay.. what I found funny was this conversation was only directed at me.. I didn't hear him offer it to anyone else..

If you read my decision to go to "Jim Self's" Alchemy class 1 thread.. you'll know that when I decided to go (which was only 1-2 hours) before it started when I decided to go I felt excited/nervous/scared I was actually quite surprised at the reaction.. cause it had just been a "normal" day till then..

When I got there I decided to pay.. because I did believe "Jim" was hearing my thoughts via telepathy/reading.. and I couldn't stand the idea of me being in that class "worried about getting caught not having paid and others things" so I just paid the second I got there..

This same issue came up again too.. cause my class is april the 30th.. again I just paid.. I don't want the headache of the "worry" and "doubt" and the I'm not okay in class.. he can have another of my $200+ dollars..

(up until I met jim I had only ever paid $400 for "new age" books/materials and the like.. after I met Jim I'm up $2000 from that.. actually make that $2250 as I plan to order some ormus and some medicines he recommended for my gums.. (it's not going to him))

Since I'm a cheapskate.. you can see that I was doing fine.. until Jim And I would honestly.. pay much more for any "permission slip" to the holodeck

I'm going to expand on this telepathy thing since I already did here.. I have 1 email I'm still waiting on from jim over the thread I posted How hard is it to believe you create your own reality?

And that one hasn't come in.. but a few days ago I was in Little Rock, AR and was seriously as suggested going to consider finding some of the ancient atlantis crystal areas and see if they have effect.. (also coincidently I was looking for hot springs of metaphysical knowledge/lore.. I didn't find any there.. but strange information just turned up there was some in Santa Fe, NM which I had oddly passed through a month ago )

Anyway.. even though I haven't updated this thread.. since I'm writing all this I will (and the odds of me looking for said "crystals" now seems remote.. I wasn't looking for the crystals.. I was looking for the energy)

Road Trip/Field Work - Atlantis and Fire Crystals ohh.. my!

But what was odd is while I have received no reply with the email I asked above.. on the day I wanted to find the crystals I corresponded with Jim twice on that day in real quick time.. (I also asked/intentioned it too ) but I was surprised that I was able to get the quick answers.. and it didn't get all delayed.. (to me this is possible evidence of telepathy or at least inner self to inner self communication/prioritization)

One thing I never stated was on sunday I think it was the last class day in october (jim had said to me the previous day talk with me after lunch tomorrow.. about your energy (shaking I don't control/but allow)) anyway I showed up and waited till he was available at lunch.. and then he told me it had all been taken care of in the "dream" stage last night.. (which wasn't super surprising cause the last thing I remember falling asleep was jim that night)

Anyway.. what happened was I went to lunch.. "Boston Market" and there wasn't a lot of time to get back.. when I started back from "boston market" finally.. it was the time for class to start.. but I intentioned this "slow time down/have them wait for me"

Now I don't know what happened but when I got into that classroom late like 1:10 p.m or so.. the second I got in the "whole room" started clapping.. now I didn't ask what for.. but I always got the impression Jim knew I was delayed.. told the class.. and I was the only one left out on the joke

[beatnix]

I see why you trust him Why do you think he's not an easy teacher?

I have this habit of listening to his audios late at night and then usually falling asleep with headphones on. This morning I woke up before he mentioned that the nowadays frequently occurring natural phenomena or "disasters" were the earth's way of clearing itself from the negative thoughts stored in... now where were they stored again? I have to relisten... I am glad that he repeats himself a lot as I need to hear this information again and again before it sinks in.

Just downloaded Monday's clairvoyance audio and according to the summary he's really going into various aspects of the rose tool. Can't wait to listen to it

[themaster]

Originally Posted by beatnix

I see why you trust him Why do you think he's not an easy teacher?

Cause I don't always resonate with him.. which it says in the email I sent him (the unanswered one)

Cause he doesn't always answer my EGO questions..

And because sometimes I don't even know what the work were doing is.. I learned more about the work were doing from the webinar them from him

Originally Posted by beatnix

I have this habit of listening to his audios late at night and then usually falling asleep with headphones on. This morning I woke up before he mentioned that the nowadays frequently occurring natural phenomena or "disasters" were the earth's way of clearing itself from the negative thoughts stored in... now where were they stored again? I have to relisten... I am glad that he repeats himself a lot as I need to hear this information again and again before it sinks in.

I believe he said all the thoughts are in the earth.. that's where there stored.. not 100% on this

Originally Posted by beatnix

Just downloaded Monday's clairvoyance audio and according to the summary he's really going into various aspects of the rose tool. Can't wait to listen to it

Yes, I have not listened.. it's on my to-do list..

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by themaster

Next comes my teacher.. Jim Self

(20 mb and about 50 minutes talking)

http://www.masteringalchemy.com/audi...2510_fullr.mp3

(23 mb and about 57 minutes of questions)

http://www.masteringalchemy.com/audi...32510_4qar.mp3

(20 mb and about 50 minutes of questions)

http://www.masteringalchemy.com/audi...32510_7qar.mp3

If you have any comments or questions feel free to refresh the thread.. or ignore

I like the Jim Self stuff. Thanks for the links here.

[themaster]

Glad you like it.. enjoy!

[beatnix]

This quote is from the "In the Mean Time (love and romance)" thread:

Originally Posted by themaster

my teacher says 40% of lightworkers won't make the shift.. if that's true.. that's pretty big screw-up’s)

Does he say that in the Level 1 / Level 2 classes? So far I only heard him say that everyone was going to make the shift...

[themaster]

Yah, we've talked about this before.. you should read this thread..

LoA and attracting everything in your life...

I'm pretty sure he has said it in my class recordings.. (the source was Metatron) you can have a listen if you want.. there all public (in some of the early ones.. you can hear him talk about coming earthquakes before they come.. specifically I know he said that right after the haiti earthquake and then there was chile and how many ever more)

[beatnix]

Originally Posted by themaster

Yah, we've talked about this before.. you should read this thread..

LoA and attracting everything in your life...

I'm pretty sure he has said it in my class recordings.. (the source was Metatron) you can have a listen if you want.. there all public (in some of the early ones.. you can hear him talk about coming earthquakes before they come.. specifically I know he said that right after the haiti earthquake and then there was chile and how many ever more)

I'm still surprised... I think I listened to all 2010 webinars by now as well as quite a few of the 2009 ones... I only recall him saying that this time everyone is going to make the shift, it is just going to be less comfortable for some.

Speaking of webinars, the latest will be downloadable by Thursday

Originally Posted by themaster

Cause I don't always resonate with him.. which it says in the email I sent him (the unanswered one)

Cause he doesn't always answer my EGO questions..

And because sometimes I don't even know what the work were doing is.. I learned more about the work were doing from the webinar them from him

Would you mind explaining what exactly doesn't resonate with you? And which questions do you consider ego questions? (I know you refer to Bashar as an ego teacher - maybe my ego is so overpowering that I don't understand the term )

So far I haven't come across anything Jim Self related that really doesn't resonate with me... I find it hard to imagine that humanity is supposed to make this gigantic shift so soon. But then again what am I to know?

[themaster]

Originally Posted by beatnix

I'm still surprised... I think I listened to all 2010 webinars by now as well as quite a few of the 2009 ones... I only recall him saying that this time everyone is going to make the shift, it is just going to be less comfortable for some.

Speaking of webinars, the latest will be downloadable by Thursday

I'm pretty, sure he did say it in a webinar.. but can't be sure 100%

All I know is he's said it more than once.. no more webinars till september it appears.. (I got the feeling from his last one.. they'd just keep going and going.. but ohh well )

Originally Posted by beatnix

Would you mind explaining what exactly doesn't resonate with you? And which questions do you consider ego questions?

The resonate is a feeling.. just like the first day I met.. and the day after.. I posted this..

Choosing a teacher :)

It's not as bad.. it just comes and go.. sometimes it feels very much like he's saying limitation/rules and structure for releasing ourselves from this place..

As he's teaching us about the 8 or 9 rays of creation or how many ever there are.. I'm starting to wonder if he can use them.. or if this stuff is just starting to get turned on.. I don't know.. I'll just find out when I get there..

The truth of it is.. whether I'm there in 6 months or 5 years.. I will keep searching for "permission slips" to get to my holodeck.. until I'm there

Originally Posted by beatnix

And which questions do you consider ego questions? (I know you refer to Bashar as an ego teacher - maybe my ego is so overpowering that I don't understand the term )

Ego questions.. umm..

How does one instantly manifest a apple?

Jim: I have to take you through some steps.. and you won't be there till your there

Originally Posted by beatnix

So far I haven't come across anything Jim Self related that really doesn't resonate with me... I find it hard to imagine that humanity is supposed to make this gigantic shift so soon. But then again what am I to know?

Excellent and good for you.. all I can say is honestly sometimes I don't resonate.. and I feel a bit off center.. I knew when I took him as a teacher I didn't fully resonate.. I took him, anyway

It isn't as bad as all that.. but there is a warning in my "Jim Self" thread which is exactly about the subject of resonation..

There was never anything in Bashar or Abraham material that ever gave me this feeling.. it was all just wow.. I got.. unbelievable.. etc.

So to be clear it comes and goes.. right now, it's fine.. I really wish he would answer my partial invalidation questions.. I sent him though.. we shall see..

[AaronA]

Hello themaster,

I have a question for you. Above you wrote:

I will keep searching for "permission slips" to get to my holodeck.. until I'm there

This seems like it's the most extreme representation of the LoA style thinking. I believe that there's a lot of potential in the world, and I'm even fairly convinced of multiple universes. I balk at the idea of me literally creating the world a la the holodeck. Is that just a metaphoric upper limit for you, or do you feel that's something you'll actually achieve? Have you had consistent success with manifesting lesser goals that you now feel the your world is programmed in a sense? Just curious.

Aaron

[themaster]

Originally Posted by AaronA

This seems like it's the most extreme representation of the LoA style thinking.

If you say so.. I mean was ford extreme..?? or einstein? or "benjamin franklin"?? I've got this crazy idea..?? electricity.. go back to the pub you...

It is a very advanced form of thinking I grant you.. it stems from a simple idea "anything is possible" to "were all one, same energy, same being" etc.

Your extreme may have more to do with the idea that anything in our imaginations we can create.. I have talked about the idea before.. that some people really don't believe "anything's possible" when you put the rules of reality to it

Originally Posted by AaronA

I believe that there's a lot of potential in the world, and I'm even fairly convinced of multiple universes. I balk at the idea of me literally creating the world a la the holodeck. Is that just a metaphoric upper limit for you, or do you feel that's something you'll actually achieve?

Based on the information I've received from my sources and my teacher.. the holodeck exists.. in higher 4d.. is in cube form.. and that's all I know.. a certain reference was made to me about what it would be like when I get there and that's all I know.. since linear time is a illusion.. technically I'm already there..

Understand the holodeck is meant to take you from 4d back to 3d if you choose under your rules.. but being in 4d is a strip away from huge ideas like the "judgment system" and choosing to ignore all the beautiful things in higher 4d not to mention considering to go to 5d

Is that just a metaphoric upper limit for you, or do you feel that's something you'll actually achieve?

I started my journey to the holodeck in 2003.. at the time I called it the most impossible thing ever.. as you can see the dialog and situations and beliefs built for it are better than "the most impossible thing ever"

Understand that I attend to achieve the holodeck by "human upgrades" which seems to be a bit pain in the ass if you ask me Because we are all creator gods and manifesting a whole planet is way easy for us.. without this limitation framework.. and indeed this limitation framework is being stripped from us.. via "the shift"

Realistically.. I thought I was going to achieve it by the end of this year.. that may not happen.. but I would say at my ability to integrate light and energy etc. if it doesn't happen then I think by 2013 is likely.. understand I make no guarantee's it happens, it happens when it happens..

I think when I'm ready and can transition (theoretically) it'll just be like I dissolve from here and move over to there.. maybe.. (it's all theory )

[themaster]

Originally Posted by AaronA

Have you had consistent success with manifesting lesser goals that you now feel the your world is programmed in a sense? Just curious.

Yep, loa has proven to me as have my teachers.. given me the design for our universe.. it's the only things that fits the WHOLE bunch of little things that don't have answers.. you may have noted I make reference to that quite often (or not)

I call it the "theory of everything"

Explanations on ghosts, yeti, aliens, miracle healings, reincarnation etc. on and on

In terms of manifestation success.. I have had plenty.. have I done anything on the "miracle" level..?? not that I can recall.. I just watch as the things and as my reality makes sense from my viewpoint.. many of the things that have been world events.. were first in my thought processes.. I don't know how many people can make a claim to that.. but I can

If you really want to see how much I've changed.. you can just check my forum history.. 2 years ago I had maybe 500 posts.. didn't speak much.. ALG had like 2,000 posts

Part of my change is looking at and talking about myself.. now I don't talk 100% about myself because we have quite a few judgers her.. and I don't like to feed into their material

Basically, what I'm saying is I hold back on some of the things I know (somewhat) and some of what is myself

For example 2 years ago.. I wouldn't have offered the idea of the holodeck but I did with a thread called.. (make it 1 1/2 years since I checked the post date )

What is the shortcut?

And I offered this thread after lots of study.. still not knowing the shortcut.. I still don't except well it is for me to get happier and clear beliefs and definitions to rise into higher 4d..

When I offer the information I do.. it's because I'm offering a shortcut to what I know.. and what I had to do to create the thing I haven't even gotten yet That's where that information comes from.. and that's why I have it..

Often times enough people may think I share the information I do.. cause I'm a telemarketer.. or a repeating horse but my information is offered because people post about limitations in their lives.. and I give them a limitation answer/fix/perspective.. clear and simple.. it doesn't get me to the holodeck tomorrow.. but I reaffirm what I know, and how I know it and help myself and others all at the same time..

Now this is probably way to much information.. but as they like to say about me "wall of words"

(I very much enjoy talking about myself.. as you can see I can go on all day about it )

[AaronA]

Hi there TM,

Originally Posted by themaster

Yep, loa has proven to me as have my teachers.. given me the design for our universe.. it's the only things that fits the WHOLE bunch of little things that don't have answers.. you may have noted I make reference to that quite often (or not)

I call it the "theory of everything"

Hey, nothing wrong with having the complete model of the universe! And I guess I'll be learning more about your model one way or the other. As you can see, it certainly challenges my assumptions.

When I offer the information I do.. it's because I'm offering a shortcut to what I know..

Often times enough people may think I share the information I do.. cause I'm a telemarketer.. or a repeating horse but my information is offered because people post about limitations in their lives..

I didn't think you came across as a telemarketer. You seem to be a true believer in this, which I give you credit for. It seems like there are a lot of disingenuous folks out there. I have a pretty poor view of someone who sells workshops, DVD's, etc. proclaiming that people just need better imaginations to get whatever they want. It seems like the marketer in these cases should put their intentions where their mouths are. I'm much more in tune with folks like Steve who still see right action as playing a crucial role. Often times new age teachers pray on people's desperation, just as other religious teachers do in different settings. That's what makes my cynical about LoA, and new age & other religious stuff in general. But I do want to believe in something other than a completely mechanical universe where all my choices were fixed at the time of the Big Bang. I just don't know what all the physical universe allows for (and I own up to the fact that that is my current belief system; send some ghosts and yeti's my way and I'll be happy to recant.

If you find the keys to the holodeck send me a 4th D I'M and I'll meet you in the control room!

Aaron

[AaronA]

Originally Posted by themaster

If you say so.. I mean was ford extreme..?? or einstein? or "benjamin franklin"?? I've got this crazy idea..?? electricity.. go back to the pub you...

It is a very advanced form of thinking I grant you.. it stems from a simple idea "anything is possible" to "were all one, same energy, same being" etc.

Your extreme may have more to do with the idea that anything in our imaginations we can create..

Well, Ford built on automation of the past, and Franklin was a committed observer of the world. That's where we can achieve things in my eyes; by seeing the world and using what's there creatively. I do agree that this is "extreme" in my viewpoint. I think another curveball is that the "world as illusion" viewpoint espoused in LoA style thinkers still keeps an ego present, in that "goals" are still achieved. It seems to go against, say, Buddhism, which tries to dispel desire itself; though humans escaping desire may be as implausible as creating anything our imaginations can create.

I'd say that I'm a sympathetic skeptic, and I do believe that there can be something to learn in intention. So, please keep us posted on the search for the holodeck. My tour might bring me closer to the engine room, but we're on the same starship regardless.

Oh, and have you read Neal Stephenson's Anathem?

Aaron

[themaster]

Originally Posted by AaronA

Well, Ford built on automation of the past, and Franklin was a committed observer of the world. That's where we can achieve things in my eyes; by seeing the world and using what's there creatively. I do agree that this is "extreme" in my viewpoint.

I think your missing some factors now scientists work with things they can't even see on the subatomic framework.. all that is invisible.. yet, so is LOA to a certain extent.. and they were doing it before they were able to see atoms.. you can go well we have this math and this always cause's this..

Reality is constructed on a series of illusions.. even our science is founded on illusions.. "permission slips" if you will

If you could ask yourself if you were once a being that could construct whole planets.. how you could get yourself down to this..?? this limited within your powers.. now that's a undertaking of understanding realities foundations and the limitations in place

I only know that I was and still am a god.. because my teachers tell me so.. but more than that.. my teachers ring true to me and my truth.. maybe not for you.. but there is a idea called the Emotional Guidance System to point you to our truth.. positive = good and negative = a belief/definition blocking your truth.. simple system isn't it..?? very complexly ignored by our EGO it is..

Originally Posted by AaronA

I think another curveball is that the "world as illusion" viewpoint espoused in LoA style thinkers still keeps an ego present, in that "goals" are still achieved.

Why would want to go against the EGO..?? it's very much in our framework of reality.. and it's very much a part of us.. we are in the age of Aquarius.. coming out of the age of Picses (I'm a picses how about you? ) and as such that's all we've been doing for quite a while "thinking" and in that thinking we've gotten lost listening to our hearts and emotions..

There are a whole hell of a lot people on this forum into philosophy (I'm guessing like you) where does philosophy root from.. "thinking to understand our reality and what's going on"

I'm no longer into philosophy cause I moved right past that point.. but the ideas is if us "thinkers" would stop knowing we have to do it all, create it all etc. then we would use our internal god powers to take care of it all.. thus called law of attraction And also understand that there's other parts to ourselves who are thinking on our behalf constantly

We did not design this reality for "thinkers" we designed this reality much the way a child sees it or the way the animals see it.. it's just there was no plan in there to let the "EGO" rule the roost as/is what has happened.. energy and ideas are being sent in mass to the planet today to change this.. your are likely here because of one of those ideas/changes.. and good for you

The first stage is to become conscious of what your creating.. stage 2 is to work on the unconscious part of your creations.. or so as I see it as of this writing

Originally Posted by AaronA

I'd say that I'm a sympathetic skeptic, and I do believe that there can be something to learn in intention. So, please keep us posted on the search for the holodeck. My tour might bring me closer to the engine room, but we're on the same starship regardless.

I will.. (to the best of my ability.. the fun stuff should start in a week or so.. my teacher is going to teach me about the "rays of creation" building blocks for reality it seems )

Originally Posted by AaronA

Oh, and have you read Neal Stephenson's Anathem?

Nein.. sounds like philosophy

[AaronA]

Originally Posted by themaster

(regarding Anthem by Neal Stephenson
Nein.. sounds like philosophy

Actually it's a scifi book about multiple universes that I think might be up your alley. But there's a sort of philosophy in it, I guess.

Aaron

[AaronA]

Originally Posted by themaster

Why would want to go against the EGO..?? it's very much in our framework of reality.. and it's very much a part of us.. we are in the age of Aquarius.. coming out of the age of Picses (I'm a picses how about you? ) and as such that's all we've been doing for quite a while "thinking" and in that thinking we've gotten lost listening to our hearts and emotions..

Oh, and I'm a Libra, though I can't say I'm much of an astrologer. What's the significance of being a Pisces?

[themaster]

Originally Posted by AaronA

Actually it's a scifi book about multiple universes that I think might be up your alley. But there's a sort of philosophy in it, I guess.

Aaron

I dont know why I can't read much anymore.. I have some sort of anti-read philosophy these days.. I'd rather be doing!

But yes, sci-fi reading used to be up my alley..

Originally Posted by AaronA

Oh, and I'm a Libra, though I can't say I'm much of an astrologer. What's the significance of being a Pisces?

I have no idea about Libra.. but the books say us pisces are very analytical

[Norman]

Hi themaster,

Would you recommend Jim Self's Level II program? What's your take so far? Is it worth the money?

Thanks,

Norman

[themaster]

I've got a review written.. (didn't I tell you that? ) I just want to do some multimedia for it.. maybe I'll get it done tonight.. maybe.. remember I'm only half way through the program as of ohh about right now give or take.. I think it ends in October..

I think to be honest it is worth it.. if you can get in there yes.. I don't understand but "Jim" says you have to have permission and preparation to join up.. so I'm not sure if you spend 3-4 years studying new age like I did etc. if that means you're able.. you can just try and find out.. since alchemy level 2 is just about to start or has already I don't think you can get in until they automate it.. or until november the next one is my guess

Also level 1 master alchemy the DVD's jim has said is now out of date.. he just put them together I think he said january last year.. but now they have "old" information etc. (the tools work he said.. but energetically there not keeping up with where they need people to be)

[themaster]

Originally Posted by themaster

I don't understand but "Jim" says you have to have permission and preparation to join up..

I was thinking about this statement and what it means.. and I realized that I have a theory/idea what Jim means..

If this information resonates and you consider it valid and worth your time/money.. then it can be used by you.. but some of the people I've offered this idea too immediately and negatively take it as charlatan and scam artist that kind of thing.. aka it doesn't resonate.. and this doesn't mean it's imbalanced people only.. I could see some who's fine with themselves/methods and just doesn't validate this as a path for them.. (these may also be the people Jim is talking about)

So I guess my theory is.. if it resonates and you go forward you must be one of the few that is ready for this information/path etc.

There are based on what I learned last weekend other teachers who teach about octahedron's and such.. so you don't have to take Jim on for that.. you can find another teacher.. also I'm sure you could activate the octahedron yourself etc. (and then the next upgrade and the next one) I just won't pretend to tell you how.. exactly

When I did the Mastering Alchemy Level 2 mid (this/last weekend) I sat next to someone the first day who had watched the DVD's (so she told me) anyway.. I asked if at the end the journey to the "sacred heart" if she had, had a emotional reaction.. I was surprised to learn she had not.. because I did (when I did it in person w/ Jim and class and I wasn't the only one)

(this emotional reaction + me just feeling super happy after level 1 and like a "weight" had been lifted are what convinced me we had done something.. aka Jim knows what he's doing/has effect.. I continued to take him on as a teacher after that point to get my holodeck and that was the main reason why..)

But what I noticed was.. the next day Saturday.. I met up with her again and we were talking and she told me.. she had experienced something during the breathing exercise.. she let go of some negative entity that had been plaguing her she said.. and she was glad to let it go.. then we talked about mine.. lol

(this is information I'll probably skip on my review.. but here is something that won't be in there.. hidden away )

The reason I offer you this information is just to let you know.. surprise.. the DVD's have different effects on everyone.. if you do try them.. let me know if you had a "emotional reaction" because we're all different people and it might work on you

Would you recommend Jim Self's Level II program?

My first thing I would say to you is.. take Level 1 first.. have you taken level 1..?? you see jims gets re-occurring customers (so were clear the next level is optional and not required, just as level 1 is not required) based on the effectiveness with level 1.. I would tell you it's worthy experiment/thing to try if you're looking to be happier, manifest easier or make the unconscious, conscious!

(in case you're confused Level 2 comes after Level 1.. Level 1 costs $300 for the DVD's I do believe)

To put it another way I wouldn't have invested $1500 in Jim's program if I didn't think it had some merit

And that merit/aka payoff.. is coming up in this last 6 months.. the first 6 was like a pre-cursor to the meat.. and now the meat is here.. and we'll see if it's any good.. given it basically allows re-structuring somewhat of reality.. that may be good enough base to start with (as I will say in my review thread shortly.. according to Jim's 8th ray students (only 3 were in class or testified as such) the tools work but how they work is a different matter )

[beatnix]

Thanks for your review I’m surprised that Level 1 isn’t a prerequisite for Level 2...

Originally Posted by themaster

.. no more webinars till september it appears.. (I got the feeling from his last one.. they'd just keep going and going.. but ohh well )

And the sound quality of the April 22 webinar is a nightmare… It’s particularly interesting but my mind tends to wander off as it is so hard to understand. I downloaded quite a few webinars from the audio page – I’m worried they won’t be accessible anymore once the new website is up

Originally Posted by themaster

As he's teaching us about the 8 or 9 rays of creation or how many ever there are.. I'm starting to wonder if he can use them.. or if this stuff is just starting to get turned on.. I don't know.. I'll just find out when I get there..

I kind of lost him when he was talking about the different rays of creation (just listened to the April 8, 2008 webinar where he mentions them). Maybe you could explain…

Originally Posted by themaster

Also level 1 master alchemy the DVD's jim has said is now out of date.. he just put them together I think he said january last year.. but now they have "old" information etc. (the tools work he said.. but energetically there not keeping up with where they need people to be)

As he’s preparing his new ‘Pathways’ program and new website, maybe Level I will be updated...

[themaster]

Originally Posted by beatnix

Thanks for your review I’m surprised that Level 1 isn’t a prerequisite for Level 2...

It is.. if you got the impression it was otherwise.. my bad

That wasn't my review.. I'm guessing you can now guess what is

Writing that just finally got me motivated to post.. finally!

Originally Posted by beatnix

And the sound quality of the April 22 webinar is a nightmare… It’s particularly interesting but my mind tends to wander off as it is so hard to understand. I downloaded quite a few webinars from the audio page – I’m worried they won’t be accessible anymore once the new website is up

Yours and mine worry as well.. I haven't listened to part 2.. it sounds like it's bad..

Originally Posted by beatnix

I kind of lost him when he was talking about the different rays of creation (just listened to the April 8, 2008 webinar where he mentions them). Maybe you could explain…

See review

Originally Posted by beatnix

As he’s preparing his new ‘Pathways’ program and new website, maybe Level I will be updated...

My theory is.. maybe he'll go streaming.. maybe (there'll old fogies )

There was a comment at the conference about how there was no "young" people there below age 30, 25 etc. and there was explanations about that.. a bit.. the average age of a attendee is actually 40 to 50 I'd say..