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02-28-2007, 11:50 PM
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I’ve become friends with many folks here, and I’ve been trying a new technology that a few of you know about. Like lots of people here, I’ve been experimenting with LoA for a while. In my case, it’s been over 2 years, and I’ve had mixed results. Gurus I’ve met along the way have told me that I “have conflicting subconscious beliefs.” Huh? I’m a regular guy, and I’ve got a family and responsibilities. I don’t have time to sit around meditating and examining my subconscious for ‘conflicting beliefs.’ In December, I learned about this program that was designed to reach past your conscious mind, and actually give instructions DIRECTLY to your subconscious. No, it’s not subliminal technology. And it’s not binaural beat technology. It’s called PATHS, or Program Authoring The Human Subconscious, and it is currently blowing my mind…literally! I’ve been on it for two months, and so have several people from over at Powerful Intentions (forum tied to The Secret). We’ve all had astonishing results. Although I’ve only used it to make more money and get better sleep, others are using it to lose weight, heal injuries and reduce aging. There are various modules that you can use, depending on your goals. In October of last year, my business was starting to really go down the tubes. No matter what I did, nothing worked. I tried every LoA method I could find, as well as good old fashioned hard work. It was bleak. I heard about PATHS through a friend, and I decided to try it. The first month was so-so results for me, but everyone else I knew on PATHS was having unbelievable luck. So I re-upped for another month, and that’s when the magic began. I started to get calls and emails out of nowhere. Referrals poured in. A couple of unsolicited job offers appeared. It’s astounding. I got 2 calls today. Synchronicities are happening in undeniable ways. Some people may call it coincidence, but there’s way too many to call it chance. I didn’t want to post about this technology until I was absolutely sure it worked, because it isn’t free. But I’ve got to say, if you are having trouble manifesting ANYTHING, you may want to give this stuff a try. |
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03-01-2007, 01:54 AM
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Velvet, I don't know how long you've been LoAing, but I tried 5 techniques over a 2 year period. I was faithful and dedicated. Like a lot of people, I finally realized that there was something inside me that was fiercely resistant. When you've spent 2 years working on something and you haven't gained much ground, you take stock. In November/December, before I started PATHS, I was meditating 1-2 hours a day. Although I enjoy meditation, that's 1-2 hours away from my wife, kids and business. At one point, I thought, heck...10 hours a week is very valuable to me. Value-wise, it was worth a lot more than a PATHS module, which has given me a lot more results. | |
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03-01-2007, 04:36 AM
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03-01-2007, 04:43 AM
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?? Hmm Colonel, you've written some good posts in the past so you've got my curiosity quipped, but there really isn't anything on their website about PATHS at all. What is this PATHS thing? | |
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03-01-2007, 04:17 PM
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03-01-2007, 05:03 PM
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20 minutes, twice a day, is the maximum for most techniques I know. Anyway, I'm waiting for someone more familiar with EFT to chime in that a resistant subconscious can be addressed using EFT techniques (which don't cost nothin' and require no technology.) And yes, you can probably see a theme emerging in my replies--I really don't trust these techniques that tout themselves as the last refuge for people who've tried everything, require a large cash outlay, and that are sold on websites that seem as if they could be selling Amway products. | |
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03-01-2007, 05:17 PM
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I just have to ask this because I have been running online businesses since early 1996. What is the installation? What is installed? More importantly why does the installation cost so much? That price tag is a deal killer for 99.99% of the market. Pricing for intangible stuff like this is an area of endless fascination for me, that's why I'm curious. Why not offer a free installation and only charge a monthly subscription fee? With the Net you want to go for scalability. You kill off any hopes of benefiting from scalability with this pricing structure. * I make no value judgment on the product itself. Two regs here have given it a strong testimonial, so we have to be open minded about its effectiveness. |
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03-01-2007, 08:39 PM
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As far as my meditation goes, there are lots of people who meditate much longer than that. I agree that at some point, straight meditation will offer diminishing returns. My basic approach was 20 min med/visualization at 5am, another session after lunch, a late afternoon session, and then 1/2 hour before bed. Time would vary based on what else I had going on. I still don't think that's overkill, even if it was all straight meditation w/ no visualization. But to each his own... If you don't trust this stuff, don't try it. Pretty simple solution... | |
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03-01-2007, 01:42 AM
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I could get into the technical side of it, but that would make for a long, dry post. Plus, I think you're more interested in what kinds of results I've gotten. Correct me if I'm wrong... I own a payment processing business, and new, incoming business has slowed down over the past 2 years. Even though I've pumped up the effort and spent more on marketing, ROI has steadily decreased. Specific Examples of Unexpected Success While Using PATHS: Example 1 - There was one account that I had chased hard from early 2005 until last June. Finally I gave up. Last week they shot me an email out of the blue (8 months later) and said "let's do it." I signed them yesterday, and it's a huge account. Ex 2 - In August of last year, I had a business idea and I wrote a business plan for it. I established an infrastucture to execute the business idea, and started seeking capital. One by one, people said no. A couple of people said yes or maybe, but would never actually take action. I gave up in December. Just today, I received 2 calls from people who heard about the idea and want to invest. I needed $100,000 in capital, and that's what I've now got. Ex 3 - When I was scared my business was going to tank, I sent out the intention that a job is what I needed. A contact of mine arranged a government job, but I ended up declining it. 6 weeks into PATHS, 2 separate job offers cropped up out of nowhere, and both are high paying. (This is unusual, because I have no degree, and I wasn't actively seeking them.) I don't know if I'll take them. Ex 4 - A week ago, I was sitting in my car at a red light. A truck went by that said "Townsend." I thought, "I need to call my friend Bob Townsend, I haven't talked to him in a while." So I did, and he said "I was just reaching for the phone to call you. I've got a convenience store chain that needs ATMs." (I provide ATM services). And on and on. I know not everyone's a business owner, but over at PI, there are people who are just having money and jobs fall into their laps. Is this what you were asking? |
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03-01-2007, 04:19 PM
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I do not doubt for one minute your success or the success of others, but I have had similar or even more impressive success with a self-guided exploration of the LOA and I/M. Plus, I regularly get really good parking spots at the WalMart now. Do you have a CLUE how hard that is?? "pods"...you're kidding, right? (BTW...if you are not kidding, 'pods' is an offputting term. All kidding aside. Another word might be less so. Language is important, especially when describing a system of mind alteration. Pods + Mind alteration = Bad Sci Fi to a lot of people, me included.) Last edited by renie408; 03-01-2007 at 04:22 PM. |
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03-01-2007, 04:28 PM
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03-01-2007, 04:57 PM
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If it helps to heighten your alien suspicions, this is in the FAQ of the site:  Quote:
Oh and about the installation fee, if you search for PATHs on Google, you'll notice there are a number different domains that provide the paths program under different headers for example, Colonel's link has Path to Living presents... but there are other "presenters", like Energetix, at www.♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥: Program Authoring The Human Subconscious. So anyways, I'm getting at the point that the program is administered by different people, so I'm guessing the installation goes to them and the monthly fee goes to the PATH company. I found a PATH directory. So hopefully that helps people. By the way, I'm new on the forums but have been a reader of Steve's site for about a year. My welcome thread is right here. EDIT: So it seems that Angela Blessing, is a co-owner of the domain she so generously reviewed. Not saying this in a cynical way or anything, just noticed it. If the program works, and she's an administer of it, she deserves compensation. Last edited by CdnNix; 03-01-2007 at 05:02 PM. | |
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03-01-2007, 11:22 PM
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Disclaimer: This is not a comment on the effects of the product, nor is this a personal attack on anyone. I just want to share with you my impression. Thanks CdNix for doing the research and finding PATHS Directory | Program Authoring the Human Subconscious www.♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥: Program Authoring The Human Subconscious www.♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥: Program Authoring The Human Subconscious www.♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥: Program Authoring The Human Subconscious www.♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.com: Program Authoring The Human Subconscious .... Need I list more? I've seen this in some multi-level direct marketing products before. The owner of the website through which you sign up for the service will probably get a cut of your fees - just compare the urls when you buy the same product from two different websites to see the same company address but different distributor ids. That's why even though the pricing is totally ridiculous, it still has customers because the marketing message you receive would be very personal experiences from very motivated sellers, may it be from friend-of-friend, or a forum like this. To be fair, Colonel may or may not know about this scheme. In addition, if you look at the terms and conditions http://www.♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥/tandc.php, the company is based in Panama City. You know what that means if you ever have a monetary/legal dispute with the company. Also, if you're interested in who, Aaron Murakami, "a director with the company" (read: someone high up in the food chain), is, you can check out Aaron's Energetic Forum™ Profile Feel The Vibe | Top o' the Line Total Health Shoppe | Aaron Murakami Lastly, on a different level, I'd like to point out that LoA/IM is totally separate from spiritual growth. LoA/IM is just a tool - getting whatever one wants via LoA/IM doesn't necessarily mean one is moving towards enlightenment. This is the same as that someone who is psychic doesn't necessarily mean he/she is spiritual or enlightened. Cheers, Quote:
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03-02-2007, 08:45 AM
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Hi Angela, I'm impressed with your charisma and ability to shine the light no matter what comes your way. That is the only type of enlightened communication I would expect from someone coming to a personal development board such as this one that Steve Pavlina put together. I'll also answer some of the questions that have been raised concerning PATHS in this thread: ------------------- "wouldn't mind some in-depth technical information (especially about the actual subconscious delivery mechanism). " Some of that was addressed in a message I sent to a physicist and neurophysiologist that Greg posted. There is a link to RDT (rapid data transfer) on the FAQ on www.♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥: Program Authoring The Human Subconscious www.♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥: Program Authoring The Human Subconscious www.♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥: Program Authoring The Human Subconscious -------------------- "There's a reason why the subconscious lies below the conscious mind...who knows what's being programmed into you?" My response to people who have this kind of concern is to stop watching television, radio, etc... I understand these technologies very well and it is easy to use the main signal as a carrier wave to ride whatever you want on top of it so people watching tv will get it even if they don't know something is there other than the program they think they are watching. I am NOT implying this is in use by any clandestine groups or organizations, but the fact of the matter is, this is easy to do but people just assume tv, radio, etc... is perfectly safe. To me this concern on goes so far and if anyone has this concern in any real capacity, they would never watch tv, radio, listen to cd's or watch movies again. This is a very logical concept. ------------------------------------ The results Angela is getting is very common and we hear this every day from people around the world. There are some forums people discuss these experiences. I don't know if it would be proper to post a link to a forum diverting people away from here. If it is ok, I'll post it. --------------- "I have had similar or even more impressive success with a self-guided exploration of the LOA and I/M. Plus, I regularly get really good parking spots at the WalMart now. Do you have a CLUE how hard that is?? " This is a comparison to ONE person's experience after ONE day. ---------------------- "'pods' is an offputting term" The different program in PATHS are called "modules" or "programs" - both very well accepted terms in the industry ----------------------- "I saw the $34.95 and didn't think that was so bad. Then I saw the '$164.95' installation part. That's $200.00 (for the math impaired, I guess. I don't know why I felt compelled to add that part). Once you pay for the installation, do you just pay for the programs each month? And can you get your money back if you don't get the results you are looking for??" The FIRST month someone signs up, there are SETUP fees, not an "installation" fee. There is a lot of background programming work that needs to be done...extensive is more like it. AFTER the first month, the fee is $34.95 per month. If anyone uses less than 4 modules, there is a ONE TIME fee of $50 per module upgrade setup fee on top of the normal $34.95 monthly fee. The guarantee is for ONE module for ONE month only. That is enough for someone to "try" it. In my opinion, I believe this lets in the mind a possibility of failure. I've achieved incredible success in my life not from trying but doing. Yoda even teaches that in starwars! LOL With a guarantee, someone should just embrace it wholeheartedly. If it isn't to their satisfaction, they can request a refund. They do however have to actually log in and watch the modules and take spirulina...I recommend a minimum of 4grams daily for the first week or so. The brain needs a surplus of absorbable aminos to process what the subconscious mind is soaking up. Some might think this is just some other self help technology, but I assure you that it is very, very different. ------------------------------ Truth or Myth? PATHS Can: Be traced to alien technology (reverse engineered) Interesting question. lol "Not very professional but " I think if we can't even have a little humor then we are in worse shape as humans than it seems. We have actually been asked that by many people. ------------------------------- "what's with the 18 year old and up limitation" We had a 14 year old...I think he was 14...who used the self-esteem confidenct boosting module and after a few weeks, he stopped listening to his parents. Then we posted the "limitation" He became a little too confident. We have a girl 7 years old and one 4 years old. They are the youngest. A lot of request for academic module for school, etc... They work fine, but with parental permission is required. --------------------------------- That paths directory mentioned is an old directory of people who reached a certain "status". We are building a new one. -------------------------------- Angela Blessing is a mover and shaker in the Santa Cruz area. Very enlightened individual and so is her husband. She is an "affiliate" of PATHS like many other people. I have some messages that get sent out regularly to people who use PATHS and after about the 3rd week, I have a letter sent describing our affiliate program. If they're not happy with it by then, no use to have them tell others if they don't believe in it. -------------------------------- "I'm not sure where you learned your meditation technique, but 1-2 hours a day is overkill" "20 minutes, twice a day, is the maximum for most techniques I know." Overkill would be relative to one's own perspective. I used to meditate 6-12 hours a day 11 years ago when I was on my search and in no way was it overkill. I perfer to focus on overall strategies in my life and less focus on techniques. -------------------------------- "I'm waiting for someone more familiar with EFT to chime in that a resistant subconscious can be addressed using EFT techniques (which don't cost nothin' and require no technology.) " EFT can only do a little bit of what PATHS can do. PATHS can do everything EFT can do and more. This is why we have some EFT practitioners with their own PATHS website. We have medical doctors, psychologists, professors, business people, massage therapists, chiropractors, stay at home moms, etc... using and referring people to PATHS. --------------------------------- "I really don't trust these techniques that tout themselves as the last refuge for people who've tried everything, require a large cash outlay, and that are sold on websites that seem as if they could be selling Amway products" The common theme is obvious and I can understand your skepticism. It is so different there isn't a category for it yet. We are re-writing quantum physics with our breakthroughs and have to create some of our vocabulary to describe it. 1) It happened to be a last ditch effort for Greg and was successful. This is not everyone’s experience. It is however something most people are experiencing profound results beyond anything they have ever experienced in their lives with all other modalities, techniques, etc... 2) Large cash outlay is very subjective. With a $34.95/month fee, that is VERY VERY LOW. You don't realize but before a week ago, people always paid $200 PER MONTH for 4 modules month after month after month. Even with those prices, there has never been a problem having people sign up. We even have plenty of people paying $500/month for the custom modules. We recently dropped the price, so that it is $34.95 even for 4 modules. Compare that to $200/month. If someone sees a first month fee as an issue, they are not looking that it is only $34.95 per month after that. Average that over the 1st year and what is it? Average that in the 2nd year, what is that? Even lower because no new startup fees in the 2nd year. 3) Sold on the internet like selling Amway products? Scroll to the top of this forum and you will always see something SOLD ON THE INTERNET. This is 2007 I think you have to get used to the fact that over the years, more and more will be sold on the internet. This is just a fact of life. continued... |
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03-02-2007, 08:45 AM
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"I just have to ask this because I have been running online businesses since early 1996. What is the installation? What is installed? More importantly why does the installation cost so much? That price tag is a deal killer for 99.99% of the market." There is no installation but there is a setup fee. The pricing as it is has caused explosive growth. As I mentioned before, people were paying $200 a month for 1 module month to month. Now $34.95/month after the 1st month. That is pocket change compared to what it was. With the setup, there is extensive work behind the scenes and just because this is a technology doesn't mean everything is automated. That touches on some proprietary aspects of our technology I will not discuss. I will tell you that when you sign up, there is pesonal info we need. Name, birthdate, birthplace, etc... That info is so personal to you, your subconscious really identifies with it. We take that and run it through our technology and embed it into the presentations. Consciously, you cannot see it but your subconscious mind makes it out and says "THAT'S ME!" and accepts the modules. If someone steals your password and thinks they are benefitting by watching it, their subconscious mind says, "THAT ISN't ME" and puts up a block refusing the modules. The very first time you see the modules, only so much is there, after a couple days, there is more like the security function embedded (personal info), etc... It is not an easy process but we are streamlining it to make it easy on us. We have dropped the renewal price to a bare minimum and be ok. So with scalability, no issue...we were doing very well with the old higher pricing and with the new pricing, we can hardly keep up with it. This is not like anything else and it takes education to teach people about it since there is nothing else like it. ------------------------------- I'll post some testimonials from the other boards so you can see what some others are experiencing. I can post my own but some here seem to think that benefiting financially has an effect on what I will say. Someone posted my profile link. I am a real person with real results. I walked away from a health food store I owned generating a good 6 figures to dedicate full time to PATHS. I didn't sell the store, I just closed it down because I didn't have the patience to wait for a buyer. I'm just liquidiating inventory in chunks. Anyway, I'm the "marketing director" for PATHS...that is my official position with the company and I do some development. I have a lot of experience with very advanced technologies based on applied quantum physics. ------------------------------- "really fast messages" that we can't tell you about because it's secret, doesn't cut it" www.♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥: Program Authoring The Human Subconscious People have been drinking Coca Cola for years not knowing what their secret recipe is and no time soon will they be revealing it either. You can read more in the newsletters: Energetic Science Ministries™ | Newsletter Archives And: www.♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥: Program Authoring The Human Subconscious "I was reading up on PATHS a day or so ago, but was put off because it seemed to me that you can't actually purchase the product without purchasing your own branded sales website to go with it" The product is fully customized to each individual and is dynamic…there is nothing to take home….it remains on our servers, with access granted on a monthly basis as one pays for it. Each time someone logs on, our hardware interfaces with the presentations so it must be something that is online and has live streaming access to our servers. Unlike a CD, or anything else. Many people have a yahoo or gmail email account, those reside on their servers and cannot be downloaded for permanent use on their computer. This is very well accepted. We have a lot of affiliates who approach us telling us they want a site. Most are very satisfied users who afer a few weeks learn there is such a thing as an affiliate program. Each affiliate has their own client base they refer to their own website. All sites are under PATHS. The only requirement for someone to become an affiliate is that they use the technology and believe in it, otherwise, there is no point in being an affiliate. The cost? ZERO. We pay for the domain name (you can see they are NOT subdomains)...they are real domains names...truly hosted as their own website on servers that we own. It is a short application and the site is up and running in 24-48 hours. ---------------------------------- "It just seems to me that if it were that easy and it were real, we would be using this method in schools, etc." This will be a reality in the future. We only brought it to the public last March. Also, just because something "should be" doesn't mean it is. We have alternatives to petroleum but the US isn't embracing them...we should be but aren't. We have several schools watching students on PATHS...they are interested in developing pilot programs. ------------------------------------ "To get me to blow $200 there would have to be signed endorsements from the Presidents of MIT, Harvard, Yale, and the Pope." I would not “blow” $200 even if those people endorsed something. I would however spend $ to get a value received, regardless of anyone’s endorsement…I have a brain and do not need others to think for me and tell me what to do. Every one you noted is heading organizations with VERY SERIOUS vested interest in virtually everything they promote. Follow the dollar and you will see this is common practice. ----------------------------------- "Are these 'effects' permanent? One of the only things I don't like about these kind of thing is that you have to rely on them forever. What if you don't do it for a few months? Will you start thinking you're fat again? Or does this permanently reconfigure your subconscious?" This is a great question! This depends on the module. If it is something like the anti-aging module, it is intended to be used long term. The self-esteem module - depends on the person...some people use it 1-2 months and never need it again, some need it 4-5 months depending on how deeply embedded the negative thought patterns are. Once people establish whatever the "positive way of being'" is for them and having it being dominant for them, the module isn't needed anymore. Most people just use other modules to work on other areas of their lives. There are physical modules (mostly used as needed), mindset modules - until they are where they are at as well...some people use a booster after ever 3-4 months, which is optional, etc... Everyone is different and we don’t pretend this is some magic bullet that cures all. |
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"if someone had truly discovered the so-called "secret code to the human subconscious" wouldn't there be some scientific references to back up this claim?" We can point to various pieces of references that back our technology and science, but there is nothing that has it in whole. Besides, giving credit to the establishment doesn't hold much credit because if it had bearing on the legitimacy of something, these people wouldn't have succeeded: Bill Gates - college dropout Ted Turner - clowning around at tv station interviewing his DOG on television! Henry Ford - 4th grade education...he just told people it could be done The list is endless as many of you know... ----------------------------- "So far, their "universal translator" is working perfectly ~ a bunch of people are buying into this gibberish! I'm only going on about it because I'm fascinated by it and hungering for some facts!" Whatever comes out the "translator" is not in English and looks unrecognizable. Do we honestly expect that the innate language of the subconscious mind is English? lol It is a fascinating technology and we are only scratching the tip of the iceburg. If I told you what we were working on behind the scenes, it would blow your mind!! ---------------------------------------- "just compare the urls when you buy the same product from two different websites to see the different distributor ids" For PATHS, there are no affiliate distributor ID's. There are just different domain names. The modules offered, websites available, etc... are all virtually identical and we purchase the domain names, etc... for all the distributors. "Also, if you're interested in who, Aaron Murakami, "a director with the company", is, you can check out Aaron's Energetic Forum™ Profile Feel The Vibe | Top o' the Line Total Health Shoppe | Aaron Murakami" Yes, I'm a real live human being not afraid to communiate with people. I believe in what I do, I answer questions, I'm accessible and and more. "I'd like to point out that LoA/IM is totally separate from spiritual growth." I see no difference personally because I look at people holistically that each part of someone's life cannot be separated from another piece. LOA in itself is a spiritual practice in my opinion and lets people get in tune with their environment. --------------------------------- "LoA/IM is at most a metaphysical tool that help you achieve what you desire," Metaphysical tools are innately joined at the spiritual root for each individual. ---------------------------- "but it's just a means, not the end" Whatever we do in our lives, business, spiritual, etc... every aspect will be in the jurisdiction of LOA consciously or unconsciously. One need not consciously apply LOA techniques, strategies or tools in order for the concepts of the so-called law of "loa" to be in effect. ----------------------------- "This is the same as that someone who is psychic doesn't necessarily mean he/she is enlightened." I believe you are correct. But the effect of "LOA" applies to enlightened and un-enlightened. ---------------------------- "the home page is disgusting. "Click here to get a better life" links and such. Yuck! I can't believe people are bying this. It sure is a sleazy homepage for the elite group having discovered the greatest secret during the history of mankind. Logicseeker, if your name holds true you understand that your perspective of what is on the homepage is just that...YOUR perspective. --------------------------- "however I find it strange that now the directory I had found has all of a sudden been updated to redirect you to the energetic ministers site" What is strange about it? I saw a post earlier about the PATHS directory...it was not a complete directory, updated, or anything. I personally redirected it to the ESM site because it is more updated, more complete (with PATHS affiliates to have met certain qualifications), etc... ESM homepage is NOT some homebase where everything is organized from. It is simply the company PATHS. I personally took part in organizing ESM. I believed there was a necessity for an organization to educate people on these things... |
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03-02-2007, 08:46 AM
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"No, but I'm going to go get some tonight. I thought I had enough from my Spiru-tein (breakfast smoothie) but that only has 65 mg and they recommend 1500mg! Thanks for the cheering." I recommend 4 grams...you need enough and 1.5 grams is on the low side. I'll post links later in regards to the spirulina and why it is necessary. ------------------------------- "The first thing that caught my attention about their website is that they are using 2CO as their credit card processor. This is basically a step up (or in some cases down) from PayPal. " Paypal? Owned by ebay and is a very large and respected company. $Personally, I don't appreciate paypal because of the experiences I've had. 2CO has a very good record for having incredible service, secured, etc... ------------------------------- "they have an absurd amount of domain names registered pointing to their products" ROLFMAO - hehe... this is like complaining to McDonalds for having so many restaurants. LOL!!!! -------------------------------- "Shouldn't a legit company simply use one main domain and build its traffic from there?" I personally favor other software in certain instances but Microsoft is considered legit globally and nobody can dispute that. You might think that they have ONE domain name, but the fact is, their software is distributed by THOUSANDS of domain names through other website owners, etc... do you understand that even Harvard teaches multi-level-marketing? lol The many domain names are by "distributors" who are getting the word out. It is their business and they can come up with any name they want. -------------------------------- "The website proudly states that PATHS is endorsed by the Energetic Science Ministries. The website for the Energetic Science Ministries (Energetic Science Ministries™) was registered on February 11, 2007, and by the same folks in Panama City, Panama that registered most of the other PATHS websites -- including ALL of the websites for their "testimonials"." And this has to do with what???? This is like chastising a Nissan dealership owner for driving a Nissan...LOL! That has nothing by the way to do with any testimonials. --------------------------------- "Plus the administrator for all of those websites uses a "hushmail.com" email account. What are they trying to hide with a hushmail account." It is the highest encryption free email account available. It is not for anonymous purposes. Regardless of this, you know my name, where my profile is, how to reach me, etc… I have nothing to hide and either does the company. You contact us and you actually reach a living, breathing, live human being. The PATHS websites are hosted on OUR own multiple servers for redundancy purposes. The ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.org and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ are both hosted on the popular Godaddy network under one of their resellers…they are the largest host in the world. If the company was trying to hide something, they would also pay $1.99 (less that $2) to GoDaddy in order to make our info anonymous. Like I said, here I am, ask what you want. ----------------------------------- "Could this system be having a "placebo effect" on its buyers? " I won't get into a deep debate here about the reality of consciousness and our interaction with things externally, but pigs will fly before you have a chance to show that there is anything in the world that can be separated from someone's perception or expectation. It applies wholeheartedly to medications and EVERYTHING in your entire lives, get rich quick seminars, self-help books, LOA gurus wisdom, etc... basically EVERYTHING... You read the testimonials and remember people went to their doctors and they are no longer taking medication, they are no longer taking as much insulin, etc… _________________________________ "Nice work on the research. Now, it's so much so less important to get technical answers, because they'll be just like the rest of the material I've seen. Made up." You have never seen material like our or what we are about. If you don't want to try PATHS, that is fine, but please don't pretend to have some insight on what we are about based on a few hours research by a few people who have never bothered to contact anyone at the company to have a personal conversation. Not one person here has sent me a personal message asking me anything and my personal profile with a private message send option has been there all day. We will soon see who has diligently researched anything or is just "making stuff up." ------------------------------------- "If this is such high tech stuff, then getting the preferred refresh rate should of been considered in the set up. Was it?" Interesting questions. Refresh rate has nothing to do with it, but I'm impressed with even thinking that deep. Because of the nature of our technology it is beyond that and out of the box of what most people would think. Basically, monitor refresh rate has nothing to do with it. |
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03-02-2007, 08:50 AM
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Synchronicity has been a facination of mine for many years. It is just one of those things that sticks in the mind as being something that is just too weird to just be some chance occurance. Sometimes synchronistic events are just written of as coincidence but personally, I believe a great majority of people believe there is something else at play. The purpose of this brief paper is to explain in simple terms not only the effects but a simple explanation of the mechanics of what is really behind the fascinating occurances of synchronicity. The below diagram is a simple model of synchronicity that shows the actual mechanism is.  The "Law of Attraction" or LOA works by the concept that whatever we think in our minds will be projected into the universe and the universe will cause those thoughts to attract like events, people, object and anything else that is similar back towards the person thinking the thoughts. So, what is really happening? The model as described in the illustration above is based on a conscious thinking mind, a subconscious mind and the collective unconscious mind. The conscious thinking mind is the thinking thing that we use to actively think thoughts. The subconscious mind is an automatic mind that takes input and automatically does thinking on its own in order to make reason out of the input data. It is also the go-between for the conscious and unconscious minds. The collective unconscious mind is the infinite mind that contains all information in the past, present and future everywhere. There are four people in the diagram listed as person A, B, C, & D. The C person isn't listed as C but is the person at the top of the diagram. These thinking minds are represented by the circles closest to the middle. The semi-circles are the subconscious minds and the outer circle is the collective mind, which is known by many names. The dotted line on the outside indicates there is no border to its reach. If person A has a desire X, which represents a person to attract, an incident, customers for a certain product or anything else, their thinking mind is obviously aware of it. For this example, let us say that the desire is a specific car they are looking for; A 1990 Honda Accord 5 speed with 100,000 miles or less for $1000 or less. The color blue is a plus. The subconscious mind takes this desire X and "plants" it into the collective unconsciousness. X not only represents the overall desire but every detail attached to the desire. The subconscious mind of every single human is actively scanning the collective unconsciousness or the matrix for anything that it resonates with. Person C happens to have a 1990 Honda Accord and it is a 5 speed. It has about 110,000 miles and is $950 and it is dark blue. Person C's subconscious mind locks onto desire X from person A. Person A and person C's subconscious mind's are locked onto each other. Now what about the synchronicities? The subconscious minds of A and C will INFLUENCE their conscious thinking minds to do whatever necessary to have them gravitate towards each other. C's mind knows that person A is in resonance with their desire to sell the car. A's mind knows that person C has the optimum match for their desire to buy a car. Person A is influenced by their subconscious mind to get in a car and go to grocery store 123 to look at the bulletin board. There are many stores they will go checking at but at a particular time and location is where they just happened to "choose" to go to. Person C is influenced by their subconscious mind to get in a car and drive to grocery store 123 to post a flyer about their car for sale. There are other stores that C will go to but at a particular time and location at this store is where they just happened to "choose" to go to. A and C walks in and goes to the bulletin board at the same time. Person A is scanning the flyers. Person C posts their flyer. Person A sees this and is amazed at what a profound synchronicity. The exact car with the exact details and price and everything else are on that exact flyer. They shake hands and make a deal and go home smiling at such a wonderful experience. Person C's subconscious mind INFLUENCED their conscious mind to choose what they chose to make it happen and so did person A's subconscious mind. It is important to realize that each person is sending this signal into the collective at a certain strength. Just thinking it is maybe a strength of 10 for example. If they apply "Law of Attraction" principles such as Think & Grow Rich or The Secret Movie principles, it may be a strength of 25. If they really, really get into cranking up strong emotions, meditations, and so on, it may be 50. The stronger this signal strength, the more effective the effort will be at having other subconscious minds in the collective lock on to your desires to attract them or events to you. The stronger the signal, the stronger the ability to manifest with your mind. Some tools may even boost this strength up to 100 or more. These numbers are just as an example and do not reflect actual power indicators but the concept only. Anyway, just something that is food for thought. Sincerely, Aaron |
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03-02-2007, 09:34 AM
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Just a few testimonials...there are plenty more online in different forums and YES you can ask them questions... -------------- After one week on the PATHS program (business) I've kicked the "qualified" issue in the BUTT and sent it flying into outer space! am attracting many more auditions then before. I have had 5 in the past week, that’s a really good number. I have been on PATHS for almost five weeks and have had amazing results. Most of these results have been posted in other forums or threads but I post again here so it is easy to find. First, I will talk about the sleep booster which comes built into each module. Previously, I had extreme difficulty sleeping an entire night. For the past five years or so, I would wake up around midnite and be up for two hours at least. I would often go downstairs and watch TV or get on the computer, whatever, in order to get sleepy again. I cannot remember the last time I slept the entire nite, unless I was on vacation. By the beginning of my third week on PATHS, I was sleeping soundly the entire nite! If I wake up to use the bathroom, I fall back asleep again imediately. My husband Raymond just started PATHS last Sunday. His problem was waking up too early - around 3-4 am. He is now sleeping the whole nite and waking up at 5:30 am (which is his intent). I have also been on the business productivily module (can't think of the exact name right now). My goal with this one was to make enough money in unexpected income to pay for my first month of PATHS. I did this easily in the first week. Since, I have had several new customers (I am in healthcare recruitment advertising). None of these customers have been huge, but they have all been new. I have been calling them for more than six months and just now they are beginning to take and return my calls. The weight loss module has been amazing for me. I have lost a total of 12 pounds without even "trying." I am not on any diet. However, I am finding I am naturally choosing healthier foods and my portions have gotten way smaller - in some cases half of what I used to eat! I just started the muscle-building module last nite. In the middle of the nite I had a bad leg cramp. Now, you may ask what is so good about that? I have not had a leg cramp in the middle of the nite since I used to work out all the time at the gym - many, many years ago. I did not work out yesterday, just watched the module. I also just started the anti-gravity module yesterday. Raymond started it last week, and we both agree his skin looks so much healthier. He has sun damage to his skin (we are both sun-worshippers) and also has dry skin with lots of fine lines and wrinkles. His face now does not appear to be dry and the fine lines around his eyes definitely seem softer. Raymond has always been the biggest skeptic. However, when he saw the results I was getting, he decided to try PATHS himself. He is very pleased so far. First I noticed that my meditations became deeper and more profound. It is like I am lit up from within....I also immediately noticed that my skin began to look more radient. By the second week my pores began to shrink and by the third week I noticed the tiny lines around my eyes began to vanish... AND... I WAS taking an antibiotic a few times a week for the past 2 years to keep my bouts of adult acne at bay. Since I started with the PATHS, I have not needed to take any at all! I make my living as an artist and have been painting in watercolors for the past 20 years. Watercolors are very unforgiving and every step in the process needs to be planned. This means that each painting takes many, many hours to complete. When I started PATHS, my artwork took on a completly new and spontaneous direction with acrylics and I manifested a month-long gallery exhibit which opened last week. Within two days, 3 paintings were sold and yesterday I found out that another 2 were sold! I still love to paint my watercolors, but this new direction allows me to satisfy other artistic desires within myself as well as the desires of a different group of buyers. I also notice that I am more in the Now while I am painting, and, in general. And my MOOD! WOW is my mood ever great! And consistantly so as well! I LOVE it! I am also noticing that little things do not irritate me as they used to. Before PATHS I would be inclined to let out one of those "long suffering sighs" if I noticed that my husband would do one of those "manly" things...You know....Like leaving his dirty socks on the floor or "forgetting" to sponge down the crumbs on kitchen counter after making himself a sandwich. Now things like that don't bother me at all and I have found myself actually whistling as I clean up after him! And now the sighs that I let out are not at all "long suffering".... if you know what I mean.... ; ) Also...my sense of humor seems to be enhanced... I had my husband on the floor laughing last week. That was fun! I am smiling just about all the time now and I am constantly feeling Grateful for EVERYTHING! I started on the Successful Living 1 module just before Christmas 2006. I was at a pretty low point in my life, because I hadn't had a job for 6 months and my funds had run out, bills were piling up and 2 teenage boys to look after. 2 weeks into the module I had manifested a job. But there was an other problem, transport. My oldest son, Lucas is on the ProJunior Surfing Circuit in Australia and needed my car to get to his competitions. Yes the module did it again for me, solved my problem. Next to the place where I got the job, is a car dealer and he gave me a car which I can pay off. How cool is that!! After my first month I decided to renew SL 1 and also get the Insight and Intuition module. Well that made a difference straight away. I am dreaming again. I hadn't dreamt in something like 20 years, except on the odd occasion, but now I dream just about every night. I also play this little game at work. As I work in a petrol station I always try to guess now which pump the car that is pulling in is going to use. And yes, I am right 95% of the time. Another little side effect of the SL1 was also very pleasant: I had been a pot smoker for 30 years and now I just stopped. It wasn't my intention to stop, I just did. Now how good is that. The first night after I viewed my theater for the first time, I had a very vivid dream and remembered it for the first time in a long time. This was so astounding to me that I emailed Pamela or Ruth (can't remember which) and told them about it!I've been dreaming and remembering them every night since. Also, I started to just "know" stuff. Little stuff really, like what different peoples' motivations were and what choices to make that were best for me, etc. I am also getting marketing ideas for my business and website ideas are coming more easily. Another weird thing is that I'm having strange compulsions to organize everything and coming up with creative ways to do that. It's weird, because I'm not the most (physically) organized person , if you know what I mean. So....cool. That's handy. I also used to think that my business (launching my own brand of bottled water) was so much bigger that I was, but now I think that it's really managable and can see how it can be broken down into smaller, doable chunks. As for weight loss, I've only lost a couple of pounds, but I do notice that when I work out, I feel really good about it, better than before and I'm no longer scrounging around in the kitchen between supper and bedtime, my weakest time of day. Always a plus......... I am on PATHS for 5 days now. I have seen amazing results. I am on a module to shed pounds. I am the kind of guy who cleans my plate always. I was raised thinking that if I didn't, a poor child on the other side of the world would suffer because of left over food! Last night, we went out for dinner. I was actually a bit taken back when I noticed i left food on my plate. I stopped eating when I was full. I didn't think about it, it was not a concious choice,I was not trying to co-operate with PATHS, I just stopped eating. To some of you who have not strugged with weight (I am 35 lbs overweight) this may seem silly or trite. To me it was a bit remarkable. This morning I was invited to a breakfast. I would usually enjoy the eggs but it would be a sign of the apocolypse if I by passed the danish. I did, and did'nt really notice til I sat at my computer to write this. As I mentioned before, each time I've contacted them (thinking that what I was asking was a long-shot or would be inconvenient and/or not possible at all), I have had such warm, loving - and speedy - responses, it made my heart soar : ) I totally agree...I was even so excited that I gave the wrong e-mail details in my initial set up - good grief!!...and it was sorted before I even logged out from the PATHS site.. Sweet! |
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03-02-2007, 11:13 AM
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Colonel or Angela, I wish you the best with this product. My curiousity just won't go away. I don't mean to ask questions that sound negative, just looking for a little more info. Perhaps one of you could do this for all of us. While you are watching one of your modules, press Alt-Print Screen simultaneously. This will take a screen capture of whatever is on the screen at the time. Then when you are done watching your module, open Publisher, PowerPoint, Word, Photoshop or just about anything and Paste the screen capture into the program you opened. Then save what you have pasted as a picture and upload it here. I would be very interested to see what the "translated subconscious" language looks like. Plus if there is any information on what research was done to find this "translated subconscious" language I would love to see that as well. |
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03-02-2007, 11:27 AM
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P.S. I am sure Aaron is going to answer my request by telling me that looking at one screen capture will tell you nothing about the product. That the "translated subconscious" requires a dynamic coherent message that you only get through multiple images being shown to you in succession or something. That is fine, I am still curious as to what it looks like though. By the way, as I am sure you know Aaron, the people who tend to ask the most and "toughest" questions in the beginning will often be your biggest proponents and marketers once convinced. I'd love for you to convince me, believe me I would. |
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03-20-2007, 09:03 PM
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| Yes, this is in the dreaded Blue Font of Moderation. I would like to say here and now, that regardless of the validity of a product, personal attacks, whether against members of this forum or of people who will probably never see this thread, are not tolerated. This thread has been getting close to that point, and may have even crossed it... So, this thread is on hold for 24 hours, with the suggestion to all parties involved to get your egos out of the debate. It will be re-opened at 3pm Mountain Daylight time (GMT -6) tomorrow... (If I don't re-open it, send me a PM and I'll get it as soon as I notice.) |
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03-23-2007, 10:14 AM
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To any of the Paths creators or distrubutors- Why is there a text overlay on all of the modules? It would seem that having the 'paths' text would dilute the strength of the key words, because the mind is being exposed to several layers of stimuli, and makes it harder to differentiate between relevant words and filler layers. If you already have a photo base, especially with the nature pictures, the mind seems to be already open and in passive mode, and open to the key words. Same goes for the audio, why do you have several layers? In many binaural beats products, there is the base and a static sound if necessary, but it seems like you have many more layers. Why don't you reduce it down to only what's necessary, to make the focus words more powerful? |
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03-29-2007, 01:17 AM
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Aaron, Namecalling and personal insults are unacceptable on these forums. As this is the second time that members have become less than civil with one another on this thread, we're going to go ahead and close it. If anyone would like to post personal experiences with PATHS, please do so here. |
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