PATHS - Unbelievable Results

[TheColonel]

Originally Posted by Jm4362

Someone said, "Once I started gobbling spirulina... things started kicking in."

I wonder how much of the effect is due to the spirulina, and how much to PATHS?

I had that discussion with a buddy of mine who started the same time I did. We started off both taking 1500mg/day. He started getting results in about a week. He never changed his dosage, so we ruled that theory out.

For me, good results seem to occur in the 8-10g/day range. For him, 1.5g seems to do just fine.

[Pagoda]

I have been thinking the same thing about the spirulina. I volunteer to be the control group.

I will start taking spirulina and not do anything else. You started with 1.5 g per day, is that what PATHS suggests? I want to start with what they suggest?

Psuedo Science is fun!!

[m0vingon]

This is one study that i have seen cited regarding renal stones and spirulina.

Entrez PubMed

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by wolfgang

@Aaron,
Was just wondering if the PATHS product could run as a complete subliminal program on my work PC. Is there a version that would get the same benifits that I could use while at work at looking at my PC all day long? Or is it also that I have to gaze at a certain a full screen image that the program generates and sort of meditate? It just sounded like some were using a black screen so it seems like it could be done on my computer as I work.

What about mobile versions? Is there effort to make something that could be "offline" and run on a mp3 player or phone screen?

I wondered if you have come across DNA activation and if PATHS does something DNA activation claims to do? Or maybe that DNA stuff is too wacky to be real.

Hi Wolfgang, it must be used online by logging in fresh each time. When you log in, our system immediately embedds the universal language programming into the video/audio presentation. Each time you log in, it is about the same thing but done different..meaning the instructions could be mixed up in different order, etc... so the subconscious mind doesn't get "numb" to the effect or "static". so you can log in from any computer in the world virtually with your name/pw and get it from home or work.

We don't do anything with DNA because there are too many unknowns. Maybe in the future.

Take care,
Aaron

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by m0vingon

Seeing as most research into subliminal effects either discredits the fact or is inconclusive,

So, here's my experience thus far: Last night I ran the program for the first time. It's just an image with a pulsating "light" and some rather obscured letters moving around in the background. The audio sounds exactly like a self-hypnosis track I have from another source and I presume comprises the "improved sleep" aspect of the PATHS program.

After running the "show" I felt the same as I do when i run a deep sleep self hypnosis track- very relaxed, sleepy, and calm. I went to bed but had that unnerving experience of the brain being very awake while the body is asleep. It took a good 45 minutes for my brain to quieten down- which is very rare for me.
My sleep was riddled with very vivid dreams about experiences I've had, people from my distant past (unpleasant people), and tasks that I need to complete. (aka taking out the garbage )
Today was a typical day. No massive insights, no profound boost in self confidence, productivity, mood, energy, or anything really. And this is in spite of the fact that I am actually LOOKING for an effect, and as we all know, if you look you will generally find something.
So, thus far results are chalked up to a strange sleep experience and lots of general curiosity. They claim that the program is progressive, so I suppose that means that I should have a different experience after watching it next week- it's a once a week thing.
In the interim, I'll continue to keep you all posted on my experience.

Hi MovingOn,

The study on subliminals in maketing on a movie screen to buy more coke and popcorn is still quoted showing how great subliminals are. It was admitted years later the numbers were cooked so the entire study was a fraud and did not results in higher sales.

What you visibly see on the screen with PATHS is not where the technology is at...it is what you cannot see. Turn off the screen and just play the sound .the programming is in the audio as well.

The sound that you hear is also not where the technology is at..it is what you cannot hear. That sounds is very very simple binaural beat frequencies to help entrain the brainwaves down towards delta simply for listening pleasure. I have a blind chiropractor friend who obviously can't see it and the modules work incredibly well for him.

Subliminals such as flashing words, etc... are truly not subliminal since the conscious mind can notice something is there. That isn't subliminal. The brainwave cd's with affirmations playing at low volume in the background are also not subliminal..can hear something so not subliminal. There is silent sound technology where affirmations, suggestions, etc.. can be cranked up to a high frequency above the hearing range and can't consiously be heard but the subconscious mind makes it out just find...that is subliminal and technically PATHS is subliminal since what does the work is invisible to the eye and ear.

Your brain was probably racing for a bit because it is taking in millions of affirmations relating to your modules..not sure what you are on but if you post then here, I'll tell you what you can expect. Realistically, some people should expect 1-3 months for different mindset changes...some people do experience profound transformation in the first couple days and unfortunately some people get unrealistic expectations for themselves if they happen to be a slower responder.

Also, do not underestimate the necessity of spirulina or afa algae. Please take a minimum of 4 grams daily..maybe 2 before breakfast with water on empty stomach and same before lunch. Your brain isn't used to creating that many connections and you will get bogged down and tired if not enough absorbable aminos to make the neurotrasmitters and aminos to build dendrites.

Take care and looking forward to your experience.

Aaron

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by Angela

I've been getting a weird feeling in my stomach, too, but I wouldn't describe mine as "sick" -- it comes when I'm making a decision about food or drink, and it feels like something is kind of twisting away from unhealthy choices, and even alcohol. It was unusual for me not to want to order a beer yesterday out in the hot sun. I've been craving vegetables, but my normal urge for sweets is nowhere to be found. Also I've got much more of an urge to choose water than any other drink. Despite drinking lots of water (3 liters a day), I feel thirsty all the time.

By the way, I've lost 2.5 pounds since I started on Wednesday.

Hi Angela, this is great. Actually measuring inches is a more accurate way to see if you are losing fat mass.

The craving healthier foods is typical on the weight loss module. Also, if you choose to, you can have the beer or anything else you want. This shows ultimately the choice is yours.

If someone was forced to do it against their will, it will just cause a lot of cognitive dissonance...inner conflict...and will results in more blocks being put up reinforcing the fact they don't want to change making it worse.

Take care,
Aaron

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by m0vingon

Again, it was a night of many vivid dreams, many of which I could recall clearly when I woke this morning. As for the waking thing, I am certainly nowhere near waking at the time that I have programmed into my PATHS theater. On the contrary, I have been oversleeping these last 2 days. My energy is very low, but I am also battling a fever and a sore throat. And I thought all that spirulina was supposed to help me stay healthy and energetic

Of course, due to the nature of my little experiment, I am very conscious of every little thing. I certainly am not minimizing any effects, if anything I'm potentially attributing basic events to changes brought on by this program. I am interested to see the email that comes at the one week mark that is meant to remind me to watch the theater again and asks a series of questions meant to help me see the effects of PATHS in my life.

I am really glad that people are seeing profound changes on this program, but thus far I am not one of them. Perhaps my results are a-typical?

The one caveat of this process is that I feel unable to pursue any other personal growth attempts so that they don't confound my pseudo-(un) scientific examination of the PATHS program. No meditation, no affirmations, no nothing for a whole month is going to be hard for me!

If you don't mind, please post what modules you are using. If not, no problem. I'd recommend watching the modules 3 times a week and as policy, we will start recommending that company wide. We have too many people telling us they get better results if they do that...we do have people watch it 3 times a day 7 days a week and that is ok but it is meant to be a time saver so that wouldn't be necessary.

If you have a fever and sore throat, you could have been getting tired from that building up or you might not be taking enough spirulina.

Many people start nodding off at the time they want to go to sleep. the subconscious mind is a perfect timekeeper and knows to start getting your brainwaves to a lower state when desired.

Thanks,
Aaron

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by Jm4362

Someone said, "Once I started gobbling spirulina... things started kicking in."

I wonder how much of the effect is due to the spirulina, and how much to PATHS?

Hi JM,

Literally, this is no joke..we have too many people experiencing mental foggyness, fatigue, etc... from no spirulina. The colonel was taking some but not that much. If PATHS wasn't doing it, people wouldn't have any negative results from no spirulina.

The brain needs plenty of aminos to build the connections to take advantage of the instructions...if not enough aminos and just enough to keep in balance, then most of the PATHS instructions are just being wasted...if you don't have paint you can't paint a picture.

Aaron

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by TheColonel

Thanks for the tip. I've passed 5 kidney stones in my life, all about the size of a matchhead - But with sharp & jagged edges.

Don't worry, it only hurts when you breathe.

However, I can't find any source to support your concern. Most list minor side effects (headaches, flushed face, etc.)

Can you provide a link please? If it's true, I'll certainly have to think twice before chomping down a fistful of that stuff anymore.

It is important to stay away from any spirulina that maybe full of heavy metals for sure. Anything endorsed by NNFA with a GMP good manufacturing process logo is good as gold. I personally use AFA (Aphanizomenon flos-aquae | AFA blue green algae) but don't normally promote it because it is pretty spendy but is better than spirulina. I use the e3live liquid afa algae.

the only other concerns with spirulina in my opinion are: good iron source so ridiculous amounts wouldn't be good and also if on blood thinners, don't take it..high in K so thickens.

p.s. spirulina won't turn someone's skin dark and other effects.

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by Pagoda

I have been thinking the same thing about the spirulina. I volunteer to be the control group.

I will start taking spirulina and not do anything else. You started with 1.5 g per day, is that what PATHS suggests? I want to start with what they suggest?

Psuedo Science is fun!!

Hi Pagoda, if you actually use paths and don't take spirulina at all, you will want your own website overnight because you will experience very powerful effects.

Take care,
Aaron

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by m0vingon

This is one study that i have seen cited regarding renal stones and spirulina.

Entrez PubMed

Department of Medical Biochemistry, Dr. A.L.M. Postgraduate Institute of Basic Medical Sciences, University of Madras, Taramani, Chennai-600 113, India.

BACKGROUND: High Spirulina diet is a potential risk factor for nephrolithiasis since it has the capacity to increase urinary oxalate and uric acid level, facilitating lithogenesis. Our aim was to identify the effect of Spirulina diet during hyperoxaluric condition in Wistar albino rats. METHODS: The animals were divided into four groups: control (Gl, n=6); ethylene glycol (EG) induced (G2, n=6); EG+Spirulina (G3, n=6); Spirulina alone (G4, n=6). EG at 0.75% was administered to G2 and G3 through drinking water for 4 weeks and Spirulina 1500 mg/kg feed was administered to G3 and G4. RESULTS: Urinary parameters like oxalate, uric acid, calcium, urea, and creatinine (P<0.001) were found increased after Spirulina diet under hyperoxaluric conditions compared to the same without Spirulina diet. Similarly the BUN, plasma contents of uric acid, urea, creatinine (P<0.001) were found to be raised in G3. The renal and RBC GSH levels, as estimated by HPLC, seemed decreased when compared to G2. CONCLUSIONS: The present study shows that free radicals aid in the progression of nephrolithiasis. The crystal deposition was found to be high in the renal cells of G3 than G2 and TEM revealed damage in renal cell of G3 implying that the disease deteriorates by free radical injury. In contrast the Spirulina diet alone (G4) did not induce any features relating to stone forming condition suggesting that free radical release might have been suppressed due to enrichment of dietary antioxidants and vitamins. Thus the present investigation demonstrates that during hyperoxaluric conditions the Spirulina diet must possibly be avoided and can be considered in normal subjects checked for family history of renal stone deposition.

Hi Moving on, ..I've spent THOUSANDS of hours in pubmed myself and it is one of favorite resources.

The G3's didn't get just spirulina..they also got ethylene glycol

The G4's: "In contrast the Spirulina diet alone (G4) did not induce any features relating to stone forming condition suggesting that free radical release might have been suppressed due to enrichment of dietary antioxidants and vitamins."

It only hints to the possibility that if: "during hyperoxaluric conditions the Spirulina diet must possibly be avoided" This is not a conclusive analysis..just a possibility.

If stones are an issue ever, just increase magnesium..I'd recommend Natural Calm...a powder mag citrate powder. Have sold thousands and thousands of bottles of that when I owned a health food store.

Aaron

[themaster]

Hey Aaron,

Got some questions for you if you can answer them.. (and I'd like to say I'm being very objective/interested so I hope you don't think I'm trying to troll you)

First off I guess you could say I like to know people motivations, can you tell us what the motivations are for bringing this product/service out?

2nd.. I have to comment on your FAQ section

www.*******************: Program Authoring The Human Subconscious

A lot of things you say your technology/service can do and can't do violate rules of LOA taught by Abraham-Hicks, are you simply saying that the technology can't do it?

Are you saying that there are limitations because you’re not ready for them or just wish to leave that open ended/not on your mission goals?

To clarify better what I'm talking about one of a dozen FAQ questions I noted..

Truth or Myth?
PATHS Can:


Make me immortal!

False: While PATHS will definitely help with longevity, you will still die, eventually

What I'm noting here is the use of a lot of negatives but isn't what LOA/IM is about all positives.. so are you just saying the service product can't do it or that you’re not willing to tackle it as this time?

[Athena]

Hi Aaron,

this program sounds great, I look forward to putting it into my routine.


as for the spirulina, why is that needed for amino acids? isn't this available from any protein source?

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by themaster

First off I guess you could say I like to know people motivations, can you tell us what the motivations are for bringing this product/service out?

Hi, we want to offer something for people to empower themselves beyond anything they have ever used in a way that has never been done or thought impossible. This goes beyond gurus, books, trainings, seminars where people have a lot of good information from those sources, but only a minority of the people are able to truly internalize any of it deep enough so that it brings about some serious transformation. For the fact the self-help industry is so big is proof of that. It is mostly a large chunk of the same demographics purchasing over and over and over. If everyone who read think & grow rich just applied what they learned and I mean really, really, really take it and really apply it, they will not need to read another book or listen to another human being about the laws of attraction.

All that information still has to battle the pesons conscious thinking minds. Most people aren't able or actually are not willing to put the foot on the gas long enough for the postitive mindset to become the true dominant way of being for them...if it gets to 49% and they let the foot off the gas, it just automatically reverts to the negative. This is a fact of life and just demonstrates how powerful the self programming is because if in the positive side, then it is truly empowering.

PATHS just allows people to make these transformational breakthroughs in record time beyond anything else from the results people tell us every day from all over the world.

It isn't a substitute for being human, it doesn't do the work for us, it simply unleashes what we have lying dormant and very few human beings ever access what PATHS is able to tap into...this goes beyond simple concepts of "the subconscious mind". We are literally re-writing the science of consciousness with our technology beyond anything that has ever been public.

I'm talking about getting the brain/mind connection to use more of the quantum potential in vacuum space...literally the virtual photon flux of the quantum mechanical vacuum. There aren't any LOA teachers teaching this, we're not even teaching it but we're putting the tools into anyone's hands that want to use it and experience it. LOA doesn't teach about breathing techniques that help the body cultivate potential and definitely not with an understanding of time-energy physics and virtual photon potential charges. There are a lot of things missing from the teachings and I don't want to hold anything back.

I might as well plug it here since the topic is right here but I'm releasing a book soon that will walk you through what vacuum space is filled with, through dipoles that break the symmetry of the virtual photon flux, what electricity IS (yes we do know what electricity is), what gravity really is, interia, mass, practical application of these understandings, difference between open and closed systems, what the difference between efficiency and coefficient of performance...why does anyone benefit from understanding this? it is in simple terms, easy diagrams and no mathematics, but anyone reading this will have a more accurate understanding of all the above beyond what a degree in physics will ever cast light on. People will be empowered and for the first time they will see why in simple terms the universe is not filled with energy but potential, etc... it is the foundation for understanding what the mind is and the body's connection to the universe. Mind and Body are 2 books following this one on the physics. My motivation here is to erase all the mysticism from all of this.

My motivation? To empower people in a way that will give them self sufficiency to understand the universe they live in. To help them never become dependent on having to go to the next book the next seminar, the next movie, the next this or the next that.

I also walked away from a very successful health food store to do this full time because it was in line exactly with the projects I was working on behind the scenes. I have to make my living somehow so representing paths is how I do that. I need to put food on the table, save some, invest some and have fun with some...

my main motivation for money is to be able to fund some alternative energy technologies that take advantage of non-equilibirum thermodynamic principles and I know the difference very, very well between that and equilibrium (closed) system thermodynamics which are very limiting but are all that are really taught in school...I know that sharp gradients violate newtons 2nd laws....I can show you a device you can build for hardly anything that takes the 3rd law of motion and just makes a totally mockery out of it...I can show you several machines you can build one for about 50 cents and one for about $20 that both violate lenz law...actually lenz law doesn't even apply. I have a lot of motivations here. Solving the worlds energy problems? I'm not talking about wasting time and money on bastardized technologies like the fuel cell technologies...I"m talking about turning water into a combustible gas on demand with pure radiant potential and virtually zero electron current. I've done this in a pasta jar with stainless steel tubes...it will boost your gas mileage if sucked inline with a vacuum tube t connection. upscaled, can run a whole car on it. I get results and results are bottom line.

I know with money,there are a lot of out of the box fabulous technologies that need to make it to market. I can show you an electric motor you can hook to a battery and it runs and runs and the voltage never drops and NO this does NOT violate any laws of physics. People think perpetual motion nuts on this stuff but it has nothing to do with perpetual motion...they are all open dissipative systems, just like human beings and everthing else natural in the universe.

All the gurus tell you the universe is filled with energy but it is not...it is filled with virtual potentials that have the potential to be energetic once the natural symmetry of them is broken by anything with 2 poles, then movement from an unobservable photon potential to an observable photon...when that happens, you can say that is energy...energy is an adjective to describe the action of potential to move from one potential to another.

Every thought, intention, act of will power, etc... is breaking the symmetry of the virtual photons that infinitely fill all space and is the very substance of what thoughts are made of...these potentials are holographically organized by our thoughts. morphogenic fields, vacuum engines, etc... all the same thing but many of the concepts are just "theories" and ideas...we have our hands on working model technologies based on understanding of what thoughts really are...you won't find this in any book, school and there is one physicist alive who accurately understands this and that is it. Any others that understand this basically took the understanding from him.

PATHS was an independent discovery and the above understanding that I'm bringing forward is my personal synthesis after a long search and being fortunate enough to have been mentored by the top people in the world in their own respective fields. They are the smart ones, not me. I just paid attention in a very extreme way with burning raging obsession to know the truth and it was revealed.

This is a whole other topic...I could count on 2 hands or less all the physicists in the world who can properly define what a potential is and even what energy really is.

Can PATHs make you immortal? It can't make anyone anything but it can give a boost. Is it possible? Yes of course, but we also have to be responsible as a company so people don't have unrealistic expectations or think they are superhuman and do something not to smart. It is amazing what people create in their own mind about what something is supposed to do for them.

With the potentials I'm talking about, I've built many circuits, solid state radiant oscillators outputting pure voltage potential with no electron current...eventually, this kind of potential can be coupled to a body and with PATHS combined maybe we can regrow a new set of kidneys overnight, regrow limbs, , etc... that is where my thinking is going with this technology. It is possible of course? How probable? Well, the more people that think about it and add energy to it, the way will be shown.

Anyway, those are some of my motivations. I'm a pretty straight up guy, I know what works and doesn't work. I've paid attention to what the universe has shown me and I've acquired someone of an effective knack for LOA in my own life attracting to myself the mentors that were the most qualified in the world to show me what I wanted to learn. I never went to meet any of them, they were all introduced to me all at the perfect times...I know LOA works but the results I got were more than just applying the mindset and a few techniques or concepts. I was meditating 6-12 hours a day for many, many weeks...I would crank emotions up to a very heightened frenzy for how thankful and grateful I was that God ALREADY gave me all the things I desired. I obsessed on my desires basically nonstop every single waking hour of my life and it all unfolded as I saw it, literally. I didn't know how, I just knew what and it all happened.

Anyway, we are only at the tip of the iceburg if even that.
Take care,
Aaron

p.s. if anyone is interested in claims of the energy stuff above, I'll gladly post it or start a new thread.

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by Athena

as for the spirulina, why is that needed for amino acids? isn't this available from any protein source?

Spirulina is about 70% protein...beef is about 25% protein. spirulina has almost the most absorbable aminos...afa Aphanizomenon flos-aquae | AFA blue green algae has the most. more spendy so don't tell people about it that much. the aminos in other protein sources is not as bioavailable as spirulina or afa. just pound for pound, absorbability, profile, etc... spirulina is only beat by afa alage. there is plankton, etc.. but still more complex than a spiral algae like spirulina. it is such a simple lifeform..lower on the chain than plankton or other "exotic" food sources.

I hope that helps
take care,
Aaron

[renie408]

Originally Posted by Athena

Hi Aaron,

this program sounds great, I look forward to putting it into my routine.


as for the spirulina, why is that needed for amino acids? isn't this available from any protein source?

I know this one. Spirulina is roughly 65% protein and considered a complete protein because all eight amino acids are present. Also, because spirulina does not have rigid cell walls, the proteins and amino acids present are easily assimilated. The proteins and amino acids in spirulina are five times more easily digested than those in meat or soy proteins.

I am not sure of its application in this instance, but spirulina is a valuable addition to any diet.

[Mad101daN]

Originally Posted by Aaron

if anyone is interested in claims of the energy stuff above, I'll gladly post it or start a new thread.

I'd be intrested in seeing some of these.

Thx

Dan

[wolfgang]

@Aaron:
Yeah, post another thread about devices that break 3rd law ("For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.") and Lenz's law (EMF stuff right?).

Another question: What about biofeedback combined with PATHS? I'm thinking of something that gets the brain waves and matches them into the binaural beat then nudges the freq to a target while maintaining some optimum difference between the brain's actual frequency and the binaural beat fequency, until a certain level is reached.

I was surprised that it's delta in the sound of PATHS, since if one actually was in delta they'd be quite asleep, right? I would have expected theta since one can be alert in theta but not as gaurded as alpha or beta.

[m0vingon]

Well, I for one have decided to stop posting my experiences with PATHS on this board. I find it unnerving that MY experience is consistently being picked apart by someone who has a vested interest in what we share on this board. If anyone wants an update on my experience, please feel free to contact me with a PM.