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03-01-2007, 05:48 PM
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03-01-2007, 05:56 PM
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 I've looked it up at dictionary.com for anyone left in the dark by it...Naff - adj. Chiefly British Slang Unstylish, clichéd, or outmoded. I would've replaced it with 'cheesy' Apologies - back to the original topic now. | |
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03-01-2007, 06:07 PM
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Hey there. I don't know about TheColonel, but they did not offer me a free toaster to sell you this product or make me purchase my own branded website or have two guys in white outfits take three days to install, leaving dust in their wake. Because of TheColonel's posts to date, I trusted his word enough to gamble on the product; I can afford the $330 I spent to set it up and the $34.95 per month it will take to keep it going, if I choose to. There is no "installation" -- you purchase online (you can spend less than I did if you buy fewer pods er, modules) and the program is immediately available to you via a username and pw you specify. That big charge is a "start-up fee" not an installation charge. I'm not sure what kind of success I'll have because I just started and I understand it can take days or weeks to "kick in" -- and some people have immediate results depending, as I understand it, on their hypnotic suceptibility. I'm very impressed though with the deep sleep I had last night and my newfound appreciation of my own fabulous gorgeousness. I had never realized what a knockout I was until this morning -- if that's brainwashing, I'll take it! and pay $34.95 a month for it! I'll just report on results I get or don't get, and you guys can judge for yourselves. I won't try to sell you anything, I promise. Unless it's subliminally implanted in my brain to do so.  p.s. to CdnNix: I read on the FAQ that it DOES work on "children" but they want underage people to get parent's permission first. |
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03-01-2007, 06:09 PM
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03-01-2007, 07:29 PM
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Are these 'effects' permanent? One of the only things I don't like about these kind of thing is that you have to rely on them forever. What if you don't do it for a few months? Will you start thinking you're fat again? Or does this permanently reconfigure your subconcious?
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03-01-2007, 08:24 PM
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As far as a more technical explanation of what's going on, I emailed Aaron Murakami, who is a director with the company. He replied: Quote:
Don't know if that helps. Maybe I can get Aaron to join this forum and field questions... | |
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03-01-2007, 08:31 PM
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03-01-2007, 08:39 PM
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As far as my meditation goes, there are lots of people who meditate much longer than that. I agree that at some point, straight meditation will offer diminishing returns. My basic approach was 20 min med/visualization at 5am, another session after lunch, a late afternoon session, and then 1/2 hour before bed. Time would vary based on what else I had going on. I still don't think that's overkill, even if it was all straight meditation w/ no visualization. But to each his own... If you don't trust this stuff, don't try it. Pretty simple solution... | |
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03-01-2007, 09:30 PM
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I'd really LIKE to try this, at the very least look at the science behind it to dismiss it or not. But come on, if someone had truly discovered the so-called "secret code to the human subconscious" wouldn't there be some scientific references to back up this claim? So far, their "universal translator" is working perfectly ~ a bunch of people are buying into this gibberish! I'm only going on about it because I'm fascinated by it and hungering for some facts! |
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03-01-2007, 09:59 PM
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I think I'm in the same place that you are, JJH. Viewing the whole thing as 'gibberish', with little or no evidence to back it up. Yet strangely keen to try it all the same! Normally I'd have shifted my attention elsewhere after dismissing this stuff as unlikely to have much of an effect, but for some reason I still feel compelled to find out more. Clearly it's already turning me into a different person, and I've not even seen it  What's a girl to do, hmmm? If only they'd backed up their claims with a free trial 'Eliminating Indecision' module |
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03-01-2007, 10:19 PM
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I hear ya, Beautiful Future! I like checking out all the personal development stuff out there. Even if it's only reading the research to see if it gels with my personal philosophy so far. I guess I'm still interested in this PATHS nonsense because I can't get any concrete information! ah well  |
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03-01-2007, 11:22 PM
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Disclaimer: This is not a comment on the effects of the product, nor is this a personal attack on anyone. I just want to share with you my impression. Thanks CdNix for doing the research and finding PATHS Directory | Program Authoring the Human Subconscious www.♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥: Program Authoring The Human Subconscious www.♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥: Program Authoring The Human Subconscious www.♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥: Program Authoring The Human Subconscious www.♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.com: Program Authoring The Human Subconscious .... Need I list more? I've seen this in some multi-level direct marketing products before. The owner of the website through which you sign up for the service will probably get a cut of your fees - just compare the urls when you buy the same product from two different websites to see the same company address but different distributor ids. That's why even though the pricing is totally ridiculous, it still has customers because the marketing message you receive would be very personal experiences from very motivated sellers, may it be from friend-of-friend, or a forum like this. To be fair, Colonel may or may not know about this scheme. In addition, if you look at the terms and conditions http://www.♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥/tandc.php, the company is based in Panama City. You know what that means if you ever have a monetary/legal dispute with the company. Also, if you're interested in who, Aaron Murakami, "a director with the company" (read: someone high up in the food chain), is, you can check out Aaron's Energetic Forum™ Profile Feel The Vibe | Top o' the Line Total Health Shoppe | Aaron Murakami Lastly, on a different level, I'd like to point out that LoA/IM is totally separate from spiritual growth. LoA/IM is just a tool - getting whatever one wants via LoA/IM doesn't necessarily mean one is moving towards enlightenment. This is the same as that someone who is psychic doesn't necessarily mean he/she is spiritual or enlightened. Cheers, Quote:
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03-01-2007, 11:35 PM
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Are you guys for real?? Look at the TheColonel's answers for Christs sake. If he is not trying to make money then I'm a pink poodle. And the home page is disgusting. "Click here to get a better life" links and such. Yuck! I can't believe people are bying this. It sure is a sleazy homepage for the elite group having discovered the greatest secret during the history of mankind. |
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03-01-2007, 11:39 PM
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03-01-2007, 11:49 PM
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Sorry Angela. I got you confused with Angela Blessing:-). I'll edit that part out. My sincere apologies! Quote:
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03-02-2007, 12:07 AM
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I am a brand-new experimenter with this PATHS thing -- just began last night -- mostly because I trust TheColonel's judgment and it sounds like the results are the type I want in my life. I will report honestly about what I notice. And again, I'm not selling anything or looking for a new toaster from Aaron. I do it for you, for you, I do it all for you! Here are two more things that I've noticed this afternoon: my energy level is definitely much higher and more steady than usual. Also, and this may sound stupid, but the area under my eyes looks much lighter and less puffy, and my mascara has not smudged like it normally does. My co-workers have been complimenting me this afternoon on how brilliant my eyes look. Could all this be some kind of placebo effect, and someone pulling the wool over my eyes? Yes, it could. My feeling after one day is: I don't really care. I feel good. We'll see what happens. | |
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03-02-2007, 12:12 AM
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And again, I'm not disputing your results Angela and Colonel, or your honesty on the matter, and still remain very interested, however I find it strange that now the directory I had found has all of a sudden been updated to redirect you to the energetic ministers site, that seems to be the home base for all of the separate domains selling the product. But please Angela and Colonel, keep us posted on your results, and hopefully someone else with the cash to blow could try it out so we can get more accounts on the effects. Maybe even Steve? PS. Angela thanks for clearing up the people under 18 thing, I'll admit I only browsed through the FAQ quickly. :P And congrats on the awesome effects your experiencing. Nick Last edited by CdnNix; 03-02-2007 at 12:15 AM. |
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03-02-2007, 02:17 AM
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Like many of the other posters, I am slightly suspicious but still curious about this PATHS thing. Colonel, Angela: definitely keep us updated! I am still wondering why it would be so expensive though. ~Jm4362 |
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03-02-2007, 02:19 AM
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Congratulations to The Colonel and Angela for the results they are getting, but let me play devil's advocate for a minute. 1. The first thing that caught my attention about their website is that they are using 2CO as their credit card processor. This is basically a step up (or in some cases down) from PayPal. 2. If you do an extensive search on different search engines, they have an absurd amount of domain names registered pointing to their products. Shouldn't a legit company simply use one main domain and build its traffic from there? 3. The website proudly states that PATHS is endorsed by the Energetic Science Ministries. The website for the Energetic Science Ministries (Energetic Science Ministries™) was registered on February 11, 2007, and by the same folks in Panama City, Panama that registered most of the other PATHS websites -- including ALL of the websites for their "testimonials". Plus the administrator for all of those websites uses a "hushmail.com" email account. What are they trying to hide with a hushmail account? 4. Could this system be having a "placebo effect" on its buyers? So I will not buy from them because their business model does not seem trustworthy at all, but I hope that it's real and we get to hear some great reports from its users. |
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03-02-2007, 02:47 AM
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Just out of curiousity. When The Colonel and Angela went through the installation (set up) did they ask you to change your monitor resolution or monitor refresh rate? Your monitor only refreshes pixel line by pixel line at a certain speed. Different resolutions and different monitors have different default refresh rates, and you can change these rates if you want to control flicker or other problems with your screen. If this is such high tech stuff, then getting the preferred refresh rate should of been considered in the set up. Was it? Also the resolution is key if they are flashing millions of tiny jumbled messages. If the screen is full of messages then too high or low a resolution could really screw up what you see. During the setup were you asked to give your monitor resolution? Maybe you were. |
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03-02-2007, 08:45 AM
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Hi Angela, I'm impressed with your charisma and ability to shine the light no matter what comes your way. That is the only type of enlightened communication I would expect from someone coming to a personal development board such as this one that Steve Pavlina put together. I'll also answer some of the questions that have been raised concerning PATHS in this thread: ------------------- "wouldn't mind some in-depth technical information (especially about the actual subconscious delivery mechanism). " Some of that was addressed in a message I sent to a physicist and neurophysiologist that Greg posted. There is a link to RDT (rapid data transfer) on the FAQ on www.♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥: Program Authoring The Human Subconscious www.♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥: Program Authoring The Human Subconscious www.♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥: Program Authoring The Human Subconscious -------------------- "There's a reason why the subconscious lies below the conscious mind...who knows what's being programmed into you?" My response to people who have this kind of concern is to stop watching television, radio, etc... I understand these technologies very well and it is easy to use the main signal as a carrier wave to ride whatever you want on top of it so people watching tv will get it even if they don't know something is there other than the program they think they are watching. I am NOT implying this is in use by any clandestine groups or organizations, but the fact of the matter is, this is easy to do but people just assume tv, radio, etc... is perfectly safe. To me this concern on goes so far and if anyone has this concern in any real capacity, they would never watch tv, radio, listen to cd's or watch movies again. This is a very logical concept. ------------------------------------ The results Angela is getting is very common and we hear this every day from people around the world. There are some forums people discuss these experiences. I don't know if it would be proper to post a link to a forum diverting people away from here. If it is ok, I'll post it. --------------- "I have had similar or even more impressive success with a self-guided exploration of the LOA and I/M. Plus, I regularly get really good parking spots at the WalMart now. Do you have a CLUE how hard that is?? " This is a comparison to ONE person's experience after ONE day. ---------------------- "'pods' is an offputting term" The different program in PATHS are called "modules" or "programs" - both very well accepted terms in the industry ----------------------- "I saw the $34.95 and didn't think that was so bad. Then I saw the '$164.95' installation part. That's $200.00 (for the math impaired, I guess. I don't know why I felt compelled to add that part). Once you pay for the installation, do you just pay for the programs each month? And can you get your money back if you don't get the results you are looking for??" The FIRST month someone signs up, there are SETUP fees, not an "installation" fee. There is a lot of background programming work that needs to be done...extensive is more like it. AFTER the first month, the fee is $34.95 per month. If anyone uses less than 4 modules, there is a ONE TIME fee of $50 per module upgrade setup fee on top of the normal $34.95 monthly fee. The guarantee is for ONE module for ONE month only. That is enough for someone to "try" it. In my opinion, I believe this lets in the mind a possibility of failure. I've achieved incredible success in my life not from trying but doing. Yoda even teaches that in starwars! LOL With a guarantee, someone should just embrace it wholeheartedly. If it isn't to their satisfaction, they can request a refund. They do however have to actually log in and watch the modules and take spirulina...I recommend a minimum of 4grams daily for the first week or so. The brain needs a surplus of absorbable aminos to process what the subconscious mind is soaking up. Some might think this is just some other self help technology, but I assure you that it is very, very different. ------------------------------ Truth or Myth? PATHS Can: Be traced to alien technology (reverse engineered) Interesting question. lol "Not very professional but " I think if we can't even have a little humor then we are in worse shape as humans than it seems. We have actually been asked that by many people. ------------------------------- "what's with the 18 year old and up limitation" We had a 14 year old...I think he was 14...who used the self-esteem confidenct boosting module and after a few weeks, he stopped listening to his parents. Then we posted the "limitation" He became a little too confident. We have a girl 7 years old and one 4 years old. They are the youngest. A lot of request for academic module for school, etc... They work fine, but with parental permission is required. --------------------------------- That paths directory mentioned is an old directory of people who reached a certain "status". We are building a new one. -------------------------------- Angela Blessing is a mover and shaker in the Santa Cruz area. Very enlightened individual and so is her husband. She is an "affiliate" of PATHS like many other people. I have some messages that get sent out regularly to people who use PATHS and after about the 3rd week, I have a letter sent describing our affiliate program. If they're not happy with it by then, no use to have them tell others if they don't believe in it. -------------------------------- "I'm not sure where you learned your meditation technique, but 1-2 hours a day is overkill" "20 minutes, twice a day, is the maximum for most techniques I know." Overkill would be relative to one's own perspective. I used to meditate 6-12 hours a day 11 years ago when I was on my search and in no way was it overkill. I perfer to focus on overall strategies in my life and less focus on techniques. -------------------------------- "I'm waiting for someone more familiar with EFT to chime in that a resistant subconscious can be addressed using EFT techniques (which don't cost nothin' and require no technology.) " EFT can only do a little bit of what PATHS can do. PATHS can do everything EFT can do and more. This is why we have some EFT practitioners with their own PATHS website. We have medical doctors, psychologists, professors, business people, massage therapists, chiropractors, stay at home moms, etc... using and referring people to PATHS. --------------------------------- "I really don't trust these techniques that tout themselves as the last refuge for people who've tried everything, require a large cash outlay, and that are sold on websites that seem as if they could be selling Amway products" The common theme is obvious and I can understand your skepticism. It is so different there isn't a category for it yet. We are re-writing quantum physics with our breakthroughs and have to create some of our vocabulary to describe it. 1) It happened to be a last ditch effort for Greg and was successful. This is not everyone’s experience. It is however something most people are experiencing profound results beyond anything they have ever experienced in their lives with all other modalities, techniques, etc... 2) Large cash outlay is very subjective. With a $34.95/month fee, that is VERY VERY LOW. You don't realize but before a week ago, people always paid $200 PER MONTH for 4 modules month after month after month. Even with those prices, there has never been a problem having people sign up. We even have plenty of people paying $500/month for the custom modules. We recently dropped the price, so that it is $34.95 even for 4 modules. Compare that to $200/month. If someone sees a first month fee as an issue, they are not looking that it is only $34.95 per month after that. Average that over the 1st year and what is it? Average that in the 2nd year, what is that? Even lower because no new startup fees in the 2nd year. 3) Sold on the internet like selling Amway products? Scroll to the top of this forum and you will always see something SOLD ON THE INTERNET. This is 2007 I think you have to get used to the fact that over the years, more and more will be sold on the internet. This is just a fact of life. continued... |
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03-02-2007, 08:45 AM
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"I just have to ask this because I have been running online businesses since early 1996. What is the installation? What is installed? More importantly why does the installation cost so much? That price tag is a deal killer for 99.99% of the market." There is no installation but there is a setup fee. The pricing as it is has caused explosive growth. As I mentioned before, people were paying $200 a month for 1 module month to month. Now $34.95/month after the 1st month. That is pocket change compared to what it was. With the setup, there is extensive work behind the scenes and just because this is a technology doesn't mean everything is automated. That touches on some proprietary aspects of our technology I will not discuss. I will tell you that when you sign up, there is pesonal info we need. Name, birthdate, birthplace, etc... That info is so personal to you, your subconscious really identifies with it. We take that and run it through our technology and embed it into the presentations. Consciously, you cannot see it but your subconscious mind makes it out and says "THAT'S ME!" and accepts the modules. If someone steals your password and thinks they are benefitting by watching it, their subconscious mind says, "THAT ISN't ME" and puts up a block refusing the modules. The very first time you see the modules, only so much is there, after a couple days, there is more like the security function embedded (personal info), etc... It is not an easy process but we are streamlining it to make it easy on us. We have dropped the renewal price to a bare minimum and be ok. So with scalability, no issue...we were doing very well with the old higher pricing and with the new pricing, we can hardly keep up with it. This is not like anything else and it takes education to teach people about it since there is nothing else like it. ------------------------------- I'll post some testimonials from the other boards so you can see what some others are experiencing. I can post my own but some here seem to think that benefiting financially has an effect on what I will say. Someone posted my profile link. I am a real person with real results. I walked away from a health food store I owned generating a good 6 figures to dedicate full time to PATHS. I didn't sell the store, I just closed it down because I didn't have the patience to wait for a buyer. I'm just liquidiating inventory in chunks. Anyway, I'm the "marketing director" for PATHS...that is my official position with the company and I do some development. I have a lot of experience with very advanced technologies based on applied quantum physics. ------------------------------- "really fast messages" that we can't tell you about because it's secret, doesn't cut it" www.♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥: Program Authoring The Human Subconscious People have been drinking Coca Cola for years not knowing what their secret recipe is and no time soon will they be revealing it either. You can read more in the newsletters: Energetic Science Ministries™ | Newsletter Archives And: www.♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥: Program Authoring The Human Subconscious "I was reading up on PATHS a day or so ago, but was put off because it seemed to me that you can't actually purchase the product without purchasing your own branded sales website to go with it" The product is fully customized to each individual and is dynamic…there is nothing to take home….it remains on our servers, with access granted on a monthly basis as one pays for it. Each time someone logs on, our hardware interfaces with the presentations so it must be something that is online and has live streaming access to our servers. Unlike a CD, or anything else. Many people have a yahoo or gmail email account, those reside on their servers and cannot be downloaded for permanent use on their computer. This is very well accepted. We have a lot of affiliates who approach us telling us they want a site. Most are very satisfied users who afer a few weeks learn there is such a thing as an affiliate program. Each affiliate has their own client base they refer to their own website. All sites are under PATHS. The only requirement for someone to become an affiliate is that they use the technology and believe in it, otherwise, there is no point in being an affiliate. The cost? ZERO. We pay for the domain name (you can see they are NOT subdomains)...they are real domains names...truly hosted as their own website on servers that we own. It is a short application and the site is up and running in 24-48 hours. ---------------------------------- "It just seems to me that if it were that easy and it were real, we would be using this method in schools, etc." This will be a reality in the future. We only brought it to the public last March. Also, just because something "should be" doesn't mean it is. We have alternatives to petroleum but the US isn't embracing them...we should be but aren't. We have several schools watching students on PATHS...they are interested in developing pilot programs. ------------------------------------ "To get me to blow $200 there would have to be signed endorsements from the Presidents of MIT, Harvard, Yale, and the Pope." I would not “blow” $200 even if those people endorsed something. I would however spend $ to get a value received, regardless of anyone’s endorsement…I have a brain and do not need others to think for me and tell me what to do. Every one you noted is heading organizations with VERY SERIOUS vested interest in virtually everything they promote. Follow the dollar and you will see this is common practice. ----------------------------------- "Are these 'effects' permanent? One of the only things I don't like about these kind of thing is that you have to rely on them forever. What if you don't do it for a few months? Will you start thinking you're fat again? Or does this permanently reconfigure your subconscious?" This is a great question! This depends on the module. If it is something like the anti-aging module, it is intended to be used long term. The self-esteem module - depends on the person...some people use it 1-2 months and never need it again, some need it 4-5 months depending on how deeply embedded the negative thought patterns are. Once people establish whatever the "positive way of being'" is for them and having it being dominant for them, the module isn't needed anymore. Most people just use other modules to work on other areas of their lives. There are physical modules (mostly used as needed), mindset modules - until they are where they are at as well...some people use a booster after ever 3-4 months, which is optional, etc... Everyone is different and we don’t pretend this is some magic bullet that cures all. |
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"if someone had truly discovered the so-called "secret code to the human subconscious" wouldn't there be some scientific references to back up this claim?" We can point to various pieces of references that back our technology and science, but there is nothing that has it in whole. Besides, giving credit to the establishment doesn't hold much credit because if it had bearing on the legitimacy of something, these people wouldn't have succeeded: Bill Gates - college dropout Ted Turner - clowning around at tv station interviewing his DOG on television! Henry Ford - 4th grade education...he just told people it could be done The list is endless as many of you know... ----------------------------- "So far, their "universal translator" is working perfectly ~ a bunch of people are buying into this gibberish! I'm only going on about it because I'm fascinated by it and hungering for some facts!" Whatever comes out the "translator" is not in English and looks unrecognizable. Do we honestly expect that the innate language of the subconscious mind is English? lol It is a fascinating technology and we are only scratching the tip of the iceburg. If I told you what we were working on behind the scenes, it would blow your mind!! ---------------------------------------- "just compare the urls when you buy the same product from two different websites to see the different distributor ids" For PATHS, there are no affiliate distributor ID's. There are just different domain names. The modules offered, websites available, etc... are all virtually identical and we purchase the domain names, etc... for all the distributors. "Also, if you're interested in who, Aaron Murakami, "a director with the company", is, you can check out Aaron's Energetic Forum™ Profile Feel The Vibe | Top o' the Line Total Health Shoppe | Aaron Murakami" Yes, I'm a real live human being not afraid to communiate with people. I believe in what I do, I answer questions, I'm accessible and and more. "I'd like to point out that LoA/IM is totally separate from spiritual growth." I see no difference personally because I look at people holistically that each part of someone's life cannot be separated from another piece. LOA in itself is a spiritual practice in my opinion and lets people get in tune with their environment. --------------------------------- "LoA/IM is at most a metaphysical tool that help you achieve what you desire," Metaphysical tools are innately joined at the spiritual root for each individual. ---------------------------- "but it's just a means, not the end" Whatever we do in our lives, business, spiritual, etc... every aspect will be in the jurisdiction of LOA consciously or unconsciously. One need not consciously apply LOA techniques, strategies or tools in order for the concepts of the so-called law of "loa" to be in effect. ----------------------------- "This is the same as that someone who is psychic doesn't necessarily mean he/she is enlightened." I believe you are correct. But the effect of "LOA" applies to enlightened and un-enlightened. ---------------------------- "the home page is disgusting. "Click here to get a better life" links and such. Yuck! I can't believe people are bying this. It sure is a sleazy homepage for the elite group having discovered the greatest secret during the history of mankind. Logicseeker, if your name holds true you understand that your perspective of what is on the homepage is just that...YOUR perspective. --------------------------- "however I find it strange that now the directory I had found has all of a sudden been updated to redirect you to the energetic ministers site" What is strange about it? I saw a post earlier about the PATHS directory...it was not a complete directory, updated, or anything. I personally redirected it to the ESM site because it is more updated, more complete (with PATHS affiliates to have met certain qualifications), etc... ESM homepage is NOT some homebase where everything is organized from. It is simply the company PATHS. I personally took part in organizing ESM. I believed there was a necessity for an organization to educate people on these things... |
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03-02-2007, 08:46 AM
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| Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007
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| PATHS answers 4
"No, but I'm going to go get some tonight. I thought I had enough from my Spiru-tein (breakfast smoothie) but that only has 65 mg and they recommend 1500mg! Thanks for the cheering." I recommend 4 grams...you need enough and 1.5 grams is on the low side. I'll post links later in regards to the spirulina and why it is necessary. ------------------------------- "The first thing that caught my attention about their website is that they are using 2CO as their credit card processor. This is basically a step up (or in some cases down) from PayPal. " Paypal? Owned by ebay and is a very large and respected company. $Personally, I don't appreciate paypal because of the experiences I've had. 2CO has a very good record for having incredible service, secured, etc... ------------------------------- "they have an absurd amount of domain names registered pointing to their products" ROLFMAO - hehe... this is like complaining to McDonalds for having so many restaurants. LOL!!!! -------------------------------- "Shouldn't a legit company simply use one main domain and build its traffic from there?" I personally favor other software in certain instances but Microsoft is considered legit globally and nobody can dispute that. You might think that they have ONE domain name, but the fact is, their software is distributed by THOUSANDS of domain names through other website owners, etc... do you understand that even Harvard teaches multi-level-marketing? lol The many domain names are by "distributors" who are getting the word out. It is their business and they can come up with any name they want. -------------------------------- "The website proudly states that PATHS is endorsed by the Energetic Science Ministries. The website for the Energetic Science Ministries (Energetic Science Ministries™) was registered on February 11, 2007, and by the same folks in Panama City, Panama that registered most of the other PATHS websites -- including ALL of the websites for their "testimonials"." And this has to do with what???? This is like chastising a Nissan dealership owner for driving a Nissan...LOL! That has nothing by the way to do with any testimonials. --------------------------------- "Plus the administrator for all of those websites uses a "hushmail.com" email account. What are they trying to hide with a hushmail account." It is the highest encryption free email account available. It is not for anonymous purposes. Regardless of this, you know my name, where my profile is, how to reach me, etc… I have nothing to hide and either does the company. You contact us and you actually reach a living, breathing, live human being. The PATHS websites are hosted on OUR own multiple servers for redundancy purposes. The ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.org and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ are both hosted on the popular Godaddy network under one of their resellers…they are the largest host in the world. If the company was trying to hide something, they would also pay $1.99 (less that $2) to GoDaddy in order to make our info anonymous. Like I said, here I am, ask what you want. ----------------------------------- "Could this system be having a "placebo effect" on its buyers? " I won't get into a deep debate here about the reality of consciousness and our interaction with things externally, but pigs will fly before you have a chance to show that there is anything in the world that can be separated from someone's perception or expectation. It applies wholeheartedly to medications and EVERYTHING in your entire lives, get rich quick seminars, self-help books, LOA gurus wisdom, etc... basically EVERYTHING... You read the testimonials and remember people went to their doctors and they are no longer taking medication, they are no longer taking as much insulin, etc… _________________________________ "Nice work on the research. Now, it's so much so less important to get technical answers, because they'll be just like the rest of the material I've seen. Made up." You have never seen material like our or what we are about. If you don't want to try PATHS, that is fine, but please don't pretend to have some insight on what we are about based on a few hours research by a few people who have never bothered to contact anyone at the company to have a personal conversation. Not one person here has sent me a personal message asking me anything and my personal profile with a private message send option has been there all day. We will soon see who has diligently researched anything or is just "making stuff up." ------------------------------------- "If this is such high tech stuff, then getting the preferred refresh rate should of been considered in the set up. Was it?" Interesting questions. Refresh rate has nothing to do with it, but I'm impressed with even thinking that deep. Because of the nature of our technology it is beyond that and out of the box of what most people would think. Basically, monitor refresh rate has nothing to do with it. |
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