Ormus- the elixir of life, the philosopher's stone.

[nicbrahms]

I have received a wonderful gift of ormus from my friend Denis in Australia and I wanted to share with you all the gift of ormus.

So check out the link below or do your own research into what it is.

ORMUS FAQ

There is a million and one websites to read about it, however, Denis of Oz is one of the finest producers of potent ormus and if you would like to get his then his email is ormus@pobox.com

It quite simply is the magical substance that thins the veil between the physical and spiritual realms. There is quite an interesting story below for anyone who is interested.

Barry Carter (an ormus expert) has a friend who made the 'charged' white powder of gold. In 2000, he spent several months duplicating Hudson's (the founder of modern day ormes) process and getting the resulting 'm-gold' product annealed. When he had the annealed white powder of gold, he tasted about 6 micrograms of it and within a few hours he was almost totally incapicitated.
After injesting the Ormus gold one time, he was unable to live normally for over a year because he would manifest everything he would think of. Soon after ingesting it, his behaviour became so strange that hsi wife told him that she was going to take him to the hospital, but he was able to convince her that they would not know what to do to treat complications arising from the ingestion of white powder of gold.

He said that his mind would call up anything that he thought of. He could generally control this throughout the day, but it became a real problem at night. If he thought about having an accident whilst driving a car would show up out of the blue and almost hit him. He had to learn to not think about that which he did not want to manifest. This rapid manifestation of his fears became so intrusive that he had to spend every waking minute with his mind on things that took all of his attention. He avoided contact with people and performed mathematical calculations in order to keep his thoughts from going astray. He had to take sleeping pills to keep himself from dreaming.

This condition persisted with the same intensity for about 6 months, and with lesser intensity for another 6 months. He realised that all of his beliefs were only beliefs and not true in any fundamental way. He said that our beliefs are the foundation of physical reality and that without them things can get very shaky. This happened several years ago, but everytime Carter talks to him he gets noticeably upset about it as the memories are still very disturbing for him.

Other ormus consumers have suffered similar effects but to lesser degrees. This kind of ormus is quite difficult to make and not available widely, however, the types of ormus that are available are much safer and still afford quickness in manifestation and mental clarity.

Anyway I have been taking this ormus for several months and I think it explains alot of the growth I have seen in my mind. From awakening of pineal gland to contact with spirit guide etc.

So as many people have asked about it, I thought I would post on it.

Also if you have already taken some have you any experiences to talk about?

[Divajules]

Ha, I was going to ask you but haven't yet so I'm glad you posted this. I am curious since I've not heard about ormus until your posts. I googled it quickly one day and someone had posted a recipe to make it. It contained lye which I know is poison so I was highly skeptical of that one!

So, you really think it made such a big difference for you in speeding up the awareness process? I would like to try it and see for myself. If I try it, I will definitely use a source you recommend since I know so little about this stuff myself. So, any tips/insights would be appreciated.

Thanks for this post.

[laurasilver]

My brother has been taking ormus for some months now. A couple of weeks ago he wrote to me "I feel like I have one foot in 3D and the other in some cosmic fluid goo."

I requested some Bodylight nearly 3 weeks ago, still waiting.. will let you know how it goes. They may need to develop some new smilies to cover the states we may be going through...

[nicbrahms]

Originally Posted by laurasilver

My brother has been taking ormus for some months now. A couple of weeks ago he wrote to me "I feel like I have one foot in 3D and the other in some cosmic fluid goo."

I requested some Bodylight nearly 3 weeks ago, still waiting.. will let you know how it goes. They may need to develop some new smilies to cover the states we may be going through...

lol, I like your brothers description.

I have taken too much of the ormus I got today and ended up meditating, mind is all open and can sense and hear things differently. I haven't analysed exactly what it has done but will post, however, I feel much refreshed and with it.

[billionairekid]

Nic, I would like to hear more about this ormus and your experiences with it. Please share when you can.

[nicbrahms]

Originally Posted by billionairekid

Nic, I would like to hear more about this ormus and your experiences with it. Please share when you can.

Ok I started making my own ormus at first. Took some time and practice to get it right. It seemed to effect me but I wasn't sure as the effect is subtle, cumulative.

I then started ordering various ones off the internet, morningseedlings on ebay is a good one. I also ordered colloidial gold. I started noticing changes pretty much a short while after, pineal came awake and throbbing in head started. I then accelerated things with pineal breathing and meditation.

I then began my journey, spirit guide started talking to me, I heard voices in my head, I started learning stuff, slowly it all came to development. I felt expanded in consciousness and even gave some to my dog and he was acting super smart.

I just know I stopped taking it when the channelling started and I just used to put it to my forward, you don't even have to injest the good stuff it gives a great energy just being near it.

I feel all different and expanded and another person. I find it hard to talk about the past cause I don't really remember alot, I have become engrossed in the present and the past has no meaning for me now hence the lack of memory.

I do believe that coupled with strong affirmations and great mental discipline I have become developed spiritually greatly than I probably would have been without the ormus.

[missbhaven]

Nic you should also include mind reading. I was thinking about posting a topic, but didn't know what area to post it in.
I am also curious about ormus and other m-state metals. [B]Especially[/B] if anyone here can tell me the difference between ormus and colliodal gold (besides their states of matter, and method obtained).
That is the major question on my mind. Is it just 2 different ways to skin a cat? I'm curious for my own extraction methods in the future, since I know I'm going threw with it.

Did you see a big difference between the ones you ordered compared to the ones you made?
What product would you recommend to a progressing newbie?
What other metals have you tried? What states were they in? And what effects did they have on you?

("you" being all posters who have used/make these items)

[Laurenaus]

just curious--did the story of the man who manifested everythng make u hesitate about taking the ormus? Also are people who are great at manifesting, ever worried they'll manifest the negative thoughts in their head? Yes this might encourage one to control their thoughts but just like the man who takes ormus, sometimes its difficult to consistently control your thoughts.

[nicbrahms]

Okay so I took quite a bit of the ormus yesterday and then I slept with a dreamtime bottle under my pillow.

Oh my God, I immediately entered zero point, there was a huge space in my mind and it was silent. It was bliss. I lay in bed last night and I understood the nature of reality, I got that I am everything, every blade of grass, every molecule of water, every grain of sand, everything everything.

I understood that all creation responds to my needs or wants or my creations.
I can never do justice to what I experienced last night, it was astounding, clarity unlike anything I have ever experienced before.

My mind was in a complete state of bliss, I was encapsulated completely in the moment. There was a huge space in my mind where there was nothing, the only voice in my mind was that of my consciousness and it could be silenced instantly, I have never known such peace and contentment.

I fell asleep, however, my mind was still going as my mp3 player despite falling aslepp with it on would end up switched off and beside my bed where I keep it. I didn't do it, it happened twice. I accepted some other part of me was taking control of things.

I awoke with the excitement I felt as a child, eager to rise, put on my new shoes and dress and go and play hopscotch and skipping with friends all day.

It is the most bliss I have ever known. I can't begin to describe it properly, I have been smiling all morning, at such a calm beautiful state of mind that is all encompassing. I know the truth about my creation, I understand keenly how it is all mine to interact and do with as I please, I get that all people are my creations. Nothing is outside of me. This is my reality and it is beautifully created and perfect in everyway. I understand the path I am on, I understand the changes in reality, I get where the path I am on will take me.

I want to weep with the knowledge, I have been saying thank you all night and morning, and I understand that I am saying thank you to myself, for I am the creator. I am part of the whole, yet I am the whole. I understand that I am Jesus Christ, that I am God, that I am each one of you. My consciousness is all, completely all.

I understand that life is meaningless, only I can give it meaning. I understand.

I know there is nothing but my consciousness, all is consicousness, we may attribute different levels and names to it but it is all the one, consciousness.
It was the only voice I heard, and yet I knew it was the voice of God.

If any of you want Ormus then you should order from Denis, I never had a clue he was making such outstanding ormus.

Colloidial gold is a more subtler effect, the different monatomic elements do different things, copper will make you younger etc. However, for spiritual growth I use ormus Gold as that is what I want from it.

Outstanding and the way all consciousness should be.

peace, love and light as always my beautiful creations.

[nicbrahms]

So I wanted to say that I had an old small tub of ormus that I used to place on my forehead during meditation, however the other day I noticed that it was loosing its power. I couldn't sense much from it.

Meanwhile the ormus Denis has sent me is waiting at the post office with a customs charge. I haven't picked it up yet.

So then out of the blue as I contemplate whether I need the ormus my old tub disappears off the face of my bed. I have changed the sheets, looked everywhere for it, it has gone. So now I am compelled to pick the ormus up from the post office and I have the most wonderful experience.

So, now i am left thinking that the old ormus, it is conscious and can be imprinted, decided (me really) that I need to get the new stuff, so it quite conveniently disappears.

How sweet is that? I love when creation plays it is awesome.

[FozzyB]

Ahhh, ORMUS

I have my experience with Ormus and I wanted to share a few thoughts.

Like Nic had mentioned Barry Carter is the leading expert that can be trusted (based on Hudson's work). I have followed him and belong to a few email groups of which Barry posts to. See the yahoo groups (& others): ormus, ormus-manifesting, ormus & plants.

I have used the white powder (several times and years ago when it was much-less expensive) found at:

White Powder Gold, Monatomic (Monoatomic) Gold, Indium, Platinum, Rhodium ZPtech.net

Another very good source is (good quality and valued prices, again I have placed many orders from TibetanGold):

https://www.tibetangold.com/ssl/zc/

Seveekata (sp?) started Tibetan Gold and he also used to post to the yahoo ormus group. Both Barry and Seveekata are caring and trusted individuals when it comes to ormus.

I do want to mention, that I do not have any affiliation with the above only experience with some of their products.

Okay, some of my personal important points regarding ormus.

1) Although you don't need a PhD in Chemistry to create your own ormus, be careful as you are dealing with all kinds of chemicals (acids, lye, salts, etc).

2) You can "charge" your ormus with your intent or love, etc, especially if you make you own properly. An example would be to hold your ormus, charge with your energy and take ormus and meditate on your intent or manifestation.

3) Like anything, use the ormus that you personally resonate with. Ormus that is good for one person maynot necessarily be good for another.

If you believe ormus is a bunch of hooey - well it probably is
If you believe ormus is magical - well it probably is

Based on my research, ormus is a very personal thing. When you are ready, it will find you. It is not required for becoming a light body, however it acts as a catalyst if used and will speed up the process.

Peace & Light

[nicbrahms]

Denis of Oz works very closely with Barry Carter thats how I know it is terrific stuff, of course I have spoken to Barry carter aswell. He is lovely.

[billionairekid]

I have to admit that I was a little skeptical at first when reading your posts Nic. But after reading about Ormus, I'm very interested. I'm going to make a purchase today so that I can have first hand experience with ormus products. I like learning from experience

And I really appreciate you sharing your experiences nic. How have manifestations been affected by your ormus use?

[nicbrahms]

Originally Posted by billionairekid

I have to admit that I was a little skeptical at first when reading your posts Nic. But after reading about Ormus, I'm very interested. I'm going to make a purchase today so that I can have first hand experience with ormus products. I like learning from experience

And I really appreciate you sharing your experiences nic. How have manifestations been affected by your ormus use?

Oh yes, I manifest everything well anyway. But when on ormus you don't have to, you just be and the universe maintains your way of being and brings all the lovely stuff to you that you might only fleetingly think of.

In fact now I think of it I was doing this before, I can't really remember the last time I actualy consciously intended for something. You don't seem to have to.

Lovely jubbly.

[On A Lark]

Ok, Nic I thought you'd appreciate this synchro. I've heard you talk about Ormus before and you've sparked my curiosity about it so when I saw this thread title of course I started reading...

I saw in your one earlier post where you mentioned a particular Ebay source for Ormus that you had used and liked. So I went to Ebay and tried searching by the seller's name you had mentioned but nothing was coming up. So I just searched Ormus by itself and PAGES of listings came up.

I started scrolling down the list and just randomly picked one about half way down...opened up the detailed listing to see that it was being offered by the seller you had recommended!

I took that as a sign I was on the right path so I ordered it

[modernthing]

you talk about colloidal gold, is there a real difference between ormus and colloidal gold ?? I have made some research upon reading this thread and some people seem to amalgamate the two of those, is there really a difference between the two (yes there is but rather : ) and the effects they produce ?

Thank you for all the info you provide

[nicbrahms]

Originally Posted by modernthing

you talk about colloidal gold, is there a real difference between ormus and colloidal gold ?? I have made some research upon reading this thread and some people seem to amalgamate the two of those, is there really a difference between the two (yes there is but rather : ) and the effects they produce ?

Thank you for all the info you provide

Well I find colloidial gold to be more subtle. I have taken both together, I have taken loads, none or only a little bit at very times.

I think it is the overall effect that has been the change in me.

It is up to you what you would like to try, I like ormus from denis (email provided in above post) or from morningseedlings on ebay. They are strong and good, also I sent you a message about where to buy it here in the UK if you would like it.

[modernthing]

yes, I did get that and followed your advice, thank you so much was just looking to understand the real difference !

I had heard about colloidal silver, but not gold ! Wow, it's surprising Colloidal silver has some interesting properties as well from what I've heard...

[nicbrahms]

Weeeeeeell, its official ormus makes you giddy happppppyyyyyy, for proof just read my posts today. (And I haven't even been to the mail box).

I got the shits and giggles from happy ormus, can't stop laughing. Shits cause of the magnesium in it and giggles cause it makes me happppppppppppyyyyyyyyyyyy!

Wooooooohhhhhhhhhhhooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

[modernthing]

I definitely want some now

Ordered a sample, and now waiting will provide feedback !

Keep on smiling and laughing Nic, I love you just that way !!

[pickledonion12]

Is this actually safe to use? I read it contains lye which is toxic. I've been reading about Ormus after this piqued my interest and I have to say it seems to be a real mystery about what it actually is (if it is anything). I'm totally intrigued though!

[nicbrahms]

Originally Posted by pickledonion12

Is this actually safe to use? I read it contains lye which is toxic. I've been reading about Ormus after this piqued my interest and I have to say it seems to be a real mystery about what it actually is (if it is anything). I'm totally intrigued though!

Yes, perfectly safe as when you make it using wet method you rinse your precipitate 3 times and the ph is around 9 when you consume it.

Sides the acid in stomach is neutralising the alkaline lye in your stomach if you do consume it when ph is a little high.

Hope this helps, I have consumed it when the ph has been as high as 12 and I am completely fine, )(*&^%$%&*()(*&^%$$%*. Yeh completely fine.

Toodles

[nicbrahms]

Okay for those of you that are interesting I am going to write down how I just made a batch of ormus.

I mixed a cup of dead sea salt with 4 cups of water. Dead sea salt has the most highest concentration of the various m-state metals to make the best ormus.

Once dissolved, I added caustic soda, lye. I did this by by mixing 1 part lye to 3 parts water unless you get the ready made stuff.

I dropped the caustic soda in, it usually takes quite a bit to get the ph to rise. I use a squeezy bottle to drop caustic soda in. The liquid starts off clear and as soon as you start dropping the lye in, clouds form in it. Mix it well then use a ph meter to check the ph. It was at 9.6 I continued to add lye, the ph got stuck at 9.8, I then added lots of lye to get the ph to begin moving again, mixing after each adding of lye.

I then managed to get it to 10.2 at which point I added only a few drops at a time, it gradually finished rising and I stopped at 10.8, 10.78 is ideal. However, my ph meter only goes to one decimal point, approx is fine. I then have a cloudy liquid, it has completely changed, it is milky and no longer clear.

Okay, the reason the ph has to be maintained is to keep gilchrist elements from dropping from the water, these are bad for you apparently. Anyway, it is becoming widely known that dead sea salt does not contain any gilchrist elements. (Do not take my word for it, do your own research).

So some people have been making it by taking the ph upto 12, I, however prefer to keep the ph at a good point whereby the cleaning of precipitate will not take too much effort.

Okay, once you have your cloudy liquid, place it somewhere overnight to allow the precipitate to drop, this is magnesium and ormus. Ormus attaches to the magnesium in the salt and drops with it.

When you have the white cloudy slurry at the bottom of your jug, you need to draw off the liquid above it, so I use a plastic pipe as a siphon, draw it out using my mouth, then quickly pop one end in the sink to drain.

Once down add more water, stir well and allow to settle again overnight or for 5 hours, clean it using the same method another 2 times. Then check ph when in acceptable range, of about 9 or lower, siphon water off and there you have your ormus/magnesium.

Drink it at your leisure. Oh and whilst you are making it please keep good, loving intentions around it as it becomes imprinted with whatever is going on around it.

There was a man who used to sell ormus, and one day he received an email from a lady who had purchased some off him and she asked him who the tall guy and fat woman were. He was shocked, although he had made his ormus away from everyone with the best intention, the ormus had picked up on his lodgers downstairs and become imprinted with them. Hence the lady who drank it knew about them.

Also, I took some ormus off my sister as she is not into all this spiritual stuff much and so I took a bit and slept with the tub under my pillow. That night I had the most erotic dream ever, woke up and promptly jumped my partner. I don't usually have such naughty dreams. My sister does, she had carried the ormus about with her and her oversexed mind had done the job of imprinting the ormus. I then imprinted it with my intentions and it didn't happen again.

So there is many funny stories around ormus.

Oh yes there is the Ormus Denis sells, a woman came on the forum at Ormus and she was talking about when a male friend of hers called her, and for some reason she could not get him out of her mind. She litterally wanted to ravage him, she couldn't understand it as she didn't even fancy the guy. This feeling lasted for days and then he rang her up and again the same thing happened and so she told him. He laughed and said that he had been taking ormus that was supposed to make you desirable to the opposite sex. It hadn't effected him half as much as it did her. She still couldn't get him out of her head, luckily the effects wore off. Anyway she had found out where he had bought it and got some herself.

This story is on the ormus board at yahoo.

I could tell you a million others, it is very powerful so you need to imprint it correctly to your specification.

[TheColonel]

I've taken Ormus on & off for many years. During my extended divorce/custody battle, I had to stop taking it.

In my experience, Ormus cranks up the potency of your thoughts. In my model of reality, my mind is a tranceiver to/with the universe. Ormus simply jacks up the amplitude.

When I'm sad/angry/anxious/nervous/pissed off/frustrated/etc, I don't take it, even though it has a somewhat calming effect.

My favorite brand is OceanAlchemy by Don Nance. Occasionally he'll make a brew that's so strong, it will literally shock you when you put a drop on your tongue.

Ormus is an interesting substance, but if you're not in tune with yourself and your thoughts, I would work on that first.

[SethWilliams]

Originally Posted by nicbrahms

Okay for those of you that are interesting I am going to write down how I just made a batch of ormus.

I mixed a cup of dead sea salt with 4 cups of water. Dead sea salt has the most highest concentration of the various m-state metals to make the best ormus.

Once dissolved, I added caustic soda, lye. I did this by by mixing 1 part lye to 3 parts water unless you get the ready made stuff.

I dropped the caustic soda in, it usually takes quite a bit to get the ph to rise. I use a squeezy bottle to drop caustic soda in. The liquid starts off clear and as soon as you start dropping the lye in, clouds form in it. Mix it well then use a ph meter to check the ph. It was at 9.6 I continued to add lye, the ph got stuck at 9.8, I then added lots of lye to get the ph to begin moving again, mixing after each adding of lye.

I then managed to get it to 10.2 at which point I added only a few drops at a time, it gradually finished rising and I stopped at 10.8, 10.78 is ideal. However, my ph meter only goes to one decimal point, approx is fine. I then have a cloudy liquid, it has completely changed, it is milky and no longer clear.

Okay, the reason the ph has to be maintained is to keep gilchrist elements from dropping from the water, these are bad for you apparently. Anyway, it is becoming widely known that dead sea salt does not contain any gilchrist elements. (Do not take my word for it, do your own research).

So some people have been making it by taking the ph upto 12, I, however prefer to keep the ph at a good point whereby the cleaning of precipitate will not take too much effort.

Okay, once you have your cloudy liquid, place it somewhere overnight to allow the precipitate to drop, this is magnesium and ormus. Ormus attaches to the magnesium in the salt and drops with it.

When you have the white cloudy slurry at the bottom of your jug, you need to draw off the liquid above it, so I use a plastic pipe as a siphon, draw it out using my mouth, then quickly pop one end in the sink to drain.

Once down add more water, stir well and allow to settle again overnight or for 5 hours, clean it using the same method another 2 times. Then check ph when in acceptable range, of about 9 or lower, siphon water off and there you have your ormus/magnesium.

Drink it at your leisure. Oh and whilst you are making it please keep good, loving intentions around it as it becomes imprinted with whatever is going on around it.

There was a man who used to sell ormus, and one day he received an email from a lady who had purchased some off him and she asked him who the tall guy and fat woman were. He was shocked, although he had made his ormus away from everyone with the best intention, the ormus had picked up on his lodgers downstairs and become imprinted with them. Hence the lady who drank it knew about them.

Also, I took some ormus off my sister as she is not into all this spiritual stuff much and so I took a bit and slept with the tub under my pillow. That night I had the most erotic dream ever, woke up and promptly jumped my partner. I don't usually have such naughty dreams. My sister does, she had carried the ormus about with her and her oversexed mind had done the job of imprinting the ormus. I then imprinted it with my intentions and it didn't happen again.

So there is many funny stories around ormus.

Oh yes there is the Ormus Denis sells, a woman came on the forum at Ormus and she was talking about when a male friend of hers called her, and for some reason she could not get him out of her mind. She litterally wanted to ravage him, she couldn't understand it as she didn't even fancy the guy. This feeling lasted for days and then he rang her up and again the same thing happened and so she told him. He laughed and said that he had been taking ormus that was supposed to make you desirable to the opposite sex. It hadn't effected him half as much as it did her. She still couldn't get him out of her head, luckily the effects wore off. Anyway she had found out where he had bought it and got some herself.

This story is on the ormus board at yahoo.

I could tell you a million others, it is very powerful so you need to imprint it correctly to your specification.

I would appreciate having this ormus in my reality. Huh, guess i just manifested it, wonder when it will show up :P

[nicbrahms]

I think everyone should take ormus, if they are not in tune with their thoughts, ormus will help them to get there.

I guess people have to experiment for themselves, however, I also believe that ormus finds you when you are ready. It found me when I asked for it.

toodles

[TheColonel]

Originally Posted by nicbrahms

I think everyone should take ormus, if they are not in tune with their thoughts, ormus will help them to get there.

I guess people have to experiment for themselves, however, I also believe that ormus finds you when you are ready. It found me when I asked for it.

toodles

Maybe so Nic. But the story in your first post perfectly illustrates what I'm talking about.

[nicbrahms]

Originally Posted by TheColonel

Maybe so Nic. But the story in your first post perfectly illustrates what I'm talking about.

Ok, but that was made using Hudson's process, it was the manna, the potent stuff. I doubt anyone could get hold of that stuff, and the process to make it is complicated and difficult.

The everyday stuff which is what I am talking about won't have that effect on you. Ormus is whatever you want it to be, it is creation as is everything else.

If people want it then the should do their own research and go from there. However, it has been nothing but beneficial for me.

I guess you get what you expect, perhaps you are getting what you expect on some level, avoiding taking it when you are in adverse state of mind. You are imprinting it with that, hence it is not always a positive thing for you.

[missbhaven]

Originally Posted by SethWilliams

I would appreciate having this ormus in my reality. Huh, guess i just manifested it, wonder when it will show up :P

I was thinking the exact same thing.

[pickledonion12]

Nic, apologies if you've listed a website/person but can you recommend an Ormus seller in the UK?