Ormus- the elixir of life, the philosopher's stone.

[nicbrahms]

Which is why I say research it. It is fine if you do it for 5 to 10 seconds an go from there.

I can stare at the sun for 3 mins and more, I have perfect vision. Also it alleviates my headache if I have one.

There are people who do it for hours, I won't go into the benefits but please if you decide to do it research it.

We are building our light bodies from cosmic light absorption, how on earth can the sun be bad for us in moderation. It is the source of all life here on this planet of ours.

There is a man in India who is surviving on sunlight, he hasn't eaten in years.

Peace out

[blossom]

It certainly is A source of light here on earth, and there is earth itself, water also contributes, and air of course... you can't really live without any of these things.

All things in moderation is a good way to live. I find it difficult to stare straight into the sun though, so I don't...I figure I get enough of it's rays bouncing off the concrete and other surfaces. The floaters in my eyeballs tell me I have had enough sunlight via my eyes.

[Mynder]

Why do mechanics wear protective masks when welding? Yes, the sparks. But not only the sparks. The welding point gets so bright that permanent eye damage can occur (although it is possible to just temporarily damage your eyes that way, like with other extreme flashes of light).

The sun is pretty bright, and our eyes are made to see by its light, not to stare into it for any extended period of time.

If you do this in the early morning hours, when the sun is very low on the horizon, depending on how much dust and other stuff is in the air, its light may get dimmed enough so that it isn't (too) hurtful if not taken to extremes.

But I still wouldn't stare at it for any prolonged amount of time at noon, in summer, on a day with clear air.

As far as research goes...I can't find proof that Hira Ratan Manek (the Indian you were referring to, if I am correct) REALLY lives only on sunlight, but there are several sources that report on people who damaged their eyes by sungazing etc.

I don't need proof that sungazing works. If it does for some, all the more power to them. But the dangers are very real and not imaginary.

Maybe you need to be able to process the energies properly in order to prevent getting hurt...I don't know. I won't say that's impossible, either. Just...for the majority of people I think it's not the best of ideas. Certainly not something I'd SUGGEST to anyone as a way to improve their eyesight. This feels a bit irresponsible to me, however, that is just my personal opinion on this topic.

That said...I apologize for taking this thread off on a completely unrelated tangent. Let's hear more about Ormus experiences.

[Painter]

I have noticed I am more relaxed. I have also noticed the effect is nicer when I mix it in water. I use filtered water but I don't think it matters. I did take the Full Moon Ormus straight a few times and the effects seemed to strong. However, I am feeling better as I often suffer from lower back pain and that seems to be fading. I have alot of energy, but also have learned that less is more.

I had to play with the dosage a bit. I weigh just 110lbs. and have decided my recipe should be as follows:
I Melt a piece 1/2 the size of a peppercorn in 16oz. of water.
& Drink 1/3 of the bottle 3 times a day.

So thats about half the recommended dosage. I tried this the last two days and feel more balanced and in control. Taking it with water seems to do something different than taking it straight. More concentration and less buzzing for one. More work gettting done and less of that floating feeling. Which kept me in to deep a state to perform my work well. A state good for meditation but not the daily grind. Although I think it would be a good idea to increase it once or twice a week for meditation or walks in the woods.

I am more productive and calm since I began taking the ormus. Once I tweeked my dose everything began to come together. My senses are very strong and I have gotten control of my empathy by learning to look rather than take in. I haven't began dreaming alot yet, but I don't dream much anyway. I do get flashes in pictures sometimes. Today I saw a small streak of light go by my right eye. ??? About foot away. ??? Oh and speaking of light, the moon and sun are amazing now. I don't sungaze but love the feeling on my skin. I can feel the moon. If that makes sense.

O.k. I guess it all sound unbeliveable but this is what I'm getting.

[blossom]

I've also found my concentration has improved greatly in a short time, and this is something I have really struggled with for years...it is an after effect of recovery from PTSD! So I'm pretty happy about that.
I had this image of my father, looking utterly broken as it hit him all the hurt he has inflicted on me over the last few years...and I was ablt to wrap peaceful dove wings around him and send him love and peace and felt more willing to forgive, which has been something I've also struggled with for years. I seem to be letting go of stuff I need to, but it's hard to say if that's the Ormus entirely or due to other exercises I have been doing since I found this sight, and just being on this site? It's definately helped the process along quite a bit I feel.

Originally Posted by Painter

I have noticed I am more relaxed. I have also noticed the effect is nicer when I mix it in water. I use filtered water but I don't think it matters. I did take the Full Moon Ormus straight a few times and the effects seemed to strong. However, I am feeling better as I often suffer from lower back pain and that seems to be fading. I have alot of energy, but also have learned that less is more.

I had to play with the dosage a bit. I weigh just 110lbs. and have decided my recipe should be as follows:
I Melt a piece 1/2 the size of a peppercorn in 16oz. of water.
& Drink 1/3 of the bottle 3 times a day.

So thats about half the recommended dosage. I tried this the last two days and feel more balanced and in control. Taking it with water seems to do something different than taking it straight. More concentration and less buzzing for one. More work gettting done and less of that floating feeling. Which kept me in to deep a state to perform my work well. A state good for meditation but not the daily grind. Although I think it would be a good idea to increase it once or twice a week for meditation or walks in the woods.

I am more productive and calm since I began taking the ormus. Once I tweeked my dose everything began to come together. My senses are very strong and I have gotten control of my empathy by learning to look rather than take in. I haven't began dreaming alot yet, but I don't dream much anyway. I do get flashes in pictures sometimes. Today I saw a small streak of light go by my right eye. ??? About foot away. ??? Oh and speaking of light, the moon and sun are amazing now. I don't sungaze but love the feeling on my skin. I can feel the moon. If that makes sense.

O.k. I guess it all sound unbeliveable but this is what I'm getting.

[Painter]

Blossom,
The forgivness is easier for me too. I've noticed that when I'm not concentrating on things I get old memories of hurtful events. I've been taking this as a chance to clear the feelings caused by them. I've found that once I decided to forgive, the thought is still around as a memory but without the pain.

[nicbrahms]

I have thought about it long and hard and I seriously think I would have to have ormus in my life in one way or another.

I don't injest it half the time and the effect is terrific on me. When I am pouring a batch to go out to someone, it instantly is felt in my pineal, it makes me awake and aware in an instant. It has transformed my whole way of thinking, it made me face issues I thought I had dealt with.

It seriously is an amazing tool, I have obviously been taking it for some time now and when the newcomers to it on this forum start feeding their light body, past a certain point you will certainly know about it.

I feel lighter within, I stand and I feel like my head is touching the ceiling, I feel like I am walking on air. I meditate and I am floating near the ceiling. I think these new developments are because I am feeding my lightbody so much that I can feel it all the time.

Also, I am oblivious to anything life throws at me, I am so far detached from it, its brilliant and if something happens that might have stressed me, I laugh and thank the universe for making my process so enjoyable.

Ormus is defo the best thing I have ever taken to aid me on this journey.

I am now going to make a new batch as I have consumed quite a lot of my previous batch, that was one potent batch, one that gave the aforementioned ephiphanys.

I am glad that people have something positive to report about their ormus usuage.

Blossom, I am glad things are opening up for you as they are. It really is your best friend if you intend it to be.

Peace, love and light.

[Painter]

It seriously is an amazing tool, I have obviously been taking it for some time now and when the newcomers to it on this forum start feeding their light body, past a certain point you will certainly know about it.

I'm a newbie as you know. I'm wondering what you think of my dosage change. You've been so open and helpful with me thus far. I would love to know if you think my dosage change was the right thing for me to do. And what about taking more when I meditate? Do you think a consistant dose is better than changing it up?
Thanks for all your help.

[blossom]

Thanks both of you! I have been 'trying' for years to sort all this crap out, but I know it happens best if you just leave it alone and let it sort itself out half the time. It comes up when it's ready to...but I've just been impatient and wanted to force the process so I can be free from all this bitterness and hurt etc. I feel the same Nic. Yesterday, at training (I train in MA) I felt so light as a feather, and I can sense that me sensei feels it too and is fascinated by it, as is one other member who initially didn't like me (or that's how I sensed it anyways?)

[nicbrahms]

Originally Posted by Painter

It seriously is an amazing tool, I have obviously been taking it for some time now and when the newcomers to it on this forum start feeding their light body, past a certain point you will certainly know about it.

I'm a newbie as you know. I'm wondering what you think of my dosage change. You've been so open and helpful with me thus far. I would love to know if you think my dosage change was the right thing for me to do. And what about taking more when I meditate? Do you think a consistant dose is better than changing it up?
Thanks for all your help.

I think you can do anything you want, I certainly never kept my doses to moderation.

Sometimes I would consume 4-5 grams in one day, other times I would drink a pint or more of my ormus.

The thing is with ormus when you read the story about the first consumer as per Hudson, he began a fast and was going toconsume immense amounts of ormus made by Hudson (the modern day founder of ormus). He was going to take it for 9 months and at the end of it he was supposed to ascend by becoming more light body than physical. You are supposed to saturate your body with it.

So I don't think there is any problem with taking more or as much as you want, just have to govern it yourself. As for me the only time I had a bad time of it was when I wished my ego dead, and then I started having all sort of weird insecurity issues, everything would freak me out, my past was pouring into my memories like you wouldn't believe. I realised then what I had done and remedied it and recovered. It wasn't pleasant ego death.

However, it still turned out to be positive for me cause I learned about myself and my inner workings and got something that I could work with out of it.

I couldn't imagine my meditations and channelling and ephiphanys and talking to my ego, personality, higher self and spirit guide as having occurred without ormus. It has been a wonderful experience for me.

So you should do what feels right, don't take it in bigger doses if you are afraid cause you will influence the ormus to bring you something more to be afraid of. Only take it if you are comfortable with the bigger dose and you look forward to taking it. Otherwise meditate with it on your forehead, that also works wonders.

Hope this helps

[blossom]

That's so interesting, as I also have been through a time of wanting my ego to die, and I think it may have been the cause of alot of undoing in me, and the bringer of much insecurity and unnessecary regression? Interesting...thanks for sharing that, it helped me.

[missbhaven]

Picking up my 1st bottle today... will keep you tuned in with details.

But I have 1 question. The intention, do you give it to the whole bottle or just the batch you are going to use at the moment?

[nicbrahms]

Originally Posted by missbhaven

Picking up my 1st bottle today... will keep you tuned in with details.

But I have 1 question. The intention, do you give it to the whole bottle or just the batch you are going to use at the moment?

Whatever you like.

[JGD]

Today when I was mediating/stretching while listening to Binaural beats to get me relaxed for 30 minutes.

I got up, and was feeling refreshed. I went to the restroom and then took some ORMUS. This is my 6th day.

And when I put on some shoes to go and take a walk.

I saw a Blue/Green circle and it was about 12ft straight ahead of me. It wasn't moving. I closed my eyes and opened. and it was still there!

I did it 3x and it was still there. So I just looked at it and noticed it was Blue and Green around the edges.

Interstingly when I closed my eyes. I saw a Orange/Red Dot. Again about 3x until I was feeling anxious/panicky because (I still have these ideas that I'll see some scary image/ghost)

Anyone have any idea? Was it probably because I was mediating/stretching for an half hr? And had my head up/down consistently?

Also in regards to ORMUS. out of the 6 days. 2 days felt no social anxiety. Free of everything.

2 other days from the 6. Felt tired. Have actually tooken a nap. The other 2 days (one of them being today) Nothing really.

Not even sure what I'm suppose to feel?

What do you others do to place an intention on it. And does that intention flucutuate according to ones daily thoughts/feelings?

I ordred ORMUS from Nic. So maybe her batch will mos-def be stronger since its in a liquid form. And well Nic seems like a cool person.

Thank you.

[blossom]

Not sure about the blue geen thing? I have felt exhausted for the last few days, but I've had some emotional stuff come up so I don't think it was the Ormus, though the Ormus could have been the catalyst for the stuff coming up?

It has definately relaxed me about 20 times more than I already was, which I am enjoying. But no visuals...except for a VERY disturbing nightmare I had the other night, where I was turned on by some people I was working for at a party, who started all trying to kill me, and this naked guy, who was so real and I think he was meant to be Adam, from the bible, walked towards me and then I was being consumed in a pit of bloody bodies, like an orgy, but not a fun one...a deadly one. It was the scariest most visual nightmare I've had yet and it took me about a half hour to get over it once I woke up. It was horrible.

[nicbrahms]

Wow! Wow, ORMUS! Wow, ORMUS is! Wow, ORMUS is terrific!

I can’t even describe how I feel, which is highly unusual for me. I can generally put words to my experiences. I feel so different, yet somehow familiar. It’s like taking my best day and magnifying it 10, 25, 50 times. And in some ways I feel unchanged, only parts of me are extended forward into my experience. I feel spiritually tingly. Alive.

Ela said I could write to you. My first and only exposure to this was about 5 years ago while in Reno. After giving a workshop there, I was invited to present my material on 'voice frequencies and energy patterns of the body' to a group (who’s name I’ve forgotten). The group consisted primarily of highly intellectual men with scientists and physicists among the mix. They introduced me to the concepts of white powder gold, and M-state, and the ‘spin’, but it made less sense to me then than it does now, and I still haven’t a clue what it is. The only clue I had about the importance of this discovery was their enthused interest.

But experiencing it is the only way to begin to know it. And still, I am struggling to describe my experience. The nearest I can come up with is that it ignites the spark of life. At 46, I feel far different than I did at 16, 20 and even 30. Doing ‘the right things’ like eating well, taking the top supplements, doing yoga, etc., doesn’t get me anywhere near the top of the mountain anymore. It lifts me a few feet and that is all. This M-state material catapults me to places I vaguely remember as being part of my heritage. I can’t recall if these distant memories come from my childhood, or are more deeply embedded within my being. But it’s REAL and I never want to be without it.

I want to share it with EVERYONE. I have an alcoholic sister, a drug addicted adult son, a college age daughter struggling with hormonal issues, and friends across the U.S., each of which I would love to share this gift with. But is it for everyone? Are there caveats, precautions, conditions? What do I need to know before inviting others to experience this stuff? How can I help connect people with this gift?

I am a sensitive. Yesterday I took my first 2 drops of the material. Then this morning I took 2 more (although I was torn between taking the material first and an herbal supplement that needs to be consumed on an empty stomach). Twenty minutes after taking the material I puzzled about how soon I could take my Noni juice, when the energy of the material spoke to me and said it welcomed the other substance. It gave me the impression that it would work synergistically with it. I heard its voice as well as felt it’s energy tone. Wow! With a total of only FOUR drops inside me, I felt an incredible presence within.

I welcome communication from others about the ORMUS material. Please feel free to forward my name, email address and phone number. I am anxious to extend the gift of the material to my family and close friends. Would you tell me how I can do that?

I can’t tell you how grateful I am for you bringing this forward and opening the channels. I look forward to meeting you someday soon. Let me know how I can help you in your mission (and this is NOT an empty offer)!
I hold you in my prayers,

Sharon Rose
mstatewhirlies@yahoo.com


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From: "Sharon Rose" <mstatewhirlies@yahoo.com>
Subject: entry from a newcomer
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 09:39:27 -0800

Dear Barry,

Thanks for talking with me yesterday. As you suggested, I am writing about my experiences with the M-state to share with others on the forum. As a newcomer to this, I haven’t been able to read fast enough to keep up with my experiences, and consequently have felt like I’ve been on some sort of inner-space carnival ride. Initially, I had asked my friend to get me some the material based on an intuitive hunch, even though I was unable to attend your gathering in Washington last month.

The thing that grabbed me the most was the consciousness I felt after taking it. On day two (after my second dose of 2 drops on an empty stomach) I pondered about how long to wait before taking a nutritional supplement that wants to be taken on an empty stomach too. This is when the consciousness in the material spoke to me, saying, “I welcome the other substance”. The feeling I got was that it would work synergistically with my supplement.

I was not as surprised to hear this communication as many people may have been, given that I have over 13 years experience with interspecies communication. I worked closely with animals for most of that time, many of whom were my initial teachers. At the core of communication is the ability to listen from a centered place. After learning to consciously do this, I also learned how to extend this communication to all living matter including plants, insects and even internal parasites. Later, I learned how to use it as a sensing tool to feel the vitality level of supplements, food, and even to pick out a good bottle of wine! It has some very practical uses.

So, I wasn’t that surprised to hear a communication from the M-state, but the quality was different from anything I’ve ever experienced. I refer to these as ‘feeling-tones’ (coined by Seth). There was a poignancy that is new to me. I tried to find words to describe this quality but could only come up with a visual looking like the rainbow effect motor oil has when it mixes with water. Using this analogy, other communications would look like watercolors.

On the second communication, a couple of days later, I heard the voice much more clearly. It happened on Sunday when I had some time to research and read about ORMUS. Beginning with the scientific explanation, I had only read a couple of paragraphs when I came across the term ‘microclusters’. I felt the ORMUS Consciousness leap with recognition. This caused me to tune into It and It said, “I can take you places”, and at the same time I saw a path within a tunnel. This was before I read about the tunneling properties. I was alarmed by the fact that I’ve never experienced a communication at this level. It’s one thing for a horse to tell me they miss a herd member, or a plant to tell me it’s dieing of thirst, but to be made an offer by a ‘substance’ really tweaked my limits.

I immediately asked about Its motivation, to which It replied “I am the way…” (into other dimensions), was the implication.

I began having serious concerns. After all, I grew up with all those Star Trek episodes… and this was certainly uncharted territory for me. It took me another 24 hours to come to some personal resolve. The one thing I can count on in my life is that there are no coincidences and that every event is connected. I know when things happen ‘out there’ that I don’t understand that I have to go ‘in here’ to find the significance. I began by analyzing my fears.

I’m aware that I’m at a crossroad in my life, for which I’ve been ‘waiting for some sign’ before proceeding. I can either take a demanding job and pay off my debts within the next year or return to the financial uncertainty of being self employed. What I learned when I examined my situation, and the fear that it triggered in me, was that I've been waiting for some extrinsic force to direct me since I'm torn between what I perceive as passion vs. duty. I realized that it's time for ME to take a leap of faith; to create my own inroads; to program my own destiny. This is why I've been sitting on the fence for 2 months without any guidance. This Consciousness triggered a fear response in me by showing me a pathway into the unknown, should I choose to explore it. I definitely felt 'choice' was the key issue.

I believe the M-state is consciousness and that it helps us to be more conscious of those things that are on the forefront of our inner life. It is the

[nicbrahms]

essence that comes before matter. I theorize that whatever state we are in will be accentuated in the presence of the M-state.

With the help of a deeply spiritual friend, I hope to explore more of the metaphysical implications of the M-state and will post from time to time whenever anything noteworthy comes up.

On another note, I have a voice frequency analyzer that I use to assess the energy of the human body and mind. For anyone familiar with Sharry Edwards work, this is similar technology. Unfortunately, my machine is off getting repaired, but I anxiously await its return to see how my voice/energy has changed and I will forward any useful findings. Also, I'll be forwarding the frequencies of some of the metals, if anyone can use this information.

I've been giving the material to my animals (2 dogs, 2 cats & a cockatiel). All but one cat seems to like it. My bird demonstrates the most enthusiasm by peeping and jumping around his cage when he sees me feeding the other animals. The old dog has a tumor on his side the size of his head! I'll let you know if this changes.

Warmly,

A mutual explorer, Sharon Rose





Hi Barry,

I had another interesting experience yesterday. I went to a noon meeting of the Healing Arts Professionals of Tacoma, a really great collage of people. I took a few drops of ORMUS to my friend and drank the rinsing from my carrying container. That's all it took. The first part of the meeting is supposed to be the brown bag/social hour, though I didn't take anything to eat. The woman next to me was drinking some sort of nutritious (I use the word loosely) shake when I felt the energy of the ORMUS spin out and pull in nutrition from her drink. It extracted it and brought it into me! I didn't eat at all yesterday until 5 pm.

Later, I thought about the time I did a weekend Tyong (Chi) Gong seminar. The 'Master' was surrounded by people with various stories. One woman supposedly hadn't eaten for 20 months. She WAS pretty thin. After my experience yesterday, I guess this might be how people can do that...

I had a dream soon after starting with ORMUS. I saw time compressed and watched myself move here and there, doing this and that. The picture slowed every time I ate and I saw myself eating lots of produce and over time I lost the 15 or so pounds I've been wanting to shed. I've felt differently about my weight since that dream and I sense that it will go....

With love,

Sharon



Dear Barry,

It's been 8 months since I was first introduced to ORMUS, and in that time I have had several contacts from people who have read my stories. I'd like you to add this letter to that link because I find myself saying the same things over again to each person I talk with. Most people want to know what kind of 'stuff' I've taken so they can have the same kind of experiences that I have written about. Well, I'm not sure it works exactly that way, though I won't say that categorically.

I would speculate that I am 90% different than I was back then, meaning that the ways I define myself have fundamentally changed. This change has to do with the limitations I perceive about myself, though not about the internal "I am". I am still the little child who explored thoughts of different dimensions, who discovered the Hall of Knowledge at 8 years old, who left her body frequently to communicate with loving beings on the other side of the veil, and who talked with God on a regular basis. The thrust of my life is still the same. It's just that my perceived limitations are far different.

In these past 8 months I have had communications from the essence of ORMUS. I have felt the ORMUS within me reach out and absorb nutrients from food-stuff that never entered my mouth. I have slightly levitated on several occasions. I have caused an object to move 10" without touching it. My ability to leave my body and examine other dimensions or source-out where negative energy is coming from, is so accurate that I feel complete confidence about these (and many other) abilities. Yet, where do the effects of ORMUS end and the effects of my own consciousness begin?

In the very first writing to you, dated March 8th, 2001, I was ecstatic about discovering ORMUS and looked forward to introducing it to my loved ones. My ecstatic-ness has subdued over the months as I have witnessed many people (who have had various ORMUS materials) and their personal experiences. Without exception, every one of these people has had some sort of healing crisis (emotional, psychological or physical). I was no exception. I hit a wall of fear as large as anything I had ever experienced, which led me to wonder if ORMUS had something demonic about it. That thought in itself was my first clue that this wall of fear was about me, because I don't believe in demons. Ever since my Baptist childhood I have declared that, "demons don't exist". Can you see the fallacy of my statement? It's the use of a 'negative' to define a belief. My unexamined belief actually upheld the existence of demons and this belief defined my fear-based experience.

What I learned early in my ORMUS adventures is that all the same rules I had come to accept as being guidelines to living (primarily that my thoughts and expectations create my experiences), still applied, but they applied much, much faster. If it took 3 months of me having some negative emotion scuttle about the fringes of my mind before I experienced its physical expression in my life, then it might take only a week for that manifestation to take place with ORMUS. I had to stay on my toes and learn to recognize these experiences for what they were, namely the warning signs that my steering was off course.

Where my friends got lost, I believe, is that they hadn't yet come to understand that their thoughts and beliefs were responsible for ALL the experiences in their life. Some of them had physical healing crisis, some had emotional or psychological healing crisis. Most stopped taking their ORMUS material once their crisis began. Somehow they equated the crisis with the ORMUS without taking the next logical step of asking: IF ORMUS is somehow responsible for this 'negative' event, AND I trust that the material is SAFE and BENEFICIAL, then can these experiences ultimately be beneficial to me also? Only a few people came to ask these pivotal questions and continued with ORMUS, although I saw how everyone's lives improved within a matter of a few weeks to months as they addressed the details of their particular crisis and were forced to make necessary beneficial changes in their attitudes.

It is my belief that ORMUS is not for everyone - or not yet, anyway. People who decide to experiment with ORMUS material must be prepared to do their personal work even more diligently than before. The dangers for not doing so are as real as life. If ORMUS makes the human experience speed up (from thought to manifestation) then we may conceivably find ourselves making poor decisions because we are unprepared to face the fears that haunt us. A seemingly minor indiscretion of opting to make the end justify the means can conceivably become a pattern that defines all experiences. We can more quickly be seduced by the heightened powers that seem to follow the ORMUS experience without evolving naturally into them.

I firmly believe that wherever our personal dysfunction resides, we cannot achieve our fondest desires without passing through and beyond these limitations. The force in all of our lives takes us in a common direction to examining our perceived limitations. Refusing to look at these issues creates a split within us, and the distance of that void can become so large that a perception of 'good' & 'evil' may exist. ORMUS hastens whatever path we are on.

My advise to anyone who wants the ORMUS energy to assist them in their quest of experiencing and knowing themselves, is to learn everything they can about themselves. Examine all the nooks and crannies in your mind and heart. If you can't see how tall the trees are in your internal forest, learn to examine the shadows they cast in your life. There are road signs all about us, and the best of these road signs can be found in our weaknesses and fears. Open yourself to the pain you have shut out, for that is the most limiting force in your life. If ORMUS creates one side of the mountain of experience and you create the other, no matter what kind of ORMUS material you use, the summit of your experience will be only as high as you have created for yourself.

I recall my overwhelming feelings upon retiring for bed after the first day I had taken ORMUS material. I knew then how profound was the gift I had been given and I humbly prayed, "Why me"? The answer came back that, "You asked for it".

I'd like to end this letter with a little story that came to me in the dream state soon after beginning with ORMUS.

While traveling further through the forest than ever before, the young Indian man heard the rush from the river ahead. He faithfully carried the back half of the unusual canoe as the Shaman carried the front portion while leading their way. The Shaman specially made this canoe for the boy's journey into manhood. It was unlike any canoe the boy had ever seen before. The body of the canoe was typical for a one-man canoe, but there were three arms that stretched out on each side of the canoe. They arched high like shoulders shrugging, and then dropped back down like scarecrow arms. The end of each set of arms attached to a plank that ran the length of the canoe on either side. It was easy to see that the planks would ride high near the waters surface once the boat was launched. The boy speculated that these planks must've been added for additional stability and he wondered what unusual conditions the Shaman expected for his journey into manhood.

[nicbrahms]

The boy and the Shaman placed the canoe into the water at the rivers edge. The boy was pleased to see how stable the boat was and assumed his assessment for the planks was accurate. Before departing, the Shaman pointed to the mountain and told the boy that the object of his quest was at its top, and he must reach it by dawn.

Armed with a fierce determination, the boy picked up the oars and stroked rhythmically upriver for hours before beginning to tire. He noticed that the only way he could hold his position against the strong force of the current was to keep up a strong, stable stroke of the oars. When he lessened this commitment his canoe was easily swept down river. By nightfall he was certain he had drifted below his starting point. Tired, discouraged and disheartened the boy slumped down in his canoe and eventually fell asleep.

Just before dawn he awoke to a noise of roaring, rushing water that he slowly identified as an approaching waterfall. Reaching for his oars he fought with all his might, but the current was too strong and soon he was heading over the edge. Down he went, 10, 20, 30 yards, when suddenly the planks on each side of the boat caught the mighty updraft created in the wake of the falls. The canoe began to soar above the level of the falls as the planks acted like wings. The little boat was lifted high into the air, and loosely followed the contours of the landscape while traveling all the way to the top of the mountain -- from which could be seen a glorious new day dawning.

Yours very truly,

Sharon Rose

[nicbrahms]

Apologies for my not putting this info out before.

Initial effects of taking ormus.

1. Loud click or bang in head from pineal activating.
2. Tiredness as pineal has become activated.
3. Lightbody becomes more.
4. Purging of memories, and a release of memories that are holding you back.

To counter some of these symptoms

1. Drink plenty of water to stay hydrated as light body grows
2. Sleep a little more, especially in first week or more of starting ormus.
3. Allow natural flow of memories and allow ormus to purge them
4. Eat more protein to counter tiredness.

Peace and light.

Interesting dream blossom. Wow!

Anyway remember that you will be representative of your true state through your dreams, and they can be uncomfortable initially as you work through things.

[nicbrahms]

Originally Posted by JGD

Today when I was mediating/stretching while listening to Binaural beats to get me relaxed for 30 minutes.

I got up, and was feeling refreshed. I went to the restroom and then took some ORMUS. This is my 6th day.

And when I put on some shoes to go and take a walk.

I saw a Blue/Green circle and it was about 12ft straight ahead of me. It wasn't moving. I closed my eyes and opened. and it was still there!

I did it 3x and it was still there. So I just looked at it and noticed it was Blue and Green around the edges.

Interstingly when I closed my eyes. I saw a Orange/Red Dot. Again about 3x until I was feeling anxious/panicky because (I still have these ideas that I'll see some scary image/ghost)

Anyone have any idea? Was it probably because I was mediating/stretching for an half hr? And had my head up/down consistently?

Also in regards to ORMUS. out of the 6 days. 2 days felt no social anxiety. Free of everything.

2 other days from the 6. Felt tired. Have actually tooken a nap. The other 2 days (one of them being today) Nothing really.

Not even sure what I'm suppose to feel?

What do you others do to place an intention on it. And does that intention flucutuate according to ones daily thoughts/feelings?

I ordred ORMUS from Nic. So maybe her batch will mos-def be stronger since its in a liquid form. And well Nic seems like a cool person.

Thank you.

Remember the effects are subtle, you will change almost impercebtibly but in a month or two from now you won't be the same person you were.

Also, the results are varied. You can increase effects through meditation, you can push your pineal to become more. I breathe threw mine which has aided it amazingly.

Just relax and always expect the best.

Love and light

[blossom]

Yes, this has been my instinct for the last 3 days. To just sleep as much as possible. I'm pretty exhausted, and felt depleted yesterday. But Sooooooo very relaxed. It's really a blissful feeling.
I will be getting my protein hit tomorrow (er, today actually...in a few hours) I've been waking up at around 5a.m ish and coming to the forum (can't stay away).

I hope I am more energized by friday though...as I have an intense 4 day training camp in the mountains, and I do mean INTENSE. 14 hour days of just training in MA for 3.5 days solid. It's gonna be full on, and I need all my strength. SO resting now, seems right, even if I weren't totally exhausted from the Ormus.

Yes, that dream was incredible, I've never had such realistic visuals before. I was literally being consumed in a pit of bloody bodies...eesh!

I have been drinking lots of water, just intuitively. Thanks

Originally Posted by nicbrahms

Apologies for my not putting this info out before.

Initial effects of taking ormus.

1. Loud click or bang in head from pineal activating.
2. Tiredness as pineal has become activated.
3. Lightbody becomes more.
4. Purging of memories, and a release of memories that are holding you back.

To counter some of these symptoms

1. Drink plenty of water to stay hydrated as light body grows
2. Sleep a little more, especially in first week or more of starting ormus.
3. Allow natural flow of memories and allow ormus to purge them
4. Eat more protein to counter tiredness.

Peace and light.

Interesting dream blossom. Wow!

Anyway remember that you will be representative of your true state through your dreams, and they can be uncomfortable initially as you work through things.

[JGD]

Originally Posted by nicbrahms

Remember the effects are subtle, you will change almost impercebtibly but in a month or two from now you won't be the same person you were.

Also, the results are varied. You can increase effects through meditation, you can push your pineal to become more. I breathe threw mine which has aided it amazingly.

Just relax and always expect the best.

Love and light

LOVING IT!

Thank you for taking the time to inform us and introducing everyone on this forum to ORMUS.

Very Kind of you.

Also in regards to dreams. I noticed I've been having very relaxed dreams. except for the first night that I took ORMUS.

It was relaxing. And then out of nowhere the kind person that I was talking to on the phone during the dream. Surprises me by coming to where I was calling her. And shoots me. I die. And I just feel my body light and everything going in slow motion.

The other dreams just consist of me being advised very intellectual conversations. And good questions being asked of me. I'm loving it. It's like a mini-thearpy session.

[nicbrahms]

Originally Posted by JGD

LOVING IT!

Thank you for taking the time to inform us and introducing everyone on this forum to ORMUS.

Very Kind of you.

Also in regards to dreams. I noticed I've been having very relaxed dreams. except for the first night that I took ORMUS.

It was relaxing. And then out of nowhere the kind person that I was talking to on the phone during the dream. Surprises me by coming to where I was calling her. And shoots me. I die. And I just feel my body light and everything going in slow motion.

The other dreams just consist of me being advised very intellectual conversations. And good questions being asked of me. I'm loving it. It's like a mini-thearpy session.

Wow, also amazing dreams. Looks like your dreams are showing you the changes that are takimng place in your pysche.

Wonderful, I can't wait for everyone's further experiences.

This is tres tres exciting for me.

love and light.

[aikidogirl]

I ordered the sample from morningseedlings on ebay and have used it the last several days. Mostly, I feel kind of floaty and very relaxed. I noticed while I was meditating that I almost fell asleep in the middle of it, which is pretty odd for me. I saw some strange colors and had some flashes of "something" but I'm not sure what.

How best to use this?

[nicbrahms]

Originally Posted by aikidogirl

I ordered the sample from morningseedlings on ebay and have used it the last several days. Mostly, I feel kind of floaty and very relaxed. I noticed while I was meditating that I almost fell asleep in the middle of it, which is pretty odd for me. I saw some strange colors and had some flashes of "something" but I'm not sure what.

How best to use this?

Use it as and when you feel like it, just go with your intuition.

[aikidogirl]

I'm just trying to figure it out as a tool to help me. Should I be "trying" to see/feel/manifest other things? Or let them come to me as my mind sees fit?

[Andrew Michaels]

Nic. I'm not really interested in consuming Ormus, but I wouldn't mind rubbing some on my forehead as an experiment. Do you feel that this worthwhile?

Originally Posted by nicbrahms

Which is why I say research it. It is fine if you do it for 5 to 10 seconds an go from there.

I can stare at the sun for 3 mins and more, I have perfect vision. Also it alleviates my headache if I have one.

There are people who do it for hours, I won't go into the benefits but please if you decide to do it research it.

We are building our light bodies from cosmic light absorption, how on earth can the sun be bad for us in moderation. It is the source of all life here on this planet of ours.

There is a man in India who is surviving on sunlight, he hasn't eaten in years.

Peace out

[nicbrahms]

Originally Posted by Andrew Michaels

Nic. I'm not really interested in consuming Ormus, but I wouldn't mind rubbing some on my forehead as an experiment. Do you feel that this worthwhile?

Yes, if you decide it is.

I use mine sitting on my forehead in the tub, aids me immensely.

[Mynder]

Originally Posted by nicbrahms

Yes, if you decide it is.

I use mine sitting on my forehead in the tub, aids me immensely.

Is that due to the ormus, or due to you sitting on your forehead in the tub?

SCNR

[nicbrahms]

Originally Posted by Mynder

Is that due to the ormus, or due to you sitting on your forehead in the tub?

SCNR

lol, both thank you.