Ormus- the elixir of life, the philosopher's stone.

[Painter]

Well the Bodylight I have been taking seems to me like ormus 'lite' in comparison to the other accounts. We are advised to 'exercise prudence' in the taking of it, but it has been nothing but pleasant and good for me.

LauraSilver,
I just saw your post after I posted. I've been careful so far to take the dose on the tub. But I did ask Nic earlier about taking more. She did and had good effects from it from what I read. I'm going to take it slow because I already had some training in manifesting and don't want to let the effects of the ormus get to intense. But so far so good.

One thing I have noticed is I am more comfortable around people I used to not feel comfortable around. I was always picking up on empathic feelings from others. Both the good and the bad. While ormus is said to help make one more empathic by some, it has helped me be able to not pick up the negatives unless I seek them. Big help there. This makes me think that manifesting bad thoughts can be controled on ormus. Now if I can just figure out how I am doing it and and put it into words, that will also help with this experience.

[rei]

Originally Posted by Painter

Thanks rei,
Well it took me a while to learn it. As I mentioned somewhere here I used to play victim. And in learning not to become the vicitm I learned its best to go ahead and let someone know what is acceptable to you and what is not. Of course its not what was said but how it was said. And it is not my place to change that in anyone. But we do decided to a certain degree how people treat us.

I've read a few post here already that I disagree with about how people treat others. About it being our on fault and responiblity. I'm thinking on it a while before I respond because I believe in my heart that it is not always our fault when we are treated in a way we do not like.

Btw, I love your pic. It so,,, well,, pleasant.

ah, thank you! i love that pic too

you bring up a good point, one that's been talked about here quite a bit. my own opinion is that there's a significant difference between fault and responsibility. we can be responsible for how things work out, by either acting or silently accepting something instead of acting, but that doesn't at all mean we are to blame.

that's especially true with abuse dynamics... it's a very hard idea to accept emotionally, i get that, but i do think even at the point where a person has internalized the idea of deserving the treatment (not true at all), that person is still ultimately responsible for their actions and choices (not acting, accepting the same thing more, is a valid choice). we can always act on a variety of choices, but i definitely understand being in a situation like that, a person could have trouble seeing all the options.

so, i think there's a big difference between blame/fault and responsibility. i have no intention of blaming anyone who has endured a difficult experience, but i also think it's quite empowering to see how we're responsible for our choices, and the consequences of them. i see it as empowering because it means we get to decide how our life will look... that's just me though. (for the record, i don't mean to be offensive in any way in sharing my understanding here. it isn't at all about blame though. i'm definitely not saying anyone deserves to be abused, and i do understand how it can be hard to see this perspective when you're in the thick of it. i don't judge anyone who needed time to gather the courage to get out of that type of situation.)

oh, and i think you did a beautiful job of asserting your boundaries. that seems to be a common area for women, that could use some improvement. thanks to you for being a lovely example of it!

p.s. i'm an empath as well, i understand how the gift can become a burden sometimes. i started a thread here not too long ago with methods for handling others' stuff once we've already accepted it. i mention it in case you might find value in it... for empaths/those sensitive to others' stuff

[laurasilver]

Originally Posted by Painter

One thing I have noticed is I am more comfortable around people I used to not feel comfortable around. I was always picking up on empathic feelings from others. Both the good and the bad. While ormus is said to help make one more empathic by some, it has helped me be able to not pick up the negatives unless I seek them. Big help there. This makes me think that manifesting bad thoughts can be controled on ormus. Now if I can just figure out how I am doing it and and put it into words, that will also help with this experience.

Painter, I too struggle with putting the direct experience into words, but: 'what you said'

I think we are each taking different alchemical products, but I agree with your interpretation of how it's working. I like the way you expressed that phenomenon. I'm just enjoying it at the moment and waiting to see what comes next.

[Painter]

i get that, but i do think even at the point where a person has internalized the idea of deserving the treatment (not true at all), that person is still ultimately responsible for their actions and choices (not acting, accepting the same thing more, is a valid choice). we can always act on a variety of choices, but i definitely understand being in a situation like that, a person could have trouble seeing all the options.

I can say this about abuse. Which has been 26 years ago now. I can only speak for myself here so I'm speaking about my own experience. I admit looking back, there was a moment of decision presented the first time abuse occured. The reasons to stay for a year and a half were not rational.
He'll change when the job gets better. He'll change when our child is born. He loves me. I was young, I was broken, I was alone. All of these excuses/ reasons make no sense. Because I was being abused and should have left before being munipulated into being to fearful to leave. Then there was the point where I gave into fantasy believing those things.

I could have left before it got bad. And didn't stay long as the marriage was short. So yes I believe there is a choice but sometimes the other choice may be worse. Or atleast, at that moment you think it is. When in reality it isn't. Which I realized only after I accepted he wasn't going to change. Of course now, it would be different. So I learned the hardway. But thank goodness I learned.
The only thing I will add to that is, while I was responible for staying no matter the mind games and breaking down of the spirit, I did not raise my hand to harm anyone nor did I use my words. So in that I know I did right by him. So I came away with no guilt. Only a hard lesson of what to never allow in my life again. And I'm never offened at someone who can enlighten me to realise something that is truth. So thank you for your post.

I think we are each taking different alchemical products, but I agree with your interpretation of how it's working. I like the way you expressed that phenomenon. I'm just enjoying it at the moment and waiting to see what comes next

I'm taking the full moon ormus from the vendor Nic mentioned earlier in this thread. One thing I decided last night is that I do not need to take it past 7:00 p.m.. I sleep better if I just take it in the mornings and afternoons.

[nicbrahms]

Originally Posted by Painter

i get that, but i do think even at the point where a person has internalized the idea of deserving the treatment (not true at all), that person is still ultimately responsible for their actions and choices (not acting, accepting the same thing more, is a valid choice). we can always act on a variety of choices, but i definitely understand being in a situation like that, a person could have trouble seeing all the options.

I can say this about abuse. Which has been 26 years ago now. I can only speak for myself here so I'm speaking about my own experience. I admit looking back, there was a moment of decision presented the first time abuse occured. The reasons to stay for a year and a half were not rational.
He'll change when the job gets better. He'll change when our child is born. He loves me. I was young, I was broken, I was alone. All of these excuses/ reasons make no sense. Because I was being abused and should have left before being munipulated into being to fearful to leave. Then there was the point where I gave into fantasy believing those things.

I could have left before it got bad. And didn't stay long as the marriage was short. So yes I believe there is a choice but sometimes the other choice may be worse. Or atleast, at that moment you think it is. When in reality it isn't. Which I realized only after I accepted he wasn't going to change. Of course now, it would be different. So I learned the hardway. But thank goodness I learned.
The only thing I will add to that is, while I was responible for staying no matter the mind games and breaking down of the spirit, I did not raise my hand to harm anyone nor did I use my words. So in that I know I did right by him. So I came away with no guilt. Only a hard lesson of what to never allow in my life again. And I'm never offened at someone who can enlighten me to realise something that is truth. So thank you for your post.

I think we are each taking different alchemical products, but I agree with your interpretation of how it's working. I like the way you expressed that phenomenon. I'm just enjoying it at the moment and waiting to see what comes next

I'm taking the full moon ormus from the vendor Nic mentioned earlier in this thread. One thing I decided last night is that I do not need to take it past 7:00 p.m.. I sleep better if I just take it in the mornings and afternoons.

Probably explains why I don't sleep, it send your mind into overthinking or alertness makes it hard to sleep.

[nicbrahms]

Okay, so a quick update on my new developments.

I have been taking my own home made ormus, and had some interesting results with it.

The minute I take a swig or too, I have had some sort of ephiphany.

The other morning I realised as I was talking to the universe about money, that money is irrelevant, I understood true abundance as I felt I was floating up by the ceiling. I got it that everything that I conceive of and decide is mine is mine that thought. It was quite an exceptional feeling, and true clarity was mine for that time which has lasted.

Then yesterday I had the same experience except this time it was about the true nature of reality, I saw things shifting about me, the light fixture moved and then bent back cause I willed it. I understood it was all completely my creation and that everyone was placed by higher self, it was all elaborately created by higher self and I could see higherself at work and the more you learn about the truth of it the less elaborate it is.

I could see every thought manifest on the way to work, names, numbers, things, and scenery repeats itself as I saw on a long drive the other day. When the truth becomes apparent, it seems that higher self decides that the ruse does not need to be so elaborate. And increased awareness allows you to see the creation for what it really is.

I realised that no-mind is the key, that zero point where there is nothing. For the less thought, the less intricate reality is and the closer you come to no-thought the closer you come to the truth of reality.

So when you can still your mind permanently, reality will dissolve away and you can create it afresh or not, or as anything you conceive.

I think I understand more than ever before. Thanks to ormus pushing me to learn, showing me.

Another thing is that you start perceiving the universe around you, perhaps the energy around you. When I talk to the universe now, I get instant response, questions answered, same with God. You can feel it all around you all the time. It cushions you and carrys you along.

I am starting to understand on such a different level, it is wonderful.

Thank God for this Ormus I made, it really must have been the most powerful I have ever made. Bless it.

Peace

[Painter]

Nic,
that sounds wonderful. To open up and allow that flow of knowledge to enter. And then to be able to use it so smoothly. Your reports always encpourage me.

I also have a report this morning.

Yesterday afternoon my little group of friends had a cook out. Now within this group are many different personalities. Me and a younger girl are the talkers. One guy is quite, one guy is loud. My son is the funny one. His wife is the sophisticated one. One lady just older than me is the straight forward one and her hubby is the smart one. Then there's the 20 year old guy that's a bit wild and his little daughter who is two. Because I'm one of the talkers I decided to listen yesterday rather that ramble on. The ormus is helping me control my rambling when I tell a story now. I'm more to the point and can stay on track now. Which I'm sure my friends are grateful for.

Just as we all have our ways, needless to say the lady that's straight forward tends to make strong comments sometimes. Comments that will throw you for a loop if you have tender feelings. I know she doesn't mean to hurt people but sometimes she does. I have been thinking about her pain a lot lately. I have told myself that if I could just get on the same page with her I could understand more about her and then not get my feelings hurt so easily. And maybe get past the small animosities that tend to arise sometimes between us. I've always liked her but we are so different sometimes we clash.

Before dinner I didn't get a chance to be alone with her because all the women were gathered in the kitchen. Of course we were all chattering away. During dinner she sat next to me so I was able to laugh and joke with her. We laughed together for the first time in ages and really enjoined each other. After dinner the younger girl that talks even more than I, cornered me, ha ha, and chattered away with hardly a breath. Much like I've been know to do, but this time I was the listener. I won't go into her situation but lets just say she puts up with a lot. I sat and listened and during that time I realized this young woman is smarter than she's being given credit for. That just popped into my mind out of no where and suddenly I was given understanding of her pain. My empathic state had gone past me actually feeling her pain inside myself and I was able to see it without taking it on.

After that conversation I went to find the other lady. The one that is so straight forward with her words. We sat at her computer looking at our houses on Goggle earth. Then she looked at the mountain trying to find the property lines. Now, the property line issue have purposed problems for she and I in the past. Its always been a sore spot for me. I never understood why she just had to know exactly where the line was on the other end of my property. The end she doesn't live on. I always assumed it was for some sinister reason because that was the impression I got from her straight harsh talk. For some reason it made me feel I shouldn't trust her.

My empathic side could never get a view of her motives. Last night as I sat there I began to see a blue string like thing come from her head to mine. I allowed it to flow as we talked. Now I understand that her reasons are not sinister but rather respectful. There is a hunting camp that joins my property over the mountain and she was just trying to find the line so that we can post our no hunting or trespassing signs. She doesn't like hunting and neither do I. I never judge anyone that does, but it will never be tolerated on my property. I want no blood spill here. So long story shorter, she was just doing the same thing I was, thought wise, out of concern. Just in such different ways with different words and attitude. I finally understood she means no harm with her harshness. She has been through a lot in life and all of a sudden I could see it.

I knew that 7 years ago before she moved here and married my cousin she lost her then then husband to suicide. Last night when I got in bed I saw what she saw when she found him. I will not go into detail but now I understand what her life has been like. I felt so deeply for her I promised myself to never take her harsh words personally again. I also saw a great Choctaw native spirit around her. She is part Choctaw and part Irish just like I am, so I recognized the essence of the Choctaw and Irish bloodline's. I saw that she and I were meant to meet at this part of life. That there is a reason. And that we were not supposed to be so defensive around each other. AFter all we are both thealpha female thinking type. So this is a big improvement in our relationship.

One more thing. There was a two year old baby girl there. She belongs to the younger woman and guy I spoke of. The baby was glowing. So pure and golden it was as if my breath would diminish when I held her. This occurrence I have no explanation for yet, but I get the feeling this little girl is super special. Perhaps even a healer, because of the wonderful blue and golden light around her hands and head.

[nicbrahms]

Originally Posted by Painter

Nic,
that sounds wonderful. To open up and allow that flow of knowledge to enter. And then to be able to use it so smoothly. Your reports always encpourage me.

I also have a report this morning.

Yesterday afternoon my little group of friends had a cook out. Now within this group are many different personalities. Me and a younger girl are the talkers. One guy is quite, one guy is loud. My son is the funny one. His wife is the sophisticated one. One lady just older than me is the straight forward one and her hubby is the smart one. Then there's the 20 year old guy that's a bit wild and his little daughter who is two. Because I'm one of the talkers I decided to listen yesterday rather that ramble on. The ormus is helping me control my rambling when I tell a story now. I'm more to the point and can stay on track now. Which I'm sure my friends are grateful for.

Just as we all have our ways, needless to say the lady that's straight forward tends to make strong comments sometimes. Comments that will throw you for a loop if you have tender feelings. I know she doesn't mean to hurt people but sometimes she does. I have been thinking about her pain a lot lately. I have told myself that if I could just get on the same page with her I could understand more about her and then not get my feelings hurt so easily. And maybe get past the small animosities that tend to arise sometimes between us. I've always liked her but we are so different sometimes we clash.

Before dinner I didn't get a chance to be alone with her because all the women were gathered in the kitchen. Of course we were all chattering away. During dinner she sat next to me so I was able to laugh and joke with her. We laughed together for the first time in ages and really enjoined each other. After dinner the younger girl that talks even more much than I, cornered me, ha ha, and chattered away with hardly a breath. Much like I've been know to do, but this time I was the listener. I won't go into her situation but lets just say she puts up with a lot. I sat and listened and during that time I realized this young woman is smarter than she's being given credit for. That just popped into my mind out of no where and suddenly I was given understanding of her pain. My empathic state had gone past me actually feeling her pain inside myself and I was able to see it without taking it on.

After that conversation I went to find the other lady. The one that is so straight forward with her words. We sat at her computer looking at our houses on Goggle earth. Then we looked at the mountain trying to find the property lines. Now, the property lines have purposed problem for she and I in the past. Its always been a sore spot for me. I never understood why she just had to know exactly where the line was on the other end of my property. The end she doesn't live on. I always assumed it was for some sinister reason because that was the impression I got from her straight harsh talk. For some reason it made me feel I shouldn't trust her.

My empathic side could never get a view of her motives. Last night as I sat there I began to see a blue string like thing come from her head to mine. I allowed it to flow as we talked. Now I understand that her reasons are not sinister but rather respectful. There is a hunting camp that joins my property over the mountain and she was just trying to find the line so that we can post our no hunting or trespassing signs. She doesn't like hunting and neither do I. I never judge anyone that does, but it will never be tolerated on my property. I want no blood spill here. So long story short, she was just doing the same thing I was, thought wise, out of concern. Just in such different ways with different words and attitude. I finally understood she means no harm with her harshness. She has been through a lot in life and all of a sudden I could see it.

I knew that 7 years ago before she moved here and married my cousin she lost her fher then husband to suicide. Last night when I got in bed I saw what she saw when she found him. I will not go into detail but now I understand what her life has been like. I felt so deeply for her I promised myself to never take her harsh words personally again. I also saw a great Choctaw native spirit around her. She is part Choctaw and part Irish just like I am, so I recognized the essence of the Choctaw and Irish bloodline's. I saw that she and I were meant to meet at this part of life. That there is a reason. And that we were not supposed to be so defensive around each other. Big improvement in our relationship.

One more thing. There was a two year old baby girl there. She belongs to the younger woman and guy I spoke of. The baby was glowing. So pure and golden it was as if my breath would diminish when I held her. This occurrence I have no explanation for yet, but I get the feeling this little girl is super special. Perhaps even a healer, because of the wonderful blue and golden light around her hands and head.

Wow! I think you and ormus were made for each other, exceptional experiences, exceptional and a complete move in the right direction. No need to sheild now as you have discovered how to feel without feeling too much.

I love the blue energy you saw coming to you from the woman, blue energy I think is the energy of communication. I always see blue upon channelling and now I see blue specks everywhere and I get information that way.

I also think you can tap into vibrational information that is all around us.

By simply saying you want to know everything about the french language you can know it, cause the blue energy gives it to you. You literally download it.

Cool.

[Painter]

By simply saying you want to know everything about the french language you can know it, cause the blue energy gives it to you. You literally download it

Morning Nic,
Now that is something to think on. Thanks for that info. I'm moving along and finding the support everywhere I look. This board and quite frankly YOU have been a huge help in this. The blue line thingy did open up communication. The baby's glow was mixed as said above, with a nice royal blue and gold. My grandson also has something simular. He is two now and beginning to chatter more. With him I see white and green. Which in my mind means innocence. But it also means spiritual growth. My grandson is an old soul. I can tell it by the thought he has and sends right into my head on purpose then smiles at me with that little sneaky grin of his. Its as if he's saying,," I know you know, but they don't know, so its just for you and me. Thats what I keep getting from him.

[modernthing]

I have received the ormus I ordered a few days ago, and tried it randomly and I did notice things happening...

Probably not in a powerful manner, but rather quietly and on a mounting curve. It seems that the first things that happened to me were trying to solve some of my most important "issues" : I work in a shop where there are some angry customers once in a while (it's a computer shop, and we have a carry-in repair service, so, sometimes we have people letting their frustration out on us) ; I had been recently suffering from people giving me a tough time (it's not always that easy trying to tell someone they're out of warranty or that their data is lost or whatever bad news it is we give...) and was losing interest in doing my job properly (mind drifting kinda thing), I didn't feel good about it.

I had some very angry customers that pushed my limits right after taking the ormus. It was so bad that I had a discussion with my boss on the next day and we set the record straight, he told me he could see I was drifting, my attention was some place else etc...
He knows that I have other plans about my own business for sometime soon & all, but he also knows that some customers are very tough do deal with at times and that I am sometimes too sensitive because I try to be empathic.
So, we agreed on everyone in the shop making efforts to avoid difficult customers situations. And again, in the afternoon, someone had a go at me for no apparent reason. That was too much to take, a lot in just the space of 2 days, so I broke down and cried.

It is funny, because right before this happened, something inside me wanted to go out for a break, and I told myself it would be best to stay there with my colleagues and get my motivation up and running. But I guess there was a very good reason for this happening because it seems it made my colleagues realize that being the front line at the shop was sometimes too hard for me, so we, together made plans for another one of my colleague to take my place at the counter, and I'd go and stand in another area of the shop.
This is good, because I finally receive some concern from them, they usually never cared in the past about how and why I was sometimes dealing with difficult customers. (I'm the only lady there, in a world of men)
So it seems that my issue was definitely looking to be solved ; I feel much lighter since we had these conversations and since we decided to take steps to move me away from the "front line of angry customers", a lot of pressure just vanished.

Other than the shop, I have noticed that there were very interesting moments of "connection", I have been able to know what would exactly happen with some friends/people and stuff in my life, I have had very incredible intuitions and I have been able to manifest things that I had been looking to bring into my life for some time.

This is amazing. I yet have to try ormus and meditation together to see if it brings anything extra in.
I have only had a sample size of the stuff. I do not know yet if I'll buy any more after. I'd like to see what else it can bring.
Keeping it under my pillow hasn't done much of a difference so far. I'll keep on testing and write updates when I pick up something else...

Thank you though Nic, for sharing this. The experience has been very particular

[Painter]

Wow, it sounds as if the Universe was speeding things along to get to the point your at now. That may be why 3 customers were rude to you the same day. So the situation could complete itself and come the a better end. Atleast thats the feeling I get.
I know its hard when your the only woman. I worked in a plant for years next to only men. I knew more but felt as if I had to earn any respect given constanly. If given the choice I would like a mix of male and female to work with but never do I wish to work with only women. Believe me that can be worse sometimes depending on the situation. Blessings.

[modernthing]

Well, it's that exact same feeling I get from working there... It's like I constantly need to battle to earn respect from people, and because I'm a woman in a "male" environment, it is even tougher. I sometimes get people who refuse to talk to me because I am a woman, or they think I'm a secretary, while I'm rather the "bring it on" type, as I'm very technical and I know I am skilled in what I do.

Yes, I was surprised at first, I felt like "Ormus WTF !!!!!" but then realised when it all had happened that something VERY good was actually coming out of this, and that there was a good reason why it had happened.

At least now my colleagues are paying more attention to the way some customers treat me. Which makes me feel much much lighter some of the pressure just vanished

[blossom]

I just had the most Blissful, and wonderful meditation session after taking my first sip of nics Ormus brew, and I've honestly never experienced anything like it! Sounds incredible...but it's true.
My whole body seemed to just feel more comfortable to me...and I'm usually already pretty comfortable in my own skin. I did just have a training session in the MA I study, so that no doubt added to it. I did a chord cutting exercise and found that it seemed more of a tangible feeling that the gunk around my chakras was clearing quite quickly. Also, I felt my roots go into the earth with greater ease, like my ability to visualise was enhanced, which has been an ongoing thing for me to develop over the years.
Everything just felt really clear, and after only a minute or two after I took a sip, like a capful of the stuff.
I'm about to go to bed, and am looking forward to any dreams or astral travels that may occur, as I asked to go on a little journey...tee hee

Will report any other wonders tomorrow...

[sweetmotion]

I can't wait to get my own Ormus. I know it will be a great experience!

[nicbrahms]

Originally Posted by blossom

I just had the most Blissful, and wonderful meditation session after taking my first sip of nics Ormus brew, and I've honestly never experienced anything like it! Sounds incredible...but it's true.
My whole body seemed to just feel more comfortable to me...and I'm usually already pretty comfortable in my own skin. I did just have a training session in the MA I study, so that no doubt added to it. I did a chord cutting exercise and found that it seemed more of a tangible feeling that the gunk around my chakras was clearing quite quickly. Also, I felt my roots go into the earth with greater ease, like my ability to visualise was enhanced, which has been an ongoing thing for me to develop over the years.
Everything just felt really clear, and after only a minute or two after I took a sip, like a capful of the stuff.
I'm about to go to bed, and am looking forward to any dreams or astral travels that may occur, as I asked to go on a little journey...tee hee

Will report any other wonders tomorrow...

Oh wonderful, I am loving this ormus vibe we got going on. I can wholeheartedly say that I have managed my spiritual growth in such a short time to this extent with the help of my beloved ormus.

I know all of you are going to love the effects of it and what it brings to you, and modernthing that was brilliant what happened to you. It does help issues come to the forefront and then dissolves them or provides the requisite response. Brilliant.

Its like the most perfect thing we can take at this time of spiritual growth because we can tell it what we expect from it, we can programme it, we can hold intentions around it and it takes them on.

Fantastic stuff.

Made me want to take loads now. I do wonder what would happen if I truly tried to saturate myself with it.

In fact I am gonna add some to my bath water and see what that brings. I have heard some interesting stories about that.

Peace and love.

[nicbrahms]

Oh I just wanted to say that if you can, it is good to hold ormus in your mouth for a while, swill it around if you can bear the taste. It's absorption is increased that way, or else stomach acid can neutralise some of the effect.

I have even rubbed it on my pineal, any sores, cuts, bruises, I even wash my hair in it. After all it is the elixir of youth, which explains why I look so young and quite frankly gorgeous. (down ego, down boy).

Anyway, the best thing is my teeth are super strong, all the enamel has come back and they look super healthy and I know it was cause of ormus.

I have also had my hair colour restored from using it. I had some greys, they have gone now, come back to brown.

You can even put it on your face and people have reported that their wrinkles diminish somewhat.

Anyway food for thought.

Toodles

[missbhaven]

I'll be getting myself a batch this week!!

[Painter]

I have a good and bad report.

THE GOOD SIDE:
Last nights full moon was nestling its self on the ridge of Warrior Mountians as I drove home. I had been to my sons house, which has miles of country roads.
It sat upon the tree tops as if to say "Look at me. I am so big tonite". And of course, my eyes kept glancing into it at every stop sign or light. My thought was to get home and catch a pic before it moved off the trees but I was to late. However upon getting home I didn't come right inside. I sat in a chair above the field and moon gazed. I spoke to God and embraced the Universe. It was a calming experience. As if the last of my stress just melted away.

Then all of a sudden I felt something off balance. My head spun around inside and I felt fear. But not my fear. And not a persons fear either. I tried to get a grip on who or whats fear I was picking up but couldn't. At that point I came inside and sat down to the computer. Thats when I felt a cold wind around my hands. Just spinning. It only lasted around ten seconds. I didn't see anything, just felt it. I felt a desire to close my eyes and did. Then I saw a flash of a mouth with teeth. Open jaws and coming at my face.

THE BAD SIDE:
This morning my neighbor called me and said her dog had been attacked. Its a medium sized but short little poddle type dog. She weighs in at around 20 lbs..
She let her out this morning and when she came back she was biten and had been rolled in straw. There are only a few places here that have pine trees so we're trying to find the place it happened. After shaving the poor baby down they saw 4 tooth holes and two large gashes all around the head and neck. Right now it looks like she'll be o.k. But its not good and she is old.

Now granted we do have leash laws before anyone asks, but this is family land for many acres so our dogs do run lose for short periods of time to potty. Plus its a valley so they never take up off the into rocky slopes. However, They like to go to the creek area which is a good 3 acres from her house. It was either a hunting dog that got lost or a bore. Right now it appears that it could have been a pig. The gashes fit a wild pig attack more than a dog. And the hunting camp let 200 baby bores go free two years back. Now its hunting season and sometimes they end up here to run from the hunters. But it could have been anything big enough.

My little vision looked like a dog but then again I just saw a little hair and a mouth. I'm going to try to figure it out. All of our dogs are locked up now. I never allow mine out for long and for now it will be on her lead. But I am still puzzled and I'm hoping I can somehow "see" something again that will tell me more.

[nicbrahms]

Originally Posted by Painter

I have a good and bad report.

THE GOOD SIDE:
Last nights full moon was nestling its self on the ridge of Warrior Mountians as I drove home. I had been to my sons house, which has miles of country roads.
It sat upon the tree tops as if to say "Look at me. I am so big tonite". And of course, my eyes kept glancing into it at every stop sign or light. My thought was to get home and catch a pic before it moved off the trees but I was to late. However upon getting home I didn't come right inside. I sat in a chair above the field and moon gazed. I spoke to God and embraced the Universe. It was a calming experience. As if the last of my stress just melted away.

Then all of a sudden I felt something off balance. My head spun around inside and I felt fear. But not my fear. And not a persons fear either. I tried to get a grip on who or whats fear I was picking up but couldn't. At that point I came inside and sat down to the computer. Thats when I felt a cold wind around my hands. Just spinning. It only lasted around ten seconds. I didn't see anything, just felt it. I felt a desire to close my eyes and did. Then I saw a flash of a mouth with teeth. Open jaws and coming at my face.

THE BAD SIDE:
This morning my neighbor called me and said her dog had been attacked. Its a medium sized but short little poddle type dog. She weighs in at around 20 lbs..
She let her out this morning and when she came back she was biten and had been rolled in straw. There are only a few places here that have pine trees so we're trying to find the place it happened. After shaving the poor baby down they saw 4 tooth holes and two large gashes all around the head and neck. Right now it looks like she'll be o.k. But its not good and she is old.

Now granted we do have leash laws before anyone asks, but this is family land for many acres so our dogs do run lose for short periods of time to potty. Plus its a valley so they never take up off the into rocky slopes. However, They like to go to the creek area which is a good 3 acres from her house. It was either a hunting dog that got lost or a bore. Right now it appears that it could have been a pig. The gashes fit a wild pig attack more than a dog. And the hunting camp let 200 baby bores go free two years back. Now its hunting season and sometimes they end up here to run from the hunters. But it could have been anything big enough.

My little vision looked like a dog but then again I just saw a little hair and a mouth. I'm going to try to figure it out. All of our dogs are locked up now. I never allow mine out for long and for now it will be on her lead. But I am still puzzled and I'm hoping I can somehow "see" something again that will tell me more.

Again, amazing. Is this normal stuff you would pick up on or is it enhanced by the ormus you are taking?

Other than that it is pretty amazing. Stay with it for there is always a reason anything happens.

It will probably happen again but I hope it is what you want from the experience.

[Painter]

Is this normal stuff you would pick up on or is it enhanced by the ormus you are taking?

I have kind of gotten these flashes before but not like this. Before I questioned them to much. And I'm not really sure this IS what I want from it. It did feel forced on me, so to speak. It broke my positve vibe I had going at that moment ya know.

[Painter]

Oh I also meant to say that I did get that positve vibe back. Once the little doggie was getting taken care of. I actually thought about sending her healing thoughts then, but something stopped me. That "something" was not negative, more of a gut feeling. It just felt as if I shouldn't. So I followed that gut feeling.

However as far as what I want from this experience, I want to see it so I will know if we have something dangerous in the forest getting to close. So ya see, if I can do that it would be a positive thing.

[nicbrahms]

Well you know what to do.

Tell the ormus what you want from it, it must have picked something up from an intention or thought you had around it.

It is clever, talk to it, with good vibes and intention and intend for positve experiences etc.

I think you know what to do, you are very astute and very with it.

But don't forget ormus will take you through things, it thinks you need to go through to get somewhere, cathartic.

I accidentally wished my ego dead whilst on it, I went through hell for two weeks, until I realised what I had done.

I soon remedied it.

Peace

[blossom]

I had the intuition to do this when I woke up...swill it around in my mouth for a while...though I didn't really do it for long, I guess I did feel like last night it left a very slight sensation of not quite burning, but a similar feeling, on my tongue, hard to describe, like a numb heat, but very mild? Was this the lye?

Also, I'm wondering if washing it down with water does anything to disperse or (i'm trying to find the right word here...) make it less potent? I find the after taste a bit off putting, so I took a water chaser after a sip of it. My intuition says I only need small sips at this stage!

Originally Posted by nicbrahms

Oh I just wanted to say that if you can, it is good to hold ormus in your mouth for a while, swill it around if you can bear the taste. It's absorption is increased that way, or else stomach acid can neutralise some of the effect.

I have even rubbed it on my pineal, any sores, cuts, bruises, I even wash my hair in it. After all it is the elixir of youth, which explains why I look so young and quite frankly gorgeous. (down ego, down boy).

Anyway, the best thing is my teeth are super strong, all the enamel has come back and they look super healthy and I know it was cause of ormus.

I have also had my hair colour restored from using it. I had some greys, they have gone now, come back to brown.

You can even put it on your face and people have reported that their wrinkles diminish somewhat.

Anyway food for thought.

Toodles

[Painter]

But don't forget ormus will take you through things, it thinks you need to go through to get somewhere, cathartic.

I accidentally wished my ego dead whilst on it, I went through hell for two weeks, until I realised what I had done.

Thats for telling me that because I can see how it can be easy to forget when things start coming at me.

And I'm interested in what blossom is asking too. I have the Full moon wet ormus. I perfer it in water. But I wish I knew if you have to mix it fresh or if I can pre-mix it.

[Painter]

I forgot to tell ya'll I made some ormus soap. I make natural bath and body items. I had read about some skin treaments with ormus in them so I figured why not?
I've been using it two days. It does seem to firm the skin without drying it out. Of course I added vitamin E oil.

[nicbrahms]

Do whatever you like with it, with regards to water. Just use your intuition.

The slight alkaline taste is the ph which is slightly higher than water. Just add water if it is distasteful.

Our natural state is best at a alkaline state and ormus helps that occur too.

Good all round, I chase mine with water too.

[billionairekid]

Hey nic, what recommendations can you give for the use of ormus for healing? I ordered some healing ormus as I want to heal my eyesight. I would like to restore 20/20 vision to both eyes. Can you offer any suggestions?

[nicbrahms]

Originally Posted by billionairekid

Hey nic, what recommendations can you give for the use of ormus for healing? I ordered some healing ormus as I want to heal my eyesight. I would like to restore 20/20 vision to both eyes. Can you offer any suggestions?

Well I would just take it and see if it helps. Some people have washed there eyes out with it but it stings.

One thing, that I would recommend for sorting your eyes out is sungazing.

You stare at the sun for 10 secs, morning or early evening only. And gradually increase it each day by 10 seconds.

It restores vision, helps you absorb cosmic light and has a whole host of other benefits. Look it up.

[Mynder]

Originally Posted by nicbrahms

One thing, that I would recommend for sorting your eyes out is sungazing.

I politely but firmly disagree. Staring into the sun can do all kinds of things to the eyes...pretty much all of them bad and dangerous:

Sungazing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You might try eye exercises. Strengthening the muscles in your eyes is at least somewhat plausible in terms of improving eyesight again, and won't hurt your eyes even if it turns out to not be helpful.

[blossom]

Originally Posted by Mynder

I politely but firmly disagree. Staring into the sun can do all kinds of things to the eyes...pretty much all of them bad and dangerous:

Sungazing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You might try eye exercises. Strengthening the muscles in your eyes is at least somewhat plausible in terms of improving eyesight again, and won't hurt your eyes even if it turns out to not be helpful.

I'd always been taught this as well mynder...but then there is alot of misinformation out there. Still, common sense prevails that if you stare into a flaming ball of nuclear pure fierce hotness, it can't be too good for the old eyeballs, which are after all extremely delicate.

That's one thing I will pass on...but the gentle exercises I can endorse