Ormus- the elixir of life, the philosopher's stone.

[beatnix]

Very interesting that Jim Self recommends Ascended Health

I came across them after listening to a blogtalkradio interview with Ben Goodwin. I wanted to order from them but they only use FedEx or UPS for foreign orders so the high shipping cost put me off for the time being.

themaster, please let us know how you get on with it

[Federer]

Now i love this thread.

[nicbrahms]

The only thing that seperates is our boundaries or illusions of seperation, all is one, we are all one in consciousness.

I have dissolved much of the illusion of nicbrahms, the boundary is becoming thinner and thinner. I interact with myself as the illusion and soon I hope to become aware of myself as the illusion completely.

In saying that ormus is my consciousness in the form of my mind, it is closer to pure consciousness than any other configuration of consciousness that is present in myself. Hence its power.

I understand this better than ever, it is me and the more I grow the stronger it becomes. I am giving to and taking of myself in ormus.

I understand why it is so effective as a permission slip. As I become, myself as all becomes.

Do you understand?

[dmac]

Dear Nicolette,
hi this is my 1st post here...
i appreciate your communications here, and am looking to find a UK supplier of ORMUS- are you still supplying - how can i get in touch with you if you are, and if not who would you recommend? I like the look of the blue alchemy site and products, but the costs will add up as i know from past experience with tax on top of mail costs etc etc
the time has come, and i really would like try some..
thanks
Duncan

[themaster]

Originally Posted by beatnix

Very interesting that Jim Self recommends Ascended Health

I came across them after listening to a blogtalkradio interview with Ben Goodwin. I wanted to order from them but they only use FedEx or UPS for foreign orders so the high shipping cost put me off for the time being.

themaster, please let us know how you get on with it

I want to be clear.. he said quote from the email.. "This is a company that I am very familiar with. Their teeth an gum products are exceptional, we use them and have very good success." I guess.. since he said we.. he means him and roxane

Make a note he didn't say.. anything about ormus however.. ormus is listed under "dental" in a certain part of the site..

Originally Posted by nicbrahms

The only thing that seperates is our boundaries or illusions of seperation, all is one, we are all one in consciousness.

I have dissolved much of the illusion of nicbrahms, the boundary is becoming thinner and thinner. I interact with myself as the illusion and soon I hope to become aware of myself as the illusion completely.

In saying that ormus is my consciousness in the form of my mind, it is closer to pure consciousness than any other configuration of consciousness that is present in myself. Hence its power.

I understand this better than ever, it is me and the more I grow the stronger it becomes. I am giving to and taking of myself in ormus.

I understand why it is so effective as a permission slip. As I become, myself as all becomes.

Do you understand?

I understand.. Nic

But I want you to understand or concur..

We designed this reality, yes?

And as such.. we did design physical things in that they work at different levels.. yes..?? for example.. you could use a rock to take out a tooth or a dentist (yah, that's a bad analogy) but what I'm saying is.. you could use back medication to heal or you could use ormus.. each has a different designed effect yes?? And one may be more effective as a treatment then another?

Even if they both allow healing.. to put it another way.. when we designed this reality.. we created "cause and effect"

[LawTalkingGuy]

Just got my shipment from Gary Young with the ORMUS. He also sent me some sample vials with ormus that he said was created using the method he sells on ebay (collecting dew I guess)?

REALLY curious to try it out -- anyone want to chime in with some recent experiences?!?!

[missbhaven]

Ok I've decided to share my lil ormus story with you guys.
A couple of months ago I got a bottle of ormus from a local. When I was near the end of that bottle, I felt inspired to go into my garden. With an eyedropper, I gave a few select plants a couple of drops of ormus each then gave 'em a good soak.
Now I must say, my favorite rose that looked that it was on it's last limb has bloomed 4 times aready with at least 4 flowers each round. This one I thought was dead but gave ormus just in case just shoot up high and had it's first bloom of 3. My other roses are starting to grow taller than me becuase when I cut the head off the dead flower it comes back bigger and harder with more buds each time. And I think I just may let this round go for my climbing roses and try making a batch of rosehip jam.
My hot pepper plant which I hoped would come back is already flowering and has growth half way up to where it was when I brought it from the store. And I know it's just the begining.
My jasmine... It's gonna need a bigger pot or at least a bigger trellis to climb.
My poor aloe! This plant has taken a beating and keeps on ticking. It's fallen twice and lost leaves, and the otherday my boyfriend left it outside overnight (when I told him not to put the plant outside, it's fine) which was too cold soo I lost all the big leaves. I told the plant, I would trim it up and give it some ormus soo it can start growing some new shoots. 2 days later, I go with my sissors and ormus and this plant got the green back into top 2 leaves and already had a new shoot coming up. WOW. It was one I wish I had a picture for.
I have a double daylily that is in the shade of a tree, so it doesn't do that well, maybe about 5 flowers. This year there are over 35 buds on the plant.
The star though, is my blackberry plant, I gave it the heaviest dose also. Now this thing is a grower naturally, I brought labeled as a shrub, it was a lie! This thing is a damn shrubby vine, it's crawling all over my lawn. The past few years it did well, but nothing like this year. I would estimate that normally we would get about 2-3 cups from the plant. This year, lets just say it's mid season and I picked 2 cups each day I've been out the past 3 times this week. We've started to freeze them now becuase we've eaten our fill.
It's next to my spearmint. Now I know mint is crazy. But boy it musta had some overflow from the blackberry becuase it just went NUTS! I had to raze the whole lot today, I have a big soup size mason jar of just the flowers.

What didn't do soo well.
My raspberries... I think, they would have done great if I had them in a more sunny location. They survived the tent catapillers and the leaves grew great, I got way more fruit than normal also, but they just have about 3 nubs for fruit (to barely call it raspberry) on it.
And my lavender. It did about the same, nothing noteworthy. Though the bees seemed more attracted to it this year.
My lilies They are my favorite. I've been having a problem with aphids, I hoped planting the blackberry next to them would attract birds but no. This year also they merrily chomped them down agian. Everytime I went over this section.... These aphids, my lillies are like swingers club central... can't walk by one lily without seeing 3 of them just boinking. So I can't say if it helped them or just made them tastier to the aphids.

I just want it to be known though gardening is in my family, I am not the green thumb. I've killled mint an a pot. My indoor plants often have to survive dessert like conditions due to my forgetfulness. Though I would like to get my own farm one day, I don't normally have the patience, memory, or time needed for gardening. Since taking ormus, I spend a lot more time outside, whether it is in my garden or out going for walks.

I haven't made the normal version yet (no ph paper or meter) but I've made the oil method with magnetic tape and a mason jar in may. I have 2 sets, one with celtic sea salt and 1 with pink salt. I've been using this as my moisturizer/tanning oil since I've made it. The effects of the celtic salt are soo mild compared to the the bottles of liqiud ormus I've received elsewhere, so mild I forgot about it (until I gave my boyfriend and sent his body into a detox shock ). The pink himalayan salt version gives you this peaceful happy zing/rush when you apply it. I've used the left over salt in both to make sea salt scrub for the shower also, it's great becuase you don't need to moisturize after!

[MidasGirl]

Ok, so I've been taking Ormus for a few days now. This thing should come with a fair warning: "Do not take unless ready to jump partner". Or "Do not take if in LD relationship." WTH? It's not like I need something adding to anything that's already brimming.

In any case, I guess I'm waiting for the other subtle effects to show up, but this is the obvious one so far.

[themaster]

Hey, I'm with you MidasGirl.. I've been taking ormus since about I dunno maybe the 26th or so.. (I plan to keep taking it until my supply runs dry.. 3-6 months is a guess.. and then I'm going to have my teeth checked out.. as I'm taking it for my teeth primarily.. faster ascension is a bonus )

I've had all kinds of weird symptoms.. just today I was walking outside for just a second and a part of my foot just all the sudden "went into pain" and I thought maybe there was a spider or "nail/tack" in my shoe but nope..

And there was no damage on the spot that hurt..

And I've just been having weird things like that happen where parts of my body hurt for no reason.. I also experienced a headache this afternoon.. but found a walk (which I never do) surprisingly helped..

However, I'm not sure this weirdness was not going on before I started playing with ormus..

I'm taking or trying to (don't have a measuring thing) 1/4 a teaspoon as prescribed on my label..

(but yah a rewarning.. warning this stuff is supposed to be a "ass kicker") now consider yourself warned "midasgirl"

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by kidkarma

I got the fourrealms ormus today. It came as a grey powder in a little vial. Its taken sublingualy. I do feel a caffein like energy boost after taking it

kk: how's the fourrealms powder doing for you now that you have had it for a some time?

[SpiritWnd]

Greetings everyone.

Not new to the world of ORMUS. However, in the reading of the forum threads, I was wondering what healing manifestations have occurred to any/all of you. Especially since you are getting certain minerals the body requires in a more concentrated dose.

Aside from the increase in energy and libido, awareness, dream-state and intuition enhancements that have been well documented here. Are there any other changes in your perceptions that you have noticed? Any enhancements to psi abilities?

Thanks

[AzureRain]

I don't mean to be one to rain on parades, however I need to interject something.

When I started reading about this "ormus" I found the process similar to something that my grandfather did back in Minnesota that his father taught him to do when they were in Sweden. He was "curing the land" or "making the plants feel better". He would take these solutions and "cold boil" them the create a white pulpy material that he would give the plants.

His plants and veggies were big and beautiful, and I will not deny the ability that it has on plants. However, someone did ask about it being tested for "content". The website you reference "subtleenergies.com" makes a statement on the following link: ORMUS 2 of 3

"5. Thoroughly wash the precipitate. It is calcium hydroxide, magnesium hydroxide, and a small amount of m-state material."

Nick, you spoke of having to go to the "loo" often. That is the magnesium hydroxide which is used for that purpose. As a matter of note a brand name of magnesium hydroxide is "Milk of Magnesia®".

It is the calcium hydroxide that has me concerned. Calcium hydroxide is on the MSDS referenced at: MSDS Number 475-40

It is not entirely a good friend to the human body. While it is widely used in agriculture to help reduces th Ph of the land and is also know as: Slaked Lime. Slaked lime is a active ingredient in: mortar, cements, some paints and petrochemicals. Slack lime has been linked to a long list of problems, including organ failure and cancer.

When Calcium Hydroxide and Magnesium Hydroxide are mixed together, they produce an awesome plant food and will help in the super growth of the plants, as has been exhibited by many test results, pics on subtleenergy.com, my grandfathers garden.

My question than becomes this. Is dealing with Calcium Hydroxide worth all the risks involved in order to get the trace amounts of m-state that are claimed to be in the solution? Because from what I have seen of the mixtures. That is a high content of slack lime that is being created.

Edit (Addition added): I forgot to mention, that while slacked lime is used in the "pickling process" it is used to help reduce the Ph of in that process if the levels get to high. So, as with the Lye being used in the making of said Ormus, it is neutralized in the process.

Note though that you are doing nothing to neutralize the Calcium Hydroxide you ingesting it. Which is why organ failure is listed as a hazard as it will reduce the PH of your blood and body.

Perhaps you are doing something to counter the Calcium Hydroxide - that would be that you have an acidic diet. The forum mentions increase libido and you (Nic) mentioned your monthly cycle wasn't as painful as it had been prior. Both of which have documentation of increase libido and decrease PMS issues with an alkaline diet. In this case, you might be balancing your PH out with the Calcium Hydroxide thus increasing your sex drive and decreasing your any pain/discomfort usually encountered during your monthly cycle.

Also, the difference between Calcium Hydroxide and Calcium Oxide is the presence of water, you can move it back and forth between states. So, please look up the hazards of both.

I was curious also as to where is this Calcium coming from if it is salt (NaCl) is the originating source. Than I found this reference: Caveman to Chemist Projects: Lime and Lye

Where there is a point which they discuss making Lye: "Lye can be made very easily from lime and soda ash using a classic metathesis reaction:

(V) Ca(OH)2(aq) + Na2CO3(aq) -----> 2 NaOH(aq) + CaCO3(s)

Two solutions are mixed together and a solid precipitate forms. The "good stuff," lye, remains in solution."

Is this salt/lye combination actually forcing a reversal of the process used to make the lye in the first place returning it back to Calcium Hydroxide?

Again, not trying to rain on parades. I am bring up possible health related issues and the source of the questioning is from your source website when they state that the resulting ingredients are: calcium hydroxide, magnesium hydroxide and a small amount of m-state.

[AzureRain]

Interesting article from 1926 discussing the yields of Calcium Hydroxide and Magnesium Hydroxide from sea water with the addition of an alkali (lye) to the solution. Demonstrates the yields at pH 10 - 11.

http://sabella.mba.ac.uk/727/01/The_..._sea_water.pdf

[HeartExalted]

It has been said in this thread that ormus will find you when you are ready for it. Earlier, I had read about it on here and was intrigued - but also put off by the idea of ingesting such a chemical (which, as I have since read, does not necessarily require being ingested). More recently, though, I have felt more open to the idea because I like the idea of experiencing the benefits others have.

What happened yesterday was particularly striking. I felt this urge to read this very thread, so I opened it up. Somehow, I found myself just plowing right through the thread, reading it with an almost unnatural amount of motivation. As I did, I felt myself become more and more open to the idea, despite whatever safety concerns I might have.

I will need to do more discernment before taking the plunge, but I feel as if I'm moving in that direction. Yesterday, I made the intention: I intend to deepen my relationship with ormus. It's very open-ended and could mean things as simple as learning more about it or talking to others who have used it.

Very fascinating, to say the least!

[dmac]

Hi all,
I have been trying to get a response from Nicbrahms and have failed..
any idea if she is still around..
i am trying to find a source for LYE in ok for Ormus making.
any help would be most appreciated.
Thanks

[nicbrahms]

Originally Posted by dmac

Hi all,
I have been trying to get a response from Nicbrahms and have failed..
any idea if she is still around..
i am trying to find a source for LYE in ok for Ormus making.
any help would be most appreciated.
Thanks

Hi

still here, I did respond to PM you sent me, perhaps you didn't get it.

Lye is caustic soda over here, and you can get it at most supermarkets, hardware stores etc.

Hope that helps.

[dmac]

Oh, Thanks Nic...but i didn't get a reply! no new messages in my 'private messages' folder ..... strange... cos i also asked if could get some more of your Ormus sent to me if you are still making?
The other thing my friend is looking for is a PH measuring instrument?
Can you recommend a good source for that? Sorry but we are complete chemical illiterates.
your assistance is much appreciated.

perhaps you could send your reply again?

warmly yours
dmac

[Darren]

Originally Posted by dmac

Oh, Thanks Nic...but i didn't get a reply! no new messages in my 'private messages' folder ..... strange... cos i also asked if could get some more of your Ormus sent to me if you are still making?
The other thing my friend is looking for is a PH measuring instrument?
Can you recommend a good source for that? Sorry but we are complete chemical illiterates.
your assistance is much appreciated.

perhaps you could send your reply again?

warmly yours
dmac

You can find a PH measuring instrument in any gardening or DIY store. They're not expensive either.

[kidkarma]

Hows it going in everybodies Ormus Adventure?

[earthman]

Originally Posted by kidkarma

Hows it going in everybodies Ormus Adventure?

Hopefully i can contibute soon. just now ordered some after reading this whole wonderful thread.

[Nimue]

Originally Posted by AzureRain

Interesting article from 1926 discussing the yields of Calcium Hydroxide and Magnesium Hydroxide from sea water with the addition of an alkali (lye) to the solution. Demonstrates the yields at pH 10 - 11.

http://sabella.mba.ac.uk/727/01/The_..._sea_water.pdf

Hello AzureRain! Welcome to the forums (though I thought I had seen your name around before?)

I like your essay on the matter...(especially the part about PH balancing)
Chemicals aren't to be taken lightly, I wish someone paid more attention to it. Health is an important issue. Even if some medicines with harmful substances are helpful on occasion, they may be harmful, even dangerous, if used recklessly.

[kidkarma]

Originally Posted by wolfgang

kk: how's the fourrealms powder doing for you now that you have had it for a some time?

It had no effect on me at all.

[kidkarma]

I just got 8 Grams of wpg from Gary.
It would very amazing If I could find a Fully Annealed ormus product.
i asked Gary, and he said even if he made it he wouldnt sell it as its too powerful.

Also, everyone check out this site Samadhi Temporary Enlightenment Water Emotional Healing Water Meditation

[Federer]

Dear lovely Nic,

I have been thinking lot about your unconditional love posts. I remembered everything. This was the thread where i felt them all very interesting and divine love.

I found this again. I will be reading this all from now on after typing this message.

Thank you and love, peace to you my wonderful buddy.
R.

[GranDiosa]

I've been taking Ormus (from alchemicalselixirs.com) for about 7 or 10 days but don't really feel any different. Before I started drinking it I slept with it next to my pillow (for about 4 nights or so) and I did have very weird dreams.

I ordered a few days ago from Blue Water Alchemy so I hope this one will make me feel something.....while awake


x

[Starseed Matt]

Hi Guys,

Im new to all this and I would like some help. I've read all of Thread and I would love to try Ormus, is Nic still with us? Id like to ask a couple of Questions if you wouldnt mind so kindly

[Sbonn]

I believe nic has left the forum, her profile shows banned but read a thread where she requested the mods to turn off her account ( aka ban it )

Shame too because I am interested in this thread as well.

On that note is anyone who posted to this thread still doing the Ormus?

[mallie]

Hi sbonn,

I saw your post and I was wondering if you are planning on trying the ormus? I have found it quite fascinating and I am going to order some - the only problem is that there seems to be quite a few companies out there selling ormus. Have you tried pm'ing some of the past posters on this thread to see if they are still taking the ormus?

[Sbonn]

Hi Mallie, No I have not tried to PM other past posters on this thread to see if any are still using Ormus or what were their final conclusions regarding their experiences with it.

I had hope that someone would have popped by and said something but nope none have thus far.

I am curious as well and I too was mulling purchasing some.

I did some prelim reading off the links provided in the thread and still need to do further reading.

The thread caught my eye the other day when it got bumped up by someone else asking about it and the read was long but I made it through.

[mallie]

Hi sbonn,

I was the same way - the post got bumped and I decided to read it Well like they say in this post - ormus finds you when you are ready. So maybe we are both ready! I did find the link to denis of oz if you need it cuz I emailed that email address in the very first post of this thread and I have not received an answer but then as I was searching the internet I came across the website. I may just stick to buying ormus in the US vs out in another country cuz then you have customs and much higher shipping costs cuz denis of oz is in austrailia. Plus there is a ton of companies selling it. I don't think I would buy it from ebay - my fear is that it looks a lot like cocaine and it could very well cut with a halleucinagenic (I hope I spelled that right) drug. I don't know about you but it really sounded sometimes like nic was on a drug high at times so I kinda wonder what she was taking. At least with a brick and mortar company vs ebay you know you will be getting a non-drug product - not that I am saying that ebay is selling drug ormus but I'd rather be safe than sorry.

I have to get to work now so maybe if you have some time you could pm some of these people to see if they are still on it or if they stopped - why did they stop and where they bought their ormus. From the research I have done it seems like some ormus will work really well for one person and not for another and I guess sometimes you just have to try a couple companies and see which product works best. Of course, I guess I would just go with my intuition. I am definetly going to buy some of this stuff cuz it seems like it can help with energy, low moods, manifesting, intuition, etc.

Also, be sure to check out my new threads about crystals and manifesting. Angel psychic gave some good links to some prosperity crystals. Let's keep in touch - you and I may be the only ones on this forum taking ormus!! lol!! I could also pm some people when I get home. Have a great day! Talk to you later