Subjective Reality Confusion !!

[Angela]

Mounds, if see that baby and your sister as aspects of my consciousness, I have more access to compassion, understanding and generosity than if I see them as separate and unrelated creatures from "Angela."

SR isn't for being unsympathetic and heartless, although there are some avatars who do use it that way. It's just a lens, and looking through it, you'll see reality as a reflection of what you are being.

I'm sorry about your hurt in this discussion, and much love to your sister.

[Light Reality]

Originally Posted by cylon

Why are you so sure they are REAL people? Why did you put it in uppercase like that? Seems to me this topic is causing you a lot of frustration.

I can't believe how distant you can be to a whole CONTINENT just because you don't interact with them. What if you were a starving child in Africa but also knew about the principles of SR???

I havn't been there myself but have seen enough documentaries and know friends who have been to realize that there is massive poverty in this world and that it is REAL.

[Light Reality]

Originally Posted by icutoffheads

its easier to save yourself than something outside and separate from you.

if i spent my time completed consumed by images of war, death, disease, poverty, and starvation, i'd take a look at me, and how i'm creating that, rather than sit and watch and send more negative emotions there way. you can give a charity 50 cents a day if you want, if you believe it'll actually do something and make you feel better. i say we all work on saving ourselves, so that we save them in the process/ but hey that's just me,

Well if ANYONE spent their time completly consumed by that stuff they'd be miserable. That isn't the case if you've been following the thread. I just wanted to know opinion from people who believe in SR and how THEY deal with this.

[Angela]

Originally Posted by Light Reality

I havn't been there myself but have seen enough documentaries and know friends who have been to realize that there is massive poverty in this world and that it is REAL.

Well, they're as real as "you" are -- the aspect of reality you call "yourself." Other aspects of how reality occurs for you are no less real -- so I wouldn't dismiss an aspect of reality that occurs as suffering or hungry or poor as unreal or nothing but a dream. It's an aspect of who I'm being, and in the human game, that's as real as it gets.

Through a lens of SR, to me the aspects of my reality are presentations of something to be dealt with. Dismissing an aspect of my reality, like a hurting person, is just like dismissing a toothache or a bleeding wound -- if it's arising in my reality, there's something that could use some resolving. Sometimes I create aspects that are more "urgent" than others -- the consequences appear more dire. And sometimes I recognize that I don't currently have the resources to effectively resolve it in the "external" world yet, and shifting my focus to where it can be more effectively shone is my best bet. If I continually suppress something uncomfortable that occurs, and I dismiss my responsibility for it, chances are the consequences of it will knock on my door more loudly until I take it on.

Resolution of an uncomfortable aspect of reality begins with looking at who I am being. When I resolve the inner conflict, I suddenly have so much more choice and opportunity in resolving the "outer" conflict -- and sometimes the "outer" conflict just disappears.

[Light Reality]

Originally Posted by icutoffheads

okay, i will try here to give my explanation.

it's not exactly a choice, it's not like you sat down and you were like "hmm that'd just be swell if thousands of folks could starve to death and suffer the ill effects of poverty, that'd just make my life"

no. not exactly.

try to think of it as your external reality just being a reflection of YOU and who YOU are inside. so while it's not exactly a choice for poverty and starvation to exist, its some type of reflection of YOU, the way YOU feel about YOU, the way YOU perceive YOU, the way YOU perceive the world. it all takes place inside of you and you experience it through the reflection and illusion of an external reality.

governments controlling and manipulating people is a direct reflection of our own egos just on a grander scale. its our limitations manifested.

name a smaller problem in your life right now, than look at the way you feel about the problem, and how it could possibly relate in some way to how you view it, how you view yourself or how you view the world "outside". change YOU and YOUR perception and your external reality will mirror that.

feel your tension. what issues do you feel tense about? what aspects of you do you feel tense about? it may feel strange letting that tension go because you are used to living with it, but you should!

I appreciate your explanation.

The stuff I underlined pose a question though if you bare with me.

I am myself, but I am not the only one who influences reality world-wide (in the context of SR) because you are YOU, and YOU think differently to me. So why do YOU allow this suffering to happen and for the corrupt governments (which is the real reason of it IMO) to have control?? THAT'S the point I don't get. The government folk are their own people and have their own identity/mind, I don't control their outcomes. Do you understand my point?

[Anagogy]

Originally Posted by Light Reality

The government folk are their own people and have their own identity/mind, I don't control their outcomes.

It's true, you don't control others because you are not thinking, believing, intending, or desiring for them. They are doing their own creating. But you DO control HOW they affect you. Your conscious reality -- your personal experiences -- are created by you. It doesn't matter what other people choose to experience, how it affects you is entirely dependent upon your beliefs, thoughts, desires, and intent. You only attract experiences that are in resonance with your consciousness. So the more you focus on suffering, the more of it you will see, via the law of attraction.

This is how the outer state reflects the inner state. At any given point in what we call "time", there are any number of perceived negative and perceived positive events going on all over the world (and universe). They are there, they exist. All sorts of different experiences are enfolded within the universal mind (including yours). But it is your personal ego consciousness that determines which particular aspects of this hodge podge of experiencial nexi resonate and interact with you.

As above, so below. As within, so without.

Reality is holographic, meaning, it has a "whole in every part" nature. That which you see out there, is always a vibrational match to what you are feeling inside yourself.

[Light Reality]

Originally Posted by Anagogy

It's true, you don't control others because you are not thinking, believing, intending, or desiring for them. They are doing their own creating. But you DO control HOW they affect you. Your conscious reality -- your personal experiences -- are created by you. It doesn't matter what other people choose to experience, how it affects you is entirely dependent upon your beliefs, thoughts, desires, and intent. You only attract experiences that are in resonance with your consciousness. So the more you focus on suffering, the more of it you will see, via the law of attraction.

This is how the outer state reflects the inner state. At any given point in what we call "time", there are any number of perceived negative and perceived positive events going on all over the world (and universe). They are there, they exist. All sorts of different experiences are enfolded within the universal mind (including yours). But it is your personal ego consciousness that determines which particular aspects of this hodge podge of experiencial nexi resonate and interact with you.

As above, so below. As within, so without.

Reality is holographic, meaning, it has a "whole in every part" nature. That which you see out there, is always a vibrational match to what you are feeling inside yourself.

Ahhh thank you This makes a lot of sense.

But there must be a lot of conflict going on and crossed wires due to all the positive consciousness from one person then the negative from the other?

But it's clear that my own experiences and impacts in my life and 'created' or attracted by me. It's like a web. Thanks.

[Anagogy]

Originally Posted by Light Reality

But there must be a lot of conflict going on and crossed wires due to all the positive consciousness from one person then the negative from the other?

Only if there is conflict inside yourself.

What is "negative" and what is "positive" is really all a matter of perception. If your consciousness is of peace, well being, and joy, you will continue to attract experiences in your life that reflect that. If you are unhappy, frustrated, and depressed, your life experiences will also come to reflect and perpetuate that.

Two people can be walking down the same street and experience things completely differently.

So "conflict" is only experienced when there is conflict within.