Dream Myself Alive

[cylon]

I'm at a cafe right now and they're playing the old song Moon River, a song I was getting really into last night, but it was a newer version by Morrissey I was listening to last night.

It occured to me that this is exactly what could happen in a dream. I would have a dream that I was in a cafe hearing a certain song simply because part of me emotionally connected to that song while I was awake. It doesn't take much for the mind to go out of its way to create an entire new reality. I didn't intend it, I wasn't expecting it, happened anyway.

I think reality is just one big dream and what we're doing here is not trying to create reality, but become lucid.

[SethWilliams]

Originally Posted by cylon

I'm at a cafe right now and they're playing the old song Moon River, a song I was getting really into last night, but it was a newer version by Morrissey I was listening to last night.

It occured to me that this is exactly what could happen in a dream. I would have a dream that I was in a cafe hearing a certain song simply because part of me emotionally connected to that song while I was awake. It doesn't take much for the mind to go out of its way to create an entire new reality. I didn't intend it, I wasn't expecting it, happened anyway.

I think reality is just one big dream and what we're doing here is not trying to create reality, but become lucid.

We dont need to try create reality, were all ready always creating. But yes i agree with the becoming lucid part.

[cylon]

I think two Buddhist nuns just walked into my reality. Shaved heads and robes. I am tripping hard.

[Wax Frog]

With apologies to the Wilson sisters:

Ever since Cy was a baby guy
He didn't want Waxpoofs to make him cry
It was to dream himself -
Dream himself alive

[cylon]

Lol. Crazy stuff is happening to me right now. I can see reality rising and falling with my emotions.

[Anagogy]

Originally Posted by cylon

I think reality is just one big dream and what we're doing here is not trying to create reality, but become lucid.

That's what spirituality is for me, so I empathize with what you're saying here. Incidentally, the more lucid we become, the more control we have over our reality.

[cylon]

Originally Posted by Anagogy

That's what spirituality is for me, so I empathize with what you're saying here. Incidentally, the more lucid we become, the more control we have over our reality.

Right. As I was having this crazy experience today, I thought a bit too about the specific things we talk about creating, money for example.

So maybe we would think of jobs, clients, projects, lotteries, whatever "money" means to you, and what the easiest way to bring those things about is, according to the reality we know.

But now I see that the entire thing is a manifestation, the only reason those are "avenues" I think of is because it's what I know. That entire hierarchy of how things are "supposed" to come to us is just as illusory as anything else.

It's not like there's reality, then we manifest something into that reality. We manifest the whole reality, the canvas and the paint. It's one thing. We don't just create the manifestation, but the very rules we believe are required to bring it about.

At least that's what it feels like right now.

[torilink]

Originally Posted by cylon

It's not like there's reality, then we manifest something into that reality. We manifest the whole reality, the canvas and the paint. It's one thing. We don't just create the manifestation, but the very rules we believe are required to bring it about.

At least that's what it feels like right now.

Beautifully stated. "The very rules we believe are required" - this is key to intentionally manifesting. I refer to it as my egoic filter - my reality if filtered by the beliefs of my ego.

[OlderWiser]

Originally Posted by cylon

I think reality is just one big dream and what we're doing here is not trying to create reality, but become lucid.

Well, once you become lucid, you can learn to manipulate the dream environment. That's the idea, anyway. I like the "reality as lucid dream" model, personally.

But I keep feeling that there's something "beyond" the lucidity. I don't know what would happen or where you would "go" if you woke up completely, or even if it's possible to do so, but I keep having the intuition that there's more beyond lucidity....

Originally Posted by cylon

It's not like there's reality, then we manifest something into that reality. We manifest the whole reality, the canvas and the paint. It's one thing. We don't just create the manifestation, but the very rules we believe are required to bring it about.

I understand that, and it feels completely "right" to me, but I can't "see" it (if that makes sense). I want to. It feels exactly right. I'll meditate on this. Thanks for sharing it.

[cylon]

Originally Posted by torilink

Beautifully stated. "The very rules we believe are required" - this is key to intentionally manifesting. I refer to it as my egoic filter - my reality if filtered by the beliefs of my ego.

Thanks tk! This filter idea I can see visually... little holes in the strainer of what we manifest, mixed with the "non-holes" which I guess would be the blindness of ego, not seeing what's going on.

[cylon]

Originally Posted by OlderWiser

I understand that, and it feels completely "right" to me, but I can't "see" it (if that makes sense). I want to. It feels exactly right. I'll meditate on this. Thanks for sharing it.

It's always a good sign to me when what I say resonates.... more of that "we just know" stuff.

[Piercetheveil]

I think reality is just one big dream and what we're doing here is not trying to create reality, but become lucid.

I am with ya. Though I often talk about creating my own reality it would be more accurate to say that I seek to see reality more clearly without the illusions and BS I surround it with.

Seems lately most of my interaction with people is about that. Oftentimes with me on the witness stand attempting to de-cloak views of me. The challenge for me, just as in with meditation, is to stay with it. No running, no escaping just sit with it.

Thanks for the thread cylon.

[OlderWiser]

Okay, I get it, I think. I see it. And I get what Jesus was saying about telling the mountain to move. Heh. Never did understand that one, but now, it's obvious...

Anyway, one metaphor I thought of was that of playing solitaire. Most people assume that you deal the cards and then play them (react to them) as you turn them over or they are dealt out or whatever. But the actual situation is more like The Matrix or the Holodeck (yes, I watch a lot of sci fi ), where you can, in fact, change EVERYTHING in a moment, if you want to. Instead of turning over a new card and playing it, you could turn over a new card and have all the other cards simultaneously change, as well, including the ones not yet revealed. It completely re-writes itself, or it can. It's not set, it's not solid, it's subjective and if you wanted to change it (and had the understanding and belief that you COULD change it), well, it could all completely change in the blink of an eye.

Generally, we keep continuity because our material minds are pretty much programmed to do that. It's part of the illusion we need in order to keep believing we're separate and that time is linear and so on. And, well, if you suddenly changed the shape of the continents or your gender or re-arranged reality in strange ways, it would probably send you into psychosis or something, I suspect. But if you had enough understanding and belief, you really COULD just change it all. Everything is not only possible, it already exists. All you have to do is reprogram things so that they are that other reality...

This really is doing my head in, but in a good way. (I probably sound like a nutjob, but I'm completely and utterly rational. I know what irrational feels like, and I know what crazy feels like, too. This is actually sanity and then some. Wow. ))

[cylon]

A Jesus breadcrumb.

Maybe those weren't just inspirational "metaphors" after all. A mountain sounds like a big thing to move but that's only based on the idea that it's actually there.

It's a surprise what card you turn over because you assume the card is real and create the odds of how likely it is for you to see a particular one.

Someone earlier in the psychic section mentioned Yoda and how he chastised Luke for thinking that the ship in swamp was too big to move with the force, but that stones were somehow easier because it was different. "No! No different!" a frustrated Yoda admonishes.

Would it actually happen though? Could. Time is infinite and so are we. If it were to happen, it is happening now anyway.

[OlderWiser]

Originally Posted by cylon

A Jesus breadcrumb.

Yes. He did that a LOT. I never understood most of it until I started to expand my awareness (or, rather, my awareness started to expand). Now, stuff makes perfect sense. Same with Zen koans. I get the one about the tree in the forest, for example (but not the frog jumping into the pond, yet). Also some of the metaphors of Buddhism with which I'm familiar have come to make sense. It's weird how it's all there, but it doesn't make sense until it makes sense. If that makes sense.

Originally Posted by cylon

Maybe those weren't just inspirational "metaphors" after all. A mountain sounds like a big thing to move but that's only based on the idea that it's actually there.

Yup.

Originally Posted by cylon

Someone earlier in the psychic section mentioned Yoda and how he chastised Luke for thinking that the ship in swamp was too big to move with the force, but that stones were somehow easier because it was different. "No! No different!" a frustrated Yoda admonishes.

George Lucas studied a lot of eastern philosophy to form the ideas behind The Force. He's a Christian, but after he discovered the eastern stuff, he started calling himself a Zen Methodist.

Originally Posted by cylon

Would it actually happen though? Could. Time is infinite and so are we. If it were to happen, it is happening now anyway.

Yes. This is why it does your head it and why most people won't go there. It's too weird.

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by OlderWiser

This really is doing my head in, but in a good way. (I probably sound like a nutjob, but I'm completely and utterly rational. I know what irrational feels like, and I know what crazy feels like, too. This is actually sanity and then some. Wow. ))

After that whole Lego business, count me as someone you don't need to explain yourself to

Originally Posted by OlderWiser

Same with Zen koans. I get the one about the tree in the forest, for example (but not the frog jumping into the pond, yet)

Maybe it's a Waxy prophecy!

[OlderWiser]

Originally Posted by Wax Frog

Maybe it's a Waxy prophecy!

Yeah, that must be it!