LOA - what if it doesn't match your with in?

[Penelopi]

like for example, you think something positive but in reality your screwed, and you don't know that, will it still work?

[Ravmar]

I'm no expert, but I think it's called overconfidence.

[Anagogy]

Originally Posted by Penelopi

like for example, you think something positive but in reality your screwed, and you don't know that, will it still work?

There is normally a buffer of time between thought and its resultant manifestation.

What you are experiencing right now is the result of the momentum of thoughts from weeks ago. So if you are experiencing something negative right now, it probably won't disappear overnight. It could, but most likely not. The speed of manifestation is a factor of how much source energy you are allowing. This can be detected by how intense your positive emotions are. The presence of intense positive emotion indicates there is very little resistance being activated within you. Instant manifestation is possible, but rare on this physical plane of existence. Physical energy is inherently resistant or "slowly vibrating" material.

If you change your thinking now, you will cease to negatively attract and things will change eventually. It certainly can soften something you are to experience shortly and make it less negative than it was originally going to be.

[Captain Drywall]

Well as Dr Dyer would say, "you have to really really really really really really really want it"

True story: when i was about 19 i bought the dyer book "your erroneous zones". thinking it said erogenous zones. talk about erroneous.

[aabbcc]

Originally Posted by Anagogy

There is normally a buffer of time between thought and its resultant manifestation.

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Instant manifestation is possible, but rare on this physical plane of existence. Physical energy is inherently resistant or "slowly vibrating" material.

I remember one experience where I had three things manifest in quick succession almost immediately after thinking about them. It sounds neat, but it really freaked me out [and they weren't even big manifestations]. I remember actually telling the Universe out loud to stop it.

I appreciate the time buffer so much more now.

Originally Posted by Captain Drywall

True story: when i was about 19 i bought the dyer book "your erroneous zones". thinking it said erogenous zones. talk about erroneous.

[Penelopi]

Originally Posted by Anagogy

There is normally a buffer of time between thought and its resultant manifestation.

What you are experiencing right now is the result of the momentum of thoughts from weeks ago. So if you are experiencing something negative right now, it probably won't disappear overnight. It could, but most likely not. The speed of manifestation is a factor of how much source energy you are allowing. This can be detected by how intense your positive emotions are. The presence of intense positive emotion indicates there is very little resistance being activated within you. Instant manifestation is possible, but rare on this physical plane of existence. Physical energy is inherently resistant or "slowly vibrating" material.

If you change your thinking now, you will cease to negatively attract and things will change eventually. It certainly can soften something you are to experience shortly and make it less negative than it was originally going to be.

what if, it stayed for like 1 1/2 yr? what do you think could happen? is it still possible to get that what your original feelings are? my manifestation was broken! im in a ♥♥♥♥♥.

[aabbcc]

Manifesting isn't so much about thinking as it is feeling. It's the vibration that you are putting out there. You can think positive thoughts, but if you have strong feelings of worry or anxiety over your situation, then you will keep living your current situation. It can be quite useful to really look at what you want to change and then pick out any good aspects you can find about it. Doing this will make the situation seem a bit better and it will help you to move your feelings to a more positive place.

[Penelopi]

Originally Posted by aabbcc

Manifesting isn't so much about thinking as it is feeling. It's the vibration that you are putting out there. You can think positive thoughts, but if you have strong feelings of worry or anxiety over your situation, then you will keep living your current situation. It can be quite useful to really look at what you want to change and then pick out any good aspects you can find about it. Doing this will make the situation seem a bit better and it will help you to move your feelings to a more positive place.

oh i see.... so, if i think positive but im not really happy with my current self (but i think i am) then in reality my vibration is not what i think it really is? "for ex" i feel good about myself because im popular, it boosts my ego but im not happy for some reasons but i still feel confident, no doubt. then what would be my vibration then? sorry if it sounds shallow im just confused. hehe

[Froztwolf]

I'd want to get to the core of the question: How can you be screwed if you don't know it? Until a bad thing happens to you it hasn't happened.
If something others would consider bad happens to you but you don't care about it, it's not a bad thing.
Only in a rigid, objective reality could you be screwed without knowing it. A flexible, subjective reality is at the core of LoA and in there you cannot be screwed without knowing it. (and in fact choosing it)

[Penelopi]

Originally Posted by Froztwolf

I'd want to get to the core of the question: How can you be screwed if you don't know it? Until a bad thing happens to you it hasn't happened.

Like for ex i think positive but im unconsciously an unhappy person(for some reasons), that's what i mean by screwed. is that possible??

If something others would consider bad happens to you but you don't care about it, it's not a bad thing.

really?? but what if they see something bad on the sit that i don't see?? im in trouble then.

Only in a rigid, objective reality could you be screwed without knowing it. A flexible, subjective reality is at the core of LoA and in there you cannot be screwed without knowing it. (and in fact choosing it)

cn u explain further? w/c reality do we live in?? is it objective or subjective??

edit: ok i made a research, i get it now. now that i think of it, my subjective and objective reality are all over the place.

[Froztwolf]

Originally Posted by Penelopi

Like for ex i think positive but im unconsciously an unhappy person(for some reasons), that's what i mean by screwed. is that possible??

really?? but what if they see something bad on the sit that i don't see?? im in trouble then.

cn u explain further? w/c reality do we live in?? is it objective or subjective??

edit: ok i made a research, i get it now. now that i think of it, my subjective and objective reality are all over the place.

While some people have an easier time being happy than others I believe we can all achieve "unconscious" happiness through practice.
Whenever you feel bad about the situation, start watching how you think about it. Try to guide yourself to thinking a little bit more positively about it. Take small steps. Gradually you will condition your subconscious to think more positively about any situation.

To begin with good and bad are value judgments you place on things. If someone else finds that something in your situation is bad, that doesn't mean that you would. I'm sure there are people who would hate to live my life, while I love it.
If you feel a sense of impending doom about using LoA to your advantage, that is probably the first bit of thinking you want to try and redirect. How you think about LoA is going to make a lot of difference in what it can do for you.

I find it hard myself to integrate the idea of a subjective reality into all aspects of my life. While I firmly believe that LoA is one of the fundamental laws of human existence there are a lot of areas where objective reality is firmly ingrained in my head and it's hard to let go of that. But I'm sure we can both get there.

One simple trick that has benefited my a lot is to think or say "wow! That's great!" whenever something happens that I don't like. This tends to force my head into finding a positive side of things and starts me on the baby steps of thinking more positively about it.

[Landi Star]

Originally Posted by Penelopi

like for example, you think something positive but in reality your screwed, and you don't know that, will it still work?

You see... it's really all about thoughts (in the mind) and their consequences.

"You're screwed" or "I'm screwed" is actually a thought which expresses a judgment.

Let's be clear:

A judgmental thought is something that you choose (or if it sneaks up, you can still choose to let it go when you notice it!)

You would know that the negative thought is there because of the lousy way you feel... or by catching yourself thinking that you're screwed up (or that you're life is screwed).


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You said in your post, ... "If you think something positive but in reality you're screwed, and you don't know that, will [LOA] still work?"

In my view and experience, there is nothing unconscious.

If you're evaluating yourself or your life as "screwed up", you would know it, either by the lousy feelings you have (which would lead you to your negative, self-evaluating thoughts) or by noticing the thoughts you're having.

You may not have realized that your lousy feelings about yourself are caused by your negative thoughts… but, in fact, they are!

And you can release or ignore those thoughts… and then you won't "feel" screwed up any more!


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When you learn to be more in charge of what goes through your mind, then you can choose thoughts, images and states that result in good (or "OK") feelings within you… And out of that nicer feeling (or neutral) place, you can more easily attract the good things you want.


OR you could go on thinking/believing that you and your life are screwed up
... and guess what?
LOA will still be working… but, unfortunately, it will bring you lousy feelings and lots of evidence in your life that things are screwed up and that you are screwed up!

You get to choose!


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[Penelopi]

You would know that the negative thought is there because of the lousy way you feel... or by catching yourself thinking that you're screwed up (or that you're life is screwed).

im confused, the thing is i had trouble in my social life and until now its still there. i became like passive whatever who don't assert herself i think its because of what i manifested, or it could be that i really was changing??

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In my view and experience, there is nothing unconscious.

i agree. but i had an experience before when there's this person who questions me. i can feel that he has a doubt in me, i dunno why. then i started becoming unsure of myself that maybe there's something im not aware of!

If you're evaluating yourself or your life as "screwed up", you would know it, either by the lousy feelings you have (which would lead you to your negative, self-evaluating thoughts) or by noticing the thoughts you're having.

i think its when i realized i don't have everything in control.. well i know i can't control ppl, but at least i want them to accept me, but it seems that they hate me. its not an assumption i have proof.

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When you learn to be more in charge of what goes through your mind, then you can choose thoughts, images and states that result in good (or "OK") feelings within you… And out of that nicer feeling (or neutral) place, you can more easily attract the good things you want.

[Strem2]

Originally Posted by Penelopi

like for example, you think something positive but in reality your screwed, and you don't know that, will it still work?

There is a formula. (Belief + Vision)Passion = Manifestation

I think this works every time. Being positive? What do you mean exactly? If it means that you believe that you and God are One and that all will be well, that's a strong belief. If it overpowers any other belief (say that right now you're in a difficult place) you're OK.

You only have to keep your vision in the present tense and keep yourself in it. Finally, this vision has to correspond with or be in harmony with your heart's desire to keep your passion high.

If all that's working, you should be in great shape pretty quickly.

[Penelopi]

Originally Posted by Strem2

There is a formula. (Belief + Vision)Passion = Manifestation

I think this works every time. Being positive? What do you mean exactly? If it means that you believe that you and God are One and that all will be well, that's a strong belief. If it overpowers any other belief (say that right now you're in a difficult place) you're OK.

You only have to keep your vision in the present tense and keep yourself in it. Finally, this vision has to correspond with or be in harmony with your heart's desire to keep your passion high.

If all that's working, you should be in great shape pretty quickly.

ok i get it. i do have that belief before, but as i was growing that belief w/ god was suppressed for certain reasons, but its still there, it never went away. but i guess the present life i have that time and my beliefs are much stronger? i dunno.