|12-11-2009, 12:22 AM||#1 (permalink)|
Join Date: Oct 2009
Busting Loose question
So, I just finished "Busting Loose from the Money Game"...and I can't quite figure out if the author is claiming that the reader is the only person in the universe? On Earth? If EVERYTHING in my world is just a hologram I created to play with it, who are all the other folks? Is there only one person in the universe?
Color Me Confused!
|12-11-2009, 01:13 AM||#3 (permalink)|
Join Date: Dec 2006
From my understanding, all the other people are you. "You" however can only perceive the PART of you that is called LifeIsNotADressRehearsal. I am you as well, but for the purposes of the hologram, you can only see the world through the eyes of your current avatar, even though in reality, there is no difference between you or me, "we" just see the illusion of being separate.
If someone here thinks I'm off track, let me know.
Don't know if that makes much sense. It's a difficult concept, I'm still coming to terms with it. In the book he talks about your dreams and how everything in the dream is YOU. If that part of the book makes sense, then I'd apply that to the "non-dream" world (which is just as illusory as the dream world anyway).
He also says that we can't possibly really understand the problem of "other people" at our current level of consciousness. That's not the most satisfying answer.
I think according to him, everything is a part of the hologram, including "you".
If you haven't heard it yet, here's a free audio he has on this very topic on his site:
Audio Discussion Of The Role "Others" Play In Your Hologram
Last edited by cylon; 12-11-2009 at 01:18 AM.
|12-11-2009, 01:51 AM||#5 (permalink)|
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Somewhere in time...
What I'm suggesting here is that you can "see" a whole 'nother world, it's just blocked out for some reason (or better put, focused on separation). I've seen this "other world" or "hidden world" several years ago... It was like a whole new dynamic to life, but yet right now remains hidden for some reason. We/I need to "see" ourselves as not separate entities but as one, which may require "new eyes" if you catch my drift? (a new perception, a perception of connectedness)
|12-11-2009, 06:57 AM||#6 (permalink)|
Join Date: Apr 2007
Does that make any more sense?
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|12-11-2009, 04:32 PM||#7 (permalink)|
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Heart of Dixie, USA
An analogy I've heard somewhere along the line was this - imagine "all that is" as a glass ball (like a Christmas ornament or something). It is one whole, cohesive unit. Now, take it and throw it up against a wall and smash it to pieces. The pieces are us...still part of the whole and yet now separate. However, if you put the ball back together, it's a ball again. The pieces are still part of the whole but now are separate and can be percieved like that - different from each other (some are big, some small, some jagged etc.) but "technically", they are still part of the original glass ball. Independent but same at the core...and will eventually become whole again (only to be broken again over and over and over forevermore as this is an eternal deal). It helped me to see it this way at first. As my awareness grows, this may change. Go with what resonates with you...until it changes.
|12-11-2009, 06:19 PM||#8 (permalink)|
Join Date: Jan 2009
I picture it as we're all part of this goop and we rise up from it (everything does as it's created) but we are all still connected. We can just as soon meld back into the goop. I try to think of being part of the goop to remember the "something more" than just my own "person" and to feel one with the consciousness.
|12-12-2009, 01:47 AM||#9 (permalink)|
Join Date: Dec 2006
Wow! I found something really cool that is all about helping to answer this question of the illusion of being separate from each other. It's a guided "awakening experience" to help us realize we are all one. Steve mentioned it in one of his posts I saw today.
It's a print book called "Lucid Living" but I got the audio version read by the author... 45 minutes and it's only $2.95 at iTunes. Worth investigating:
iTunes Store--Lucid Living
That's the US iTunes store... I actually got it at audible.com though.
Really excited about this.
Last edited by cylon; 12-12-2009 at 01:50 AM.
|12-12-2009, 01:54 AM||#10 (permalink)|
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Mexico City
|01-19-2010, 11:44 PM||#11 (permalink)|
Join Date: Jul 2008
I don't remember Scheinfeld ever mentioning oneness or universal consciousness in the book.
He did however state that the other people in your reality exist in your reality because you created them. They are just as real as you are however as they are also creating you in their reality. He doesn't go into depth on that subject but hides behind the "tangled hierarchy" to avoid answering how that can happen.
I managed to come up with a metaphor.
Imagine that we are both playing an online computer game.
You have a character you see as "you" in the game and I have a character I see as "me" in the game.
My computer creates the game world on my screen. In this game world my computer creates "you".
Your computer creates the game world on your screen. In this game world your computer creates "me".
Of course the two game worlds send information between themselves and they try to synchronize so they are as similar as possible but they will never be exactly the same. No matter what transpires in the game my game world is always personally mine even if "me" in the game doesn't really exist and your game world will always be personally yours even if "you" in the game don't really exist.
This way we can both create one another without running into a paradox.
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