Cleanup on aisle 6! A.K.A. Who spilled the bad intentions?

[Jehosephat]

One part of IM theory that I'm struggling with is how to reconcile all of the really bad things going on in the world. I'm willing to take responsibility for having intended those things. However, I can't understand why I would intend those things. I can't imagine that I ever desired to have people fight each other over religious differences. I don't want children to be abused! There are things out there that I couldn't even imagine, that go on. Did I accidentally intend these things when I was young? How can I find and stop these intentions inside my conciousness when I don't know how I intended them in the first place?

Maybe this is too much of a self-centered view of it. Perhaps I just don't know the extent of my conciousness to know how I would have intended these things. I'm an IM/LoA noob so I'd love to hear your thoughts on this topic.

[Adam]

The way that I see it, is that consciousness isn't restricted just to your one-body perspective... It's the job of the ego to stay put while consciousness wanders around experiencing everything. Since the ego is what holds on to the memories, keeping them seperate from other people's, the indentity that you see as 'you' is not the origin of the bad intentions.

However, when you are being conscious, your responsibility increases... You have the opportunity to change some of the intentions during that time, so let's start cleaning up the mess.

[Nico Kempe]

I think it all starts pre-birth.
Even before you are physically born and put on this world, you got consciousness and started to build an egoic mind.
During your whole life up to now, you have been influenced by your surroundings, both conscious and unconsciously so. In fact, your surroundings have pretty much made you who you are. Your ego has grown, you got certain values and you grew up with the idea that this world exists and it exsists the way you have been 'told' it is.

I've had exactly thesame thoughts about this that you have. If 'I' create this world, why is it so bad?
Then again, would 'bad' exist if you were fully conscious? If you were one with being? If you experienced being to it's fullest every day?
The answer would be no. If you are one with being, I think you would be at all, well not like you are now anyway.

So my guess is that we are just not fully conscious and thus are led for a large part by our egoic mind, which tells you the world is as it is.

If you would be able to consciously create all that is, then you wouldn't talk about 'me' or 'I' in the first place and you certainly wouldn't have to ask the question why..)

==note==
What Adam said, that's basically it. So let's start cleaning indeed.

[Ati]

Yes I agree, let's start cleaning it up, that's what's needed isn't it?

The question is similar in religions "why would God do or allow such a thing?"

The world is bigger than we are or than we can really imagine, isn't it? I've no idea who can tell me where the boundaries really are that would tell me just how big the world is.

So, to take another well spoken concept--think globally, act locally, that makes some sense doesn't it?

If we are consciously intending and thereby manifesting (!) good things within ourselves, around ourselves, a bit further out than that, who knows when an opportunity will pop up which will allow us to manifest through our intentions something positive and farther reaching than we can see?

A book, a song, an idea, a foundation, a solution, look at this site for instance !

I am believing less and less in limits and more and more in the wisdom of eyes and heart wide open

all best

[Adam]

Alright, I don't exactly like plugging my own work, though I suppose, if I don't, then who will?

I have recently gone through a lot of meditation, philosifizing, soul searching, corroborating, and just plain stubborness in order to answer the question, at least, to my satisfaction, "Why does evil exist?"

To me, the question goes to the heart of reality, and I honestly had no clue what my answer would be when I was beginning to write it all down. Many drafts and revisions later, I think that I have an answer as to why, especially in a universe where the Law of Attraction works, suffering exists.

I'm warning everyone, it is a long read, but hopefully it is clear enough to understand. askTrina.com » Blog Archive » Evil

[Adam Sargant]

Jehosephat, my take would be that we don't initially intentionally manifest... we manifest that which our attention is directed to... whatever we attend to, we get more of, whether we want it or not. Intentional manifestation is a consciously motivated application of this basic psychospiritual law.

[Nico Kempe]

I guess this is one good reason to give up news and television..

[Lil Chris]

Originally Posted by Adam Sargant

Jehosephat, my take would be that we don't initially intentionally manifest... we manifest that which our attention is directed to... whatever we attend to, we get more of, whether we want it or not. Intentional manifestation is a consciously motivated application of this basic psychospiritual law.

I like this statement, and the secret mentioned this as well... Until i watched "the secret" and "what the bleep do we know", I was unaware that my thoughts could have any significant impact on my reality. In the secret "ester" suggests that you can't push things away that we don't like, for example:
We have a:
War on drugs, War on poverty, War on cancer... etc...

But in these statements where is the focus (drugs, Poverty, Cancer)
But in actuality, This is what we're attracting... Not intentionally mind you, because of our unawareness of the mechanics of L.O.A. (law of attraction) that's what we get...

Now, what if we were to have a war on: Peace, Prosperity, Health, etc...
At first glance someone might say what's wrong with you, you want a war on peace, you're crazy!!! But, that poses an interesting thought. Could enough attention be put on this crazy idea to change the world... The contraversy, and outrage is of no consiquence, because the focus (attention) would ultimately be on peace, either for or against, is a benefit to all... Because that's what we would be attracting (manifesting)... Peace

Any thoughts on this crazy idea...?

[Nico Kempe]

Just a thought, if we more or less 'avoid' those things, such as all those wars you stated, avoid being reminded of them, would we then automatically have less negative thougts and more positive thougts?

Nowadays we are constantly reminded of all the negative things by the media. The media more or less loves negative and sensational news, since that gets the attention. Sure there are positive stories in the news, but there will always be more negative stories. If they state that some war has ended, you are still reminded of that particular war and thus negativity in general.

I think I understand why Steve gave up news and television.

In fact, I'm trying to avoid the news too nowadays, because if you think about it, it doesn't really have _any_ direct value to you, it will get you in to negative thinking more often than not, which naturally would work on the law of attraction, which creates more bad things, which you get pointed to via the media, which makes you think about those bad things, which works on the law of attraction, etc etc..

[Lil Chris]

Exactly!!!

[RandomJohn]

Well, you are what you eat, and if you eat negativity, you become negativity and attract all the negative things into your life.

I'm trying a news fast as well. With the elections, it isn't going so well

[Adam Sargant]

Originally Posted by Nico Kempe

Just a thought, if we more or less 'avoid' those things, such as all those wars you stated, avoid being reminded of them, would we then automatically have less negative thougts and more positive thougts?

I'm not sure that this is desirable... there is an alternative. Buddhists for example devlop compassion through the direction of attention to specific aspects of suffering and to their desire to alleviate the suffering of all sentient beings. Many Buddhist prayers/dedications take the form of affirmations to this effect. But it does take training.

By all means withdraw ones energy from that that increases suffering, but a refusal to engage with the suffering of others, or a denial of suffering, is a denial of our nature of light, IMO. Engaging with that suffering (or perceived suffering) in a truly resourceful way can change the world in so many meaningful ways.

Positive thinking is, by itself, meaningless. The creation of a delusional world. I have no wish to surround myself with positive thinking robots, but I do wish to consort with those that can see the suffering of the world and choose to discover how to respond ever more resourcefully.

What I am trying to say is that if one's attention is focussed on suffering, there will be more suffering in one's life. If your attention is focussed on the need for positive action and change to alleviate suffering... you get the equation

In love and light

Adam