WHY Law Of Attraction works for some people and why only sometimes for others.....

[123]

Have you noticed that the law attraction works for some people and then for others it works only sometimes or rarely or only on small things or maybe in only works in some parts of your life and refuses to work in others.

I’m not a really big of the movie The secret even though I bought a copy when it first came out. I’m not sure what the directors intention of “the secret” was, maybe to gain popularity and be able to produce other products, books, ebooks and seminars, etc. which is why they chose such a clever name for the title. The content of the movie is missing some important components, I’m not sure if it’s made that way so that people get confused and start buying whatever else the actors in the movie are selling or was it to make it really appealing to the audience. With just these 3 easy steps: “ask, believe and receive” you can have anything you want, sounds a little like an infomercial. If that’s all it took, than there would be no LOA seminars, courses, books ebooks, etc. It’s kinda like the all the drug companies see more money in making drugs to help deal with a problem instead of finding a cure that will end the problem.

Ok so here is why the law attraction doesn’t work all the time
I’ve been using the manifesting technique before the secret movie came out, I’m sure people will disagree with me, but for me it doesn’t work the way they describe it in the movie, there is a missing component. First of all, if you are trying to manifest something that goes against your core belief, you can do all the affirmations, desiring, visualizations, vision boards and believing you already have it, if your core belief is stronger than your desire than it will not happen. Most of the time it is and you don’t know it, because you had your core belief since you were a child and your desire was more recent. Most of your beliefs are subconscious, you don’t even realize you have them, one common belief that people might relate is “life is a struggle”. Maybe you saw your parents struggle to make money and that’s what you subconsciously believe. You might want to believe that life should be easy, but than if you really sit down and think you realize that it can’t be. So now if you try to visualize an easy life where you sit at the computer for about 5 hours per month type a couple things and see huge checks coming in your mail, this will contradict with your “life is a struggle” belief and not happen. Then you will get frustrated and realize that life is a struggle and which will strengthen your “life is a struggle belief”. The only way to get this to work is to find what your core belief is and clear it. If you can’t manifest something in a certain areas of your life like, money or relationship or health and looks than it’s probably your core beliefs working against you. The more you do your law of attraction steps and the more you get frustrated that it doesn’t work, the more you will confirm that it doesn’t work so if could actually start working against you where in the past it worked at least on little things, but now your belief is that it doesn’t work so it never works anymore... but your other belief is "life is a struggle" so you keep doing it.

How about little things that you want to manifest
As long as what you want does not contradict with your core beliefs, than you just pretty much need to desire it, think about it, believe you can get it and then just completely forget about it and usually shows up as soon as you forget about it. I think the reason you need to forget about it is probably because if you desire something and think about it, there might be a small feeling of desperately wanting which prevents me from getting it.

Anyway, this is just what works for me not sure how it works for others. I really don’t talk to anyone about it because most people don’t believe it and I don’t feel like arguing with them and attaching a feeling of doubt and frustration to the law of attraction when I think about it.

[Scott0530]

Well said 123. Ive kinda "grew up" in terms of LoA, under the secret the past few years, but have read a couple of posts that say it almost has another agenda or doesnt quite give you everything you need to fully understand the whole process and your drug company analogy makes perfect sense!!! I always thought that it was more to appeal to a different audience, which still may be the case, but who knows, lol.

I do have a question/request if you dont mind. Do you have any tips or advice on when you mentioned "find what your core belief is and clear it"?? I think that may be a big issue with me. For instance, I know some people dont agree either with it or just the fact that it will even work and I would love your thoughts on it, but Ive been trying to manifest a jackpot lottery win. And while I dont really think I have a belief of "life is a struggle" or something along those lines maybe my core belief is just that and thats what may be hindering the manifestation of the lottery win for me.

[davidchung]

Why are you trying to manifest the lottery win? What is it that you want the money you win to enable you to do? Perhaps you will have an easier time trying to manifest something like a dream home or a certain lifestyle. Then it won't even necessarily have to come to you through one specific channel of abundance (the lottery).

[Scott0530]

Davidchung, I just want at least 8 million in the bank quick so I can focus on my writing and also focus more on helping other succeed in thier passions. I know I can get to that point just by writing but fear that it may influence my writing so that I write more to make money rather then for the art of it. There are also a couple of other little things like I have my lazy brother living with me whom I am supporting. Dont get me wrong I love him but he is always looking down on himself as a failure even with all of my positive influences and help. He is extremely smart at his trade but because he was a high school drop out, rehabilitated drug addict, and there just really isnt any jobs here for him the only people that would hire him was friends and that business failed so he doesnt even have a reference to put down. In the end I just want to sit on the money, live off the interest and just go where ever my life and instincts take me and purely focus on writing and helping people without the influences of having to work to make money. I want to take the lottery route so I can basically change in one day and start my new life asap.

Also would like to add that I would also like the freedom to escape having to work with people I do not want to even associate with. So this would be an "easy out" I guess

[wshv71]

123, thank you for the insight, it was very useful. i have a similar question to scott0530's, about 'core belief' - how would you suggest one 'clear' it? after all it is a core belief, how would you get rid of it? in this case i dont think it's enough to simply go with 'think positive' , 'visualize the possibility' etc - this is a major stumbling block for me, but it really is hard to clear out a core belief like you said.

[Acting Like Godot]

You have to go deep inside your head, suspend your doubts and disbeliefs for 10 - 15 minutes, and just for that period of time, do your visualisations and affirmations etc.

The key point is this - if you can go deep, and if you can suspend your doubts and disbeliefs just for that short period of time, then you have a very good chance of success.

By going deep, I mean states like alpha and deep alpha; and maybe even the theta and the delta.

I have one warning for you guys. All your current beliefs, including the apparently negative ones, are there for a reason. In some way, they serve you now, or have served you in the past. Before you decide to root out a belief, even an apparently negative one, you should do some careful reflection about whether this belief actually helps you in any way.

At the very least, acknowledge the following risk - if you rip something out from deep inside your head and insert a new, very different belief into it, you are inviting big changes into your reality. These changes can happen quickly, and you may find difficulty adapting (even if the changes are positive).

Take it from me - all the recent troubles and woes in my life right now are quite obviously caused by my own ... successful ... LOA experiments.

To put it in simple terms .... Be careful what you wish for, because you might just get it.

[themaster]

Originally Posted by 123

I’m not sure what the directors intention of “the secret” was, maybe to gain popularity and be able to produce other products, books, ebooks and seminars, etc. which is why they chose such a clever name for the title. The content of the movie is missing some important components, I’m not sure if it’s made that way so that people get confused and start buying whatever else the actors in the movie are selling or was it to make it really appealing to the audience.

Your is a highly skeptical viewpoint.. any reason why skeptics and LOA never seem to work together

Originally Posted by 123

With just these 3 easy steps: “ask, believe and receive” you can have anything you want

Yah, and it absolutely works that way.. yee of little faith.. have you actually tried it.. without doses of skepticism?

Imagine if you could just do that without throwing in the idea negatively.. "but reality works this way.. it's so full of crap"??

Originally Posted by 123

sounds a little like an infomercial. If that’s all it took, than there would be no LOA seminars, courses, books ebooks, etc.

The reason why there are LOA seminars, dozens of books, billions of audio recordings and billions more pieces of information is cause we are all INDIVIDUALS.. and most of have spent our time invalidating things here.. we invalidate each other as liars.. we invalidate each others as fools.. we invalidate each other as bad drivers.. it don't matter we invalidate, we invalidate, we invalidate.. I've just described the common human condition.. no??

So here's the idea it's real simple.. we invalidate so much that we also invalidate certain methods of "the secret" information which is "law of attraction" and how it all works.. so the idea is when you "invalidate" a "law of attraction" method you can use this one by "Kryon" "Abraham" or "ALG!"

So here's some simple ideas for you that may stop your invalidation..
- Use the method/author/book/idea that you resonate with
- Try and stop invalidating it doesn't help you..

Originally Posted by 123

Ok so here is why the law attraction doesn’t work all the time
I’ve been using the manifesting technique before the secret movie came out, I’m sure people will disagree with me, but for me it doesn’t work the way they describe it in the movie, there is a missing component. First of all, if you are trying to manifest something that goes against your core belief, you can do all the affirmations, desiring, visualizations, vision boards and believing you already have it, if your core belief is stronger than your desire than it will not happen. Most of the time it is and you don’t know it, because you had your core belief since you were a child and your desire was more recent. Most of your beliefs are subconscious, you don’t even realize you have them, one common belief that people might relate is “life is a struggle”. Maybe you saw your parents struggle to make money and that’s what you subconsciously believe.

I very much like how you turned your statement from negative/lack based too.. neutral/positive based..

Maybe it was designed to just get people flared up.. ehh?

Let me add some information to how it works according to my teachers
- Beliefs are downloaded telepathically for most of us between the age of 3-5 (this is pre-1987 I do believe) this doesn't count the beliefs you add as you go on
- Beliefs can be changed in the snap of a finger but for some of us it's not so easy to get them rooted out.. also there can be core foundational beliefs and it is possible to create a belief that says "my beliefs cannot be changed"

I realize that your post probably wasn't written to be challenging 123 but since I wrote up these answers in response to that and there good I'm just going to leave them

[Scott0530]

ActingLikeGodot, first off thank you for the post, great info!!! Also do you have more info on going deep inside our heads? I understand and please correct me if Im wrong, that these are meditative states?? I do not have any experience on meditation but I catch on very quickly when im interested in something. Would you mind elaborating on the whole process of going into those states and also what we should do to find out what our core beliefs are and also how to reprogram? I apologize in advance for my ignorance to this subject if any of this Im asking is too much or offends you at all.

[themaster]

Yours is the orginal post I was going to respond too..ravrbrat123

i have a similar question to scott0530's, about 'core belief' - how would you suggest one 'clear' it?

There are many ways to clear beliefs billions really.. I can say it's as easy as snapping your fingers but it could be as hard as nearly dying and losing a thumb in a car accident (it's all up to the individual)

First off.. the simplest method I know is healing.. there is, billions of way to do this.. but it's acknowledging deep down that your wounded in some way.. that you have limitation, beliefs that don't serve.. the idea of healing is more like a rising up from this.. one of my favorite teachers for not having to examine your beliefs and activating tools for healing (that according to him never turn off) is "Jim Self"

2nd if you want to "EGO" your beliefs then my teachers suggest this..
- When you get negative energy (emotions) based on a definition/belief your not in alignment with.. thank it! own it! Thank it for telling you that you have a belief not in alignment with you you are.. then ask these simple words "How does this serve me?" and wait for your own truth about your belief to be revealed

after all it is a core belief, how would you get rid of it?

All beliefs are created.. they can be replaced with a new belief.. they can be replaced with a belief of "I no longer need beliefs" "I no longer need to carry this belief" etc.

Understand that according to my teacher.. beliefs will test you multiple times sometimes when you say they are no longer true.. as long as you validate the idea "this is who I am now" as long as you "shoot that belief" down as it tests you.. it has to become untrue by validating the new belief/idea.. it's as simple as that

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

At the very least, acknowledge the following risk - if you rip something out from deep inside your head and insert a new, very different belief into it, you are inviting big changes into your reality. These changes can happen quickly, and you may find difficulty adapting (even if the changes are positive).

Take it from me - all the recent troubles and woes in my life right now are quite obviously caused by my own ... successful ... LOA experiments.

Yes, if you weren't aware my teacher "Bashar" talks about this idea

About how removing a belief can be bad if it's painful.. still I don't suggest anyone really follow this advice too closely.. you spend too much time "EGO'ing" your beliefs you'll never get anywhere

It's better to use common sense if you must..

Why are you having troubles alg?

Is this karma?

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

all the recent troubles and woes in my life right now are quite obviously caused by my own ... successful ... LOA experiments.

You do realize that this statement.. reads like a belief right?

[Scott0530]

Themaster, can you elaborate more on "Ego'ing" beliefs??

Originally Posted by themaster

Yes, if you weren't aware my teacher "Bashar" talks about this idea

About how removing a belief can be bad if it's painful.. still I don't suggest anyone really follow this advice too closely.. you spend too much time "EGO'ing" your beliefs you'll never get anywhere

It's better to use common sense if you must..

[Razly]

123, thank you for the insight, it was very useful. i have a similar question to scott0530's, about 'core belief' - how would you suggest one 'clear' it? after all it is a core belief, how would you get rid of it? in this case i dont think it's enough to simply go with 'think positive' , 'visualize the possibility' etc - this is a major stumbling block for me, but it really is hard to clear out a core belief like you said.

Try to see the fallacy behind the core belief. To do that you need to increase your understanding. Then replace the core belief with another that is congruent to your new understanding.

A belief is a statement of reality. Thats why to replace your beliefs you need to increase your understanding of life/reality. When you increase your understanding of life, you will see the fallacy behind the beliefs that are no longer congruent with your new understanding.

So to quote Jesus: "With all thy getting, get understanding."

[themaster]

Originally Posted by Scott0530

Themaster, can you elaborate more on "Ego'ing" beliefs??

In this particular case with ALG.. I was talking about self examination and spending too much time finding beliefs that could damage your fragile reality and cause negative/unwanted outcomes..

The idea is I don't think it's that positive a thing to do what ALG was talking about.. which is carefully examining your beliefs to make sure your not too hurt or damaged by them.. you see this kind of "EGO'ing" doesn't serve you in a positive way I think..

The idea here is too much self examination.. turns into too much self criticism ect. there are easier ways to battle beliefs then to fear removing them as ALG in a way stated..

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by themaster

Why are you having troubles alg?

Because changes mean you have to adapt, and big changes mean you have to adapt fast. The bigger the changes, the more and the faster you have to adapt, and this can mean being out of your comfort zone.

You know my recent example - I manifested for a very big sum of money, and suddenly this property agent shows up out of the blue and comes knocking on my door, asking "Would you be interested in selling your property? I have a very interested buyer." One week later, my home is sold for a very, very good price ....

.... but now I am getting kicked out of my home; and having a headache trying to find a temporary and suitable place to rent (one that's near my children's school; and near a train station, and near amenities like supermarkets; and big enough to take all my furnituire etc etc). And I guess it's just my personality, but I really hate hassles like that.

(I have another property, but it's still under construction and won't be ready for a year).

Next example which I haven't mentioned yet - very recently, I went on manifesting for a big sum of money, and guess what? Two days later, a headhunter calls me up, again out of the blue, and it's a dream job. Very, very interesting work; my past experience makes me a decent candidate for it; AND the job will pay massively.

The catch? I need to relocate to another country. Again, this is exactly the kind of hassle I detest most. Find a home in another country; brush up on a foreign language; find new schools for the kids; ship loads of stuff over; settle into a totally different environment; and make sure that my entire family settles in too ....

This opportunity is making me feel like an idiot, because I KNOW that this is a great job in many ways, and if I were a more adaptable person, I'd just grab it in the blink of an eye .... and yet there is so much resistance in me, to the idea of having to relocate to another country. Too many changes.

[Scott0530]

ALG, this is just a begginer's observation but it seems like if you just looked at everything you mention as being a hassle for you in a positive and promising way that your manifestation was a complete success, but I do understand where you are coming from as far as the hassles.

Did you see my earlier post?

Originally Posted by Scott0530

ActingLikeGodot, first off thank you for the post, great info!!! Also do you have more info on going deep inside our heads? I understand and please correct me if Im wrong, that these are meditative states?? I do not have any experience on meditation but I catch on very quickly when im interested in something. Would you mind elaborating on the whole process of going into those states and also what we should do to find out what our core beliefs are and also how to reprogram? I apologize in advance for my ignorance to this subject if any of this Im asking is too much or offends you at all.

[davidchung]

Originally Posted by Scott0530

Davidchung, I just want at least 8 million in the bank quick so I can focus on my writing and also focus more on helping other succeed in thier passions. I know I can get to that point just by writing but fear that it may influence my writing so that I write more to make money rather then for the art of it. There are also a couple of other little things like I have my lazy brother living with me whom I am supporting. Dont get me wrong I love him but he is always looking down on himself as a failure even with all of my positive influences and help. He is extremely smart at his trade but because he was a high school drop out, rehabilitated drug addict, and there just really isnt any jobs here for him the only people that would hire him was friends and that business failed so he doesnt even have a reference to put down. In the end I just want to sit on the money, live off the interest and just go where ever my life and instincts take me and purely focus on writing and helping people without the influences of having to work to make money. I want to take the lottery route so I can basically change in one day and start my new life asap.

Also would like to add that I would also like the freedom to escape having to work with people I do not want to even associate with. So this would be an "easy out" I guess

Scott, you say you want to win the lottery so that you can focus on your writing and help others succeed in their passions, but can you not do that even without winning the lottery? And why the need to eliminate 'work' from the equation - is it not possible to make writing and helping others succeed in their passions the focus of your work, and to get paid for it?

You don't need the lottery to start your new life. In fact, nothing is stopping you from starting it right now. Saying you can only do something if you win the lottery is another way of expressing that you feel you 'don't have enough' right now, it is a way of showing that you do not appreciate the Abundance you already possess in your life. Can you see how pining after a lottery win in this way only serves to lower your vibration?

Make becoming financially rich the outcome of the expression of your Purpose, not its prerequisite.

[themaster]

That sucks ALG I'm with you

Try and remember though.. and this may be what's annoying you.. we don't have to "EGO"/decide the perfect place to live.. or the perfect job..

If you just set the intention that you would rather offload the work.. then I would just kick back and do that..

But maybe you like to "EGO" it from your description it doesn't sound so

[Scott0530]

Originally Posted by davidchung

Scott, you say you want to win the lottery so that you can focus on your writing and help others succeed in their passions, but can you not do that even without winning the lottery? And why the need to eliminate 'work' from the equation - is it not possible to make writing and helping others succeed in their passions the focus of your work, and to get paid for it?

You don't need the lottery to start your new life. In fact, nothing is stopping you from starting it right now. Saying you can only do something if you win the lottery is another way of expressing that you feel you 'don't have enough' right now, it is a way of showing that you do not appreciate the Abundance you already possess in your life. Can you see how pining after a lottery win in this way only serves to lower your vibration?

Make becoming financially rich the outcome of the expression of your Purpose, not its prerequisite.

David, I do see what you are saying, but dont quite fully understand when you ask if I can see how pining after a lottery win in this way only serves to lower my vibration?

You are right I dont need to win the lottery to do all that, but with having to go to work and trying to juggle all that and fit it into the schedule when im not working isnt really working for me. Also Im not going to lie I want to be rich right now. Like I said earlier I know that from my writing or even another way I will be rich but would like it to happen all at once and quick. I would say my personality is exactly opposite of ALG, I adapt well and welcome change especially if it is for something as huge as that would be.

[themaster]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

and yet there is so much resistance in me, to the idea of having to relocate to another country. Too many changes.

Resistance to change is not good ALG.. this is a universe of change.. and one of the core rules is "everything changes"

I have to tell you that according to the "new age" folklore energy is coming down to the planet BIG TIME and it will force everyone to change.. those that resist, will only get it worse.. so the idea is maybe you should go into what your resisting on purpose

One of the things some of this new energy/dynamic is saying to us.. is start cleaning up your space and house.. start getting rid of everything you don't need.. isn't tied down etc.. if I understand it right

Understand that from my perspective ALG you are in my reality.. and as such understand that I have called for this "energy" into my reality on purpose because I wish to change.. I am really, really tired of 3rd dimension RIGIDTY and limitedness..

I want to be free to fly, I want to be free to explore, I want to be free to imagine/manifest/create, I want to be free to be me..

[Orca]

Hello Everyone,

Ok, here are my thoughts on this. I realize this might sound like heresy to some folks, and it's not my intention to offend anyone. I apologize in advance if that occurs. It's just that I have some rather different thoughts on this topic...

To me, LOA, The Secret and positive thinking ideas are fine ideas. I'm not against them, and I think they can be very helpful. However, IMO, they are also rather incomplete. They are missing some important pieces that, to me, cause people to misunderstand what is going on when they are trying to manifest and create their lives.

A missing piece seems to be the acknowledgement of divine plan and timing. It seems people feel they should be able to create anything they want, and it should show up that way. People feel entitled to what they want, when they want it, and how they want it, without regard to whether or not this is in the grand plan. Certainly ideas of spiritual growth doesn't seem to be on the radar, or what the real issue is about what people want and why. There seems a lot of focus on being positive and clearing "beliefs" and that is fine. But past that, there doesn't seem recognition of divine guidance or plan. It's all "about me".

LOA is all ver logical and uplifting in idea, but in reality, I don't think it is so simple. And, because of this and how LOA is promoted, my impression is that a certain attitude of entitlement has started to creep in among LOA enthusiasts. People literally feel entitled to getting anything they want. LOA seems to be all about "Getting Stuff", whatever that "Stuff" may be (more money, relationship, health, etc).

It's understandable and very human. But I think it sometimes misses out on recognizing and acknowledging the role of the Divine in this.

Furthermore, it seems that people assume that if people don't get what they want, (the "stuff"), it must have been because they weren't "positive" enough. Or that there must have been some belief in the way that was not addressed. I've met many LOA enthusiasts who were very disappointed when their manifestation work didn't work. Either they were disappointed with themselves, for not doing it right, or they were mad at God, for not getting the stuff they wanted.

Along these lines, in my practie , I've had clients who were working so hard to be positive, it was as if they were white knuckling their way thru life. Any "negative" thought was fiercely banished. In my practice, I've seen clients where their entire aura was distorted and the body is practically imploding under the force of their determination to be 'positive' that it was literally killing them. It's as if there's a whole part of themselves people are hiding from, the intense fear.

I understand this. It's so human. But this is when I really feel people have to be honest and real about what their feeling. Otherwise, not only will this impact their body, their manifesting will be useless or only create more of something which reflects this fear. Manifestation is not a brute force activity. You can't fake it with fake positivity. It just fools your mind, for a while. It gives the ego something to focus on to, without having to listening more deeply to what God is trying to tell them, or feeling the very real fear that's under the covers...

But alas, we are in a culture that isn't comfortable with truly feeling what we feel. We might think we want to connect to God, but we'd rather reach for a technique, whether it is LOA or some other approach, to get us what we want. It's understandable. We're only human. I mean, we all do it. I just think it's good to be aware we do it...that way we know what's going on.

Certainly, sometimes there are factors like limiting beliefs at play when we try to use LOA and things don't go as expected. I totally agree with that. I use LOA myself, and feel it can be very helpful. I'm just saying it is incomplete in that it doesn't present the whole picture. To me, the way it's presented is missing the critical piece of divine guidance and plan. God becomes boiled down to a piggy bank, rather than a consciousness that we must work with, not against. It's as if humans are demanding God give us what we want, when in actuality, I think it's more of a partnership where God leads the dance, and we follows. We aren't in charge, though we sure we wish were.

I think this is a tough concept to swallow for people, from an Ego standpoint. We want to feel like we're in control in this thing we're doing called "Life". But to me, God is not as interested in granting peoples' whims, desires and wishes as much as encouraging our deepening of faith and finding who we really are. That's the whole reason we're even here to begin with. True faith is not some simple sort of cause-and-effect, of praying for things and having them land in our lap, as proof of our metaphysical prowess. If one's entire spirituality gets boiled down to that, to me that's kind of sad.

Certainly, we can ask for what we want from the Divine, with LOA. In fact, it is our responsibility to do so, in terms of managing our lives. But we simply cannot be so vested in the outcome, that it MUST happen or else it means that either God is not listening, or somehow we didn't manifest it right. It's ok to put a request out, and then know inside that things will be taken care of in the way they should be taken care of, regardless of how we might wish it. But then that does not mean you always get what you want. God is not Santa Clause. We are actively co-creating. And that is why sometimes we get amazing results we never would have dreamt of, and other times, it works differentlyy than we might have expected, and we have to be ok with that.

Another reason why I am a bit bothered by LOA is that it seems to imply that people who encounter misfortune must have created it for themselves. This, to me, is a tremendous oversimplification of what's going on. It creates the idea of "them" (poor folks who suffer because they don't know The Secret) vs. "me" (who should be entitled to the good life, because I do know The Secret). To me, it's still an egoic idea that somehow "I Know How God Works". That everything that happens is a result if I, Me, and Myself and my mainfestation. It's like saying "I've discovered the law of the universe, hurrah for me!!" That seems tremendously oversimplified because there's no acknowledgement of a consciousness that is tied into a greater plan, to something bigger than ourselves that none of us know. It's about control, I think. This idea that I should be able to create and control everything in my life. Well, what if most of us simply don't have control over anything. We sure want to THINK we do, but we don't. Not really. And that, to many of us is absolutely terrifying.

For example, how does LOA explain things like the folks suffering mass tragedy in the Congo, for example? How does it explain millions in starvation and disease? Do folks honestly feel that telling people who are suffering in Africa that they created this because they were 'negative' is the answer? And that by telling those folks to be more positive and envision food will mean their starvation problems would magically be solved?

No. I hope no one honestly thinks that ist he answer. Part of the explanation to that is that we were lucky enough, through the grace of God, to not have been born in Congo to begin with. It's that simple. Saying people in Africa are negative and created their mass starvation would be, in my view, an extremely oversimplified response to "make sense" of how and why things manifest. It is the ego's desire to feel like it knows what's going on when life is full of chaos and things that don't always have a simple answer.

And I am not saying LOA has no place. But i am saying we need to keep things in a reasonable framework. There has to be, somewhere, a sense of humility that we as humans DON'T know everything. That maybe this thing "The Secret" might not be the whole enchilada. Unfortunately, from the promoters of LOA and the books, I don't always get this feeling.

As it is, it might be OK for manifesting parking lot spaces when you need them or helpful for finding a job and stuff. But LOA is not the equivalent of knowing how God works. It's just not that simple.

So I say, sure, use LOA. But don't wig out when life doesn't go the way you expect. None of us truly know the mind of God, and if you don't get what you want, don't get worried that somehow you didn't manifest correctly. Maybe it's not the right time. Maybe it takes a bit more persistence to clear out some sort of belief. Or, maybe and just maybe, God has a different direction in mind and we must wait to see what that is.

Orca

[davidchung]

Originally Posted by Scott0530

David, I do see what you are saying, but dont quite fully understand when you ask if I can see how pining after a lottery win in this way only serves to lower my vibration?

You are right I dont need to win the lottery to do all that, but with having to go to work and trying to juggle all that and fit it into the schedule when im not working isnt really working for me. Also Im not going to lie I want to be rich right now. Like I said earlier I know that from my writing or even another way I will be rich but would like it to happen all at once and quick. I would say my personality is exactly opposite of ALG, I adapt well and welcome change especially if it is for something as huge as that would be.

Reread what you have said.

"I want to be rich right now."
"...I will be rich."

What's the underlying assumption in that statement?

"I am not rich right now."


You are approaching your manifestation from a vibration of lack and have-not rather than a vibration of abundance and prosperity. Whenever you think of winning the lottery, you tell yourself that your life is not abundant, and because you believe you do not have abundance in your life you do not give yourself permission to express your Purpose.

How pressed for time are you really? Can you not find the time to write one page, or even half a page a day? At the end of one year that's 182-365 pages, enough to make at least a small novel.

Here's an excerpt from John Grisham's Official Bio Page:

Long before his name became synonymous with the modern legal thriller, he was working 60-70 hours a week at a small Southaven, Mississippi law practice, squeezing in time before going to the office and during courtroom recesses to work on his hobby—writing his first novel.

Today the man has 235 million books in print worldwide. His advice to aspiring writers? Just start with a page a day.

On the other hand, here's what 42 year old Lisa Arcand, the winner of a $1 million lottery jackpot had to say four years after she'd hit the jackpot:

“Winning the lottery is not all it’s cracked up to be,” said Arcand, 42, a single mom and lifelong Lawrence resident. “Actually, it’s been very depressing.”

Today, less than four years after striking it rich on a scratch ticket, Arcand has decided to close her dream business — Fisherman’s Corner.

“I emptied my savings to get this place,” she said last month, standing behind the counter of the nearly empty eatery she opened just five months ago. “Now I’m behind on my bills.”

I'll let you decide which one is more successful.

You say you welcome change, yet you are waiting for change to come from outside of you, rather than starting to change from within. Stop looking for excuses NOT to live your life the way you intend it to and start looking for ways you CAN do it.

[moonrambler]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

Because changes mean you have to adapt, and big changes mean you have to adapt fast. The bigger the changes, the more and the faster you have to adapt, and this can mean being out of your comfort zone.

It's kind of like a speedboat whizzes by and grabs you and suddenly you're on water skis going way faster than you expected.

You're getting something else you manifested for, I think. You've found manifesting money so easy and you've continued showing people how it works, and in the meantime I remember you commenting that it was getting boring because it was too easy, and you wanted to think of other things to manifest.

So now manifesting money is still real easy, and you've kept the situations surrounding the money healthy and positive, but they are no longer easy nor boring . . . in fact, they are challenging.

[Magicinthenight]

Orca, thank you so much for your post, it resonated with me in a very deep level and I think it explains very clearly the things that have been bothering me about LOA recently. So thank you again, hope to see many more posts from you.

[Froztwolf]

I've been studying and experimenting with LOA for a couple of years and in my experience it is exactly as simple as ask, believe and receive. The complexity lies on how to get around all your personal blockers to be able to do that.

When I have been able to change or even temporarily suspend limiting beliefs, engaged in creative visualization and minded my vibration diligently I have been able to create some amazing things. This is what the books and seminars are to help you with.

Yes, it's hard to win the lottery when you don't believe you can. But that doesn't mean LOA is defective, it means you need to convince yourself you can.

[Declan JJ Lestat]

Originally Posted by davidchung

Reread what you have said.

"I want to be rich right now."
"...I will be rich."

What's the underlying assumption in that statement?

"I am not rich right now."


You are approaching your manifestation from a vibration of lack and have-not rather than a vibration of abundance and prosperity. Whenever you think of winning the lottery, you tell yourself that your life is not abundant, and because you believe you do not have abundance in your life you do not give yourself permission to express your Purpose.

How pressed for time are you really? Can you not find the time to write one page, or even half a page a day? At the end of one year that's 182-365 pages, enough to make at least a small novel.

Here's an excerpt from John Grisham's Official Bio Page:


Today the man has 235 million books in print worldwide. His advice to aspiring writers? Just start with a page a day.

On the other hand, here's what 42 year old Lisa Arcand, the winner of a $1 million lottery jackpot had to say four years after she'd hit the jackpot:



I'll let you decide which one is more successful.

You say you welcome change, yet you are waiting for change to come from outside of you, rather than starting to change from within. Stop looking for excuses NOT to live your life the way you intend it to and start looking for ways you CAN do it.

Mr Chung - a sterling post! There's many an author who had to fit in their writing between their responsibilities while they got started.

And as for waiting for a lottery win or to become rich before you can be able to help people... How many people did Gandhi help? Please...

The only thing between a person and their goals is their excuses.

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

At the very least, acknowledge the following risk - if you rip something out from deep inside your head and insert a new, very different belief into it, you are inviting big changes into your reality. These changes can happen quickly, and you may find difficulty adapting (even if the changes are positive).

Take it from me - all the recent troubles and woes in my life right now are quite obviously caused by my own ... successful ... LOA experiments.

To put it in simple terms .... Be careful what you wish for, because you might just get it.

More support for the approach of *gently and patiently* draining energy from limiting beliefs?

[MysticGirl]

WHY Law Of Attraction works for some people and why only sometimes for others.....

Because its not a law, yet!

[123]

Originally Posted by Scott0530

I do have a question/request if you dont mind. Do you have any tips or advice on when you mentioned "find what your core belief is and clear it"?? I think that may be a big issue with me. For instance, I know some people dont agree either with it or just the fact that it will even work and I would love your thoughts on it, but Ive been trying to manifest a jackpot lottery win. And while I dont really think I have a belief of "life is a struggle" or something along those lines maybe my core belief is just that and thats what may be hindering the manifestation of the lottery win for me.

I think finding your core beliefs might be the most challenging and most rewarding step out of the whole process. After you deal with your core beliefs, things you want would be more or less automatic and “ask, believe and receive” will work a lot smoother.

First lets understand what a core belief is. It’s something you believe to be true and you can’t believe things being any other way, you probably accepted it as a child, when somebody challenges your core belief you could get angry or emotional or even think they are crazy for not agreeing with you. Someone can have a belief that you must work hard to make a lot of money, you’ve seen your dad working hard to support the family so you believe that’s how it works. Throughout life you would dismiss any idea that may disagree with this belief, work your 40 hour weeks and even if you met someone that made a lot of money not working hard you might say that’s just not right.

You can’t really eliminate your core beliefs, but what you can do is take control of them, by focusing on new supporting beliefs that will replace those old non-supporting beliefs and they will eventually or really quickly lose power over you depending what depending how convincing the new beliefs are. If you must work hard to make a lot of money is your belief, some supporting beliefs might be to look at a big company like Microsoft realize who works hard there, is it Bill or the employees that make him money. With most companies the lower you get in the pay scale the harder people work to a degree, you don’t see too many low paid employees taking weeks off at a time and going on vacations and golfing. You might say that Bill worked hard to get where he got, (my personal belief) I really don’t think it was his hard work that got him where he is, but more of his creativity and passion that’s probably what drove him to become what he is. If you are still trying to justify and find ways how Bill worked hard or get mad that he is where he is right now, it’s most likely a core belief.

One ebook that I recently found really helpful was written by Stuart Litchman, How To Get Lots Of Money For Anything Fast, in the last part of the book he deals with core beliefs I think he refers to them as blockers but it means the same thing that I’m talking about. The short version of the process is to trace your problem back to the original belief and then using visualization and association with a positive situation, imagine the original situation where your belief originated in a way you would like it to be that will support you. Since the mind can’t tell the difference between real and imagination this process is pretty effective.

Regarding manifesting the 8 million in lottery, if you don’t have any limiting core beliefs maybe you should start with something a lot smaller like manifesting $10 bucks or something that feels achievable, get familiar with the feeling and then work your way up. Not sure if you ever won anything, but you wouldn’t start climbing MT Everest if you never climbed a mountain. If you notice a lot lottery winners have won something in the past because they have a belief that they can win. Same thing when you see people at casino’s constantly winning, it’s always the same aunt or friend hitting the jackpot and they don’t have any special skills just the belief they can do it without any contradicting core belief. What happens to the money after they get it and if they lose it is another story, but I think it’s something like 90% of lottery winners either lose almost everything and sometimes more, because of conflicting core beliefs. On the other hand Donald Trump could lose everything and gain his billions back in no time because of his core beliefs that he is a billionaire in his mind and he deserves the money.

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by Scott0530

Also do you have more info on going deep inside our heads? I understand and please correct me if Im wrong, that these are meditative states?? I do not have any experience on meditation but I catch on very quickly when im interested in something. Would you mind elaborating on the whole process of going into those states and also what we should do to find out what our core beliefs are and also how to reprogram?

Hi Scott:

There are different ways to access these states. Meditation, hypnosis (including self-hypnosis) and prayer are some of the ways. A simple example goes like this:

1. First make yourself comfortable (eg take a shower, wear comfortable clothes, do some stretching exercises)

2. Sit or lie down, and having done so, keep your body still, avoiding any unnecessary body movements (which distract yourself).

3. Clear your mind of all thoughts and just observe your own breathing - how it feels around your nostrils, in your chest, in your throat, in your tummy.

4. Breathe in deep and slow, hold for 2 seconds, exhale deep and slow. Pause for two seconds, inhale deep and slow.

5. If any distracting random thoughts come up in your mind (and they will), simply recognise them for what they are, and gently allow them to float away.

Pretty soon you will find your mind in a quieter, deeper state. And that's when you start doing your manifesting.

Now the thing is - if you gain more experienced in this kind of stuff, you will realise that your mind can go deeper and deeper and deeper, and the deeper you go, the more powerful your mind gets. Buddha for instance is said to have meditated 40 days straight, whereupon he gained enlightenment. Of course you wouldn't do (and wouldn't be able to do) 40 days straight. 15 - 30 minutes is good for beginners. I've not done anything beyond 1.5 hours myself (and usually I do much less).

When you have accessed one of these deeper states, it's quite common to have physical signs of it. One is that your hands, forearms and legs may start tingling. These are not brief sensations, but sustained and distinct. Also you might get a flush of colours in your vision (purples, blues, greens). You might get an odd sensation of something unlocking in your chest; or a pressing sensation in the middle of your forehead; or the feeling of electricity running up from the base of your spine. You might feel like your body has become very heavy and inert, or you might feel the opposite - that your legs are floating. You may suddenly realise that you're hardly breathing at all, in fact for what feels like a long time, you do not take a single breath, and yet you're ok - it's not like you're suffocating.

But you might not have any of these physical signs at all.

Anyway, when you're there ........ This is the time when you can start manifesting. While in this state, you can state your affirmation or visualise your goal, and the message locks in, at this deeper level of your mind.

And your reality will begin to change.

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by davidchung

Reread what you have said.

"I want to be rich right now."
"...I will be rich."

What's the underlying assumption in that statement?

"I am not rich right now."

Look guys .... Here's the answer to this kind of affirmation problem:

"I am rapidly becoming richer."

Works for other subject-matter too. For example:

"I am quickly becoming fitter."

[Daffy Duck]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

Look guys .... Here's the answer to this kind of affirmation problem:

"I am rapidly becoming richer."

Works for other subject-matter too. For example:

"I am quickly becoming fitter."

This is more believable too, right? That's how I've seen phrases like that discussed before.

If you say to yourself, "I am a billionaire", your mind says back, "Haha! The hell you are!"