Music and Intention Manifestation

[RandomJohn]

So this thread is inspired by annie's posts on using Baroque music in a deliberate intention-manifestation (IM) practice. I understand the idea is to put the mind in a receptive state (alpha waves, 8-13 Hz) so that the unconscious mind can "hear" the intention and "internalize" it. I'm also pretty familiar with the idea that alpha is the state of receptivity and relaxation, theta is the state of creativity and dreaming (and also a learning state -- children spend a lot more time in theta than adults), and delta is the state of deep, dreamless sleep.

So I have a couple of questions for annie and anyone else who has used similar methods:

• Which actual pieces work best for you? I know that some research indicates that Mozart is great for solving problems involving spatial intelligence. What composer/pieces work best for this kind of intention/manifestation practice?
• There are several brainwave entrainment programs out there such as the works of Dr. Jeffrey Thompson (neuroaccoustic.org, I think), and Kelly Howell (brainsync.com). Would we get the same effect by, say, using Audacity or other audio mixing program to overlay a voice track with our intention to one of the programs that induce alpha or theta?

[Jehosephat]

I haven't used music for IM at all (though I might try that now) but while I was in college I found Mozart to improve my report writing and programming project abilities. I also tried studying to Mozart, and then listening to the same tracks right before (or during if possible) taking the test. It was harder to gauge the effectiveness of the studying/testing listening sessions but I figured it couldn't hurt.

[Nico Kempe]

My bet is that instrumental music works best, since lyrics will distract you.
Also, the tempo should probably best be not fast and be steady, again, not to distract you or keep your mind in a more active state.
So my guess is that it has to be somewhat background music, ambient if you will, with no sudden high pitched sounds or instruments that catch your attention.

Sum that up and you'll end up with soft classical music, well that's what I would favor anyway.

A little personal sidenote: maybe it's better to change the thread title from 'IM' to 'Intention-Manifestation'? Or was that too long? I know I didn't get it the first time..)

[RandomJohn]

Yeah I guess using music for instant messaging isn't quite as effective

[As a side note to moderator -- I wouldn't be too terribly upset if you implemented this suggestion, or maybe we can add an acronym tag?]

[Nico Kempe]

Originally Posted by RandomJohn

Yeah I guess using music for instant messaging isn't quite as effective

my thought exactly
now let's go back ontopic.

[annie]

Originally Posted by RandomJohn

Yeah I guess using music for instant messaging isn't quite as effective

LOL...this was my first thought....hmmmm, I was thinking, I always listen to music when I Instant Message

Great minds think alike

Hey, I have comments, but am rushing away to work with a client....talking about what music she wants for her LifeVision...how ironic!!!!!

(and I'm serioius, so this is making me laugh right now!)

[annie]

But before I go too far (client is late) I'm going to give you a link to something I used while I was writing my book. When I listened...it flowed, when I didn't...I was majorly STUCK!!!!!

Superlearning

music should play the second you log onto the site

I'll be back................

[Ati]

Originally Posted by RandomJohn

[As a side note to moderator -- I wouldn't be too terribly upset if you implemented this suggestion, or maybe we can add an acronym tag?]

Originally Posted by Nico Kempe

A little personal sidenote: maybe it's better to change the thread title from 'IM' to 'Intention-Manifestation'? Or was that too long? I know I didn't get it the first time..)

Hi from Mod land--

RandomJohn, did you mean Nico's sidenote changing this thread's heading? The board is called Intention Manifestation. You're right, IM means a lot of things. If you start a new thread called Music and Intention Manifestation or something to combine these concepts, we can just move all these posts into that thread and have it done------Later I'll learn a more sophisticated way of doing that, but for now that will work and I'll push the proper buttons after I see your new thread

I like this topic quite a bit. Going back to another of RandomJohn's here, does anyone know a particular type of music known to promote theta?

[RandomJohn]

On the admin side - new thread created.

On to the topic:

There are "brainwave entrainment" offerings. Basically, what these products do is present a tone in one ear and then a tone of a slightly different frequency in the other. So, for example, one tone might be 100 Hz and the other is 103 Hz. The result is that your brain "creates" a 3 Hz beat and then the brainwaves start to follow that beat.

Right now I'm listening to some of Jeffrey Thompson's stuff (the reference is Center for Neuroacoustic Research) which is really neat because he takes these ideas and weaves them into natural sounds or electronic music. Kelly Howell's offerings are at BrainSync.com and offers a different take on the same thing. And then annie just linked to another site above that I'll have to explore, but I don't know if they do theta.

[annie]

Originally Posted by Nico Kempe

My bet is that instrumental music works best, since lyrics will distract you.
Also, the tempo should probably best be not fast and be steady, again, not to distract you or keep your mind in a more active state.
So my guess is that it has to be somewhat background music, ambient if you will, with no sudden high pitched sounds or instruments that catch your attention.

Sum that up and you'll end up with soft classical music, well that's what I would favor anyway.

A little personal sidenote: maybe it's better to change the thread title from 'IM' to 'Intention-Manifestation'? Or was that too long? I know I didn't get it the first time..)

Ok, here's the deal.....

By now, most of you know that I use something called a LifeVision, a very very detailed manifestation of my ideal life in all areas of life (spiritual, physical, relationship, financial etc). I also RECORD it and listen to it daily with music in the background. (maybe you read my story in How have manifestations worked in your life THREAD!)

Anyways.....Music is a vital key to the whole thing. If I could have chosen any music for "my creed"....trust me, I would have recorded it to CREED (the rock group!...since I'm such a rocker). However, that would have been dumb, because there is a certain type of music...called Baroque music...the slow, boring classical kind that I use to my advantage. It's not about musical preference, it's about POWER!

Baroque music, often refered to as Accelerated Learning music or Super-learning music has the characterisitic of putting you in ALPHA, the meditative term for being relaxed and calm. In this state of Alpha, you are 10X more receptive to "learning" or accepting new information.

The biggest benefit that I have seen from using Music in my LifeVision is that it takes it to my subconscious where otherwise I would have to LISTEN to it consciously to have it work. Because of the music, I don't have to focus as intently on my Lifevision (the words in it). I can multi-task and get a bit distracted and it's still working. Now granted, if I concentrate HARD, it's going to both the subconsious and my MIND is consciously hearing it....double benefit. My since my recording of my LifeVision is 28 minutes, it's hard to focus intently on that day after day after day. It's my habit to listen to it daily....but because of the Baroque music, I multi-task while I'm listening to it.....exercise, drive, ski, etc.

I KNOW IT"S POWERFUL....but I also know that any type of music wouldn't have the same effect. As long as the music has 40-60 beats per minute, it's good for affirmations...it's the same beat as your heart rate, basically.

If it's faster, it has no "super-learning" power. That's why I ALWAYS use Baroque music...it's the Bach and Mozart type music. Maybe you've heard of the Mozart Method...?? And like I said...not my favorite type of music...but who cares!!!!

[Ati]

I usually listen to jazz of various kinds, but yesterday put in Bach, Vivaldi, and also logged on to the Superlearning site you mentioned and I do think it's helpful (I'm taking time out to study/review for a 6 hour examination this Thursday).

I use music a lot, always have what I want to hear on in my office at work. Agree that for studying, learning, anything which has its own words ("lyrics" ) it makes sense to have instrumental music. Also a steady beat not too fast, not too slow, 60 seems just right.

[RandomJohn]

I'll have to try Bach and Handel. Right now the only Mozart I have is Requiem in D Minor, which seems more fit for crying while staring out the window at a rainy day than superlearning.

Maybe I'll post another thread about brainwaves and learning (sounds like a personal effectiveness topic).

[The Protagonist]

this is probably what you people are talking about

iMusic | Volume One by Volition Thought House: your Soundtrack for Success

[daisy]

Just a quick note about Baroque music and why it may be best for getting into the right "state" of mind... Bach Vivaldi and Handel wrote in a linear fashion, long phrases, very symmetrical, and with chord progressions that completed patterns that pleased the ear. There are very little sudden stops and starts to interrupt your brain's thought patterns. Being a musician, maybe I should record an album and market it to people wanting to use Baroque music to manifest intentions!

[madgeylou]

it's interesting if you think about the evolution of music along with the evolution of human consciousness -- how differently did baroque-era people think from how we in the beyonce-bootylicious era think?

[Belle]

I've been using Kelly Howell's Brain Sync materials for three weeks now, but I use them more for helping me get into the theta state than for intention-manifestation. I really should give it a try for that, I know.

It's interesting, but I can only listen to her High Focus CD, which I guess stimulates alpha waves, only once. It helps but when I'm working on a long project and I try to listen for longer than an hour, I get dizzy.

[RandomJohn]

I think High Focus stimulates beta.

[Belle]

Originally Posted by RandomJohn

I think High Focus stimulates beta.

That's strange. I find the Increasing Creativity CD very helpful, and I thought THAT stimulated beta. Maybe it's theta - I seem to do best with all the theta ones.

I definitely have an averse reaction to long-term listening to High Focus ... do you find this, too? Some of my friends have had a huge success using High Focus but I just can't to get over this reaction of mine.

[RandomJohn]

I've never listened to it. Maybe I'll try it out, although my first "high focus" experience came from a theta stimulator.

[Ati]

Originally Posted by daisy

Just a quick note about Baroque music and why it may be best for getting into the right "state" of mind... Bach Vivaldi and Handel wrote in a linear fashion, long phrases, very symmetrical, and with chord progressions that completed patterns that pleased the ear. There are very little sudden stops and starts to interrupt your brain's thought patterns. Being a musician, maybe I should record an album and market it to people wanting to use Baroque music to manifest intentions!

Great idea! Let us know when you do....I'll go for it!

[songwriter]

Better without music, it distracts me.

Though songs use to have it's own intentions... maybe if your intentions are the same the ones of the song it may be good for you. But I haven't tried.

[Indy107]

I happened to run across this slightly old thread and have a question.

Ever since watching the YouTube 'Think It So' video, where the Australian guy combines IM with music and video, I have been interested in combining music and IM.

Is there a difference in the music that is being played? Malcolm uses whatever music makes him feel good, and we know IM focuses on feelings. But then again Annie says Baroque music works for her in her program. Is it the actual music itself or the feeling we get when listening to it?

[annie]

It's not as much as how "you" feel as much as it's about how your "brain" feel.
I use Baroque for the sole purpose of putting myself in "alpha"....the meditative state of the brain.

If it was all about how I felt consciously, I would certainly choose different music. Baroque is the tool I used to get in Alpha so that my brain is more receptive to what I'm saying as the subconscious level as well as the conscious level.

Google more about Alpha and super learning, Baroque, or accelerated learning music. (I've said WAY too much about here on this board (bored)

annie