If the LoA is always working for us, even if we are aware of it or not...

[Rockchick26]

...then why do we even have to consciously use it to manifest what we want?

I've heard it a hundred times, the law of attraction always works, every time, all the time, whether you realize it or not. So why must we work at it? Why do we have to enter a certain state of mind, play this movie in our minds over and over every day until we start to see syncronicities, and then take action on them? I didn't have to do that to create my life so far. (it just happened "by itself")

I have manifested everything in my life (as we all have) without purposely creating it. Just by living you are creating your life, so why is it necessary to create intentions and apply all these exercises to them in order to bring them about?

Or does this just make changes happen faster?

[Daffy Duck]

The purpose of LoA exercises is to help you focus and better create what you want in your life.

If you hop in a car and just start driving without much conscious thought, you'll go places... but you probably won't get exactly where you want. And if you do get lucky and reach your destination, it will probably take you much longer than if you had setup a plan and map ahead of time.

This is the difference between conscious and unconscious living. The conscious know what they want and they're constantly focused on getting there. The unconscious just kinda let life happen to them, not really giving too much thought as to why.

Originally Posted by Rockchick26

I have manifested everything in my life (as we all have) without purposely creating it.

Oh, I doubt that. You've never had a goal? Never had something you wanted and decided to go for it? I'm sure you've consciously created many things already!

Everyone does some things consciously. But others do it very often and become very good at it. Practice makes perfect! The more goals you achieve, the more you can achieve in the future.

[Anagogy]

Originally Posted by Rockchick26

...then why do we even have to consciously use it to manifest what we want?

I've heard it a hundred times, the law of attraction always works, every time, all the time, whether you realize it or not. So why must we work at it? Why do we have to enter a certain state of mind, play this movie in our minds over and over every day until we start to see syncronicities, and then take action on them? I didn't have to do that to create my life so far. (it just happened "by itself")

I have manifested everything in my life (as we all have) without purposely creating it. Just by living you are creating your life, so why is it necessary to create intentions and apply all these exercises to them in order to bring them about?

Or does this just make changes happen faster?

You are over complicating it. And yes, it is always working. And yes, intentionally using your powers of imagination and intent will cause change to occur in your life more rapidly than it would otherwise.

All the law of attraction says is, "that which is like unto itself is drawn".

So visualization, affirmations, imagination, etc., is just a means of getting you to become different so you can attract different.

If you are fine with the way things are, then none of that is necessary, because you will continue to attract experiences that reflect whatever your state of consciousness is right now. Also, change will normally happen in your life anyway, because life will cause you to grow, which results in a change in your mental state, which then translates into you attracting slightly different experiences.

But it's like the difference between learning intentionally and just learning accidentally. Intentionally is usually far more effective. Intention manifestation is the same way.

[Rockchick26]

Originally Posted by Daffy Duck

Oh, I doubt that. You've never had a goal? Never had something you wanted and decided to go for it? I'm sure you've consciously created many things already!

This sounds awful but no I never really have had any goals, unless you count how I tried to use the LoA to get this guy to ask me out and that failed miserably and I quit believing in the LoA after that. (That was 2 years ago though, I'm over it now! )

Honestly though I have never really made goals. After high school I just kept hanging out with my friends until my dad made me get a job by setting up an appointment for an interview for me. I worked there for 18 years even though I didn't like it. I got laid off 8 months ago and I have become a total lethargic lazy bum who can't decide what kind of job I want to have. But that's all been done before on other threads, my point is, no, i've never really had any goals, I just lived with whatever came my way in life. Which is what i meant when I said I created my life and that's why I haven't created anything, really.

[Rockchick26]

I can't believe what is running through my mind right now...after posting that last post I got super depressed about myself, I can't believe I've never made ANY goals! I just let my life happen TO me, not because of me. I am like a backseat driver to my own life! No wonder I feel stuck all the time, because I keep expecting things to happen for me! I've wished for lots of money, and a boyfriend, and a job I like, but by wishing for something that just reinforces that you don't have it! I guess I have always felt like this sheltered dreamer, that everything I want is on the other side of my protective bubble of a life, and I can only fantasize about those things.

Wow...this explains all my recurring dreams about not being able to find my car or not being able to get my car to drive right or not being able to walk or run or move forward...wow... I can't beleive how much this one post has helped me realize something I've been trying to figure out for years!!

I need to take control of my life before its too late!! I need to learn how to grab the steering wheel and not just hope I get driven to the right destination!

[Rockchick26]

Originally Posted by Anagogy

You are over complicating it.

This made me giggle because I get told this ALL the time by lots of people, in fact even today my friend told me I was making things more complicated than they were. I wonder what makes me do that? I just always have to know that things will go smoothly and I have to analyze every detail about everything in order to understand it.

So visualization, affirmations, imagination, etc., is just a means of getting you to become different so you can attract different.

My imagination is EXTREMELY active though, I'd say 70% of my day I am imagining, dreaming, visualizing or fantasizing about something. But like I said in the post I just made, I don't think I ever really thought these things were possible, I guess I've always felt like "well why would I get those things, I've never gotten them before." Now I realize how I've been screwing myself!

If you are fine with the way things are, then none of that is necessary, because you will continue to attract experiences that reflect whatever your state of consciousness is right now. Also, change will normally happen in your life anyway, because life will cause you to grow, which results in a change in your mental state, which then translates into you attracting slightly different experiences.

This is all so true! I'm only "fine" with the way things are because I'm usually scared to do anything unless I know it's perfect and will have perfect consequences, which of course, is impossible to ever tell! And I also find problems with EVERYTHING, even my best ideas. And I can't do things if there are problems involved. Also that part you said "life will cause you to grow", that's an earful right there...Life has CAUSED me to grow, I haven't caused myself to grow! That needs to be switched around!!

[marinik]

You can always start with the "and why not me?" attitude. Why wouldn't things you want and dream about happen to you? Just stop the "nah, no way this can happen to me, it is too good to be true... bla bla bla... (what ever your inner dialog is)" Then you go to "wouldn't it be nice..." and then just concentrate on what you want and just ignore what you don't. And things really start happening the way you want them to. Sometimes you do need to move your lazy bum ( this true for me too ) but if it is something you want it is not that hard at all.

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by Rockchick26

This sounds awful but no I never really have had any goals

You have goals. You just don't recognise them as such.

Today you woke up in the morning, and brushed your teeth, and went to Place A. Why? Because you had a goal.

There was a reason why you went to Place A (instead of Place B, or Place C, and instead of just staying put in your bathroom). That reason was your goal.

Some people have bigger goals, some people have smaller goals. Some people approach their goals more deliberately than others. Some people choose their goals more consciously than others.

But everybody has goals.

Every living thing, in fact, has goals.

Why did that little bird land on the ground and start pecking around? Its goal was to find a worm to eat. Why did your white blood cell try to engulf that little bacterium? It was trying to defend your body against illness. Why did that tom cat go fight with the other tom cat? Its goal was to mark out and defend its territory.

[Daffy Duck]

Exactly. And even now, you have a goal of learning more about LoA, which is really about learning how to consciously set goals and achieve them.

Do you know what you want to do in your life? This is the first thing to figure out.

[moonrambler]

Rockchick, I see what you mean though. Breaking up the day into tiny segments, sure we can see brushing teeth as a goal. But you're pointing out that you haven't set any goals to make significant progress in life toward your wishes.

You're having some major breakthroughs lately. And I like how you recognized what your dreams have been telling you.

[Brown Eyed Mystic]

Originally Posted by Rockchick26

...then why do we even have to consciously use it to manifest what we want?

I've heard it a hundred times, the law of attraction always works, every time, all the time, whether you realize it or not. So why must we work at it? Why do we have to enter a certain state of mind, play this movie in our minds over and over every day until we start to see syncronicities, and then take action on them? I didn't have to do that to create my life so far. (it just happened "by itself")

You've heard it right. It works all the time.

We have to work on getting/manifesting what we'd want. It is not neccessary that we get into a perfect state and visualise; not for everyone. For someone who doesn't know even a tiny bit about the LOA, but has a constant powerful intense positive emotional state as their way of life overall, LOA doesn't really need to be worked upon. On the other hand, for someone with a constant negatively charged state of mind, giving off the feel that they are never gonna achieve what they'd love to, LOA needs to be worked upon. So, its simple. You may not know the abc's of the Law, but if you effortlessly have a "believer's" state of mind, you'd manifest whatever. In that case, you don't even need to dig about it, coz digging leads to more questions (esp. the how's and the when's).
So, all in all, it is only neccessary to get all working on the LOA when your subconscious has a different vibrating frequency than what you want in life, and you know it coz you can see worse results.

[Rockchick26]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

You have goals. You just don't recognise them as such.

Today you woke up in the morning, and brushed your teeth, and went to Place A. Why? Because you had a goal.

There was a reason why you went to Place A (instead of Place B, or Place C, and instead of just staying put in your bathroom). That reason was your goal.

Some people have bigger goals, some people have smaller goals. Some people approach their goals more deliberately than others. Some people choose their goals more consciously than others.

But everybody has goals.

Every living thing, in fact, has goals.

Why did that little bird land on the ground and start pecking around? Its goal was to find a worm to eat. Why did your white blood cell try to engulf that little bacterium? It was trying to defend your body against illness. Why did that tom cat go fight with the other tom cat? Its goal was to mark out and defend its territory.

Well technically, yes, everyone has goals like that, those are just survival goals though. Or small things you need to do to get through each day. I guess I'm not satisfied with that though. I need more than the typical cycle of 'eat, get ready for work, work, get ready for sleep, sleep, and repeat.

[Rockchick26]

Originally Posted by Daffy Duck

Exactly. And even now, you have a goal of learning more about LoA, which is really about learning how to consciously set goals and achieve them.

Do you know what you want to do in your life? This is the first thing to figure out.

I've been struggling with that for a few years, even before I lost my job I've been trying to figure out what I really want to do. I have a lot of ideas but can't decide on one because they all come with their own set of problems and roadblocks. And it just paralyzes me the more I think about it. This is the heart of my problem...I analyze too much and I am a perfectionist and I see all these problems and roadblocks which throw me back to the ground and I never get anywhere.

[Rockchick26]

Originally Posted by moonrambler

Rockchick, I see what you mean though. Breaking up the day into tiny segments, sure we can see brushing teeth as a goal. But you're pointing out that you haven't set any goals to make significant progress in life toward your wishes.

You're having some major breakthroughs lately. And I like how you recognized what your dreams have been telling you.

Yeah I do feel like i'm making progress in some areas but other areas I dont know how to make progress in, which inevitably always leads to me not being able to jump the hurdles that are standing between me and my goals. My dreams are just telling me what i already knew but I don't know how to FIX the problem!

[Badgermilk]

You could simply have the goal of finding a worthy goal.

Ask for an opportunity to be involved or be a part of something that connects with your higher self and just believe that the said opportunity is already happening now.

With regards the not having goals right this second and sitting around and being lazy, dont worry about it. Accept yourself as you are right now and be grateful that you have discovered that you do want to do something more with your life! Theres no rush no matter what age and circumstance you are in now. You are already in control of your own life by simply wanting to answer that calling and recognising that you have one!

Self acceptance is the first and most important step we can take in any situation or walk of life, once we accept ourself for who and where we are everything else just kinda falls into place.

Hope this helps!

[Rockchick26]

Originally Posted by Badgermilk

You could simply have the goal of finding a worthy goal.

Ask for an opportunity to be involved or be a part of something that connects with your higher self and just believe that the said opportunity is already happening now.

With regards the not having goals right this second and sitting around and being lazy, dont worry about it. Accept yourself as you are right now and be grateful that you have discovered that you do want to do something more with your life! Theres no rush no matter what age and circumstance you are in now. You are already in control of your own life by simply wanting to answer that calling and recognising that you have one!

Self acceptance is the first and most important step we can take in any situation or walk of life, once we accept ourself for who and where we are everything else just kinda falls into place.

Hope this helps!

Yes that did help a little, although I can't afford to be lazy and do nothing, I really need a job. I just spent the last hour researching jobs in the music industry (for probably the 20th time in the last few years), it's like i'm hoping that one of these times I'll find something that is perfect, yet nothing is.

I wish I could enjoy this downtime for myself but it's just so hard when i'm under constant pressure to find a job.

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by Rockchick26

I have a lot of ideas but can't decide on one because they all come with their own set of problems and roadblocks. And it just paralyzes me the more I think about it. This is the heart of my problem...I analyze too much

I also have this problem.

On my best days, I realise that it doesn't really matter which path I take - as I go along, I can just go on creating and creating what I want or need.

But those are my best days. I have other sorts of days too.

[Strem2]

Originally Posted by Rockchick26

Yes that did help a little, although I can't afford to be lazy and do nothing, I really need a job. I just spent the last hour researching jobs in the music industry (for probably the 20th time in the last few years), it's like i'm hoping that one of these times I'll find something that is perfect, yet nothing is.

I wish I could enjoy this downtime for myself but it's just so hard when i'm under constant pressure to find a job.

When you're not anxious, what do you enjoy doing? (TV doesn't count because it's not "doing".) Our talents and preferences always give us a clue to our "heart's desire." And, when we're doing what we enjoy doing, things are always easy. The Universe is much more supportive.

[Rockchick26]

Originally Posted by Strem2

When you're not anxious, what do you enjoy doing? (TV doesn't count because it's not "doing".) Our talents and preferences always give us a clue to our "heart's desire." And, when we're doing what we enjoy doing, things are always easy. The Universe is much more supportive.

Well I have a huge list, actually...but the problem is all of these things cannot give me an immediate income right now which is what I need. They all involve working my way up to even get paid from doing them (creative hobbies like photography, writing, filmmaking), or they involve schooling (library sciences, music). I am fine with doing them all as a hobby and not making a living off them as long as I can find a job that I don't loathe like my last one.