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Old 11-05-2009, 12:20 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Difference between synchronistic / "physical" manifestations?

Today, I manifested for more money. No details, I just basically said the money is flowing in, I'm spending my days doing what I love, all my needs are met, life is good. To step into that character and have the feelings he would feel as if it were here now.

Almost immediately I got a couple synchronicities, one from the news, and then later, talking to my Dad and he said back to me almost word for word something I had thought to myself earlier in the day, which was essentially "you should think your abundance into existence." We don't talk about this stuff, and he was saying it in a completely different context. But the message was the same.

So the question is, these are obviously of the same "energy" as wealth abundance, are they indicators that I just need to keep thinking/feeling along the same lines? What is the difference between physical manifestation (what I hold in my hands) and non-physical (when someone talks to me, I am led to a helpful info source).

I'm thinking there is no fundamental difference other than perception that one is "actual abundance" and one is "an iou for abundance".

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Old 11-06-2009, 12:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It's my understanding that manifestation is speeding up.. sounds like you got that too.. I would say the reason you didn't get it physical and more likely through conversations is that was EASIEST way it could get into your belief/definitioned/rational mind has to have it this way universe..

There is no difference.. cylon I've talked about this idea before and so do others.. but let's put it into context.. there's no difference to the universe of manifesting you a Quarter and 60 Story Steel building.. there is only a difference we make in our heads.. your biggest problem isn't how to get the manifestation.. it's more like how to squeeze it into the hole of the rational mind/ego that is your only limitation..

Do you understand why ALG has easy manifestation?
(I do or claim too.. after all I'm not ALG from this perspective)

He has successfully built up layer upon layer of beliefs about money and wealth and success he's built them so well.. that it's EASY for him.. he is in place where his rational mind let's it all through in part that's cause he has so much success already.. but to understand why money is easy for some with EGO's or rational mind is to understand they have built themselves to that place in the programming or allowing of the EGO and their own success..

ALG knows he's rich.. if you could build that in your mind.. there's no stopping you from achieving that either But the truth is I believe the energy is shifting from materials and more into happiness in the NOW.

I guess the idea to understand is materialism for some and eventually for all.. will be considered less important.. some of us are moving to realities where we will no longer need to build physical objects etc.
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Old 11-06-2009, 06:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks themaster.

I think I do understand a lot of this stuff. I'm not at ALG's level yet but I do have many experiences that seem to be similar to his. His resistance is much less than mine, I don't sense much of him really wrestling with the consequences of him getting what he wants, he is already fine with living in a world that feels good.

I know that at a fundamental level they are the same. I'm just curious if one is of a higher vibrational nature than the other. A hundred dollar bill and someone telling you "hundred dollar bill" are the same manifestation, but they are still perceived separately, because on a practical level one is not the other.

I would prefer to keep interacting with my physical reality now that I'm starting to see how much fun it can be, I'm not in a rush to ascend just yet.

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Old 11-06-2009, 07:38 PM   #4 (permalink)
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i think there is no fundamental difference between physical and energetic manifestations. reading your experience, i think that is the universe saying 'great work, we have received your request and are processing it now.'

it is often easier to manifest a synchronicity than a 'physical' thing because we (might) have beliefs that get in the way of the quick physical manifestation. and also there is the issue of vibration, things must be slowed down to become physical and 'solid' so whether this is pure science or an excuse or truth, i think that sometimes it is more, um, involved to create a physical-level manifestation... because it is a step further, and the physical reality is often tangled up with the illusion of linear time.

i have found it's far easier to manifest things when i don't set it up as a huge deal, when i DON'T spend hours making vision boards or even spending minutes expressing the intention as such. so far, the things i've manifested most easily were kind of haphazard really, still positive for the most part, but i did not set it up as a big deal. i had a casual attitude about it... like, i could say here, quickly and as an aside, that i'd love to attract $1000 by doing absolutely nothing... and then i go on with my day, or keep typing and move my focus elsewhere... this is an example of the type of situation i have manifested with surprising ease.
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I've been moving away from the specifics as well. It's not about the specifics, it's really about the feeling you want. I think we try to get specific because we think if we're not crystal clear, the universe might "screw up" our order and give us extra mayo when we asked for no mayo.

But, the universe is us, so, it actually doesn't even need a specific goal at all. It IS our thoughts, so "it" knows exactly what we want to the extent that we do.

So back to my own manifestation, I wasn't really saying "I want this much money" I was just saying, all is provided, life is good, I have everything I need. Then all of the sudden I get alpha reflections, and they "are" wealth/abundance in themselves.

So maybe they are "slower" vibrations and once the feeling is more consistent, then they become "faster" vibrations, and then quality of the manifestation changes, but not the actual TYPE.
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maybe i misunderstand (surprise, surprise), but what i was saying is the synchronistic manifestations are faster, and to become physical the vibration must get slower. emotions, thoughts, communications are faster than physical objects - even the 'heavy' emotions still vibrate faster than a window or a cheeseburger. so it might be the opposite of what you said, but you're free to see it however you want of course.

i agree it is the same type. and i agree the universe knows what we want. i think getting specific is more for us, to clarify what we want, than it is to make sure the universe will honor our mayo preferences.

so maybe not only is the universe saying 'great, your order is being processed' - maybe it's also confirming the personal 'rightness' of the shift in your focus to one of general abundance instead of dollars.

i think synchronicities are usually showing us we're on the right track. either way, yours seem auspicious to me.
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Old 11-06-2009, 08:13 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Cool, no I think I see what you mean. Speed. I just visualize a bunch of "LOA elements" all bumping up against each other in a faster (physical) vibration but in a slower vibration (conversations, synkros), there's only a few of them banging together, they need time to multiply, then speed up. And stuff.
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ouch... my head hurts...(to the universe - i am only kidding! my head feels awesome and pleasantly neutral.)

trying to define the undefinable i guess. or getting all quantumly physical here. and yes, all those things are already there, bumping around, but it is quite difficult to have a multidimensional conversation where the vastness of those things is accurately represented. our human brains are actually not that good at multitasking. the, i wanna say, the cerebral cortex doesn't like it.

but at least i think you understood me now.
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I don't know if you remember or have heard the core rule cylon but manifestations are not taking time as it were.. they are instant.. but because this is a time-space reality that manifestation is supposed to be inserted into your reality based on a proper timing and path I believe decided by the inner self (though there may be way more too it then that ) I mean this limitation was a design/agreement of being here..

I have to say that where I presently am in MN I would not have chosen to be.. I came here to help someone out and in doing it seems the universe manipulated other people (other me's) to get me here to help myself out.. (kind of weird how "the how" to get you in the right direction works sometimes isn't it )

When I came to mn or just before I entered the state and started my new journey with my new teacher "jim self" I had a dream in ohio I believe.. and this dream was weird.. cause each time I had it.. (I had it 3 times) I was told something that made me really happy like.. "ohh it's happening" "consider it done" something like that.. and I repeated this dream 3 times and then I woke up finally not remembering.. (I believe I chose consciously to repeat the dream 3 times too.. cause it made me that happy! ) strange those semi-conscious dreams are.. according to my teacher.. for me to even meet him I had to be prepped 2 months in advance

So why I'm at this story point.. I don't remember but the truth holds true.. all manifestations are instant.. coming into alignment with some of them is not always so

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Yeah I appreciate that time is an illusion, but it's a useful illusion in the sense that you can at least make cause and effect conclusions for your own purposes. I suppose if everything I wanted just appeared to me in this instant it would shock me into a coma.

Still, that can get in the way. For example, if I have an extremely strong intention, then suddenly it seems that the world ITSELF has changed to manifest, on a global scale (like my intention will become a news story), that I have difficulty accepting. Not that I don't believe it, I just guess I still sense a bit of separation between "big world out there" and "me".

But sometimes I get the sense that some of the really wonderful things that have happened, really have happened by way of major global events conforming to my own desire. Of course if I said that any where but here, I would get an for my presumptuousness.
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Just for the record - I was sitting outside doing a PD exercise involving identifying with a color - I chose red. Afterward, I glanced up from my reading three times to glance at a passing vehicle. EVERY one of them was red. Sure, red's a popular vehicle color, but three in a row? And none of the parked vehicles within sight were red!
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That sounds like a big, successful hit to me. I've never tried a color manifestation before.

I get the qualifier you just put there though, that you would assume your peripheral vision would have seen a red car anyway, but, I don't buy that's how it happens. I'm not an "LOA is nothing more than the...."

Crap I forgot what it was called.
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...reticular activating system. I have heard that term so many times and countered it that when I wanted to say it, I actually forgot the term. That's an interesting development.
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I guess what made it amusing for me is that I wasn't attempting any sort of manifestation. Afterward I got the eerie sense that identifying with the color brought more of it to me, almost like I was doing a metaphysical hog-call

Maybe that's what's meant by being in vibrational alignment?
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