intention to manifest healing for back

[rei]

i haven't tried using intention with this before. i was in a car wreck a few years ago, which left an 'issue' with my back. i recently came to an underlying (spiritual) reason for the experience, which i won't go into here.

i would like your suggestions for intention(s) i could use to encourage my lumbar disks (discs?) to return to their state of full wholeness. (by asking for intentions, i am asking for your ideas for specific wording.) also if you have experience working with LOA to heal an issue that manifests in the physical body and are willing to share a bit from that experience, it may assist me in reprogramming my mind to accept this as a possibility.

during the string of moments after the wreck, multiple docs said it would be 'permanent' and, well, in the moment of physical pain i was not really paying as much attention, and i internalized that belief in the permanence... (plus, the docs show me MRI films and i can literally see the distortion... which i admit does interfere with believing i can/will release it.) i am frustrated that i allowed myself to accept it, but then again, no point in being overly self-critical either. i did the best i could for where i was at that time.

would i need to do that thing of recording my voice and listening to the intention 1000s of times, or is there another approach i could use for this?

[annie]

So here's my own experience. And there's some good new and some bad news

The good news is that I have completely healed myself of a fairly serious disease using "that thing of recording my voice and listening...." (In this case I can see why you don't want to listen to it 1000s of times because you're in a hurry to get better...don't blame you)

But I also tried using the same process to heal my own back from a herniated disc.....(the recorded thing again) with no results! :/

So do I have an answer for this? Not really. I'm just trying to be as authentic as possible when I say...sometimes it doesn't work...and because of who and what I am, I attribute it to God's Will.

Did I want my back to heal more than I've ever wanted anything in my life? Absolutely...I had 4 small children that needed a mother who could actually MOVE!!

So here's what I do: I go into it with my heart full of gratitude that I will receive what I'm asking for. And if or when it doesn't work.....I am still grateful and accept it as the will of God and I always feel "blessed" for the experience and what I learn from it.

(eventually I had surgery that took the pain away, but ultimately I had to become very very hard-core in my exercise program so that my muscles supported my body enough to get rid of the pain/problem. I also learn more about prayer than I ever did in my life and other invaluable lessons)

So...you'll get lots of differing responses...and from one who's had tremendous back pain...I feel for you. Good luck!

[rei]

thank you annie!
i have noticed there is a stigma around chronic pain, especially for spiritually minded love-n-lighter types. (herniation is involved in the issue for me as well, had several procedures, epidurals, etc. but full blown surgery is not currently a good option for me.)

so it is also like i feel... well, like i am expected to just push through it and have a bounce in my step... some days, i do, and i am so grateful for that! lately i have been smiling for no reason (don't you love that?)... i read in a magazine that facial expressions will create the emotion. and then when my back bothers me more, i am (honestly) grateful for a chance to slow down and rest.

so yeah... i do really appreciate the authenticity annie! as you said there will probably be differing responses. and i'm thinking, while i appreciate sharing a similar experience... at the same time i'd certainly looove some hope! (i have hope for many many things, but this issue... not so much. i feel doomed to take opiate meds... i am still hoping that the applicable fields will discover a sure-fire, minimal-risk corrective option.)

not too long ago i was reading about disc herniation online and ran across some articles that said, with the proper amount of rest, etc., the herniation often heals on its own. i had a twinge of anger in that moment, with the docs i saw in the beginning of all this, for them not mentioning the self-healing thing. (i am 26 yrs old... got a lot of livin' to do.)

anyway, i kinda started to ramble. it is just nice to feel like someone out there understands, thanks.

[annie]

Well, here's the hope. 18 months after I was given the bad news (ruptured & degenerated discs...with little hope of getting rid of the pain) I WAS pain-free.

So really my point was that I didn't manifest a miraculous intention...but my body did heal itself and it all worked out for the best. I would definitely create THAT intention...because I have no doubt that eventually you'll be fine. Maybe it will take a month, or 6...or heaven forbid a year. But you will heal yourself!

[rei]

well, this issue has been a part of my experience with varying intensity for five years.

but i still fully support the potential of a resolution, in fact resolution of some form is inevitable... and i intend to manifest a return to full lumbar health and wholeness, independent of what medical professionals have told me.

it all works out for the best, yes. thank you again

[marinik]

rei I am here with you with a shifted vertebra, not a disc but the whole thing dislodged into my body for a whole centimeter. So i have my spinal chord in a bit of a tight spot

I did about 500 ab exercises a day but still had periods of pain. Then I went to a chyro who said no ad work until your spine is strait because it was a "bit to the left..." so I am still in pain...

I have tried to meditate on a healthy strait back, even had an ideal spine as my desktop them I have tried the self hypnosis with my voice suggesting that my spine is healed and well, then I talked to it and asked what was the trouble... but in a crazy way I am sure I will find a way.

So lets try together. Any suggestions? I am still in the "asking" phase waiting for the answer. You?

[themaster]

or is there another approach i could use for this?

What does your imagination suggest..?

Based on my experience my imagination/cognitive analysis immediately suggests
- Working on the beliefs you have
- Speaking with my teacher (higher wisdom)
- Working out the limitations/beliefs you may have.. (I recently found that by having a new age conversation.. person to person conversation.. the anti-limitation guru.. myself spouted many )

[marinik]

I am opened for all suggestions. I have fished (in what I consider "me") for limiting beliefs about the condition of my spine and all of me... but then I even talk to each and every cell in my body as they for me have their own consciousness.

[rei]

yes... limiting beliefs are part of this. i know they are there, and they seem planted pretty deeply... i don't even know if that makes sense. but when multiple docs tell you, this is permanent, when they show you a picture of your spine, with a pic of a 'normal' one for comparison... you can guess what that is like, (i am keeping the LOA *out* of this example - you truly deserve full health and wholeness at every level).

part of it i think is the spiritual reasons behind the experience... again i won't get into the details because it sounds really odd, i checked and rechecked to be sure i heard it properly... basically the experience has allowed certain circumstances that fulfill a spiritual need.

but physical pain is, unpleasant. most of the time i don't focus on it, but i feel it wearing on my emotional body sometimes... not always... but sometimes... i dunno, one could argue it fits with the wounded healer archetype - but the way the paradigm is shifting, allows for the release of that pattern. besides, there have been other wounds i can draw from to connect with others for healing with compassion...

i sense, this post, sounds or reads energetically like i am dooming myself to have this situation remain as it is... see what i mean about the limiting beliefs being deep in there, so that i don't even notice until i reflect? ugh... that annoys me, cuz usually i am very good at - in the moment - oh, this is what i feel/think/believe, it is not in my best interest, so i choose to let it go. i would very much like to apply that approach to this situation. i don't see myself 'doomed' with this... or i would love to dig deep and release any beliefs that would energize that idea.

marinik, hopefully we will find a way to transcend the situation. thanks to all who have posted so far, and advance thanks to anyone else who offers ideas.

[themaster]

rei, you have to use the permission slip that works for you.. really.. only you can know or choose.. you also choose how important it is to you.. because if it was the most important thing in the world to you at this moment..

you would
- travel far and wide looking for answer
- try everything and anything that came along
- take every which way and path to get it done

The idea is if you want to solve this you can but you need to set how your going to go about it.. I understand the idea that taking on a "disability" is a journey for some.. if you are tired of this journey you need to find a way to get yourself to the end of that road

[Angela]

Rei, have you read the work of Dr. John Sarno? You might find it really interesting and helpful -- I did.

[rei]

Originally Posted by Angela

Rei, have you read the work of Dr. John Sarno? You might find it really interesting and helpful -- I did.

interesting stuff... reading about his TMS idea now. i believe people can express emotional discomforts in the physical body, somatization.

Angela, are you saying it's all in my head despite the fancy MRI pics?

i do believe in the power of the mind-body connection. i'll look into his work more, thanks.

[Angela]

I wouldn't say it's "all in your head" -- rather, I would say that the body is constantly eavesdropping on the thoughts (I stole that from Deepak Chopra ) and that pain is kept powerfully in place by unresolved emotion.

Sarno's ideas don't apply to all pain, especially mechanical things, like for instance a fracture or curvature or trauma, but he does say that pain that lasts more than six weeks is often emotional in nature. It's easy and free to find out: just try his technique and see if it makes a positive difference. Couldn't hurt, right? It's just a tool to try out; if it doesn't work, try something else.

It has made a difference for me, and I've watched as people have used it to relieve ancient pain right in front of my eyes.

[rei]

this is trauma related but i am open to trying something anyway - anything is possible! free, you say? the info i found didn't offer a specific technique, other than realizing the pain is meant to be a distraction, and through the realization it goes away.

is that it? if you're referring to some other technique that's free and available online, i'd very much appreciate a link. swank you.

[Angela]

You can get the books from the library. Basically the technique is just to notice and acknowledge the emotion you're feeling, over and over again until the pain lifts.

Rei: What emotion am I feeling right now?
Rei: Anger.
Rei: What emotion am I feeling right now?
Rei: Anger.
Rei: What emotion am I feeling right now?
Rei: Anger.
Rei: What emotion am I feeling right now?
Rei: Despair.

etc. etc. etc. Personally, I want to know what message the emotion is trying to get through my thick skull, too, which I find helps the pain know it's done its job and be on its merry way -- that's not really part of Sarno's method, though. Just acknowledging the emotion does a lot.

[rei]

Originally Posted by Angela

You can get the books from the library. Basically the technique is just to notice and acknowledge the emotion you're feeling, over and over again until the pain lifts.

Rei: What emotion am I feeling right now?
Rei: Anger.
Rei: What emotion am I feeling right now?
Rei: Anger.
Rei: What emotion am I feeling right now?
Rei: Anger.
Rei: What emotion am I feeling right now?
Rei: Despair.

etc. etc. etc. Personally, I want to know what message the emotion is trying to get through my thick skull, too, which I find helps the pain know it's done its job and be on its merry way -- that's not really part of Sarno's method, though. Just acknowledging the emotion does a lot.

thank you Angela. acknowledging can go a long way, but i agree with you, it seems more helpful sometimes to understand the message too.

[TonyToneTone]

Few ways you can go about this. You can do all, some, none, or whatever you come up with that you feel is best.

1) Take a few deep breaths and relax. Tell yourself you are going to completely relax. Give yourself the following words: "I want you to image whatever I say. Don't think on it. Don't reason on it. Just simply imagine it." Now tell yourself to see yourself back when the docs were talking to you but instead of telling you negative stuff, they told you positive stuff. "You're going to make a quick recovery." "Your back will heal 100% within a very short time." "Your back is completely fine."

That's an easy way I've found to change subconscious experiences. Remember, you're subconscious cannot tell the difference between what is real and what is false so it'll go to work just as hard with these knew images as it did with your old ones.

2) You get a picture of a spine or a person with perfect posture and look at it everyday for a minute or two a day while visualizing your back as being healthy and straight.

3) You find a good chiropractor that you like and believe in. While they adjust you physically, they also let you know what they did and how this is going to help your back better. This reinforces the belief that your back is healing and it will go about doing so.

[Dharma]

Originally Posted by rei

i haven't tried using intention with this before. i was in a car wreck a few years ago, which left an 'issue' with my back. i recently came to an underlying (spiritual) reason for the experience, which i won't go into here.

i would like your suggestions for intention(s) i could use to encourage my lumbar disks (discs?) to return to their state of full wholeness. (by asking for intentions, i am asking for your ideas for specific wording.) also if you have experience working with LOA to heal an issue that manifests in the physical body and are willing to share a bit from that experience, it may assist me in reprogramming my mind to accept this as a possibility.

during the string of moments after the wreck, multiple docs said it would be 'permanent' and, well, in the moment of physical pain i was not really paying as much attention, and i internalized that belief in the permanence... (plus, the docs show me MRI films and i can literally see the distortion... which i admit does interfere with believing i can/will release it.) i am frustrated that i allowed myself to accept it, but then again, no point in being overly self-critical either. i did the best i could for where i was at that time.

would i need to do that thing of recording my voice and listening to the intention 1000s of times, or is there another approach i could use for this?

When you back hurts, it's hurting in the moment. It is hurting for what is happening now, not way back from the car accident. Using the past like this obscures what is going on in the present.

Your back hurts. What does the spine do? It supports your body... it supports you. The way you are supporting yourself now, is causing you pain. Does that change things or give you any insight? Being in the lumbar region and near the root chakra, i'd say look at issues around what fires you up, your passions in life. Are you supporting those?

[LifeIsNotADressRehearsal]

Helped me tremendously...

7 Steps to a Pain-Free Life: How to Rapidly Relieve Back and Neck Pain"
Robin McKenzie [recommended!]
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"Back Sense: A Revolutionary Approach to Halting the Cycle of Chronic Back
Pain"
Ronald D. Siegel

[Cantando]

Try practising Qigong twice a day for 10 minutes. It is gentle but powerful, but you have to get your breathing right:

YouTube - Wu Xing Qi Gong

This is the Wu Xing variation, based on the 5 elements/phases: wood, fire, earth, metal and water.

Another variation is The Eight Silken Movements. A good book which helped me is:

Qigong for Beginners: Eight Easy Movements for Vibrant Health by Stanley Wilson.

[rei]

Originally Posted by Cantando

Try practising Qigong twice a day for 10 minutes. It is gentle but powerful, but you have to get your breathing right:

YouTube - Wu Xing Qi Gong

This is the Wu Xing variation, based on the 5 elements/phases: wood, fire, earth, metal and water.

Another variation is The Eight Silken Movements. A good book which helped me is:

Qigong for Beginners: Eight Easy Movements for Vibrant Health by Stanley Wilson.

i'm familiar with qigong. the last time i tried it, i had an unpleasant reaction, like i accessed too much energy at once and it affected my psychological state (made me a bit crazy). at that time, my mental health was unstable, and now it isn't so perhaps i could try it again. thanks

[Cantando]

Originally Posted by rei

the last time i tried it, i had an unpleasant reaction, like i accessed too much energy at once and it affected my psychological state (made me a bit crazy).

Rei, I know what you mean. I experienced the same.

I found the best thing was to take it very, very slowly. For example, just raise one arm to chest level while inhaling. Then hold it for a moment. Then lower it slowly, while exhaling. Do that for a few days. If you feel comfortable with that, repeat it a few times.

When that is OK, do the same with the other arm, then with both arms together.

It's all a matter of doing it at your own speed, not what a teacher or course tell you to do.

There's a lot of pressure in the West to complete courses quickly and get results.

Just do what you can do at the time. Take it slowly. Don't force it or think too much about it.

[themaster]

If this were my problem and I was fixing it myself at this point I would now recommend study of

- chakra's
- Seeking a spiritual healer (which can help you sometimes match a vibration and get the healing done.. I once heard a story of this exact same thing said to Bashar for validation )

[Tristan Bull]

I think the first thing that is holding you back is that you actually have ACCEPTED that you indeed have a problem in the first place.

On top of that you have ACCEPTED that you have limiting beliefs about that problem.

I can obviously understand that you would believe you have an injury when a doctor tells you but you shouldn't accept it as being a fact, question it.

Doctors have been proven wrong millions of times, so that's nothing new.

The first thing you are doing wrong is actually admitting you have a problem. So in your mind it is a fact that your back is injured.

Energy goes where attention flows, so by even paying attention to your "sore" back you are making it sore and feeling that pain.

This may sound a little crazy but hang with me.

We are too quick to accept something as fact, you should question EVERYTHING. So the doctors said it wasn't normal but what is "NORMAL" anyway?

I have broken both my collar bones and you should see the scans for them, they look whack! Definetley not normal but they are totally healed and I don't feel any pain at all, ever.

Accepting that you have a problem is the worst thing you can do, because you are going to go through life thinking you have a bad back. Any time you feel pain you are going to say to yourself there goes my bad back.

I used to have a similar situation to you. I used to have a really bad back, or so I thought.

It was incredibly painful and it would annoy me everyday. I used to play football and after every game I was in so much pain I could hardly walk, I looked like an 80 year old man. (I was 17 at the time).

I went to the chiropractor and she told me I had a herniated disc.

So from then on it I absolutely ACCEPTED that I had this problem. I stopped playing football and pretty much stoped exercising because I believed I had a "bad back".

It got so bad one day and I was in so much pain that I went to the doctors to see if they could do something.

So they took some scans and got back to me in a couple of weeks.

Turns out there wasn't a thing wrong with my back, it was in perfect condition.

But because I thought I had a herniated disc I was carrying the belief that my back was injured and any slight feeling of pain I really focused on and probably over exagerated it.

But in my mind it felt like I was going through hell.

Recently I just completed an advanced 3 month wieghts and cardio program and my back was fine. Admittidly sometimes it felt a bit sore but when it did I just said to myself my body must be a bit tight I need to stretch.

So I stretched and then I told my self that I was good and I was ok and just continued on.

Pain is mostly in the mind.

Have you ever gotten really drunk and bumped in to something or fell over but at the time it didn't really hurt, you didn't really feel it?

I'm not saying you should get drunk all the time lol.

But my point is that you FEEL pain in your mind. Have you ever heard when something hurts their foot or something so their friend punches them in the arm and says now your mind is not thinking about your foot.

Again I'm not saying injure another part of your body but instead don't focus on it.

Like I said at the start you have admitted that you have a problem and are trying to fix it, but if you don't have a problem in the first place their is nothing to fix.

This might sound crazy and a bit out there but it's all about your beliefs. If you can change your beliefs to having a healthy body then your back pain will go away.

You are focusing on the negative instead of the postive.

Ignore the negative, stop looking at the MRI's and just move forward and focus on the positive.

I'd also suggest you stretch. There are some pretty good DVD's out there that deal with stretching the entire body, you will feel much better after doing the session and it will help your back.

Also I would recommend doing yoga, if you don't want to go to a class again you can get a DVD and do it at home. This will also make your physical body feel really good and it will also help change that belief by doing something in the "real world".

Phew! This post got a little out of hand.

I hope it helps you though

Cheers,
Tristan

[rei]

Originally Posted by Tristan Bull

I think the first thing that is holding you back is that you actually have ACCEPTED that you indeed have a problem in the first place.

On top of that you have ACCEPTED that you have limiting beliefs about that problem.

I can obviously understand that you would believe you have an injury when a doctor tells you but you shouldn't accept it as being a fact, question it.

Doctors have been proven wrong millions of times, so that's nothing new.

The first thing you are doing wrong is actually admitting you have a problem. So in your mind it is a fact that your back is injured.

Energy goes where attention flows, so by even paying attention to your "sore" back you are making it sore and feeling that pain.

This may sound a little crazy but hang with me.

We are too quick to accept something as fact, you should question EVERYTHING. So the doctors said it wasn't normal but what is "NORMAL" anyway?

I have broken both my collar bones and you should see the scans for them, they look whack! Definetley not normal but they are totally healed and I don't feel any pain at all, ever.

Accepting that you have a problem is the worst thing you can do, because you are going to go through life thinking you have a bad back. Any time you feel pain you are going to say to yourself there goes my bad back.

I used to have a similar situation to you. I used to have a really bad back, or so I thought.

It was incredibly painful and it would annoy me everyday. I used to play football and after every game I was in so much pain I could hardly walk, I looked like an 80 year old man. (I was 17 at the time).

I went to the chiropractor and she told me I had a herniated disc.

So from then on it I absolutely ACCEPTED that I had this problem. I stopped playing football and pretty much stoped exercising because I believed I had a "bad back".

It got so bad one day and I was in so much pain that I went to the doctors to see if they could do something.

So they took some scans and got back to me in a couple of weeks.

Turns out there wasn't a thing wrong with my back, it was in perfect condition.

But because I thought I had a herniated disc I was carrying the belief that my back was injured and any slight feeling of pain I really focused on and probably over exagerated it.

But in my mind it felt like I was going through hell.

Recently I just completed an advanced 3 month wieghts and cardio program and my back was fine. Admittidly sometimes it felt a bit sore but when it did I just said to myself my body must be a bit tight I need to stretch.

So I stretched and then I told my self that I was good and I was ok and just continued on.

Pain is mostly in the mind.

Have you ever gotten really drunk and bumped in to something or fell over but at the time it didn't really hurt, you didn't really feel it?

I'm not saying you should get drunk all the time lol.

But my point is that you FEEL pain in your mind. Have you ever heard when something hurts their foot or something so their friend punches them in the arm and says now your mind is not thinking about your foot.

Again I'm not saying injure another part of your body but instead don't focus on it.

Like I said at the start you have admitted that you have a problem and are trying to fix it, but if you don't have a problem in the first place their is nothing to fix.

This might sound crazy and a bit out there but it's all about your beliefs. If you can change your beliefs to having a healthy body then your back pain will go away.

You are focusing on the negative instead of the postive.

Ignore the negative, stop looking at the MRI's and just move forward and focus on the positive.

I'd also suggest you stretch. There are some pretty good DVD's out there that deal with stretching the entire body, you will feel much better after doing the session and it will help your back.

Also I would recommend doing yoga, if you don't want to go to a class again you can get a DVD and do it at home. This will also make your physical body feel really good and it will also help change that belief by doing something in the "real world".

Phew! This post got a little out of hand.

I hope it helps you though

Cheers,
Tristan

you're right about accepting the limitations. you're right that i can rewrite my perspective.

but i just want to point out that i would bet your own situation is much easier because your medical imaging showed a perfectly healthy back when you previously thought there was something wrong. that was probably a major contribution to giving yourself the necessary level of permission to release the perceived limitation. if i got a scan that showed my back was entirely perfect in its structure, that would give me a helpful boost for releasing as well.

thanks for the post Tristan.

[Tristan Bull]

Oh yeah I totally agree, the funny thing was that when I saw the scan was fine the pain totally went away.

So my point was pain was just coming from the state of mind.

But as I mentioned I have broken both my collar bones, those scans DON'T look good. The bones are all out of place and the doctors told me it wasn't "normal" for my bones to look like that and I would experience chronic pain in my arms and shoulders and I won't be able to go to the gym or do anything that would cause stress to my collar bones.

They also told me I would never play football again.

Today my arms are perfectly fine, I have played two seasons of football with no injury at all I have been to the gym countless amounts of times and as I said in my first post I just completed and intense wieghts program and my back was fine and my arms were totally fine.

However if I was to get a scan today it would look like I was suffering from serious pain, as I said it's all out of place and just doesn't look pretty and certainly not normal.

But in my mind it is completely normal. It's such a solid fact that I don't even think about it.

You can't tell from the outside they have been broken.

The doctors perscribed me strong pain killers but I never used them because I believed that my arms were fine.

If you don't already know when you break your collar bone you can't plaster it because of the akward positioning, so it's extremely painful because any slight movement can cause pain. You just have your arm in a sling and I was lucky enough to brake both of them

My whole point is stop accepting there is a problem, it's your body and you control it.

If you have seen the secret just look at that guy, I think his name was mike goodman? The guy who was in a plane crash and smashed his whole body up, couldn't walk, couldn't talk. But now he is fine.

The more you THINK you have a problem the more you WILL have a problem.

Cheers,
Tristan