What happened to the "Law of Attraction"?

[Ace22]

Does anyone remember the law of attraction? It use to be one of the hottest subjects in this forum.

I would have thought that with "The Secret" Mania that hit the planet 2 years ago, one of two things would have happened.

1. Many people would have established significant "Health, Wealth and Happiness" from manifesting their intentions that it would have become a very popular accepted practice in the Free world. In doing so, it would have become much more main stream. OR......

2. It and it's followers would fall to attrition.

With all the material that was being published on LOA, I can't see how people just couldn't grasp the simplicity of IM. I didn't know anyone that wasn't carrying around a copy of both "Think and grow rich" and/or "The Science of getting rich".

Did the enthusiasm die? I think I posted this here a year ago but it's worth repeating:"nothing sells like hope".

I believe the law of attraction works whether or not people believe in it. I prefer it's new Hybrid name, the "Law of Resonance". And although I still cling to my affirmations, I believe timing is still an essential part of the equation. In quantum physics, we say you can't manifest your intention until your a "vibrational match". In Christianity we say, God won't put your enemies at your feet until He knows you won't crush them.

Both require a tremendous amount of growth which is why I used the term "attrition". Many gave up on LOA quicker than you can say Acai berry.

But I firmly believe in the words of Bob Proctor:"The Law of Attraction is working all the time whether or not you believe in it".

What are your thoughts? Why do you think the "Hype" has died down?

[themaster]

WTF! Are you talking about?

In my reality.. I see LOA and "new age" ideas growing all over the place.. specifically I keep seeing it used in tv/movies lately.. I don't know if oprah or larry king are still talking about it.. but it's wakeup call message worked like a charm; far as I'm concerned.. (you do know it was designed as a wakeup call yes?.. well maybe no for some)

Growth from here or then is only natural.. technically speaking since time is a illusion.. the news just broke to me..

You have to remember that society has a way of making a big deal out of nothing.. fads or whatever.. and "the secret" was in that classification..

Other fads I've noticed
- Twitter
- Youtube (when this fad was heating up I didn't get it.. recently I get it.. great source of "new age" videos these days)
- Myspace/Facebook/whatever
- Diet fads.. remember atkins?

For the record tv shows I can remember.. referencing new age stuff.. recently
- Dexter (season 2)
- Kidnapped
- Pushing Daises
- Star Wars

[cacheborn]

This is really strange. I got introduced to LOA maybe a year or so back. I really got into it past few months and I see it being discussed everyehere. On the forum, on twitter (people having professional LOA sites are following me!). I found some great posts on Steve's blog, I don't know how I missed them before. And the other day, I bought, "Ask and it is given!" (A great book btw.)

I think you need to practice LOA to see LOA around you. Good luck.

[Zas]

Originally Posted by cacheborn

I think you need to practice LOA to see LOA around you. Good luck.

Yeah, that's how I see it. It's been new to me and my life as of just this year.

[moonrambler]

Originally Posted by Ace22

Both require a tremendous amount of growth which is why I used the term "attrition". Many gave up on LOA quicker than you can say Acai berry.

I think you said it all right there.

[RMcIntyre]

Exactly....I think people watched The Secret, tried the simplistic formula outlined in the movie, then gave up when they didn't get immediate results. The Secret is a great introduction to the LOA, but it's really just the tip of the iceberg.

It's too bad they don't teach this stuff in school. I think learning how to apply the LOA is far more valuable than anything I ever learned in a classroom.

Cheers!

[shasah]

Admittedly, I've been out of the loop for a long time, but LoA is brand new to me. It seems some of it is common sense, some of it is retraining your subconscious and some of it seems very far out there. And the "craze" may have been about 2 years ago, but the ideas have actually been out there for a long time. "Psycho Cybernetics" was written in the 60's and although some of the information is dated, it has a lot of the same principles.

Still exploring on the subject and hope it will help me expand instead of having so many limits like I did a year ago. I'm also looking at "The Power of Now" but once again, I find that some of it goes against my newly found principles. For instance, my interpretation of part of it is that to get rid of pain, you must get rid of emotions. ?? I lived many years with minimal emotions and I now revel in my emotions. The highs and lows are what make life worth living (of course I'd like more highs than lows).

So, aside from "The Secret", what are the best LoA books to read to get a better grasp of the concepts?

[Speedbump]

I definitely still see LOA stuff out there, but then I'm actively pursuing LOA goals and have been for some time now. I am one of the folks who saw "The Secret," was highly intrigued, and tried the parking space test. It took me over a week to "get it" and even then I had to do massive work just to get one parking space. It got easier with practice and now I get great spaces all the time. Unfortunately, other things were not so easy for me. I had a tremendous amount of development and personal healing to do before I could start to see consistent results (other than parking spaces!).

I have not given up, however, and today I am a completely different person than I was three years ago when I started the journey to this moment. I am happier and wiser and more whole. I am smarter and calmer and nicer. Even if I don't take one more step forward in this life (fat chance!), all of the work I've put in has been worth it just for the results I've gotten so far.

However, I am not the type of person to quit when I'm ahead, so I'm going for broke, baby!

I have finally, for about six weeks now, been very consistent in my positive thinking habits. I have also increasingly been able to nonjudgmentally notice and clear with EFT negative thought loops as they come up. A lot of those loops are based on deep-seated, old issues, some of which I didn't even know existed until I peeled off other layers of the pain onion.

The day it is confirmed to me through results that I can achieve my rather ambitious life goals will be a day with much boogying to "Celebration" at my house. Then I know my investment in myself is bearing delightful fruit. I fully expect that day to come before Jan. 1, 2010, and I am really excited about it.

[Speedbump]

Originally Posted by shasah

So, aside from "The Secret", what are the best LoA books to read to get a better grasp of the concepts?

A good one I am reading right now is "TNT: The Power Within You" by Claude M. Bristol and Harold Sherman. Very clear language in it. I believe (checking) yes, it was originally printed in 1954, apparently.

HTH!

[Indy107]

Originally Posted by RMcIntyre

Exactly....I think people watched The Secret, tried the simplistic formula outlined in the movie, then gave up when they didn't get immediate results. The Secret is a great introduction to the LOA, but it's really just the tip of the iceberg.

Cheers!

Bob Proctor even said in the movie, "And now you are being introduced to The Secret".

That's all it was, an introduction.

Despite the commercial feel of it - I think it was a darned good intro too. But only the original version with Esther Hicks. Without her, or Abraham, it's just not the same. Remember they've been teaching this a lot longer than Rhonda Byrne and The Secret.

[Indy107]

Originally Posted by shasah

So, aside from "The Secret", what are the best LoA books to read to get a better grasp of the concepts?

I just bought a new one, The Nature of Personal Reality - Seth.

There's also It Works - RH Jarrett, Power of your Subconscious Mind - Joseph Murphy, Ask and It Is Given - Esther Hicks, The Magic of Believing - Claude Bristol (now where have I heard that before )

Here's one with a slightly different slant - Discover the Power Within You - Eric Butterworth. This one teaches LOA with the premise it was what Jesus was trying to teach us.

And many, many more.

[Ace22]

WTF? Does somebody have something against Wallace Wattles and Napoleon Hill? They're the fathers of LoA.

[Indy107]

WTF? Does somebody have something against Wallace Wattles and Napoleon Hill? They're the fathers of LoA.

You are so right. I guess I just assumed these would be a given.

So a few more:

Think and Grow Rich, The Science of Getting Rich, and Charles Haanel's Master Key System. While I'm at it, if you can find the audio of Earl Nightingale's "The Strangest Secret"....that would be good too.

There - that should cover all the 'fathers'.

[shasah]

Thank you very much!! Between 2 threads, I now have 14 books to look at. There were a couple that I already have, and I am looking forward to getting the rest. I'd better be careful though, I find myself reading more than one at a time and comparing information. Need to read one, absorb it, and then decide if I agree or have problems with it. I'll let you know how it goes.

[Parthon]

I think "The Secret" hype has died down, now that it's seen to not be the quick fix solution to everyone's problems. People discovered that you can generate abundant opportunities with LoA, but you still need to take action. For the rest of us, it works, we use it, and it's as real as the laws of gravity or weather.

As for the fore fathers of LoA, the idea that thoughts create reality have been around for millenia. As A Man Thinketh is probably the earliest of the books that actually solidly put the entire idea down in one form. Even Napoleon Hill mentions that he's not the first to think of it, just the first to explain it with such clarity and depth.

[Acting Like Godot]

This will surprise many of you, but the following cartoon movie contains many useful lessons on the Law of Attraction:



I'm not kidding. The directors of this movie clearly understand visualisation techniques, synchronicities, meditation, the power of beliefs, the danger of negative emptions etc etc.

[gg282]

I'll have to check out that movie! I would have never of guessed.

Anyway, if the popularity of LOA has died down, my opinion would be because it does require the follow:

* Actually knowing what you really want
* A commitment to visualization, affirmations, ect
* Belief and certainty that it really works (but unfortunately on the physical
plane, it takes time to manifest)
* Spending time and reading resources to learn more about this.

Personally I know it works. For the last 3 years I have been watching what happens in my life in relation to what I am feeling or vibrating. And I do see many close matches to those thoughts.

I know that when I join a gym, for example, I go for the first 2 weeks and I usually will never return, just because other things or new things are going on in my life. As such I was not able to commit to the workout program as other people don't commit to the LOA program.

[Indy107]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

This will surprise many of you, but the following cartoon movie contains many useful lessons on the Law of Attraction

Hmmm, Dreamworks, Kung Fu, a Panda, Jack Black, and LOA? I will definitely have to watch this then!

Thanks ALG

[Acting Like Godot]

Listen carefully, when the turtle says: "In this universe, there are NO coincidences ....".

[themaster]

Hmm.. yah I forgot about that one ALG.. you know once awakened you notice universe references everywhere.. there are a lot in our movies

[Parthon]

And the dragon scroll, definately read what's on the dragon scroll.

[David21]

It's probably that many people think they understand it, without actually understanding it. People have a strange tendency to cling to things, to fall head-over-heels with a new belief system - it's not any different for the LOA. When it doesn't work for them, they give up. People look for easy ways out of a difficult world.

[Dharma]

Originally Posted by Ace22

Did the enthusiasm die? I think I posted this here a year ago but it's worth repeating:"nothing sells like hope".
[...]
What are your thoughts? Why do you think the "Hype" has died down?

Simply, its time has past. It and the Secret were an introduction to the idea that you create your own reality. That's it. Just to get the beginnings of the idea into the mass consciousness. Everyone's creative "process" has so much denial in it they cannot see they are getting exactly what they want all the time. The teachings from The Secret and LOA books will not get anyone past their own denial...

I'm sure people get frustrated and go "f-this"! I don't blame them.

People would get more from reading Tolle and following what he says. Though the Oprah rah-rah over A New Earth has died down too. Maybe people are just lazy or too patterned to switch their focus to a new mindset. Is being so hard??

[Ace22]

Originally Posted by Dharma

Simply, its time has past. It and the Secret were an introduction to the idea that you create your own reality. That's it. Just to get the beginnings of the idea into the mass consciousness. Everyone's creative "process" has so much denial in it they cannot see they are getting exactly what they want all the time. The teachings from The Secret and LOA books will not get anyone past their own denial...

I'm sure people get frustrated and go "f-this"! I don't blame them.

People would get more from reading Tolle and following what he says. Though the Oprah rah-rah over A New Earth has died down too. Maybe people are just lazy or too patterned to switch their focus to a new mindset. Is being so hard??

Yes but If I introduced you to air-travel when you were still using a horse and buggy, you wouldn't say, "Oh, that thing with wings, that was just an introduction". Hell no, you would be standing in line getting your shoes X-rayed.

The point I'm trying to make, or the question I'm trying to get answered is; if the LoA was the "SECRET" why isn't LoA a house hold word? Why didn't it catch on like these pesky little keyboard thingies and phones that show movies?

[Parthon]

Because The Secret isn't a thing, it's a belief. Getting people to buy new toys is one thing, getting to change the way people think is another.

It's takes a lot of effort and commitment to change, and without that, people often give up and fall back into their old mindset. The Secret was a glimpse into a new mindset for almost everyone who watched it, but very few willt ake it to heart. Even those that do were probably already predisposed to being open to new things.

It's option number 3) Most people who watched it have falled to attrition, but some have have established a better life from it.

[Ace22]

Originally Posted by Parthon

Because The Secret isn't a thing, it's a belief.

It's suppose to be a quantum physics "Law". Just as definable as "Gravity". So from that POV, It IS a thing. It's a thing that is always working whether or not you're aware of it. It works when you become a vibrational match for your intention.

Why isn't Machio Kaku bragging about it?

[Parthon]

Originally Posted by Ace22

It's suppose to be a quantum physics "Law". Just as definable as "Gravity". So from that POV, It IS a thing. It's a thing that is always working whether or not you're aware of it. It works when you become a vibrational match for your intention.

Why isn't Machio Kaku bragging about it?

A law is still not a physical thing. It's a concept that has physical impact. You can't hold a law of nature, you can't buy it from a store, and people don't make them.

There's also many laws that took decades to become accepted; gravity, thermodynamics, and heliocentrism for example. considering that provable and identifiable laws such as these took that many years to be accepted and become proper knowledge, how long would an unprovable law like LoA take? A century perhaps, or longer.

I believe that LoA true, and I would say anyone in this forum would also believe that LoA true. We don't need to argue the merits of LoA. The discussion in question is, why don't more regular people believe in LoA, and why hasn't The Secret stolen it's way into the homes and minds of everyone on the planet.

Simply: The majority of people aren't ready for it yet.

[Tanemon]

Originally Posted by Ace22

Does anyone remember the law of attraction? It use to be one of the hottest subjects in this forum.

I would have thought that with "The Secret" Mania that hit the planet 2 years ago, one of two things would have happened.

1. Many people would have established significant "Health, Wealth and Happiness" from manifesting their intentions that it would have become a very popular accepted practice in the Free world. In doing so, it would have become much more main stream. OR......

2. It and it's followers would fall to attrition.

With all the material that was being published on LOA, I can't see how people just couldn't grasp the simplicity of IM.

Two points...

The principle we call the Law of Attraction or Law of Resonance has been around forever. Interestingly, there was a big wave of interest in it in America in the late 19th century, under the banner "New Thought" (you can look this term up on the Wikipedia).

Second, you refer to the Free world. I was in Cuba a couple year ago - many do not consider that to be part of the "free world". But I'm sure you could find adherents to the LoA philosophy in Cuba. As a matter of fact, a nation that in a few decades went from a horrible gulf between the rich few and poor many, overall populace with about a 50% literacy rate and no options for higher education if you were black or non-Catholic, to a nation with a literacy rate of over 95%, with lots of free post-secondary training and education, and being one of the world's leaders in organic agriculture might be thought of as having manifested something positive. Despite the criticisms that also may be levelled at the country and its leadership.

[shasah]

You also have to remember that most people resist change with everything in them. Think about the last time you tried to change something at work or school. How much resistance did you run into? Plenty I'll bet. There is also a huge learning curve with LoA. It's not just changing how you do something, but how you actually think about life. A lot of people have a hard time deciding to change their hair or their glasses, never mind their entire mindset.

[TheColonel]

Originally Posted by Ace22

WTF? Does somebody have something against Wallace Wattles and Napoleon Hill? They're the fathers of LoA.

Actually, Jesus taught LOA. It's throughout the bible. Here's a concise version:

Mark 11:24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.

And before Jesus, there were countless others.