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Old 09-25-2009, 02:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default I somehow manifested a loss when I intended a win

My software company was chosen as a top 30 innovative company in my state. There was a semifinals competition for the finals, and I did not win. I truly wanted to win, I intended to win, I practiced my presentation. Admittedly, it was not as smooth as I wanted, since I'm not entirely comfortable with public speaking. But I noticed most of the participants were very nervous. And the none of the judges were technical people.

When they announced the winners, I was actually shocked I did not win. I am baffled how I could manifest a loss when I was very clear that I wanted to win. Is it my subconscious mind sabotaging? Why did this happen?

Here is a footnote: I did meet another company owner there who was very interested in my company. His company has similarities to mine, and there could be opportunity. He has venture capital contacts, and said he'd call me this week to put me in contact with a VC consultant. If this pans out, it would be a LOA thing, since my primary goal is to make several million dollars, not primarily to win the contest. This may be considered a sync.

Could somebody take a try at interpreting this situation? I am baffled as to why I lost when I truly and congruently intended to win.
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I can take a stab.. when it came to your feeling of winning did you feel it absolutely??

When you lost.. did you get down on yourself or take it with ease?
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There might be the subconsious thing of really not wanting to make that speech?
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I will offer two similar examples from my personal experience.
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The world is made of collective consciousness. Thats why you weren't going to manifest a win alone.

Teach every person in your company about consciousness.

If you had everyone in the company or at least most of the top people including yourself, recreating their thoughts, Your company would become unstoppable.
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Old 09-25-2009, 05:01 AM   #6 (permalink)
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The world is made of collective consciousness. Thats why you weren't going to manifest a win alone.

Teach every person in your company about consciousness.

If you had everyone in the company or at least most of the top people including yourself, recreating their thoughts, Your company would become unstoppable.
This is very true but it doesn't mean you can get your desired outcome even with those around you not in alignment.. however I get the feeling as is true for a lot of company's he's just a 1 man show
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One year, I won a prestigious literary competition in my country (in the poetry category) and received a national award. It was a very big thing for me.

The competition is held once every two years. So I set the intention to win again. Not only that, I set the intention to set a kind of record, by winning the first, second & third prizes (as contestants are permitted to send in multiple entries). I visualised etc etc.

When the time came for the next competition, I was flabbergasted.

Why? The organisers changed the rules. For the first time ever, they said that previous first-prize winners were not allowed to participate again.

So not only did I not win the 1st, 2nd and 3rd prize ... I did not even win a single prize .... I did not even get to submit my entries.

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How to interpret this?

My wife's explanation was that I was too greedy and therefore the universe would not let me win. I was greedy, not only because I wanted to win again, but because I set out to win all three prizes in my category.

This explanation is generally not very consistent with many schools of LOA theory. But it could be consistent with those models of reality that include some Higher Being (eg "God") as a final arbiter of whether you get what you want or not.
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This explanation is generally not very consistent with many schools of LOA theory. But it could be consistent with those models of reality that include some Higher Being (eg "God") as a final arbiter of whether you get what you want or not.
But how does it fit in with your current model of reality (assuming it's sufficiently developed to make such a statement)? I've long assumed, perhaps wrongly, that you had a more limitless conception...
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So I have this certain current affairs blog, which is quite popular and well-known in my country, and in a certain year, it was nominated for a certain blog award.

I duly accepted the nomination. The first prize in my category was a laptop and a special trophy to be created by one of the famous sculptors in my country.

I visualised for:

(1) a laptop; and
(2) the special trophy.

I visualised the laptop a lot. It was harder to visualise the trophy. I had no idea what it would look like. I kinda imagined it as made of clear glass.

So what happened next? Well, I was a top 10 finalist. So I was invited to the ceremony. On the actual day, it was announced that I was one of the top 3 finalists. Marvellous.

Uhhh. I didn't win. First prize went to somebody else.

And I saw the trophy. It looked very different from what I had visualised. For one thing, it wasn't made of glass. It was made of bronze.

Anyway, a few days later, my wife's company suddenly decided to buy new laptops. The company also decided to get rid of its old laptops, by doing a mini auction among the staff. My wife got a secondhand laptop at some ridiculously low price. She gave it to me.

So I got a laptop, after all.

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How to interpret this?

I think that some care must be taken in how you visualise things. What I really wanted was to take the first place in this competition. Instead I visualised the material things that represented the first prize.

The trophy that I visualised was way different from the trophy that the sculptor designed. Uhhh, maybe I screwed my own chances there. The universe can't give you a clear glass trophy from another Conscious Creator, when that Conscious Creator has decided to use bronze instead.

As for the laptop, I visualised it and it came. Uhhh, but not in the way I had expected.

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First of all, thank you for your answers. It is incredibly helpful to me.

themaster - you are correct, this is a one man show. Which is part of the problem, I need people to expand, and need venture capital to hire them. And yes, I did get very down when I did not win. This surprised myself. I am surprised about my own reaction, which is a bit out of character for me. It's part disappointment, part self recrimination, part reinforcement of personal doubts I have about the viability of my company (bingo! on the last one).

themaster - also, I did all I could consciously do to get the feeling of winning it absolutely. However, I'm not discounting the possibility there were subconscious, or unknown to me blocks existing. This is the most frustrating part of LOA to me.

ssandra - you are correct also, I did not want to make that speech. I was absolutely nervous for a week prior. I'm proud of myself that the speech got done, but the effort was to just do the speech, not do it with any impact or style. I feel that the speech done with more impact would have left me feeling better. Also, my presentation did not address a couple of key criteria I glossed over, but were most important to these particular judges. I was hoping the content of the presentation would override the actually delivery. Part of this may be a feeling of loss of control, I am putting it out there in the public, and waiting hat in hand for the subjective opinions of the judges.

Acting Like Godot - I'm not sure whether to attribute all events (these and others) to a direct manifestation or the possibility, like you indicate, that god is the final arbitor despite our best efforts. However, that is an essential philosophical question. In that case, we could only do our best to become clear, and let the chips fall where they may.....Like in the case of your laptop computer, I am also of the school that we generally can manifest most things, but they can manifest in unexpected, or even unwanted ways. And I think the more clarity we have around or manifestations, the more they will arrive in pleasing ways. I fear the subconscious, because we have such limited control over it. I'm wondering if that's why meditation and techniques like recording wishes and flooding the mind with them, and self hypnosis are so effective, they program the sub-subconscious.

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Old 09-27-2009, 02:30 PM   #11 (permalink)
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There might be the subconsious thing of really not wanting to make that speech?
That's what I was thinking. fear of public speaking is the most prevalent fear in America. i don't know how prevalent it is elsewhere, but i would guess that it's up there on the list almost everywhere.
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That's what I was thinking. fear of public speaking is the most prevalent fear in America. i don't know how prevalent it is elsewhere, but i would guess that it's up there on the list almost everywhere.
I had huge apprehension prior to the speech. I've done a few in my time, with mixed results, but always had a lot of anxiety. With this particular presentation, I got through it by leaning on my PowerPoint. What I noticed is that, if I had to give another today, I would be somewhat less anxious, and I would give the speech somewhat more skillfully. So I think the key to reducing fear of public speaking is to speak as frequently as possible.

In manifesting the *loss* here is what I've come up with:

1. Poor quality of speaking, it was a subjective prize, and being likable to the judges meant a lot.
2. None of the judges were technical, and my presentation was purely technical, as this is a software company.
3. There were some really good companies up against me, and they addressed some of the key scoring criteria better than I. Tip of the hat to them.
4. It doesn't mean my company is bad.

Interestingly, I have been in a very low energy state since the contest. I did not work to raise my energy level (until today, in fact). And another hit manifested in my business, Google suspended my Adwords campaigns, which were important to the business. Hmmm, this law of attraction stuff is powerful, once you know about it, you must do the work to keep your energy levels up there, or risk a cascade.
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I guess if I haven't stated it.. you should chalk this up as a learning experience.. (hopefully with a positive perspective) and not re-enforce your reality.. meaning hopefully you already past the 'down' on yourself stage and should it happen again.. you whip through it faster..

If you haven't heard me talk about it, I suggest all manifestations.. as "preferences" there is a danger in forcing things or trying too much to control your reality.. in that you may be slapped in the face with that experience.. (sounds a bit too fearful above ) but what I mean is you need to validate all experiences.. be it a car crash or getting spilled with coffee or winning the lottery.. in validating them you are just saying I don't need that experience if that is what you want..

When it comes to the BLOCKS the point is to actualize your reality EVEN when you FAIL.. the idea is you can't change your reality if you don't keep up the feeling about how you want it.. you then just re-enforce beliefs.. I know you won.. I know in a certain reality right now you have won.. I also know you could change your reality right now shift your entire illusion of the past (continuity) and create the win right now.. anything is possible.. choose what you want.. (before you posted)

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Hmmm, this law of attraction stuff is powerful, once you know about it, you must do the work to keep your energy levels up there, or risk a cascade.
Incorrect.. this is a belief you are creating.. does it serve you?

I think what your really reaching for here is.. "circumstances don't matter, only state of being matters" (my teacher says hint.. matters = manifestation..)
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1. Poor quality of speaking, it was a subjective prize, and being likable to the judges meant a lot.
2. None of the judges were technical, and my presentation was purely technical, as this is a software company.
3. There were some really good companies up against me, and they addressed some of the key scoring criteria better than I. Tip of the hat to them.
4. It doesn't mean my company is bad.
Don't bother with excuses.. they are there to make you feel better and these are definitly written that way.. manifesting a win has nothing to do with skill or presentation or anything.. while these our real world goals of impressing other people.. it really has nothing to do at all with getting what you want.. if you are trying to manifest within REALITY's rules you make it that much harder on yourself..

Understand that from my perspective you are PERFECT.. you cannot make a wrong decision.. there's a little LOVE for yah

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The world is made of collective consciousness. Thats why you weren't going to manifest a win alone.

Teach every person in your company about consciousness.

If you had everyone in the company or at least most of the top people including yourself, recreating their thoughts, Your company would become unstoppable.
Nice contribution to discussion.

I agree with you about collective consciousness being a big factor.

The sole factor? an unstoppable factor? That's where I need to understand more, Silenced 140

Please provide an example of a company that recreated their thoughts and then became unstoppable. A story you can detail for us? A Web link that tells a story of tha kind?

It would help me, and inspire me. Probably others here too.
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The world is made of collective consciousness. Thats why you weren't going to manifest a win alone.
Is this the answer to the question about two expert manifesters attempting to manifest two contradictory manifestations?

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Teach every person in your company about consciousness.

If you had everyone in the company or at least most of the top people including yourself, recreating their thoughts, Your company would become unstoppable.
This doesn't jive with the explanation of the LoA that I see here in this forum. The consensus seems to be that it only takes one person to manifest something. If you failed then you weren't truly "in alignment" or at the right "vibrational state" or something like that.
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How much did you really expect to win? Sometimes we want badly enough that it can still keep our vibration at certain level so we could enter the reality of the same vibration,but most of the time there is split energy.
when this happens to me I just tell my self I can still have the outcome and its means (the money,exposure and success )I just will have to allow it(align my energy with the desire) in a different way, a way that easier to expect and believe the desirable outcome (that could be your new contact). The universe didnt put you down, you didnt loose ,it will just come through a different channel. You dont have to worry about what channel it will be, the universe will find the one thats easy to use to give what you want and the easiest way possible. Just relax and celebrate your success right now to show how much you trust the universe and your self in this manifestation.
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The universe didnt put you down, you didnt loose ,it will just come through a different channel. You dont have to worry about what channel it will be, the universe will find the one thats easy to use to give what you want and the easiest way possible. Just relax and celebrate your success right now to show how much you trust the universe and your self in this manifestation.
Well, I do have a meeting set up for this week as a direct result of attending this event. It's a preliminary introduction, and this person has direct access to venture capital. I'm refining my intentions for this meeting now. True enough that what I wanted out of the contest was exposure to receiving venture capital.

*And that is what I got - direct exposure to venture capital*

However it did not arrive in the form of winning the contest, and getting my name in the paper, and being noticed and called by somebody (as I had imagined). It arrived in a much more direct manner - I met the actual person at the contest, before I even gave my speech. And the funny thing is, this person sat down next to me of their own accord, and out of over 100 people in that auditorium he was the one person with connection to VC money, and he just happened to be in the exact same market niche, and to add to it, his office is only a few miles from mine. (also, his company did win the contest, to advance to the finals)
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Awesome Remember a key idea I have about the universe.. "The universe works best slight of hand" (and for some reason I have no idea if slight is a real word or how to spell it ) but I'm guessing people get the idea (context clues and such)
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True enough that what I wanted out of the contest was exposure to receiving venture capital.

*And that is what I got - direct exposure to venture capital*
Ha ha, that is so amusing . . . I've realized that this happens a lot for me. Like, I get specific desires fulfilled- But it seems like along with the specifics there's ongoing deeper learning and growth. If things were too obvious all the time, it wouldn't just be me getting x, y, or z, but me getting x, y, or z AND undeniable evidence that LOA or IM or whatever you want to call it works. I think that while I've been vibrationally ready for many material things and specific situations in my life, I'm much slower at being vibrationally ready for "miracles" or "evidence" in my life, you know? I feel like your sidewinding roundabout story resonates with lots of things I've experienced lately.

It seems like the universe or source or whatever does "know" or "provide" the easiest and most harmonious path . . . I think it's funny because this easy path is also (for me) the least "magical" one- Which means they're always things to which you could say, "That's just a coincidence!" But when you're sitting on top of a week/month/half-year's worth of regular (daily even) "coincidences" (the type that NEVER happened for you before studying these topics) . . . I guess then it's time to move up.

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(also, his company did win the contest, to advance to the finals)
Maybe in a way you did win the contest too, vicariously.

Anyway, congrats!
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It seems like the universe or source or whatever does "know" or "provide" the easiest and most harmonious path . . . I think it's funny because this easy path is also (for me) the least "magical" one-
By *coincidence* today I got another meeting with another group of investors. I had spoken with them before, and the key to this particular meeting was my 'letting go'. I had outlined the general situation, and they had expressed interest, however they did not followup. Instead of perseverating on why, when would they get back, etc. I actually forgot about it. Today I was preparing for Friday's meeting, when they asked me to meet tomorrow. Good, I am attracting and manifesting. I'm working on clarifying my intentions, being open to everything, and attached to nothing, and being a magnetic *allower* and *receiver of abundance*. Sounds real woo woo stuff, but it works.

I was just telling my wife how Marc Cuban had a zero revenue company called Broadcast.com, and parlayed it into becoming a multi-billionaire and owner of the Dallas Mavericks NBA basketball team. He sold the company to Yahoo! for several hundred million dollars in stock, then he purchased a "straddle" which are put and call options on either side of the stock. When Yahoo! crashed during the dot.com bust, his options went to the billions. That is abundance and allowing - from essentially nothing but some web pages. It takes some serious LOA and allowing to receive several hundred million in exchange for ....... nothing.
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Admittedly, it was not as smooth as I wanted, since I'm not entirely comfortable with public speaking.
Jacare, what if there's a deep rooted thinking of "lack", as this statement intends to say...? Your belief of not being entirely comfortable with publicly speaking might have led you to somehow manifest the current result?
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Jacare, what if there's a deep rooted thinking of "lack", as this statement intends to say...? Your belief of not being entirely comfortable with publicly speaking might have led you to somehow manifest the current result?
I am constantly clearing on my feelings of lack, because I've not accumulated the amount of money that I want yet. Most of the people who gave their company pitches were very nervous. I think that is more a factor of inexperience with public speaking. I would think that if I spoke in public every day, in a short period I would be skilled and free of most, if not all, nervousness.

It takes a certain degree of mastery to overcome feelings of lack when the bills are very tangible. Particularly with a business, where there are costs associated that need to be offset by sales on a recurring basis.
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