Are There Limits To What We Can Manifest?

[jackfrost]

Ok, im wondering can we really manifest anything? I have read post here about people saying if it's not for your own good you cannot do it no matter how much you visualize etc. But I thought the LOA could work for anything? Im confused now, I thought if you truely believed you could do anything then you could. So whats the right answer? Most of the books I read say if you have 100% total faith then you can do it.

[Anagogy]

Originally Posted by jackfrost

Ok, im wondering can we really manifest anything? I have read post here about people saying if it's not for your own good you cannot do it no matter how much you visualize etc. But I thought the LOA could work for anything? Im confused now, I thought if you truely believed you could do anything then you could. So whats the right answer? Most of the books I read say if you have 100% total faith then you can do it.

Part of the problem is, you have to take into consideration logical constraints. For example.............you can't have it be day AND night at the same time, in the same place. That is a logical absurdity.

So if you manifest blue but you also want to manifest yellow, sometimes your manifestations will mix together and form green, which is not what you intended but is what you got.

So, practically speaking, you cannot get EVERYTHING with the law of attraction. This is a consensus reality, and the REALLY big things are a result of the collective mind, or so, that is my perspective. However, having said that, PERSONALLY you can vibrationally attract any experience you desire. Just don't expect that experience to necessarily be shared by the rest of the world, because that is a bigger boat of experience, and you don't control anyone unless you ARE them, which would be a collective consciousness.

[themaster]

Surprisingly I don't agree with anagogy.. his is a statement of limitation when you say.. "anything is not possible.. cause there are rules"

This is the information I have acquired there are rules and agreements as anagogy states for this reality.. however if we want something we can change all the rules and agreements for the reality we want specifically we can vibrate to the reality where we have changed rules and agreements..

I suspect you could do this as well.. "change to a reality that has no rules and agreements and has no other selves to act as reflections"

I have read post here about people saying if it's not for your own good you cannot do it no matter how much you visualize etc.

This is a load of crap from my perspective.. but if you fear a negative thing such a rape or earthquake.. if you sit there and think about these things constantly.. they will come.. there is no universal rule that says it won't.. you get what you think about be it negative or positive.. it's on its way when activated by focus..

But I thought the LOA could work for anything?

I believe that anything is possible yes.. one of the reason I have/need to believe this.. is what I want to create is in uncharted territory of our illusion of history.. while we all have the "idea" there is no record of anyone having done it here.. that makes you then like a scientist having to pull electricity from nothing or a warp drive from a theory

[themaster]

Originally Posted by jackfrost

I have read post here about people saying if it's not for your own good you cannot do it no matter how much you visualize etc

I want to expand on this point.. this is not a bad way to go in thinking.. but why I pointed it out as a lie is cause it is.. but there is a good way to see this lie.. then like hypnosis's same rule you can't allow yourself to be hurt..

I guess the point is if this "lie" works for you and you believe it true.. or you just can't see it as a "lie" I can under the idea.. with manifestation/mantra/idea "what I'm creating for me always works out perfectly"

In fact there's another way to interpret this.. and that is nothing bad can ever work out for you.. based on the choice perspective of seeing it good.. if you realize you're in a limitation game of your choosing with people that are just you, engaged in limiting ideas of your allowance and ultimately knowing that you do have control to change the limitation..

I guess I'm going to retract the idea of calling it a "lie" it sounds to dissociative/disconnected/un-integrated and I present to you my ramblings on why

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by jackfrost

Ok, im wondering can we really manifest anything?

You do manifest everything.

However, you cannot consciously, deliberately manifest everything that you consciously, deliberately seek to manifest.

And the simple reason is that you do not have absolute control over your own mind.

You can develop and increase your control over your mind, thereby increasing your ability to consciously, deliberately manifest.

So whats the right answer? Most of the books I read say if you have 100% total faith then you can do it.

Right. So one way to put it would be as follows - if you had absolute control over your own mind, then you could choose to have 100% total faith in anything.

However you do not have absolute control over your own mind.

[jacare]

The limit is in our own minds. What is the difference between us and Donald Trump? Why didn't we go to Harvard Business School? Because it wasn't part of our current belief systems, it wasn't information we had, it wasn't an idea that anybody instilled in us, or a concept that we were exposed to. What we don't know literally fills libraries.

So the work is figure out what we want (or rather, what we think we want) and begin to saturate ourselves with information about that, or get in the vibration of it, if you will. Rather than randomly acting on the information given to us by our immediate family, or the circumstances we were born into, we need to consciously change our focus.

So I believe anything is possible. And anything is easy. But what is not simple is that we need to rid ourselves of toxic and counter productive conditioned responses and thought patterns that we have accumulated since infancy. This allows us to be open to new concepts, which then allow us to take different actions, and make different interpretations, which then allow us to get much different results.

But I think the irony is that most of these wants center around material possessions. Material possessions of themselves are fine, but all we really want are the feelings these things give us. We have the ability to create these feelings. I'm actually not that enlightened yet, but am working towards it.

[themaster]

Originally Posted by jacare

Rather than randomly acting on the information given to us by our immediate family, or the circumstances we were born into, we need to consciously change our focus.

So I believe anything is possible. And anything is easy. But what is not simple is that we need to rid ourselves of toxic and counter productive conditioned responses and thought patterns that we have accumulated since infancy.

Just for clarification... beliefs aren't hammered into us as a infant.. according to my teacher (and it's not hammered either.. it's accepted/allowed) beliefs are "downloaded telepathically from our parents before the age of 3 or 5 due to conditional love"

I was theorizing.. that the reason infants cry is physical is so much different than non-physical.. and such a limiting experience.. it might make sense why we get so upset as we do.. of course what my teacher(s) have to say about this I can't remember

[Anagogy]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

You do manifest everything.

However, you cannot consciously, deliberately manifest everything that you consciously, deliberately seek to manifest.

And the simple reason is that you do not have absolute control over your own mind.

You can develop and increase your control over your mind, thereby increasing your ability to consciously, deliberately manifest.

That's what I was trying to say, but you said it much better, and more to the point.

[Tanemon]

Originally Posted by themaster

however if we want something we can change all the rules and agreements for the reality we want specifically we can vibrate to the reality where we have changed rules and agreements.

I suspect you could do this as well.. "change to a reality that has no rules and agreements and has no other selves to act as reflections"

I believe that anything is possible yes.. one of the reason I have/need to believe this.. is what I want to create is in uncharted territory of our illusion of history.. while we all have the "idea" there is no record of anyone having done it here.. that makes you then like a scientist having to pull electricity from nothing or a warp drive from a theory

Inspiring thoughts. I have a pretty good life, which I could describe but won't (might bore people). Guess you could say I've manifested the stuff of my life. Okay.

That doesn't mean I don't want to get better at manifesting.

In fact, I never used to think about my life with words or concepts like "manifesting". I made some goals, visualized some things. I've worked hard. Had successes and failures, joys and frustrations. Arrived in a good place. (Still feel that "I win some and I lose some".)

You know what would be really inspiring and helpful? It would be if you people posting here who strongly believe in and trust your power of conscious manifestation would describe a little about just how you got better and better at manifesting. Would you write some of that?

[themaster]

Originally Posted by Tanemon

You know what would be really inspiring and helpful? It would be if you people posting here who strongly believe in and trust your power of conscious manifestation would describe a little about just how you got better and better at manifesting. Would you write some of that?

All right.. but I can't say said results are what you could judge as awesome

For understand each person is a individual and what they do with their power is different in all cases..

Here's 2 manifestation examples..

For many years I have used Abraham's "segment intending" which is to recognized a block of time that your in.. and call out what you want (in simplest terms)

Here's my litany mostly activated when I'm driving a car to avoid cops but not always is it for that.. It's always kind of changing too..

"In this segment I intend fast, safe, uninterrupted travel, while activating connections to my inner self/guides, I will reach for the best feeling thought, take the path of least resistance, follow my highest excitement, I ask to maintain superior health and have a beautiful dream both physical and non-physical"

That's about it in a nutshell.. though it's had many re-writes

How does this work as far as manifesting.. let's say anti-cop wise.. generally well.. I've passed some cops speeding before and never been pulled over.. I remember I once had a cop flash his lights (above) but then not leave the side of the road

I have been using that since 2006 or so.. so in all that time I have gotten a few tickets where I haven't used it.. I've started disobeying stop sign laws (a lot) when I was in south dakota I got caught for that once.. (middle of nowhere always obey stop signs.. or not ) other then that I recently got a seat belt ticket this summer.. in either of those cases I had not used the litany before but understand in truth that Abraham says as you use segment intending it begins to build the world the way that you want.. it's not always required to say

If I were to re-write I might be thinking about these key words.. "expand awareness, be playful with creation"

I cannot really recall any data other than that.. sometimes I do use it on a phone call if people are annoying me in my business.. with long drawn out questions I don't care about..

Okay, so on to a story about real manifestation..

This is true happened about 2-3 weeks ago.. I knew when I went travelling that I didn't have a spare.. and I tried to rectify this before going to Bashar conference.. but things just didn't line up that way.. too much ego work not enough business time in the day.. So I took off again on vacation (driving) without a spare (I did drive approximately 10,000 miles on a earlier vacation this year with no spare too)

After my teacher's conference.. I headed to vegas.. but I got tired about 5 a.m. (usually choose to travel at night) I stopped at the side of the road got some sleep.. after about a hour.. I was ready to go.. but I didn't make it more than a mile before my tire blew out..

So here's the truth.. I was 50 miles from vegas on a back road from the middle of nowhere and still technically and I didn't know this till later in arizona.. before I left I was supposed to buy AAA for emergency's but even that I hadn't done..

The good news was it was 6 a.m. and my cell phone had service the second piece of good news.. my cooler was filled with drinks and ice

The bad news.. the sun was rising in a desert I don't have A/C and hate heat..

Due to how stupid it was to break down on the road in the middle of nowhere with no spare.. I had to repeat a couple of times.. my teachers mantra "Situations don't matter, only state of being matters"

So I spent about a hour calling different vegas tow truck company's on vegas.. I calculated exactly how far away I was 50 miles using GPS 20 miles to hoover dam after multiple hours (not everyone was picking up) I got 2 quote's of $250 to tow me out of there.. ($250 offly expensive for 1 tow of no spare tire stupidity )

(there was a lot more problems then this actually.. I travel with a laptop.. but it's battery was nearly dead.. I also travel with a portable power supply for it to work in my car.. but the one I bought was useless and a the list goes on and on like that.. I was using my PocketPC to look at craigslist which is a pain but works )

So I say screw it call AAA and decide to order.. they tell me surprisingly that you can't get 100 mile towing for 1 day.. (which surprised me cause I thought it'd be 3 days) I need 50 miles to get to wal-mart cause weirdly or coincidently the tire that blew is one that I bought at wal-mart and they have a automatic repair/replace policy on it..

They tell me I can get 5 mile towing and then pay per mile.. likely $3-5 per mile.. (still expensive) I decide I'm okay with hanging out in the desert for 24 hours or maybe 18 hours (midnight?) even if I hate heat..

So I decide after getting my AAA number I'm going to sit purposely for 1 hour and not call AAA 800 number to see if they'll come out without costing me anything.. I instead say to the universe/inner self line up a perfect situation where I can make this work and get out of here.. I'll call at exactly 8 or 8:30 a.m. (think it was 8:30 a.m.)

So I call at that chosen time And they explain to me 5-7 mile towing rule.. (called basic.. now that I remember) I ask if there are any other options.. she says ohh yes we can tow you to a AAA garage and they can repair your vehicle there.. I double check there's no mileage? "yep" she says.. okay I say.. send the truck..

That is effectively how I got out of the desert for about $120 for aaa service.. and still got me 3 100 mile tows

There are additional details but truth is I got what I wanted even if there was hassle/annoyance involved (that's later in the story )

[themaster]

I guess I owe you details.. going bullet point though
1. Turns out that there is garage towing but only in the state of california not at any other AAA's this created hassle cause driver wasn't getting paid for mileage to vegas
2. Turns out that even though it's a phone hassle AAA eventually agreed to pay for extra towing charges a arizona company wanted.. and that they told me this had happened only once before..
3. I was supposed to go directly to the AAA garage and then I was going to use taxi to take my car to walmart.. instead I was towed directly to walmart

So if you're looking for how LOA works here

I made request to leave however that could be done > universe lines up exact right timing with exact wrong information person to get me to start the tow > Due to their mistake aaa takes cares of the bill eventually (really in truth that's just my own abundance/creation)

In truth when you examine this with analysis.. you can actually see that the creation was lined up with beliefs and current ideas about reality.. this was not a miraculous manifestation.. it was one that was allowed actually worked within the confines of beliefs (so if you're looking for water to wine.. this is not a manifesting story about that )

You know.. just for the record you don't need us LOA guru's info.. you can just pick up a newspaper.. find the story of how a psychic found a body.. someone was tipped a million dollars or whatever.. those are all LOA's story's too.. looking for miraculous hair growth story?? try google

[Indy107]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

You do manifest everything.

However, you cannot consciously, deliberately manifest everything that you consciously, deliberately seek to manifest.

And the simple reason is that you do not have absolute control over your own mind.

You can develop and increase your control over your mind, thereby increasing your ability to consciously, deliberately manifest.



Right. So one way to put it would be as follows - if you had absolute control over your own mind, then you could choose to have 100% total faith in anything.

However you do not have absolute control over your own mind.

Which, I'm assuming, is why it's better to manifest - unconsciously, or subconsciously.
This takes our "always needs to be in control" conscious mind out of it. ??

[Acting Like Godot]

Well, you do not know what you are manifesting unconsciously. By definition, you cannot know it. Therefore you wouldn't be able to say whether it was better or worse.

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by Tanemon

You know what would be really inspiring and helpful? It would be if you people posting here who strongly believe in and trust your power of conscious manifestation would describe a little about just how you got better and better at manifesting. Would you write some of that?

For me, it was more like many steady little steps, rather than a single big secret.

[RMcIntyre]

I think we are limited only by what we are able to conceive and believe in. Here's a great Abraham quote:

"There is no condition that you cannot modify into something more, any more than there is any painting that you cannot repaint. There are many limiting thoughts in the human environment that can make it seem that these so-called incurable illnesses, or unchangeable conditions cannot not be changed. But we say that they are only "unchangeable" because you believe they are. Someone asked us recently, "Is there any limitation to the body's ability to heal?" And we said, None, other than the belief that you hold. And he asked, "Then why aren't people growing new limbs?" And we said, Because no one believes they can." - Abraham-Hicks

To me, this kind of sums up what can or can't be accomplished. Who really knows just how far we can go with this?

Cheers!

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by RMcIntyre

And he asked, "Then why aren't people growing new limbs?" And we said, Because no one believes they can." - Abraham-Hicks

Actually, the scientists ARE working on this one. For example:

Regrowing Limbs: Can People Regenerate Body Parts?: Scientific American

[Tanemon]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

For me, it was more like many steady little steps, rather than a single big secret.

Well, I anticipated that. But can you describe the little steps?... I'm sure the growth pattern (pattern of actualization in the 3D world) would be clearer to us then.