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Zas · 09-18-2009, 05:12 PM

. . . Well?

aggie · 09-19-2009, 01:23 AM

definitely....faith is capable of producing joy...even in the most horrible situations.

Zas · 09-20-2009, 12:56 AM

I ask because I'm noticing variation in the dialogue I've come across exploring intention manifestation things. It seems that at first I was hearing a lot about the importance of faith and belief- Particularly from resources like "Think and Grow Rich" or "The Science of Getting Rich." Like, success-oriented ones.

Now it seems I'm noticing more mood-focused ones like Abraham Hicks.

For me, a joyful state is significantly easier to reach than one of faith. I'm curious about their relationship. It seems like joy has to do with one's ability to allow and faith has more to do with setting the specifics? But I can see that having faith makes it easier to experience joy. I can see that joy might feed my faith, but it doesn't seem to be working so strongly that way?

Are certainty and expectation actually emotions? People say, "I feel certain," but it seems more like a mind's state?

09-18-2009, 05:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
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09-19-2009, 01:23 AM	#2 (permalink)
aggie Family Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,235	definitely....faith is capable of producing joy...even in the most horrible situations.

09-20-2009, 12:56 AM	#3 (permalink)
Zas Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 295	I ask because I'm noticing variation in the dialogue I've come across exploring intention manifestation things. It seems that at first I was hearing a lot about the importance of faith and belief- Particularly from resources like "Think and Grow Rich" or "The Science of Getting Rich." Like, success-oriented ones. Now it seems I'm noticing more mood-focused ones like Abraham Hicks. For me, a joyful state is significantly easier to reach than one of faith. I'm curious about their relationship. It seems like joy has to do with one's ability to allow and faith has more to do with setting the specifics? But I can see that having faith makes it easier to experience joy. I can see that joy might feed my faith, but it doesn't seem to be working so strongly that way? Are certainty and expectation actually emotions? People say, "I feel certain," but it seems more like a mind's state?

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