I want to see the impossible

[cylon]

Originally Posted by Wax Frog

To reframe a question I've had from the beginning - how does one choose a better-feeling belief that won't feel like delusion or self-deception? My art endeavor is the best avenue I see right now to finding an answer, but I would like to think there are good avenues for establishing completely new, conscious-IM-enabling beliefs.

To paraphrase Abraham "A belief is just a thought you keep thinking".

That's all it is. You think thoughts repeatedly and over the years they form neural nets in your brain, and they become a part of your identity. That's how we get all our beliefs: we practice thinking them, and then our minds change to the point that if we are not thinking those things, we feel "off". If you start feeling good, your mind may freak out and urge you to feel bad again because it doesn't understand what's going on, it's slow to change.

So the way out is to practice thinking the new thoughts. It will feel like delusion for as long as it takes that you start believing it. If you literally train your mind to go to the "good thought" when normally you'd be thinking the "bad thought"... in time the "good thought" will become your default thought/belief.

The period inbetween is cogitive dissonance, where what you are thinking doesn't match what your body is feeling. But in time, it flips, and your mind and body literally become a new person.

Beyond that, I'd get some Abraham books or re-read them if you have them, they give lots of exercises on how to think yourself out of a painful thought. Do it enough, and it starts to die on its own because you're not giving it any more fuel.

[Angela]

Originally Posted by cylon

I had to do this in "real life" with someone who was a close friend for many, many years. We just became different people. I can't save him from him being himself, and he can't stop me from becoming the person I am becoming. It just feels "wrong" to hang out with him, even though I still have good memories and like him as a person, but people change. I've accepted he is who he is, that we don't see the world in the same way, and now it's time to move on. And for me it's had some great benefits. And it was a very difficult decision to make, but now it feels like the natural choice. In that case, I was done "doubting" that I could be a happier person.

That's not what I'd call ignoring, or pushing against something so that it goes away. That's filtering -- which requires acceptance.

Wouldn't that be great if you (one) could do that with people on your *ignore* list? Just accept them and move on -- even see the great benefits of having had them in your life. Then you wouldn't need a list, and you would be free.

Of course, you can't just say, "Okay, I accept that schmuck, and I'm moving on." You have to really get yourself to a state of acceptance, or you will only be deluding yourself that you have moved on -- you'll still be stuck.

[Wax Frog]

"How does one choose a better-feeling belief that won't feel like delusion or self-deception?"

[magic1]

thankyou...and I actually have found that it does......GOD speaks to me through it....Its not a mnifestation of just thinking of it...

I have also learned a valuable lesson...when I came into post yesterday in response to ALG I was getting mad in the car about how he felt he can tell another not to use the word miracle, anyway the car in fron had tags ALG 911...now 911 means to me and always has, TOWERS COMMING DOWN...when I saw that I knew not to post and try to take another down as my own tower will fall...I ignored this and came in here and posted away in EGO, and YES, the bomb went off....I left here, annoyed and off focus...on the way home after thinking about my mistake I ended up behind a car CRE84U...the car behind had TAGS ANGELA! and I reaslied my journey is not about a forum, trying to convince others of the magic available...I need to re focus and cre8 just for me.....

I post here because I experiance such an insane amount of energy, you have a strong desire to be understood...you also want others to know in HOW MUCH YOU CAN RECEIVE...this stuff is not hidden form me...so I spent my time in trying to convince others....I am misunderstood on here, and I realsie I am because MANY of you, are JUST not in the place I am and cannot process how much I get...hence why I feel alone....this is my path and not said with ego but with truth...

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Anyway, I am going to leave these forums, they do not serve me any longer.....however I will leave you will a glorious synchs/message I recevied this am...and i want to share it as its truth for all of us.....

As you all know my intention has been LOTTO! this am I got up and in my car I was sussing in my head what on earth to do with my life...my vibration was, if Im not getting lotto, WHAT ON EARTH DO I DO....

so anyway I worked myself into a frenzy and whatever path in my head came up I would always come back to lotto! THIS IS WHAT I WANT....

In stress I started yelling at the top of my lungs...UNIVERSE I CHOOSE LOTTO!!!!! I CHOOSE IT...THATS IT!...THATS WHAT I WANT AND NOTHING ELSE WILL DO!!!!!!!

well, I do not know if you have seen the thread I started on the moses code....and the saying I AM THAT, I AM

but mid rant to the universe about choosing lotto...screaming at the top of my lungs, I look up and the car in front of me, had painted on the whole back of it.......

I AM THAT, I AM....what are the odds....and the universe beautiful way of saying to me...BE THE LOTTO WINNER


I want to add to that, that this process is hard...this process takes strength of an oak tree...you need to know in every fibre of your being in what you are choosing and BE IT, literally become it, you do not have the luxury of doubt, you cannot say yes then no...and these are not words its truth...these are gods laws

so the closer you get to god in yourself is the closer you get to manifesting MIRACLES.

personally I belive this subjective reality stuff alough a nice way to look at misses and lacks the emotion of the importance of god/universe in creating...the spark to light the fire is just not there....and you will not get there not connected....the connectedness is in your emotion, god is real, and I know as he speaks to me...

So I wish you all the very best to each and every one of you...including the beautiful angela, wax frog, cyclon, di, wordkeeper,

I will say lastly ERIN PAVLINA said to me, calm down it will look like you are dancing and there is no music, well I am dancing in the maginfinace of it....its is mindblowing real, goeorgous, and you all can have ten thousand times more than you are getting....

hugs to everyone....

[Wax Frog]

The ignore list isn't a permanent arrangement for me. I just felt it would be useful during what I would hope is a transitional phase.

Anyway, I am consciously redirecting my thought to creation-creation-creation, just let the content of my soul spill out and see if any living dreams come of it! I know I can get into deep trances when I'm doing the 'art thing', but this time I intend to make that state something of a way of life, rather than just a mode I get into when I'm working on stuff. Doing a little experiment...

[cylon]

Bye magic. But don't feel you have to stay away forever, you don't have to.
But good luck, I'm sure you'll have even better experiences from here on.

[cylon]

Originally Posted by Wax Frog

Anyway, I am consciously redirecting my thougth to creation-creation-creation, just let the content of my soul spill out and see if any living dreams come of it!

Just make sure you get really big buckets to hold it all!

[magic1]

thanks mate...xx

[Angela]

Originally Posted by Wax Frog

"How does one choose a better-feeling belief that won't feel like delusion or self-deception?"

What a great question! That IS big. One way is to move your thinking in small increments, and check at each step to see if you can accept the next increment. If you can't, then go sideways and look for something you can accept. I like how Abraham refers to going upstream or downstream. Does the incremental thought have you feeling like you're paddling to get somewhere, or does it have you feeling like you can just put your paddle down and relax as the current of the thought has you flowing in the direction of your desire, easily and effortlessly?

You don't have to go from Powerlessness to Joy in one step. You can move from a powerless thought to one that has you feeling angry, and that's moving in a downstream direction. Good. Next you can think a thought that has you feeling doubt, and that's downstream, too. You could blame someone! oops, upstream, how about trying one that has you feeling impatient -- downstream! Then maybe a thought that bores you - downstream - leading to a thought that leaves you contented. Maybe you can move from there to hopeful, and then to enthusiastic, downstream downstream, and from there it's a hop skip and a jump to Joy.

At each step, you can reach for a small increment of downstream that you can really believe. If you don't believe it, it'll feel like upstream to you. So just reach sideways for something that you can believe. It's not so difficult once you get into the practice.

Do you believe me, or do you think I'm delusional?

Google "Abraham Emotional Guidance Scale" for more on that, and examples. I've seen videos on youtube where she actually talks out thoughts that move more and more downstream, too.

[Wax Frog]

Of all the streams in my life, the one that has felt smoothest and least effortful is the one my Muse accompanies me down. As I said, this seems the best route at present for personal experimentation.

Though I have no way to prove it, I choose to believe you (and any other 'pure' IM/LoA advocate) are not delusional, in large part because the benefit to me stands to be greater.

[Angela]

Wax, that sounds good. It's a good tool, just not your only one. You have limitless and inspiring inner resources.

Best wishes with your art!

[Angela]

Bye, Angela..... I hope your Lotto dreams come true in a big way!

[YourHumbleNarrator]

Originally Posted by Angela

Bye, Angela..... I hope your Lotto dreams come true in a big way!

Wait, what? But you're not... OHHHH.

[Angela]

Originally Posted by YourHumbleNarrator

Wait, what? But you're not... OHHHH.

oh. you mean the name thing.

[Wax Frog]

One can never have too many Angies!

[intj123]

War, Pets, and Alignment. Abraham-Hicks Law of Attraction

does she look like she even knows what she's talking about? just from reading her body movements I can tell she has no clue how to respond and is trying desperately to think quickly on her feet. The decision to take life is your responsibility and here I see a woman trying to rationalize murderous behavior as peer pressure and it's everyone's fault because everyone co-created it (counter intuitive). Ultimately every individual makes their own choices. Do you people have any bit of critical thinking left in yourselves?

[Wax Frog]

OK Angie, what do I do?

[Angela]

Originally Posted by Wax Frog

OK Angie, what do I do?

You are an EXCELLENT manifestor -- here you have created an instant opportunity to go downstream.

I must say, that is what I'd call a "big" manifestation.

[cylon]

Originally Posted by intj123

War, Pets, and Alignment. Abraham-Hicks Law of Attraction

does she look like she even knows what she's talking about? just from reading her body movements I can tell she has no clue how to respond and is trying desperately to think quickly on her feet. The decision to take life is your responsibility and here I see a woman trying to rationalize murderous behavior as peer pressure and it's everyone's fault because everyone co-created it (counter intuitive). Ultimately every individual makes their own choices. Do you people have any bit of critical thinking left in yourselves?

It's funny... one of the things I admire is how she can talk without skipping a beat and is consistent in her message. That's a part of why I get so much out of her 'readings'.

As far as us having any critical thinking.... who cares? Go live your life. You aren't going to change us.

[intj123]

Originally Posted by cylon

It's funny... one of the things I admire is how she can talk without skipping a beat and is consistent in her message. That's a part of why I get so much out of her 'readings'.

As far as us having any critical thinking.... who cares? Go live your life. You aren't going to change us.

I CARE.

So let me get this straight, if I don't have money it's my own fault for having a scarcity mentality, but if I join the military and kill people it's not my fault and it's all the co-creators faults?

GET REAL.

[YourHumbleNarrator]

Originally Posted by intj123

I CARE.

So let me get this straight, if I don't have money it's my own fault for having a scarcity mentality, but if I join the military and kill people it's not my fault and it's all the co-creators faults?

GET REAL.

So you've made up your mind. Good. Be content with your opinions and move on.

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by Angela

You are an EXCELLENT manifestor -- here you have created an instant opportunity to go downstream.

I must say, that is what I'd call a "big" manifestation.

Am I really that much of a masochist?

[cylon]

Originally Posted by intj123

I CARE.

So let me get this straight, if I don't have money it's my own fault for having a scarcity mentality, but if I join the military and kill people it's not my fault and it's all the co-creators faults?

GET REAL.

You may care, but I'm not putting high odds on you changing anyone's minds with your anger and rage.

If you don't like it, find something you like instead. Read some old threads and you'll see skeptics who have made more convincing arguments than you fall apart and abandon ship. Trying to force someone to see things your way with insults and rage, is really an exercise in futility.

[Angela]

Originally Posted by intj123

War, Pets, and Alignment. Abraham-Hicks Law of Attraction

does she look like she even knows what she's talking about? just from reading her body movements I can tell she has no clue how to respond and is trying desperately to think quickly on her feet. The decision to take life is your responsibility and here I see a woman trying to rationalize murderous behavior as peer pressure and it's everyone's fault because everyone co-created it (counter intuitive). Ultimately every individual makes their own choices. Do you people have any bit of critical thinking left in yourselves?

You are an excellent manifestor, too! You have brought a "confronting" one into your awareness, immediately after you declared you would try moving to a new perspective, try it on, and you can have your old one back. A less bold person might have found an "easy" one, something about how you create your own breakfast. So, I acknowledge you for your boldness!

Are you prepared to do the experiment right now, with this?

Oh, no, I'm sorry, I confused you with vinylfire, I beg your pardon.

But I would invite you to do a similar experiment, if you're feeling up to it.

[Angela]

Originally Posted by Wax Frog

Am I really that much of a masochist?

I think your unconscious mind just has a tremendous sense of humor.

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by Angela

I think your unconscious mind just has a tremendous sense of humor.

Yes it does. Just last night, I made my first batch of pumpkin 'eyes', only to realize they were the wrong size. So, today, without any conscious intent on my part, I declared that I would "take another stab at my eyes".

It's been ages since I took Myers-Briggs, but to the best of my recollection I came up as an INTJ...

[intj123]

Originally Posted by cylon

You may care, but I'm not putting high odds on you changing anyone's minds with your anger and rage.

If you don't like it, find something you like instead. Read some old threads and you'll see skeptics who have made more convincing arguments than you fall apart and abandon ship. Trying to force someone to see things your way with insults and rage, is really an exercise in futility.

As if there is something wrong with feeling anger? what's wrong with it? we need emotions to guide us don't we? to see if we are in "alignment"? or are you going to deny that part of yourself?

And don't ever try to tell me what to do! You want to act like a dictator or what? Am I not free to voice my opinion? What if this IS what I like? then what?

[Ekb]

can it be fools gold?

[cylon]

Originally Posted by intj123

As if there is something wrong with feeling anger? what's wrong with it? we need emotions to guide us don't we? to see if we are in "alignment"? or are you going to deny that part of yourself?

Nothing wrong with anger but if you are intending to persuade anyone you might want to take a look at how you are coming off. Insulting an entire forum and then wondering why they aren't listening to you, shows a lack of awareness of how people communicate and convince.

Get working on those communication skills if you truly want to change other people's minds.

Unless you just want someone to give you permission to make this leap. We're all giving you permission to practice LOA. But you have to decide for yourself if you're going to give yourself permission.

You are most definitely out of alignment. But nothing is permanent.

This is where we part ways. Have fun with your arguments.

[Angela]

Originally Posted by intj123

As if there is something wrong with feeling anger? what's wrong with it?

There's nothing wrong with it, but does it feel good? It feels better than powerlessness, I think, but not as good as contentment, to me, anyway. When you stay in anger, or other not so good feelings, you are attracting more not so good feelings, which keeps the good feeling stuff away. So, if you're looking to manifest something really amazingly great, you'll want to deliberately get your feelings move in the feel-good direction.

Otherwise, you might get your manifestation in a way that doesn't feel so good. Someone might bonk you over the head with a big gold ball, or something.

What I'm saying, and I think most here would agree, is that it's all about how you feel. If you feel angry watching that video, go watch this one instead. Or just think thoughts about what you can believe is true about what you want moving towards you. Like, "it's possible that something really amazing will show up soon. It could happen. Maybe it won't be a giant gold ball, but I think it's possible that something really delightful and hugely surprising could happen, and I can just go ahead and try on expecting it. I'm not insane to do that, it just feels good to expect good things."

And if something feels really awful, like listening to nincompoops talking about crapola, don't do it! The kitten choice is better.