I want to see the impossible

[garentee]

I have been reading this thread with great interest. I have to say that you have manifested a one ton ball of gold only it is not physically apparent. Everything that has been written in this thread is really full of a lot of wisdom. I especially like the full explanations that ALG has been giving on the sate of mind and how that reflects on your reality. What is in those words is golden advice that can help us with dealing with the thought processes in our heads.

[Acting Like Godot]

Oh, here is another free thing I manifested. I wrote about it in July.

[intj123]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

What would you like to see? My name card? My latest payslip? My profile on Linkedin? A photo of myself at my office? My office telephone number?

Well, assume that I showed you all these things. And then .... you will say, "I can't exactly just take your word for it. You could have faked all these."

Right? That is why I say - you have to make your miracles. Only you can convince yourself.

Well actually those things would help clarify if you are telling the truth. It's harder to fake those things than a simple document.

You are right, making my own "miracle" would be the best thing to make the change in my mind, but like I said, it just didn't happen yet, and if it does I'll be sure to let you know.

[intj123]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

Oh, here is another free thing I manifested. I wrote about it in July.

Just wondering but why are you so vague about everything you post? You don't even mention the title of your book or the organization in the UK you mention. Maybe that's why I don't really take everything at face value with you because you just tell a story with no details.

So can I get the title of this book that you forgot to mention the name of? You just say in that thread that you have a different thread about it, I hope you don't expect me to know where to look? Even if I use the search function to look up anything about your threads 350 pages come up with like 20 threads each so I hope you understand when I say I'm not going to spend my time reading through years of your postings to find one little detail.

I hope you don't try to avoid telling me the name of this book either because who knows maybe it's good to advertise it here as there seems to be a lot of people reading this and they might even buy your book.

[Parthon]

Originally Posted by intj123

Okay let's get this straight, I don't claim that it doesn't exist, I don't claim it exists either. I want to see or experience something that does prove it exists though, that would be nice, take a look at my very first post. But if I never see or experience something that does prove it exists, then either I really suck at it, or I'm too stupid to see it, or it doesn't exist. I'll really have to wait till the moment I die to say it doesn't exist, I'll really know by then, but I'd rather see some proof and know right now that it does exist.

In the end, it all comes down to what you believe deep down. It doesn't matter what you claim or say, it matters what you believe.

Most people say seeing is believing, but if LoA is real, then believing is seeing. To bring about a manifestation, it's not just simply a case of willing it into existance, but in shifting all your beliefs in the direction of it already having happened. This include removing all those hidden beliefs that are skeptical about it even happening.

Humans in general can't do this. They aren't skilled at putting aside all their beliefs and predjudices and creating something new from a clean slate. It's just not done. But that's what needs to happen to cause a fundamental manifestation. Of course, once you've shifted you beliefs in that direction, the manifestation isn't needed for proof, because you already believe.

I'm not trying to convince you one way or the other, just describing the nature of attraction. Two results: Law of Attraction is a bunch of new age bollocks and can safely be ignored. Or: It's working all the time on everything at all points and there's not much you can do about it, so it can safely be ignored.

If I was in your shoes right now, I'd see if I could convince some large mining company to make such a giant ball of gold temporarily as a publicity stunt to get themselves into the guiness book of records. That's taking a very proactive role in manifestation.

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by intj123

Just wondering but why are you so vague about everything you post? You don't even mention the title of your book or the organization in the UK you mention. Maybe that's why I don't really take everything at face value with you because you just tell a story with no details.

Well, I like to preserve my privacy. In real life, my wife and I similarly don't go around telling just anyone and everyone that we use the LOA. Many people would consider us insane, and that would be inconvenient for us.

As I mentioned, I don't need you to believe me. You don't offer any kind of validation that I require, you see.

I want to tell you something else. Today I'm on holiday with my wife and kids at a hotel called Angsana Resort on the tropical island of Bintan, somewhere in Indonesia. I'm typing from a computer terminal in the hotel lobby. We just reached here today - my wife had arranged the trip, so I assumed that we had paid for everything.

Uhhh, no. My wife just told me that actually, our accommodation is free. And we're going to be staying in a suite with a sea view. She's manifested this one.

All we have to do is agree to sit through a two-hour presentation whereby someone is going to talk to us about the merits of investing in land on this island. We have no commitment to buy. All we just have to sit through the 2-hour presentation tomorrow, and our hotel accommodation is free for today, tomorrow and the day after.

So that's another example of free things that keep coming our way.

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I hope I am not coming across as boastful. If you want to know what the LOA is all about, it is best that you experiment with it for yourself. It is very versatile and flexible; choose your own kind of intentions and construct your own reality.

If you cannot accept, at this point, the "magical" or "paranormal" aspects of the LOA, then my suggestion is that you take it, at this stage, as a challenge in improving your own attitudes in life; in cultivating desirable habits in yourself; in getting rid of negative habits, and so on.

[moonrambler]

Originally Posted by intj123

Wow I'm totally convinced now, LOA must be true! SARCASM!

First one is not even made of gold, second one is not even a ball.

Wouldn't it be cool not to be that rigid in your thinking?

Really, if you found out today that you had won that VW, wouldn't that knock your socks off? You wouldn't think that was pretty darned close to a 1-ton ball of gold?

[danman85]

Some of us consider the things we think of in our imagination as a possibility of reality, and some of us consider what we see or sense before us as the only reality. The slight difference of belief between the two is where the rub comes in, I don't think anyone's opinion can be changed by way of a forum without direct experience.

But as far as manifesting a huge ball of gold, that's intj's job, and for noone else, I know I would rather manifest that for myself rather than for you. But I know that I CAN'T MANIFEST A ONE-TON BALL OF GOLD, let alone a simple gold coin for that matter, so I can't prove IM in that way. I know that everyone wants to keep the possibility open, and that's what IM is all about, but I know for a fact that I can't do that, at least not right now. Intj, you win (Against me at least) with that structure in mind. As far as the rest of IM goes for me, I do a pretty good job with manifesting situations that are better and more adventageous for me to be in, but it's slow and over time, and there's always some physical trail of events that occurs with it as well. So for those of us who think of the imaginary and what we can think of as real (which I am), then it's our selves, our minds which is causing things to happen. To the realist, its the physical events we can sense that is the only reality to depend on.

Developing a belief in IM requires a much smaller start than a one-ton ball of gold, and say if someone even gets enough manifesting power to do something like that, the desire for the ball may or may not change, and it may not even be needed to prove IM anymore...

[Holistic Star]

Thread temporarily closed

[Lil Chris]

Thread has reopened. Let's play nice...

[amj]

Originally Posted by intj123

I'm dissapointed in the responses here, especially that one with a picture of a ball of gold. I'd expect that kind of reaction from a smart ass skeptic. Well then if someone doesn't even have a convincing story then I have to assume that most of you are not masters of manifestation.

And I see stories about manifesting cats and brownies, come now, I don't even need IM to get those things, show me something really convincing.

With all due respect I think I can do better than most of you in explaining how manifestation works. Like I said, I KNOW it works, to a certain degree, but I want to see that ultra macro magic level that many claim they can do. I partly don't believe we can do it on such a massive scale individually because we are CO-CREATORS. We have to share space at least in the 3rd dimension.

I know exactly how you feel. I think I'm like you in some ways. I don't like beating around the bush and I like when people are upfront with me. The people on here can't help you because they don't know how to help you. I don't who could help you. Maybe Steve? I don't know. But if you find the answer to your original question I would like to know what it is.

[Acting Like Godot]

I see that this thread was temporarily closed, while I was on holiday.

Anyway, while I was on holiday, I learned about a chap who found 17 tons of gold and silver, all of which was just more or less lying there in the middle of nowhere. And the chap has claimed all the gold and silver for himself (or for his company).

True story, it happened just like two years ago.

Anyone want to know the details? I can provide quite authoritative sources on this story. No breach of privacy here, the chap does want to sell some of that gold and silver.

[Wax Frog]

Ah, but was the lode at least roughly spherical?

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by Wax Frog

Ah, but was the lode at least roughly spherical?

Nope. There are three big balls involved in the story (if I recall the details correctly), each larger than a man's head. They are not made of gold though. Do you think it still counts?

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

Nope. There are three big balls involved in the story (if I recall the details correctly), each larger than a man's head. They are not made of gold though. Do you think it still counts?

Having managed what seems to me a partly 'garbled' manifestation, I'm very open to it

[Acting Like Godot]

Oh very well.



The man's name is Greg Stemm. His company is Odyssey Marine Exploration. In 2007, he found an old shipwreck (estimated to be 400 years old) and recovered 17 tons of gold and silver coins from it (plus other artifacts). Footage of the seabed also revealed 3 large cannonballs that had sunk the ship. It's believed that the ship hads been sunk by a cannonball attack.

Saw this on Discovery Channel, in my hotel room, a few hours after my Monday post in this thread.

Guess that's about as close as the universe will go, as far as delivering a 1-ton ball of gold into my reality is concerned.

[cylon]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

I see that this thread was temporarily closed, while I was on holiday.

That's what happens in threads like these. You missed a few posts that have since been.... as they say, "deleted". Including a few of mine .

This story is the same as all the others, as I knew it would be. "Garbage, all of it": you have a new sibling. Skeptics with a positive attitude--we await with bated breath. There is a first time for everything.

But I'm not surprised that you found out about the people who manifested large quantities of gold. I expected someone would attract that info.

If you're thinking about tons of gold, you'll find it, somewhere. That's enough for me.

[Acting Like Godot]

I saw none of those posts, as I was on holiday, with limited Internet access. I've only just noticed that Intj123 has been banned, so I can guess that he was, errrrr, not being very polite.

Intj123, just in case you're still reading, I would like to leave you with a few final remarks. Consider the fact that:

(1) the way you usually think must be a process that is capable of improvement (same goes for everyone else)

(2) you must surely stand to gain, if you do improve your thinking process.

Experiment with the LOA from that angle. In whatever way that currently seems feasible to you, improve the way you think.

It could be your personal attitude towards your career; or the way you regard your friends; or the extent to which you are able to concentrate on anything; or the manner by which you notice business opportunities; or the self-image you have about yourself.

Work on improving those, and as you improve, build on those improvements and improve even more. New possibilities will open themselves up to you, as you progress.

You may never be able to manifest a 1-ton ball of gold, but you can go very far in improving the things that really matter in your life.

[TheColonel]

I've noticed an interesting trend over the past 3 years.

Every so often, an LOA skeptic appears on this forum with a "prove it to me" type thread or series of posts.

And the regulars on here are so nice and accomodating, they do their level best to help the skeptic find perspective and understanding. This tends to unfold for a few days or weeks, as the skeptic becomes more resolute and dismissive (or insulting), and the regulars get frustrated and/or lose patience.

I've got to hand it to several posters though, you really kept your frames strong and refused to take the bait. That's a major difference between this forum and some other ones I've been to.

Whenever I see threads like this, I picture the OP with arms folded looking down as if to say 'you owe me proof, or I will ridicule your beliefs.'

Of course what usually follows is a veiled ridiculing of everyone's beliefs (or their attempts to explain their beliefs).

I'm with Steve on this one - close mindedness is a nearly incurable disease

[gigij]

Originally Posted by TheColonel

Whenever I see threads like this, I picture the OP with arms folded looking down as if to say 'you owe me proof, or I will ridicule your beliefs.'

Of course what usually follows is a veiled ridiculing of everyone's beliefs (or their attempts to explain their beliefs).

I'm with Steve on this one - close mindedness is a nearly incurable disease

Try living with it day in and day out - with the people you actually live with - it's exhausting.

[TheColonel]

In any situation, you have 3 options:

1 Accept it
2 Change it
3 Leave it

Most people exhaust those options precisely in that order.

I was married to a closed minded woman, and as I moved through the options above, I learned that I was not responsible for any of the thoughts or emotions that went through her head.

Since that learning, I no longer feel responsibilty to persuade, convince or evangelize my beliefs to anyone - especially not anonymous skeptics on a chat forum.

But to those of you who do - more power to you.

[cylon]

Originally Posted by TheColonel

I no longer feel responsibilty to persuade, convince or evangelize my beliefs to anyone - especially not anonymous skeptics on a chat forum.

I'd like to be consistent with this attitude. I like debating... I guess it really depends on the person you're discussing things with. But I do allow myself to get drawn into pointless conversations at times.

[gigij]

Originally Posted by TheColonel

In any situation, you have 3 options:

1 Accept it
2 Change it
3 Leave it

I'm currently working through the above options - but it is a struggle some times.

[Zas]

I'm "sad" this person got banned. I don't really feel a drive to debate anymore. I try to not even say anything resistant. It's funner to try and find how to flow with someone . . . In particular if it seems on the surface there's a lot more working against a good connection?

[magic1]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

Oh very well.



The man's name is Greg Stemm. His company is Odyssey Marine Exploration. In 2007, he found an old shipwreck (estimated to be 400 years old) and recovered 17 tons of gold and silver coins from it (plus other artifacts). Footage of the seabed also revealed 3 large cannonballs that had sunk the ship. It's believed that the ship hads been sunk by a cannonball attack.

Saw this on Discovery Channel, in my hotel room, a few hours after my Monday post in this thread.

Guess that's about as close as the universe will go, as far as delivering a 1-ton ball of gold into my reality is concerned.

dosnt surprise me, I have been getting the word ODDESSY in syncs! didn't know why???????? think I do now...

[moonrambler]

I know the OP would say this doesn't count, but I see how these sorts of threads stir up my sync level. Around here they just started some scratch-off lottery tickets which are themed for the pro football team, so some are green and some are gold. A friend and I went out to dinner last weekend and he bought a couple of these tickets, a green one for him (because he particularly likes green) and a gold one for me. I won $50 That is the most I've ever gotten from a lottery ticket.

So the next day he bought me another gold one, and I won $10. A few days later he bought me another gold one, and I again won $10.

I haven't seen the 1-ton gold ball yet, but I got $70 from gold football lottery tickets

[Angela]

Congratulations, moonrambler! Now you can afford to take me out for lunch when you come on your free trip to Santa Monica!

[Acting Like Godot]

Hey, I just got another gold synchronicity.

I just met my parents (I meet them once a week on Saturday mornings, for exercise + breakfast) and my parents told me that the international price of gold has been shooting up a lot.

My mum just sold some gold jewellery (she says she hardly wears them anymore anyway) at a pawnshop for $1,500. My dad also sold off a gold coin (his company had given it to him as a momento, when he retired years ago) for $3,500.

I have a gold chain which I hardly ever wear. I wonder how much I would get for selling it.

[moonrambler]

I like it that they got over the number equivalent of 2 tons!

My buddy who bought me the lottery tickets hadn't won anything with the two green ones he bought, so just now he e-mailed and said he bought a gold one. And he won $50. And he sent me the picture to prove it

[magic1]

Originally Posted by magic1

dosnt surprise me, I have been getting the word ODDESSY in syncs! didn't know why???????? think I do now...

had to post this as AMAZING SYNCH for me...


a few post back ALG, posted about the ship Oydessy and Bullion....on the digging of the seed thread I post all the time on getting the wrod ARK in a synchs/messages...... I have been getting this word in miraculous ways, for some time, and it has been shown to me that the ark holds truth...and I get delivered truth...

well when ALG posted this thing on the odyessy, coincidently I had been already getting the word odyessy, so for him to mention the word in relation to BULLION, another word I get, was a synch.....as am manifesting BULLION...

well the ROYAL crest on this treasure ship is of KING GEORGE, it is found on one of the ships pricless cannons....

and the significance of this to me and..is that I have posted millions of time on here, there is this cafe in my city called the ark, and everytime I drive past or go in I get a million synchs/messages!!!! its all on digging of the seed thread....

well I have just seen that the ARK cafe in auckland is on KING GEORGE ST