Isn't Intention-Manifestation another way of saying if you work hard for something -

[Foggy]

you'll obtain it. I mean, how many of you who practice LoA actually believe that you're sending and receiving energy from the universe? I suppose this is possible, but it seems to me to be a bit far stretched for my objective reality based perception. I think a lot of LoA advice is good if utilized the right way because it encourages people to really connect with their goals. However, why create a bunch of new-age mumbo-jumbo for a pretty simple reality which is that if you really connect with a goal and work hard/smart for it, chances are you will reach it if it's possible.

[KazeCraven]

Mumbo jumbo is more fun.

Plus, some people get much much better results working with subjective reality. How many people do you know that really want something, the answer is right in their faces, and yet they still whine and complain? With LOA, the person will tell himself that he is wanting it and obtaining it so much that he almost automatically gets what he wants.

It's really a gateway to solution-based thinking if used properly.

[StacyT]

Originally Posted by Foggy

I mean, how many of you who practice LoA actually believe that you're sending and receiving energy from the universe?

I fully believe this and have experienced it.

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by Foggy

I suppose this is possible, but it seems to me to be a bit far stretched for my objective reality based perception.

But you aren't being objective. You only think you are.

Here's a simple exercise to help you be more objective. If you really do it, as opposed to just read it on your computer screen, then you will more fully grasp what I mean:

1. Hold a cup of coffee in your hand. See it. Smell it. Feel the warmth.

2. Next tell yourself: "For the next few minutes, I will be extremely scientific.

3. Next tell yourself: "According to science, this cup is not really here. It is mostly empty space, with a few subatomic particles rapidly blinking in and out. That is the ... deepest ... truest ... reality that science tells me about this cup."

3. Next tell yourself: ""According to science, this brown coffee is not really here. It is mostly empty space, with a few subatomic particles rapidly blinking in and out. That is the ... deepest ... truest ... reality that science tells me about this coffee."

4. Next look at your own hand. Then tell yourself: "Next tell yourself: "According to science, this hand of mine is not really here. It is mostly empty space, with a few subatomic particles rapidly blinking in and out. That is the ... deepest ... truest ... reality that science tells me about this hand of mine."

5. Next tell yourself: "According to science ... my hand, this cup and this coffee are mostly empty space, with a few subatomic particles rapidly blinking in and out of existence. My hand, this cup and this coffee are made of exactly the same thing."

Do that a couple of times, and you may be prepared for the next step in understanding your own mind and reality.

No, Foggy. You have not been objective at all.

[Tanemon]

Well, it is the physical universe we are experiencing here - even if we also have experience of other (psychic & spiritual) dimensions. Good things can happen through synchronicities, granted. Yet in addition to working with the LOA, bringing things to a high state of realization generally seems to require much work and even toughness, besides the ongoing faith and persistence.

Synchronicities at the start of something are wonderful, as they are encouraging. but achievement or full flowering of something (a project, for example, or a job or career) is often not simply a matter of 'chilling out' after that beginning point. Maybe not for every goal, but the achievement of many goals does require hard work.

Let's think for a moment about Barack Obama. At some point in time, he became interested in public service - along the lines of his own values and political beliefs. He entered politics, and at some point he aspired to run for president. Of course, he had a good many of the appropriate attributes (as a high-level public servant and politician), and the times were right for someone like him to have a decent chance at getting the nomination and then winning the presidential race.

And he did that that.

I would imagine the story involved a good many supportive synchronicities, yet from what he has said and written his life was not always easy. Besides having to focus and work hard in university, more recently, in the last few years of Obama's ascendance in the national political sphere, I'd guess the road was really challenging or even difficult.

[gigij]

Originally Posted by Foggy

I mean, how many of you who practice LoA actually believe that you're sending and receiving energy from the universe?

Ummm - I believe it.

You don't? Thats odd ....

[Angela]

Originally Posted by Foggy

I mean, how many of you who practice LoA actually believe that you're sending and receiving energy from the universe? I suppose this is possible, but it seems to me to be a bit far stretched for my objective reality based perception.

When someone gets hit by lightning, isn't he receiving energy from the universe? Is it difficult to see who his conscious and unconscious choices (the energy he puts forth) led him to that exact spot at that exact moment?

When you smile (emit energy) and someone smiles back (emits energy back to you), is that a bit far stretched for your objective reality based perception?

Is it "hard work" to get hit by lightning or to share good vibes with someone? The results of these two "easy" vibrations can often get pretty remarkable and dramatic results.

[moonrambler]

Originally Posted by Foggy

However, why create a bunch of new-age mumbo-jumbo for a pretty simple reality which is that if you really connect with a goal and work hard/smart for it, chances are you will reach it if it's possible.

What about the goals/desires a person has that he apparently has no direct control over? He puts out an intention, maybe thinking "I sure wish this would happen," and then it just happens.

When I first started college, I applied for a single room at the dorm. I knew it was unlikely I'd get one, though I wanted it really bad. I prayed about it, saying I really wanted a single room, but if it would be better for me to have a double, that was ok too.

I got assigned a roommate and we got in touch, and she was a junior. She said she'd applied for a single room and decided if she didn't get it, she was moving off-campus.

So when I got to school, I had a single room. And the university had a policy that if you got a single room by default, you could keep it if you were willing to kick out the extra money for it.

The LOA and IM explains this sort of thing a lot better than working hard for a goal does.