IM to heal an injury...but how?

[taktics]

So basically I tried to ask this in the health section but i only got 3-4 replies which pretty much lead to an "unfortunately, surgery is the only way"

What im asking is How can I heal an injury i have, specifically my shoulder, If i accidently put it the wrong way or try to throw a football really hard then it will pop out then pop back in,.. it gets painful and irritating.

I want to know maybe some meditations or practices to heal the ligaments,tendons, cartlage, rotator cuff muscle, whatever and all that needs to be healed and to strengthen it so it won't happen again.

I will supplement this training with physical training of the shoulder also some multi-vitamins and glucosamine/chondrotain supplements that are said to rebuild cartlage.

I just want to hear of stories of people healing themselves of specific injuries like this and how you did it and maybe ideas of what I can do.

I mean I hear stories of people curing themselves of cancer so I am sure that healing a shoulder is not too obsurd.

Thanks you for reading my post =D any help is much appreciated

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by taktics

I mean I hear stories of people curing themselves of cancer so I am sure that healing a shoulder is not too obsurd.

No, it's not.

Harvard Gazette: Hypnosis helps healing

[dyakub]

Im not exactly sure how to use IM to heal injuries but I normally use psychic healing which proves to be most effective. I broke my femur 2 months ago from a crash in which i'm still recovering now. I've been using psychic healing to heal it (after the surgery). They had put a rod straight alongside the bone which was broken. The leg couldnt possibly move without the surgery. Ever since the surgery, psychic healing and EFT seemed to heal it quite fast.
My suggestion is that you try simple EFT (Emotional Freedom Techniques) in order to heal the muscles within the shoulder.

[Inspirations]

Originally Posted by taktics

So basically I tried to ask this in the health section but i only got 3-4 replies which pretty much lead to an "unfortunately, surgery is the only way"

What im asking is How can I heal an injury i have, specifically my shoulder, If i accidently put it the wrong way or try to throw a football really hard then it will pop out then pop back in,.. it gets painful and irritating.

I want to know maybe some meditations or practices to heal the ligaments,tendons, cartlage, rotator cuff muscle, whatever and all that needs to be healed and to strengthen it so it won't happen again.

I will supplement this training with physical training of the shoulder also some multi-vitamins and glucosamine/chondrotain supplements that are said to rebuild cartlage.

I just want to hear of stories of people healing themselves of specific injuries like this and how you did it and maybe ideas of what I can do.

I mean I hear stories of people curing themselves of cancer so I am sure that healing a shoulder is not too obsurd.

Thanks you for reading my post =D any help is much appreciated

Hi taktics,

I always find health to be a fascinating topic, probably because people are not buried in the emotions - obviously as their body is feeling the emotions for them...

Question....If you think of your shoulder right now, what is the first thought or emotion or physical feeling that comes to mind?

You will find that it matches your life circumstances. Shoulders are usually about carrying a burden, or life being too hard....but you don't want to think about that, so your shoulder does it for you..

Health is about 'taking care of yourself'...and you mention that you throw a football with your injured shoulder, and then wonder why it becomes irritated and sore...

If this activity is not an essential one, then I wonder why you would even imagine doing something to re-injure a body part while it is trying to heal? Or don't you have any care or respect for your physical body?

See how it works?

Your shoulder gives you the opportunity to change your whole life, as the means of resolving your shoulder, should you wish to do so...or you could just stay with band-aids...and quick fixes...

on a metaphysical standpoint, you could address the specific reason for your shoulder, but would you want to resolve a single aspect, and keep the issues of other topics - which may show up in other health issues anyway, as that seems to be your life topic..

btw..My son had the same injury, and the physio said he wouldn't touch him before surgery because beside his rotor cuff and impingement issues, his clavicle was dislocating continually - you could see it sticking up - ewwww...lol..He has a disability so surgery was not an option..

My son holds his own beliefs, so I do not push mine on him, although as his mother who has his trust, and having worked in physio for many years, I got the detailed info needed, and worked on him each day for several weeks. his shoulder is now solid, non-painful, and he is doing well...

[taktics]

Originally Posted by Inspirations

Hi taktics,



Health is about 'taking care of yourself'...and you mention that you throw a football with your injured shoulder, and then wonder why it becomes irritated and sore...

If this activity is not an essential one, then I wonder why you would even imagine doing something to re-injure a body part while it is trying to heal? Or don't you have any care or respect for your physical body?

See how it works?

Maybe I need to give more of an explanation before I go around looking like a fool that would purposefully re injure a part i already know is bad.

1. the football throwing motion is just an example of the position and the force needed for it to pop out. I found that out after I felt like my shoulder was completely healed when playing football one day, and it popped out again, it wasnt like i injured it and then the next day i went to play football knowing it was just injured. seems kinda stupid to me.

2. Of course I have care and respect for my physical body, I've been trying to get my shoulder to the point where It i fully healed and I get to a point where it feels 100 percent only to be popped out again by something random, for instance if i moved it the wrong way too fast. If I didn't care, whats the point of creating the thread?

understand?

although thank you for your insight, very helpful.

Im glad that your son is okay and doing well.

anybody else have any ideas, stories, etc/?

[Angela]

I think the key to using the mind/body connection (and what Inspirations was saying -- and please pardon me if I'm misreading, Inspirations) is listening generously to the message that the Angel of Pain is trying to get through to you.

Until you get the message, it would be malpractice for the Angel Of Pain to leave you alone; until you listen and really get it, she'll hang around, producing more and more dire consequences to get your attention.

Do you know that old joke: "Doctor, doctor, every time I drink coffee I get a stabbing pain in my eye!" "Well, take the spoon out."

It seems, from your reply to Inspirations, that you're not quite hearing the message yet, although you are perking up, beginning to listen. I don't know what your lesson is, but you did give what sound like clues:

-- you thought your shoulder was completely healed, and yet it popped out again.

-- you get to "the point where It is fully healed and I get to a point where it feels 100 percent only to be popped out again by something random, for instance if i moved it the wrong way too fast."

What I hear in that is that your unconscious mind is trying to get more in rapport with your conscious mind, to get you more in communication and aware of what "fully, completely, 100% healed" means, so that you are a genius at operating your body, resting and taking proper actions, and taking care to move with fluidity and deliberateness -- even after you've really healed all the way. (I highly recommend the Alexander Technique for that, by the way.)

Of course you wouldn't be so stupid as to consciously do the actions that you know will re-injure you; but as you are looking at I/M, you're aware, aren't you, that there are some things that are going on beneath your normal level of consciousness -- beliefs, attitudes, thoughts and behaviors that keep your pain in place, contrary to your conscious desire to be free of it.

Inspirations was pointing out a rather classic archetypal symbolism that occurs in mind/body awareness, something that Louise Hay's "Heal Your Life" books spell out very well. We have these tribal symbols that live within us that are great places to start when you're looking for a solution to getting your unconscious and conscious mind in rapport. Kind of like how there are dream dictionaries, you know? The symbolism of your unconscious mind has personal representations, and it also has a kind of group gestalt, too -- it's just a place to enter into a deeper understanding of your mind/body connection.

And isn't that the point of your thread?

[Tanemon]

Several of us here at the Pavlina P.D. forums are trying to get some good, well-experienced and informed dialogue going about physical healing by means that could be described as intentional, energetic, spiritual.

We have made a start on several threads that were either started in the Psychic & Paranormal forum or were moved there by the moderator of another forum on which the thread was started. Look for these threads on page one of the Psychic & Paranormal forum.

What you're asking about is, in a way, a big complex subject. But in another way, some methods or energies or tools are pretty accessible.

I've also invited three people I know from another forum system to come onto the Pavlina forums and participate with us. I can't guarantee that they will, but they are very experienced and knowedgeable - so I hope they do.

[mej023]

You should try EFT. It is "very" easy to believe in.

And.... IT WORKS!

That's the secret right there. You already know it's possible.

Don't freak yourself out though!

[taktics]

I think i see what inspirations and angela is saying..

I keep going through a cycle of heal / injure / heal / injure, although I feel things are completely healed they are really not. My body is telling me that I must Heal the shoulder by making my whole body stronger.. not just the shoulder. In a way its almost like a bad relationship that keeps going through break ups and make ups on and on, but the only way it will work out is if the WHOLE Relationship is fixed and brought to a new stronger level.

Is all clear.. but im still seeking of ways that can help me heal my shoulder.
I looked up EFT and will read and give it a try.

also tanemon sorry
I searched but couldn't find any good answers so I thought i start a thread more specific to my problem. sorry if i posted in the wrong section.

[Inspirations]

Originally Posted by taktics

I think i see what inspirations and angela is saying..

I keep going through a cycle of heal / injure / heal / injure, although I feel things are completely healed they are really not. My body is telling me that I must Heal the shoulder by making my whole body stronger.. not just the shoulder. In a way its almost like a bad relationship that keeps going through break ups and make ups on and on, but the only way it will work out is if the WHOLE Relationship is fixed and brought to a new stronger level.

taktics,

EFT is great at silencing the immediate symptoms. I prefer to resolve the cause of problems, and that's what Greene's Release does - and much easier than EFT as you don't have to keep doing the same issue over and over again, once and it is finished with.

You can think of your shoulder and body as being an extension of your sense of well-being. How you are feeling emotionally.

It's really funny to ask someone who has a sore neck "who's being a pain in the neck?" Sure enough someone is annoying them, and as soon as that is resolved, the neck takes care of itself.

That is what I was referring to when I asked "when you think of your shoulder, what do you feel emotionally?" This will answer the source of your shoulder issue.

Health is a life topic, so of course there are several related issues.

Your shoulder is your impetus to change your whole life, which will automatically resolve your shoulder issue in the process. Just like people think love is an issue, when it is their 'fear of love' or 'past hurts'. They focus on the love topic and ignore their past hurts that cause their behaviors and emotions. So the cycle keeps repeating.

I am glad it is merely an annoyance that is pushing you rather than something more serious. Btw you are the one to heal your shoulder, it is about what you do - not a method or product.

FYI. The process of resolving this shoulder issue with Greene's Release would involve the following. Learn a set of tools (which really are innate everyday abilities like thinking and feeling freely beyond the control of fears and beliefs), use these tools to walk into your unconscious mind to access, heal and dissolve the source of any issue, then use these new skills to take a journey into health and well being. The step by step process is provided.

[Tanemon]

Originally Posted by Inspirations

EFT is great at silencing the immediate symptoms. I prefer to resolve the cause of problems, and that's what Greene's Release does - and much easier than EFT as you don't have to keep doing the same issue over and over again, once and it is finished with.

You can think of your shoulder and body as being an extension of your sense of well-being. How you are feeling emotionally.

Interesting and evokes my curiosity. I'd like to know more. I've PM'ed you, Inspirations.