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Hahh...i just ripped this off a post i just wrote. its pretty informal but i think its frigging awesome. its a bit long too, but definitely not mindless repetition. a bit of rambling maybe, but interesting rambling. thought it might help people everywhere "consciousness is all that matters In GP, one of the most common arguments about technology questions is that technology is neutral, it can be used for good or bad purposes. And if you look beyond technology, you'll find that the concept of neutrality extends to almost everything; governments, logic vs emotions, the media, force, pacifism, power, money, sex, drugs, television, everything is neutral. Whether or not its used for constructive or destructive purposes depends entirely on the consciousness of the entity that uses it. that's why i sometimes find it a bit stupid to have to bypass or ignore this simple observation in order to answer a GP question without rambling/contradicting myself/giving an argument that appears to be effective. Consciousness is all that matters, a conscious, loving person will do good stuff, and vice versa. It's cool that a lot of religions, quantum physics, mytics, spiritual teachings, medicine, hypnosis all point out to a simple fact that consciousness affects and influences reality, not just mentally or emotionally but physically. Until sec 3, i sorta accepted that the world functioned unaffected by my consciousness or my thoughts. Most people can accept that your consciousness affects you mentally and emotionally and can have some impact on your actions, but they suddenly find it difficult to accept that it can affect your entire reality even without you physically doing anything. I was keen to try the theory that "your thoughts affect reality" out and was hoping damn hard that it would work cause it would be so amazing and empowering if it really did...but i had a lot of doubts that stemmed from the belief that i couldn't influence reality just by thinking and feeling, fourteen/fifteen years worth of it. I did get some success which kind of made me believe in it more and more, but it was always a kind of half-hearted belief which i always had to justify mentally whenever a doubt came up(which was often) Part of the reason was that a lot of the articles and authors i encountered only focused on all the positive successes and rarely/never addressed the person's doubts, problems that they experieneced and just basically making it sound as if it was all that easy. Well, it is very simple, but its certainly not easy. Also, i realised that a lot of them gave general advice without really explaining how it worked, probably because they DIDN'T REALLY KNOW HOW IT WORKED and just pretended to. THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT POSITIVE THINKING REALLY IS after a lot of insight from eckhart tolle and klaus joehle and my personal successes and experience, i believe i do. the common understanding of positive thinking is limited to having thoughts that are positively phrased such as "wow, that's great! good job!" or looking at the positive side of things"well, you could've have screwed up even worse!". this kind of positive thinking at best has a minimal impact. You can screw up and someone sarcastically comments"wow, that's great! good job!(at ****ing up)", or tells you"well, you could've screwed up even worse". Very positively phrased words, but the energy and vibration is that of hate,attack,arrogance. what really makes a difference is the energy and vibration that your thoughts can give you. trying to think positively when you feel like **** is very draining and just pathetic.I did a lot of it in the past and never felt any significant improvement, instead i felt like i was going around in circles, stagnating, pathetically trying to improve the situation. yet all those idiots who advocate this says that it works and all i have to do is to try it out! well, **** them, i've finally leanred how positive thinking works. I use my thoughts to make me feel positive, loving, happy, excited, contented. Sometimes i visualise and fantasize that i'm completely independent, living with a group of friends and having lots of money and having lots of fun everyday. i think about it and go"wow that's amazing" and i start feeling really good. I sense how it'll feel like when i have that and let myself feel that. Another thing i like to fantasize about is to do some really heroic stunt, like maybe jumping from the second storey and saving this really pretty girl and then i'm a little bit hurt(not seriously, because i don't want to manifest that in reality) so the girl is all grateful and concerned about me, and everyone sees it and i feel like a hero and i love the girl's attention I just start to feel awesome when i think about that. the feeling will probably be different for everyone, the fantasies different but the basic concept is the same; use thoughts to make you feel positive. I don't always do elaborate scenarios like that, i can just imagine that i have 36 million dollars and feel and appreciate how wonderful it is to have it. Or that everyone loves me, wants to talk to me, and feel and appreciate that. Whatever i want, i imagine that i have it and start to feel amazing. I don't want to use the word "pretend", although it is a little bit of pretending. You don't really have that in your physical reality now, but you imagine you have it. To me, the process of imagining and feeling it is already creating it, the experience of having it, the feelings of having it, is very real. The good feeliings are certainly real, the things you imagine may not yet happen in physical reality, but just by thinkin and feeling positively, that reality is going to be directed towards those things you imagine. maybe i won't get an exact scenario of jumpin from the second storey, but maybe i'll just push samantha raeburn away from a falling object and you know, something similar or close to that happens, and the feelings i get from that is the same. not everything you think about will manifest in physical reality, but everything you think/feel about will affect it. the more intensely and frequently you think/feel about something, the more likely its going to come because you're sending more and more energy to it
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How the hell do i know if it really works or not? a little bit from the fact that all sorts of people and authorities explaining and affirming that thats the way it is, plus a few personal successes i had, but really, the thing that pushes me to believe that it works is because it just feels right. Some things, you don't have to have it be proven to you. It's not about blind faith. It's just this intuitive knowing that, THIS IS IT. The world is just a mass of probabilities, its a probability that the scientists don't lie about their findings, its a probability that your beliefs are right/wrong. but some things, you just know, that its real. Its like watching a child smile and you just know that the smile is really genuine and there's something beautiful about it. You just sense and know its beautiful and real. its a belief that it works, its also a belief that it doesn't work. Why should i choose to believe that it doesn't work? You're not living in delusion or illusion by believing it works, you're just choosing to live in a different illusion. Not believing that it works just lets you live in a different, less empowering, less optimistic, hopeful, joyful illusion. One time i was imagining being with this perfect, beautiful girl. I don't really know what traits she should have to complement me perfectly, so i just get a feeling of what it would feel like if she was the perfect girl. It's not really about the specific things, its the feeling that really matters. I just like hmmm how would having this perfect girl feel like and just feel it. so ahem, one thing to take note of here is that you don't have to maintain the image or the thought or keep playing the scenario over and over again, you use thinking to get you into the feeling and then just keep feeling it, or if you want to, you can think, whatever you like, i was sidetracking, the poin i wanted to make was that while imagining it, i had this doubt"what if it doesn't happen? what if it never happens?" First of all, SO WHAT if it doesn't happen? the happy, awesome, loving feeling i get is worth imagining alone. but then i realised that the "what if it doesn't happen?" doubt was simply just a different, more negative thought. at first it felt like a "real" concern, but i realised, its no "realer" than what i imagine, what i choose to think! basically, the doubt was just my mind involuntarily imagining that it did not happen! that sudden realisation made the doubt look so much less real, so much less significant. its just a thought, not "real" or "unreal", its just a frigging thought! and then, theres no point in trying to fight the thought or stay away from it, thinking that you're going to create a reality like that if you keep thinking about it. i just love it, i just accept and even LOVE the doubt. i don't accept it as a "the truth', i just accept and love its presence, then i go back on focusing on whatever i was. sometimes i do it, sometimes i don't, whatever, the important thing is not to resist or try to fight what already happened. its probably a lot easier for me that most people because i've had a lot of experience and practise with accepting and dealin with all these doubts(THE POWER OF NOW for 1 and a half years!) The doubts, negative thoughts and emotions felt a lot, a lot more real and were a lot more frequent in the past, and i gradually got better and better at dealing with them and they gradually felt less "real". but they were still pretty ****ing irritating and bothersome all the way until i had the sudden realisation that the doubts were just "negative thoughts" that had as equal a basis in reality as the "positive thoughts". another factor that helped was probably my experience with lucid dreaming.in lucid dreaming, you are free of a lot of the physical limits in physical reality, you can fly, make people appear, make pretty girls appear to...talk to them, yep, no hankypanky.become invisible and all that.in a lucid dream, your thoughts create reality almost instantaneously. but you got to practise, sometimes, you can fly with full control over speed, direction lift-off, sometimes you keep trying but you can't really control the direction and speed which you fly very well. one time i flew about 0.5 metres off the ground at a speed of 0.5metres/second. then you start wondering if reality is really no more than a more permanent, less fluid dream. in the dream, if you aren't lucid, you thik the dream is very real. In reality, if you don't think you are dreaming, you also think this reality is very real and unmalleable. when spiritual masters say to "awaken" from the dream of reality, they mean to realise and understand that reality is simply a different dream, but still a place where you can consciously manipulate and control physical reality. if you aren't lucid, you'll never be aware of your ability to create the reality, even though it is your consciousness that creates it. even if you are lucid, it'll take practise and experience for you to fully and skilfully create everything you want to experience. sometimes you can't fly in your lucid dream because part of you doesn't fully believe you can, but then there's enough belief for you to fly in a somewhat awkward manner. So yea, having the experience of lucid dreaming helped in making it easier to swallow the concept of consciousness creating reality. yea, its really consciousness. thought is just a tool to help you create it. the real power behind creation is really consciousness, attention to emotions, thoughts and experiences you wish to have. consciousness is all that matters as i write this, during some parts of the post, i imagined myself writing to an audience and realised there were a lot of loopholes that i experienced myself and didn't address. so i kinda felt like i ought to plug and explain them, but then, i didn't feel like doing that, it felt too much of a hassle, and then it might just turn people off or people might not even want to read it. at some parts i felt like i was wrtiin to myself, and as i wrote my ideas down they became clearer and more insightful than i thought they were. i kinda realised i should just write what i felt like, there may be loopholes, unanswered questions, you know, but the mind can't do everything perfectly. i should just let consciousness take over, do what is best for the situation, and just sort everything out nicely anyway, one problem i encountered with trying to create reality was that i'd have this burning need for something and need it so much. like eyesight. there was one period i was obsessed with improving it, and really, what i did was to focus on the lack of any improvement. i kept affirming and intending, and kept trying to look for improvements and when they didn't come, i'd be disappointed. so my thoughts, emotions and all that were just focused on not having it and then creating it. that's a serious problem for most people, because they have something they feel like they really need and they keep trying to create in their reality, focus on the lack of it, end up frustratedand give up on the entire thing what i did to get me pass this problem was that i only focused on having it. i stopped trying to look for results. just kinda trust it to come. sometimes i'd involuntarily look for results...and i just realise that it's a negative thought/emotion, love it, accept it, and very quickly,i stopped being so obsessed with having it and seeing results. its possible that things that you want can come instantly, but there are also times when it takes a little bit more time to come. how, when, you really don't know. isn't that a convenient excuse for saying that your consciousness does create reality BUT it hasn't come yet? it isn't...but really, even if it is, it doesn't really matter. i feel so good and happy and positive, through positive thinking, that it doesn't really matter. its great if it really comes, but, hell, i already feel good so i don't really need it to make me feel good. if it comes, i'll feel better probably, but its not really necessary. so even if you don't believe any of this, you can just do it, just for the heck of it, just to play, just to feel good. and none of that bullshit about "fake" happiness. happiness is an emotion, you feel it, its real. its a practise, its a journey. it took some time and energy for me to finally get a very good idea of how to utilise the concept of consiousness creating reality, and i'll probably get even better in the future. i just learn that i don't have to do things perfectly, that i can trust myself, (why the hell should i trust anyone else?, i don;t have to get it right immediately, i don't have to even get it right.very important thing i learned is to ignore the "i believe it works, but not for me" belief that a lot of people have. i don't have to be comprehensive or perfect or convince anyone. people can just read it and maybe get interested, find out more, then work it out themselves oh yea, one thing that works intantaneously for me is...like when im walking around..i just imagine that everyone is comfortable and likes me, i just know it, feel it. and then its so easy for me to look people in the eye, walk confidently, do some dance-rhythm walk."
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Great post - thank you for everything you've written here. It was very helpful to me I used to have lucid dreams when I was a youngster - I would change the way the dream was going and make stuff happen in it, plus I would get myself into scary situations and then say 'Oh, it's just a dream. I can change it...' and I would, although I remember that it required some effort of focus and fixed attention... How did you get on with your eyesight? I know exactly what you mean: I have something physical that I have manifested and my whole attention is on it every day - I want it GONE but I keep checking 'Is it still there? Has it got bigger?' and of course, I am creating more of it, so my attention is more drawn to it. Don't know how to get my attention off it BUT - before this manifestation appeared I was, like you, trying to improve my eyesight without much success (for the same reasons). Now I have my attention on my unwanted manifestation - and my eyesight has improved radically! It seems like a game of hide and seek at times But great post and very helpful, thank you! Jools xxx |
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so did you get the woman? I've got the idea, that there is no one rule that works for everyone. I think the general ideas can help each of us find our LOA mojo, but at the end of the day we have to find what works for us. I think that is what frustrates so many, is that what works for one doesn't seem to work for them, but maybe the key is for each of us to find our own way. I mean each of us are individual aren't we? So why wouldn't the way we shape our destiny be individual as well? Otherwise we would all be a bunch of drones. Like what seems to work for me, is when I have absolute belief in something positively without a doubt, no matter how ridiculous it is, it usually happens. The problem is I don't always think this way, it's like I don't always want to use my positive magnet that attracts what I want. Now I think the next key for me to unlock is... why I actually do that to myself. Is it that self doubt that this all just a fantasy in my head? The reason I say this, is that I do what you do all the time, ever since I have been young, but I don't believe that's what gives me positive results. It something else for me. Last edited by ellie; 08-02-2009 at 11:38 AM. |
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I like what you are saying Ellie about everyone finding their own way. I too believe that we just need to find what works for each of us. But I also believe there are a set of truths that can help guide us. I go by the following: -- Everyone is already a magnificent being. -- We have the free will to create our lives however we want. And whatever we create/experience is perfect. It is there to help us learn more about ourselves. -- Life has no meaning except for the meaning we give it. So if we stop judging stuff as good or bad, we don't get tripped up in emotion. What if we had the perspective that everything was good? -- When we believe in ourselves, we can create anything. (Just like when you said "when I have absolute belief in something positively without a doubt, no matter how ridiculous it is, it usually happens.") Would love to hear your thoughts. Nat
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