Do you tell friends/family about your I/Ms?

[myjourney11]

I'm wondering if their negative words or thoughts would have an impact on the outcome even if your thoughts are the most positive despite what they say or think.

[Michelle]

If you aren't secure in your own LOA process and in yourself, I wouldn't share. Or if you somehow believe in "jinxing" it - keep it to yourself.

I tell friends and family in order to be generous with what I have learned. Observing and learning from someone actually consciously manifesting stuff in real life is a gift to some people. Do people ever laugh or criticize? Yes, but who cares. I feel secure enough in myself and my own ideas that any criticism or laughter is blown away by my inner knowing. Once something has manifested, witnessing the amazement of another is a great bonus.

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by myjourney11

I'm wondering if their negative words or thoughts would have an impact on the outcome even if your thoughts are the most positive despite what they say or think.

When you talk about telling your friends/family, are you talking about:

(1) revealing the specific content of your goals (eg "I wish to get a new job")

or

(2) the processes you're using (eg "I am using a vision board / meditating / visualising" etc).

or

(3) both.

[myjourney11]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

When you talk about telling your friends/family, are you talking about:

(1) revealing the specific content of your goals (eg "I wish to get a new job")

or

(2) the processes you're using (eg "I am using a vision board / meditating / visualising" etc).

or

(3) both.

I would have to go with #3. Telling them specifically what the goal is and the process to achieve it.

[Willworker]

I really wouldn't. As a rule, it just seems like a bad idea.

[aabbcc]

I don't tell anyone anything until after my intention has manifested. I think it's mostly habit from my witchcraft background - don't talk about a magickal working or you'll lessen its power. As this has always been most effective for me, I don't really see any reason to change now.

I do love to share the results though. I will often write about my LoA experiences in my personal blog. It's nice to be able to go back later and read about them.

[Angela]

I love telling people about what I'm up to. I find they consistently get excited, inspired and motivated to get on board with mine and to generate their own inspiring new possibilities when I do share boldly. It tends to spiral up for both (all) of us.

The key, I've found, is to "chunk up" to the highest purposes of the intention when I'm talking about it, so that it's easy and fun for people to connect in with those purposes, and to see something for themselves in it.

Unless the person was interested in intention/manifestation, I wouldn't "chunk down" to the method itself -- in fact, I probably wouldn't talk about the specific methods of creating anything I'm creating by whatever means. For some people, that's really boring, and presents an opportunity for a mismatcher to find some low-level detail to argue or derail. And the people who are sincerely interested in the Hows about an intention, and how they may or may not work for them, will usually ask for details.

And again, unless the person is already interested in I/M, I wouldn't use the jargon-laden language that we sometimes use here amongst ourselves.

When someone gives me negative feedback about what I'm creating, I find it most effective to listen to that feedback and understand how it might help me -- I might be more flexible in either the intention itself, the means of achieving it, communicating it to others, or something else. Sometimes negative feedback is simply information to learn about the person giving it, and that's a good thing.

I find that if I'm withholding about an intention because I don't want negative feedback, or if I feel bad about someone's negative feedback or make them wrong, it's because a limiting decision is running me.

[joelr]

I've always felt talking about intentions somehow worked against the creation process but I was never clear exactly how. Eventually I heard both Wayne Dyer and Deepak say that stating your intentions to others who are not like-minded brings ego into the process and can disrupt it.

Some folks - like Angela - may have enough control over ego to share intentions but for some (me) it can disrupt the process.

[themaster]

I play mix n' match.. sometimes I share.. sometimes I don't.. as I keep working on the idea of "inclusion" seems like I end up sharing more..

[Dreamline]

I don't. Although we are a loving family, it took a lot to escape their inbred poverty mentality and I don't think they would relate and in effect would send bad or worried energy.

Jennifer

[gigij]

Originally Posted by myjourney11

I'm wondering if their negative words or thoughts would have an impact on the outcome even if your thoughts are the most positive despite what they say or think.

It would depend on what I am manifesting - my current one would probably not be appropriate for sharing

[magic1]

Originally Posted by joelr

I've always felt talking about intentions somehow worked against the creation process but I was never clear exactly how. Eventually I heard both Wayne Dyer and Deepak say that stating your intentions to others who are not like-minded brings ego into the process and can disrupt it.

Some folks - like Angela - may have enough control over ego to share intentions but for some (me) it can disrupt the process.

that is sooooooooooo true...very very very true, when you share it actually becomes about trying to win your point and the creative energy goes down the drain. Ideally you show by example.............

[Angela]

Originally Posted by magic1

that is sooooooooooo true...very very very true, when you share it actually becomes about trying to win your point and the creative energy goes down the drain. .

Well, that's ONE way of talking about your intention -- trying to win your point, I mean. I wouldn't think of that as sharing my intention so much, though. That would feel more like bludgeoning someone with my intention.

Another way -- a way I would think of as actual sharing -- would be to talk about what you're up to in a way that makes possibility available to the person you're speaking with. In my experience, when that happens, creative energy ramps up into an upward spiral. It becomes viral, and people want to get on board, either participating or just cheering me on.

That's a great way for me to know whether I've got a worthwhile intention or a bunky one, too -- if I don't have the capacity to speak inspiringly of an intention, if my own creative energy around it is so wimpy that I can't communicate possibility to others, then the intention itself is a bunky one*. And if I notice that when I speak about my intention, other people's eyes light up and they want in on it or to hear about my progress, especially if it is easy and effortless to get people on board with it, then I'll know I'm on track with something that is my real heart's desire.

Now, an amateur might think, "oh, well, if you base the value of your intentions on what other people think, then blah blah blah...." It would be easy to make that mistake. But it has nothing -- zero -- zilch -- to do with basing the value on what others think, and everything to do with Who I Am Being around the intention. The worthiness of the intention is based on how inspired and inspiring I am about it, and the feedback from others isn't feedback on the intention, it's feedback on my inspiration -- my inspiredness and inspiringness.

Some people are satisfied with an intention that merely inspires themselves, and that's fine. And to me, if I'm not inspired enough by it to be inspiring to others when talking about it, then it's bunky -- small potatoes.


* or I might be BEING bunky, in which case it's not the right intention for me in that moment, anyway; a better intention for me in that moment would be to move out of feeling bunky and expanding into infinite power, joy and abundance -- so, same result.

[magic1]

its just different pple and different experiences, and sometimes if you share with the wrong person, the ego can become involved...so say if you said to me, I am going to do this, and I said that's ridiculous....on a personal level the ego is very much opened up to be triggered.... I have been in an environment, that is not very supportive to what I do, and it takes a lot of self belief to do this sort of work, I personally have learned to keep my mouth shut at least until it can be shown to others in a way they will beleive..............I answered this thread as it just happened to me with my mother...and I got into an argument with her about her not having faith in me...

but again, its completely up to the person....for what it is worth though, I do share mine at times, hey I am on a forum! but I have learned not to try and convince the unconverted... I just have a select group of friends whom I discuss things with......

it dosnt really matter though in the grand scheme of things, its silly...just know and flow....

[Angela]

I agree that it is totally uninspiring to be arguing or trying to convince someone (stressfully) about your intention, both for you and for the other person! That wouldn't be fun.

Originally Posted by magic1

...so say if you said to me, I am going to do this, and I said that's ridiculous....on a personal level the ego is very much opened up to be triggered....

Imagine how powerful you would be if someone were to tell you your intention is ridiculous, and you could not only choose not to get your old pain reactivated or your ego in an uproar, but to actually be so present to the possibility inside of your intention that you are BEING that possibility, right there for the other person to see, right in front of her?

I hope you don't mind me personalizing this, and if you do, just tell me and I'll hush up, but it seems to me that you've got this great possibility for a wonderful intention right in front of you, around your mother and faith in you. It seems like your angels are trying to give you a gift here -- maybe it's building an intention that expresses you having faith in yourself, or maybe one in which you knock her socks off by having faith in her -- to actually, incontrovertibly and inspiringly Be for her what you want her to be for you. Do you see what I mean? Listen to those angels when they push your buttons -- they are bearing tremendous gifts for you!

[magic1]

Originally Posted by Angela

I agree that it is totally uninspiring to be arguing or trying to convince someone (stressfully) about your intention, both for you and for the other person! That wouldn't be fun.



Imagine how powerful you would be if someone were to tell you your intention is ridiculous, and you could not only choose not to get your old pain reactivated or your ego in an uproar, but to actually be so present to the possibility inside of your intention that you are BEING that possibility, right there for the other person to see, right in front of her?

I hope you don't mind me personalizing this, and if you do, just tell me and I'll hush up, but it seems to me that you've got this great possibility for a wonderful intention right in front of you, around your mother and faith in you. It seems like your angels are trying to give you a gift here -- maybe it's building an intention that expresses you having faith in yourself, or maybe one in which you knock her socks off by having faith in her -- to actually, incontrovertibly and inspiring Be for her what you want her to be for you. Do you see what I mean? Listen to those angels when they push your buttons -- they are bearing tremendous gifts for you!

that is lovely advice and I totally understand what you are saying..when this started for me it was EGO TRIGGER, EGO TRIGGER, BILL , BILL, BILL...so the maintenance of faith with this stuff is very very high, ....I guess for me, I have been there and done that trip, especially with my mother, and there have been so many other ego triggering events, I have made a conscious choice to minize it where I can.........and one of those ways is to stop telling pple. I get a lot of syncs and magic on a daily basis, and I used to have a strong desire for others to understand...I now realize they do not need to, but the habitual ego side of me still on some level wants this....

I also realize that the moment I start thinking there is more to the situation, ie like i have something to learn from this, is the very moment, I create the lesson.....another thing I am done doing, we can over analyze in our heads and actually take ourselves away from the actual intention.....imagine if I decided to become the person I want my mother to be, so lets just say my consciousness decided that is what the universe is saying to me....so because of that judgment call on my behalf, I decided give myself this lesson.......that in essence would take focus of a year...and on a personal level, I honestly cannot take that on board....I know if I did, Im off on another tangent, thinking I need to be this and do that......and all the while creating that path.....essentially away from my actual intention....I have done that type of thing so many times, made lessons out of no lessons, which actually, and here is the contradiction, taught me a valuable lesson, that THERE ARE NO LESSONS! ha! if you understand that....

I really appreciate you input, and your defiantly right about the strength of intention and faith in oneself, totally!!!!!!!!!!!!....but there is no stone I have not turned with this stuff, no perspective I have not seen. And the bottom line for me is there is nothing I need do, there is no nothing more to be done, there is not one lesson left, except if I choose to create one.....it really does come down to know in your intention and nothing else....with absolute unwavering ego-less faith....

ego is a pearler though.. I said to a friend tonight I totally know that I know so why does my mind not trust that??? its an odd experience to be having!

[Angela]

...imagine if I decided to become the person I want my mother to be, so lets just say my consciousness decided that is what the universe is saying to me....so because of that judgment call on my behalf, I decided give myself this lesson.......that in essence would take focus of a year..

If my buttons were pushed in the way your mother pushed yours, I would look at generating the quality you want your mother to have, rather than being the person you want her to be, and I agree that focusing for a year on that would not be what I'd want to do, either! Fortunately, the process of dismantling the wiring on a pushed button can be totally accomplished in 10 or 15 minutes, tops.

...there have been so many other ego triggering events, I have made a conscious choice to minize it where I can.

And the nice thing is that by dismantling the wiring on these ego-triggering events as they come up in the moment, as your unconscious mind presents them to you for resolution, your unconscious mind actually generalizes the ability out to other ego-triggering events. So then instead of consciously choosing to minimize ego-trigs, suddenly that's not even an issue anymore, and you are experiencing total freedom, power, joy, and effectiveness in focusing on and getting more of the results you want.

And suddenly you find yourself laughing your strong desire for others to understand, and any other desires you have, are effortlessly fulfilled.

And I agree that there is absolutely no *need* to do anything of the sort.

What does this mean: "ego is a pearler"? What is a pearler? You mean like the guy who dives for oysters and harvests the pearls? I love that image!

[MmeIntentional]

Well it depends on the person really. I just got rid of a bunch of negative people in my life 3 months ago but I didn't talk to them about it because I know that they see me a bit of a nutcase anyway. However there was one nice chap from that bunch that I do still keep the contact with and I told him about it etc and gave him my Secret DVD to watch and he really thought it was life changing for him. e.g he found love after a long time of being single.

But as far as the goal writing, vision boards etc. I have told my best friend and my loverboy. My best friend thinks nothing about the whole thing but his attitude is like "what ever works for you"
on the other hand my loverboy doesn't understand it all. I think he also thinks that I am a bit of a nutcase. BUT I don't care what people think because it works for me.

[magic1]

Originally Posted by Angela

If my buttons were pushed in the way your mother pushed yours, I would look at generating the quality you want your mother to have, rather than being the person you want her to be, and I agree that focusing for a year on that would not be what I'd want to do, either! Fortunately, the process of dismantling the wiring on a pushed button can be totally accomplished in 10 or 15 minutes, tops.



And the nice thing is that by dismantling the wiring on these ego-triggering events as they come up in the moment, as your unconscious mind presents them to you for resolution, your unconscious mind actually generalizes the ability out to other ego-triggering events. So then instead of consciously choosing to minimize ego-trigs, suddenly that's not even an issue anymore, and you are experiencing total freedom, power, joy, and effectiveness in focusing on and getting more of the results you want.

And suddenly you find yourself laughing your strong desire for others to understand, and any other desires you have, are effortlessly fulfilled.

And I agree that there is absolutely no *need* to do anything of the sort.

What does this mean: "ego is a pearler"? What is a pearler? You mean like the guy who dives for oysters and harvests the pearls? I love that image!

I have been doing this, but what happens is I spend all my time doing just that because there are so many triggering events, so if it wasn't my mother, it would be something else....., so therefore, my focus becomes dismantling ego triggering events, and what happens is I spend all this time thinking I need to learn this and presto I create them just to dismantle......so I am never in the right space, I am always over there. This is how tricky this stuff is, this stuff asks for CORRECT FOCUS, so ignore all other things....focus only on what you are choosing, its that's simple, but we create a harder path...so we create lessons, just by thinking that's what we need to learn that particular thing to actually learn to manifest....if that makes sense.. I do believe its not so much learning how to transcend it event by event, more just becoming familiar with your ego......focus and just know, and know in what you are asking for, with faith, it really is that simple..our conscious mind is very slippery....it has a habit of going off on tangents that are irrelevant....this stuff in my book is mastery of the mind (basically shut it down) so you can create through soul....

ps, I am aware of my mothers energy, so I am choosing NOT to NOT have a mum, more just to back of a wee bit, so I can do what I now I need to do calmly with out a lesson......, focus....