weather and LOA

[themaster]

Originally Posted by garentee

I am not going to change a belief just because your belief seems to make more sense to you. Thats giving away my own personal power. The power to believe as I see fit.
Actually the truth that I see is that you are coming from a place of scarcity. You do not have the weather you want so you have to change it. I accept that I cannot change the weather and I accept the weather for what it is. I do not have to like it. Moreover your belief that your can change the weather is self serving. It takes away from someone elses good weather so you can be "happy". Generally I like really rancid weather until it affects my livelyhood.. I often have said in the past couple of months that I like this weather as a non farmer, but as a farmer, I can do without it.

I'm sorry you can't be more open minded.. but you have every right to believe what you wish..

I would think if you wanted to change this belief.. you might try researching some of the ideas I gave you like.. cloud seeding.. con men selling rain and rain dances.. you might be surprised if you allowed it to begin altering that belief.. (and again that is through the idea of our illusion of recorded history )

All of us.. and I say all of us have 999% more effect on the world then 1 politician.. then even 1 president.. we our the ones changing the world not them.. but again that may not be a belief/idea you can reconcile with so therefore give your power to others.. no problem they love to take it

[garentee]

Originally Posted by themaster

I'm sorry you can't be more open minded.. but you have every right to believe what you wish..

I would think if you wanted to change this belief.. you might try researching some of the ideas I gave you like.. cloud seeding.. con men selling rain and rain dances.. you might be surprised if you allowed it to begin altering that belief.. (and again that is through the idea of our illusion of recorded history )

All of us.. and I say all of us have 999% more effect on the world then 1 politician.. then even 1 president.. we our the ones changing the world not them.. but again that may not be a belief/idea you can reconcile with so therefore give your power to others.. no problem they love to take it

Not sure exactly where my belief that I have no control over the weather shows that I give ALL of my power away to politicians . thats a pretty big reach. After doing a little research on cloud seeding (which in my view is physical manipulation of nature)It seems that there is no way of really telling if the clouds produce more rain or if it were going to rain that much to begin with. And really how could you tell? Just like how can you tell the weather changed because of YOU? What makes you so sure that your own power is NOT an illusion?

[themaster]

What makes you so sure that your own power is NOT an illusion?

And so what if it is??? What can it hurt???

LOA teaches you that thoughts affect reality.. so the bigger step is to understand there are no coincidences and there is no where that you cannot reach or have influence..

All you do is hold yourself back with such limited ideas.. but your choice, your life

[garentee]

Most thoughts are illusions.

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by garentee

Most thoughts are illusions.

Exactly. So is reality. (You might have heard that from Buddha).

While his approach was to transcend the illusion entirely, we lesser folks are still experimenting with altering the illusion by altering the illusions (i.e changing reality by changing our thoughts).

Ultimately Buddha's approach could be best. But then it's a really tough one to follow (notice the small number of enlightened people in the history of mankind). So the intermediate step may be just to familiarise yourself with the recognition & creation of illusions, i.e. the LOA.

[garentee]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

Exactly. So is reality. (You might have heard that from Buddha).

While his approach was to transcend the illusion entirely, we lesser folks are still experimenting with altering the illusion by altering the illusions (i.e changing reality by changing our thoughts).

Ultimately Buddha's approach could be best. But then it's a really tough one to follow (notice the small number of enlightened people in the history of mankind). So the intermediate step may be just to familiarise yourself with the recognition & creation of illusions, i.e. the LOA.

So really all of this LOA stuff is then illusion as well...

[Angela]

Originally Posted by garentee

So really all of this LOA stuff is then illusion as well...

A breakthrough!

[Wax Frog]

I finally got to experience the bad-weather-cleared-for-wedding phenom this past week; despite a bleak all-day forecast, early buckets of rain became overcast skies, and then clear blue just as the procession wrapped! And yes, I was playing at manifesting, so I'd like to think...

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by garentee

So really all of this LOA stuff is then illusion as well...

Yes of course. The most accurate picture you can get from science is that you yourself are nothing but empty space, with a few subatomic particles rapidly blinking in and out of existence.

So don't be fooled. It's all illusion. You are, too. The structure of your body is pretty similar to the structure of the solar system. Mostly empty space, with a few rocks floating around, and an occasional meteor whizzing in and out.

Actually Buddha figured out that one too. According to him, one of the biggest illusions that people typically have is that they perceive themselves as a separate independent self. That is, Garentee thinks that Garentee really exists; ALG thinks that ALG really exists.

They don't. They are just ever-shifting blobs of energy, consciousness, thoughts, chemical reactions, emotions, molecules and electrical impulses which blend in smoothly with the rest of the universe.

Nothing inherently exists, and everything is interconnected.

That's why your thoughts can do weird things in reality. Because they're connected with everything else.

[Daffy Duck]

ALG, have you found that the "everything is illusion" belief has helped you with your LOA results?

I mean, besides being an interesting intellectual knowledge, does the idea of everything being an illusion actually change anything for you in physical space?

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by Daffy Duck

ALG, have you found that the "everything is illusion" belief has helped you with your LOA results?

I mean, besides being an interesting intellectual knowledge, does the idea of everything being an illusion actually change anything for you in physical space?

I believe that I have told the following story before. Let me tell it again.

Once upon a time (was it in 2007 or 2008?), my mother suddenly fell very ill. She could not speak. She had difficulty breathing. She broke out in a cold sweat. Her heartbeat became very irregular. She almost lost consciousness. It was all the signs of a heart attack or a stroke.

My father immediately rushed her to hospital. Then he called to tell me. "The doctors have hooked her up to all sorts of machines," he said. "They say that her blood pressure is shooting up, then plunging down. Her face looks blue. Same with her heart rate. She's in Intensive Care now. They've got a fibrillator to start her heart, in case it stops."

I was at work at that time. There were two things I could have done. I could have rushed to the hospital to see my mother. Or I could do distance healing immediately.

(Distance healing is not entirely alien to me ... I did learn it in a funky, hands-on mind-method course called the Silva Method).

I chose distance healing. So I sat in my office and began to meditate. I chose a little image of Buddha as my mental focus (it's actually a pencil-holder in my office, which has Buddhist images on it). And I began to send healing energy.

Do you know what happened next?

My mother's condition stabilised that very day. All abnormal symptoms disappeared that afternoon. When I went to the hospital that evening, she was sitting up watching TV and eating a watermelon.

The doctors were very perplexed. They had never seen such serious symptoms disappear so rapidly.

My mother actually stayed on in the hospital for almost another week. Why? Not because she was still unwell. But because the doctors were determined to discover the cause of her condition. They sent her for every kind of test you can imagine. Blood test, urine test, brain scan, ECG, everything.

And everything came back normal.

They discharged her, without any medication. They simply did not know what was wrong. They had never seen a case like this. Here was a woman who was practically dying in front of them, and then suddenly she just recovered .... and none of the tests showed any sign that there had been a stroke or a heart attack or an aneurysm or drug overdose or anything whatsoever ....

On her last day, all the doctor could say was: "Please exercise regularly and have a healthy diet." And they let my mum go.

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Naturally, I cannot prove that my distance healing saved her life.

Naturally, I believe that it did.

Does anything I have written so far have to do with your answer? Yes of course.

Because I had already intellectually accepted that reality is illusion, I was able, during the distance healing session, to dispel doubts in my mind that there is such a thing as distance healing. I was able to believe that right where I was, sitting in my office, I could possibly do something that could really help my mother who was lying on a hospital bed many miles away.

If you understand the Buddhist idea, and if you also understand the quantum entanglement idea, and if you have read the research in prayer experiments etc, you would be much more able to carry out your distance healing attempt without doubts like:

"This is crazy ... This is impossible ... Is anything really happening?" etc.

So yes, this was one occasion where my belief that reality is illusory did help me with my IM.

[themaster]

Nice story goddite..

[Daffy Duck]

Yep, very nice. I can't recall if you shared this before but I'm glad you did again.

[garentee]

Its been quite an interesting series of debates here.. It does certainly illustrate a lot of the ideas I have been working on...I am not sure what to make of all of it yet, what I do know is it has solidified my belief that everything is an illusion.. and it certainly showss me how much a lot of limiting beliefs that I still hold are illusions and further shows me that the previous belief systems that I have dismantled were absolutely illusions... funny how the human being works...Thanks G

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

Naturally, I cannot prove that my distance healing saved her life.

Naturally, I believe that it did.

While it's nowhere near as dramatic a story, my Mom came to me with a minor arm injury that would normally have resulted in an ugly bruise (she bruises quite easily). I took my best stab at a healing, not worrying if "this really works", just feeling good about it. The next day she came to me and, somewhat mystified, showed me the nice clear skin where the bruise ought to have been.

Is this how it can play out? Not one great big 'aha' moment, just a slow steady grain-by-grain erosion of doubt?