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I started to think about this as I was trying to understand random events in life. Do random events actually exist? If I truly believe in the law of attraction, then how can I believe there can be any random events? Think about it, we are putting out intentions through thought whether we know it or not. The idea is that the Universe, God, Source energy, whatever you want to call it will start to line things up for you. Provided that you are vibrational match, the universe will manifest your desire. I believe this (I am blown away by the results) but I have a problem with understanding the nature of the LoA with respect to random events. Many people on this form believe they exist, and I am not arguing this in anyway. I just want to discuss it further... So thought process started with who is bringing us our desires... First, this idea of an "entity", the universe as a "being" who thinks and acts in order to line things up for you while you work towards being a vibrational match. This idea to me is like a belief that your prayers will be answered by God if you are a good boy or girl. Once you are good, God will provide you your desire. If you are bad, God will provide you with what you deserve. Regardless, "someone" (God) is observing you, seeing what you deserve, and puts in motions events to bring you what you deserve. There is an observer, a judge to determine what you deserve and intelligence to line things up for you. Second, what if remove God and think about it in terms of Quantum physics, and that energy is attracted by like energy as described in many books and the movie "the secret". Even here something is doing the lining up of events (the part of I-M that ties in all of the world events to allow the synchronicity to occur in your life). Energy alone cannot think. A magnet doesn't know how to seek out other magnets. bring the two magnets together you have magnetic attraction through energy, but ...who brought the magnets together in the first place? So one could conclude that the energy in us and our thoughts described in Quantum physics is, or is a part of God/Source/Universe. The energy in all of us has to have intelligence in order for the LoA to work, agreed? The energy is us also has to be connected to all of the other energy in the universe in order for it to attract desires, agreed? So this must mean that when you have a desire (a thought), the energy is sent out into "the universe", this is where it gets tricky for me.... what lines things up? Seriously think about it. We all know this works but how? Steve says consciousness makes this work and I agree. I believe the energy is “God” and “God” is our collective consciousness. To me, this then means that my actions are not necessarily coming from my own thoughts, because if you have desire for something, and I am the person who can manifest that desire for you, then this "consciousness" puts thoughts in my head to allow me to bring you your desire. This thinking helped my understand the concept that we are all "one" and connected. We are all linked through our mind or sub-conscious via this energy. In Christianity and other religions, there is a belief in a personal God. The one "being" that created and judges us. Could consciousness be that one God? I was brought up Christian and while I value some of the beliefs I have a problem with the dogma and doctrines. However, is it possible that collectively our consciousness is one "God"? After all, our consciousness has the intelligence to manifest desires. Our consciousness has to evaluate all situations and events to line-up future events to manifest your desires. It acts as an independent observer of everything around us. As if all of our minds create one large mind that thinks independently. Which could be described as one “God”. This could be any God of various religions around the world. I know a lot people don’t like the using the term God, please replace it what ever you prefer, my point is not prove an existence in God, but rather to try to explain if there is single entity is that orchestrates the LoA. The reason random events lead me down this path was for all of this to happen, wouldn't every single possible event have to be orchestrated? A random event would be like God/Universe saying “I’ll just let that even slide and see what happens”. What may appear to someone as random, is likely a step towards a manifestation of someone’s desire. Any thoughts on this? Should I check myself into an institution? I’ve either come to a higher understanding, or ready to move into cardboard box on the street. Thanks Rob |
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Hey, Rob. I'm just reading the Hicks' The Amazing Power of Deliberate Intent, and their description of a unified, universal consciousness power is what some people might call god. Not a force that you're separate from, but one that you're actually inseparable from. I get the feeling that it's unnecessary to come to a "higher understanding" of LoA, as long as you align yourself so that you think thoughts that feel good when you think them. If you're constantly trying to "figure it out" (chances are that's something you do all over your life, not just LoA) then you might be aligning yourself to attract more and more things to "figure out." There's nothing wrong with that, of course, especially if thinking those thoughts make you feel good to think them. If they don't, I invite you to consider alternatives. One thing I'm finding fascinating about this book: the concept of The Contrast. The Contrast is always there, always providing you with desires, and will never go away. "You will never be 'done'", they say. I love that. |
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Also, I don't think that life is all about aquisition and desires- I think it's about giving- that the God/in collaboration with our spirits, put us on earth for a purpose, and we are here to fulfill that. Less about inflow from the earth to us (accumulation) and more about outflow from us to the world (contribution). Quote:
If our collective conscoiusness is one, I wonder why physical beings seem to be less 'pure' than the ideal or God conscoiusness? Why a God of love and light, but humans on earth seem to be of lower coinscousnesses, in fear, desire, etc. How can people say that we are both 'one with God' and say that we are 'separate', that our souls are each evolving on their own paths? |
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If you are observing what is (the contrast) then you will vibrate with whatever your attention is focused upon. The universe matches your vibration and you get more of what you are observing. You are the cause for the seemingly random nature of your life. |
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Imagine that you are a passenger on a trip from city A to city B. Also imagine that you can only see five feet in front of the car. It would appear that the scenery that is being presented to you is random based on your narrow point of view when in fact if you were to step back and look at the big picture all of those random scenes make sense in the context of traveling from city A to city B. |
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In the beginning was the one consciousness existing in the midst of nothingness. The one consciousness was not exactly a person. It was just the pure consciousness which you could call God. The consciousness decided that it was LOVE, and Love had to be Expressed. So the consciousness differentiated into Three Persons. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The Father was the one who loves, the Son is the beloved, the Holy Spirit is the self-conscious spirit of that love. Hence the trinity is One God in Three Persons. Three divine persons of the same divine essence. They are One Being with three distinct personalities within itself. These three form the Godhead of the God Consciousness. We are all of the same divine essence which is Consciousness itself. Therefore we are all One Being with the trinity. You could say We Are All God. But within the one being, there are many personalities. The Person of God which is the Most High Personality is The WORD. The WORD himself is in the Father, and the Holy Spirit is in The WORD. We are all God. The same unbounded potential of the infinite spirit also resides in each and every one of us. But we can only tap into the power of consciousness according to the level of awareness that we have. The trinity has the greatest level of awareness of all personalities within God, therefore the trinity has sovereign power. The trinity is the original and personal expression of God. God as a person is most glorious and worthy of praise and worship. Therefore God in the trinity, decided to create more personalities within itself to express praise and worship to God in the trinity. God in the trinity created Angels to glorify God in the trinity. Angels are not sovereign like the trinity because sovereignty can only belong to one and only one. The trinity is one and therefore the trinity is sovereign. The trinity is God Most high and is worthy and deserving of all our praise and worship. We praise and worship God as a Person not because we have to, but because it is most joyful, wonderful and loving to do so. I don't know about you, but as conscious as I am, and as enlightened as I can become, I still enjoy praising and worshiping God as a Person. It is not enough to know that the Self Is God, but also to know that God is a Person who revealed himself in the Word of God. A Person we can have a Personal Relationship with. To know that he personally came to save us from condemnation of evil by taking our condemnation upon himself and gave us his righteousness as a gift. He also rose again from the dead so that we may forever stand justified in the eyes of The Father. There is no greater love than a man who would give his life for a friend. Last edited by MindReality; 01-29-2007 at 08:41 AM. |
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I'll quote Hicks-Abraham as that's what I'm currently studying.. (this quote is the essence not word for word) "If you’re driving down the highway (and I use this one a lot) the people driving with you were all brought by your vibration/attraction it's not a coincidence" What I'm really trying to understand (and yah like you.. I like to understand) is if there are infinite realities.. based on seth works.. meaning there are billions of me and probably you too |
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I don't think anything is random. I think everything happens for a reason and that our lives are filled with tests and challenges to enable us to grow. I'm interested to learn whether you project positive intentions on other people who might aim to cause trouble in your life. For example, if someone is mistreating you in ways you can't control, and this person isn't spiritual or religious and doesn't have a conscience, do you project forgiveness, compassion and positive feelings to help deal with the situation in hopes it might rub off on the troublemaker? If you've done it, how has it affected you. |
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| If that's the case, Las Vegas wouldn't exist. Also: wouldn't it be very tiring to find out after each unexpected event what its purpose is? |
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Great post. Have you seen this NDE before? Mighty interesting regarding just what you're talking about: Mellen-Thomas Benedict - near-death experiences |
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Thanks for the link rockchuk. I think its interesting that Mellen-Thomas Benedict defined hell as the "descent into each person's customized human misery, ignorance, and darkness of not-knowing." In contrast, Benedict describes many heavens that go on "forever... where we pass all knowledge and begin creating the next level... We have that power to create as we explore. And that is God expanding itself through us." This reminds me how many humans limit themselves, their sense of existence and potential based on what others think is realistic or possible. We should look beyond what is assumed or "proven" to figure things out for ourselves. Frans: I agree life would be dull if we could predict all unexpected events. What I'm asking is whether anyone has tried using the power of intention to wish positive things, revelations on others and whether or not such efforts worked. My own thought is we can change ourselves and our responses to other people. Yet, leading donkey to water doesn't always entice him to drink, even if we have the best intentions, it's not our choice or life story. |
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To be honest Rob, i believe there is a greater messege to all this. I have been studying various religious books, still am, and starting to see a fine correlation and strong links between all the religions i am studying. I think people might get to carried away with the law of attraction to the extent of, forgetting reality. Okay i know how this statement doesnt make sense since the LOA states you are what you think etc. And even believing there is a limit to it will make it a limit. That said, i think the LOA is a tool, from the main thing in life, not ALL THAT IS, if you see what i am trying to say here. For example, in the Quran, it says that god has given this life as a gift and we can ask for whatever we desire, they will all be answered, if asked in the right way (intense asking like in LOA) . Then it goes on to say to stay positive all the time (it doesnt do it justice to summurize it this way, but trying to say a point) which also works with the LOA as you need to be grateful. But you dont need to be "good" or "bad" or even follow the religion of the Quran (Islam) to actually get what you want. For example, it states even "satan" asked for immortality and he was granted it till the "day of judgement". I have a feeling there is a lot more then meets the eye. I cant point it out just yet, but almost all religious books have this in some way or another it seems, and i think its not merely a case of be good, u go to heaven and be bad u go to hell like most people would understand. What scares me and fascinates me, all these religions came at different times, after reading between the lines, they seem to contain the same messege. What i am saying is, i think the LOA is what is part of the gift we are given. And even if we choose to believe it as just energy, we will still get what we desire till the end of our life, after that, well, i havent died yet so i wouldnt know, but i have my feelings on that. |
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You might appreciate this: “...Have faith in God. For assuredly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be removed and be cast into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that those things he says will be done, he will have whatever he says. Therefore I say to you, whatever things you ask when you pray, believe that you receive them, and you will have them. And whenever you stand praying, if you have anything against anyone, forgive him, that your Father in heaven may also forgive you your trespasses. But if you do not forgive, neither will your Father in heaven forgive your trespasses.” Mark 11:22-26 I think the forgiveness is the most important part of this quote. |
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If so, does it mean that 'simpler things' (more similar to information) always are easiest manifested with action? (e.g. a blue feather, more money, a beer) while more complex things (things not easily reduced to information) like a partner, job etc are better brought about with focused intention? Hope this makes some sense |
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Sounds like LOA to me
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Interestingly enough, Geiger, everything is composed of information. But the difference is between "fluid" information and "static" information. You see, physical objects like a rock or a tree or a chair have a very static [energy/information/consciousness] field (well, at least on the macroscopic level we, as human beings perceive them on). Metaphysically, at a very basic level of consciousness (of which all things are composed), this is because the energy field is very "habituated" to its reality. It has a very high "cohesiveness of association" to its current reality. It's very focused and specialized in other words. The energy of your consciousness is different from the consciousness of like, say, a rock. At least we hope so Things that have a low degree of cohesiveness are the easiest to change. Dreams usually have a very low degree of cohesiveness so the reality is very malleable. Things that have a high degree of cohesiveness, like physical objects are more difficult to alter because it requires your consciousness to be more resolved about its reality than it is. It takes more focus and intensity to alter or transform a physical object. Like everything else, it is a muscle that can be developed. The rock has developed the muscle of existing as a rock, so to alter the reality of that, your muscle of it being something else would have to be greater. That takes a high degree of intensity. But then, "intense" is a sliding relative scale. There are beings incarnate that slather realities around like we slather butter on toast. But to answer your original question, it may be easier to just go physically get something rather than display your awesome mind power by materializing a new car in your driveway or something like that. I'm not saying it can't be done, mind you, just saying its all depends on what you're trying to do. You do create your own reality. But you have to take into the consideration the level of resistance inherent in the energy you are attempting to manipulate, which I've termed the cohesiveness of association. People who have been meditating for many years usually experience a higher intensity of awareness which could possibly rival that of their surrounding reality field. Some of them are schizophrenic and delusional. Some of them are saints and masters. These individuals experience many "fluctuations" or "alterations" in their reality. In the east they call them siddhis -- the powers of the mind. An advanced meditator will experience more synchronicities or "magickal phenomena" than someone who has not spent time meditating. For example, in the book Far Journey's by Robert Monroe, he notes how he began to experience some strange physical phenomena involving materializations and even spontaneous levitation (after falling down stairs) after years of practicing astral projection and meditating. It may not even be "meditation" as we would define it. Intense trauma, obsessive daydreaming, contemplation, long hours at work focusing on specific problems, and other life experiences could also serve to develop and concentrate the cohesiveness altering ability of the mind. Well I hope you found some of that interesting. Last edited by Anagogy; 07-24-2008 at 03:07 AM. |
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Anagogy, though it wasn't what you were aiming at, I find this the most satisfying and coherent hypothesis yet given in answer to my 'desert island' puzzle. Thank you
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| You are always welcome Wax Frog.
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| [bows deeply] My resistance must be low today, I'm getting more out of the board right now than I have for several days prior. I suppose that, aside from eventually getting around to hosing out my 'inner dumpster', I also need to consider how to concoct useful manifestation 'targets' that are more abstract.
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Your post was exactly the answer I was looking for, so thank you for that. |
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Wow, Anagogy! I not only found your post to Geiger interesting, but also incredibly useful, both in terms of my understanding and practical usefulness. Thank you!
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| You are very welcome. If anyone gleams anything useful from something I wrote, it makes me deeply happy, knowing I've shared knowledge.
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| Thank you, it was very interesting to say the least! Am I transforming the rock itself or just my reality (or is there no difference?) What about the manifestation where you manifest for transportation, and then you find a winning lottery ticket for a car. How does cohesiveness of association apply here? Hope that makes some sense. It's a little difficult to formulate questions after such a mind blowing post - please share some more knowledge on this |
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For example, if someone or something did the same thing every day, for a relatively long period of time, that habit or "ritual" creates something akin to a "groove" in [reality/consciousness]. This is actually the basis of ritual magick. After that groove has been created by countless repetitions of behavior, it requires energy to "break" the habit. Habits are cohesive realities. They involve strong associations between one area of reality to another. I'm using the word "realities" in a broad context meaning "pattern of experience". So, going back to the transportation example of winning a car as you alluded to above -- this could manifest in a variety of ways. It finds its way to you by virtue of chaotic conditions. LoA thrives in seeming chaos. Highly ordered realities are more predictable, and less amenable to change. They can be, but it requires more energy to break or change the order of the reality. Now the thing about chaos is that it is actually highly ordered in its own special crazy way. It is the thought form of "randomness", which could be argued as being a highly ordered projection of an ideal (that being randomness). But if we look at chaos as an idea, it implies unpredictability and chaos. It could go any way. It is the thought-form of non-cohesiveness. Its like you have the dichotomy of creation/destruction. Chaos is the destruction side of the divine. Creation and destruction are both the same in a way. Between two points of order, or creation, there is always temporary chaos as the new reality "settles". This is why sometimes life gets crazy for a while when you start practicing intention manifestation. It can seem violent when the "kinks" in the garden hose of life are forced straight by large amounts of water moving through it. So when we use intention manifestation to attract an experience or circumstance, the energy of your awareness is being directed toward an outcome. The events that take place for your intent to be fulfilled are "reflexively engineered". What this means is that, when you send out intent, the outcome is "fixed" in the future, which then reflexively forces a certain turn of events to occur for that specific probability to play out. Of course, the ease of this manifestation taking place is wholly dependent on the quantity and quality of the energy you send out. The reason chaotic or non-cohesive realities are easier to "fudge and nudge" is simply because they are less resistant to change. So you have this desire/intent for transportation and you keep focusing and expecting and believing this will be fulfilled. This causes energy to start flowing toward the reality you are picturing. Its heading your way and things are lining up for this to occur. You are creating a reality field, and people and things that match that reality field are being pulled in, especially things and people that are not "set in their ways". People who expect chaos for example, could be pulled into your reality field to be instruments of your manifestation. A huge dance of energy is going on, and hopefully, if you keep flowing the energy of your awareness toward your goal, it will eventually reach you. How soon depends on the quality and quantity of the energy you send out. Over large time-scales even some highly cohesive realities seem non-cohesive and easily malleable by relative comparison. Well that was probably an over abstraction of something that is really very simple and intuitive. Let me know if you need additional clarification. |
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Hope you don't mind me continuing with this So simply put: an IM skeptic would most likely manifest a lottery ticket, but a true believer could just as easily materialize a car in his driveway? Also if I understand you correctly (and to answer the OP question) - there really are no random events? To put it bluntly: The victim actually attracts the robber (and vice-versa) ? Although this (as Acting Like Godot has pointed out) doesn't imply culpability for the victim as he probably couldn't foresee that specific event happening based on his original intent/vibration (it would appear as a random/chaotic event)? As for improving the quantity/quality - I understand that meditation is the best way of doing this? Is there other ways? Thanks again! |
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| I agree, but it is also a little frustrating I might have been too quick to jump to conclusions. Would you mind elaborate on quantity versus quality? There was a thread about thinking about something and then forgetting about it. I wonder how that relates to especially the quantity part..? What is most important; quantity or quality? Or how do they relate? Thank you, Geiger |
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In my opinion, quality is far more important and quantity. The quality of your intent will determine the quantity you need of that energy to accomplish your desire. The quality of the energy is a factor derived from the amount of resistance you are holding relative to your desire. This involves contradictory thoughts. The less contradictions in your consciousness, the more even and powerful the flow. In Ask and it is Given, Abraham uses the analogy of a car and a tree. The speed of the car is the desire/intent/attention factor, and the size of the tree is the resistance factor. If it is a big resistance tree, its going to hurt when you hit it. This would indicate vibrational discord, or contradiction in consciousness relative to the desire. If the car was big enough and fast enough, it could smash through the tree, but it would be difficult and probably painful. So you either have to diffuse the desire, increase the desire, or remove the resistance (trees). Option 3 is usually the easiest. Affirmations are a method by which people beat against the wall of resistance in their minds. For example, an overweight individual may say, "I am skinny and fit" over and over again. This is an attempt to combat the reality of being overweight. Over time, this will affect a change to a new reality as the cohesiveness of the old reality deteriorates. The amount of time this requires is a factor of the resistance to the new reality, which in other posts I've referred to as the level of cohesiveness. Now, with topics of very little resistance, it requires very little energy to change. So wishing, and then forgetting, is a great way to allow. When you completely forget about the wish, you disavow resistance. It's like total trust in a way. When we think about things constantly we almost invariably have some sort of insecurity attached to the outcome of our thoughts. This subtle anxiety and worrisome anticipation is resistance to the desired reality. This means we have to send out more energy to combat the resistance -- an example of having to resort to the quantity factor to make up for the lack of quality. Hope that helps.
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