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Old 06-30-2009, 08:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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How much of my reality am I responsible?For example,am I responsible of the television my father bought and brought to home?The television is in my reality,so did I create it?Did I create it or other people created it and then I attracted it?Did I create my computer or attracted it?Am I responsible of things I see/watch on the television?Am I responsible of my mother's acts against me,do I attract-create them?

Do I create the objects in my reality or do I attract them?
Am I a creator or an attractor?
My country's stupid fanatic religious prime minister is sometimes in my reality(on television or mental).Do I attract or create my country's stupid prime minister's acts?Or do I have no effect on his acts?

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Old 06-30-2009, 08:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Many people here will tell you that you're responsible for all of it, down to the smallest particle.

What do you think?
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Old 06-30-2009, 09:05 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Well, I think it's certainly more than what most people were raised to believe. I've lived my life with the overly conservative estimate already. So now, it seems reasonable to just assume excessively the opposite way to see what happens (of course, within safe limits such as not assuming I can jump off a skyscraper and survive, you know.)

It would seem that wherever the method falls short could simply be noted and adapted around. However, in these last few months experimenting with total subjectivity, I've done so much more with my life than I had been doing previously. At the same time, it's not as simple as snapping your fingers and living your life taking total responsibility for everything . . . Sometimes you just fall back on those older habitual ways of thinking anyway.
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Old 06-30-2009, 09:17 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks for your answers.

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Many people here will tell you that you're responsible for all of it, down to the smallest particle.

What do you think?


I think the opposite but I don't mean I think the opposite I mean I think that people here will tell me that I am responsible part of it.I feel like they will say that ,for example I am responsible for my own acts and my emotions against my mother's acts,but that I don't create or attract my mother's acts.

Which perspective do I like more?I don't want to say it for now,I'm waiting for answers.
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Old 06-30-2009, 10:01 PM   #5 (permalink)
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How much of my reality am I responsible?For example,am I responsible of the television my father bought and brought to home?The television is in my reality,so did I create it?Did I create it or attract it?Did I create my computer or attracted it?Am I responsible of things I see/watch on the television?Am I responsible of my mother's acts against me,do I attract-create them?
Attract implies distance between you and the attracted object. Distance is an illusion created by your sensory apparatus. "You" are everywhere at once. It's more like tuning into a specific frequency. The "action" that occurs in the physical world is simply a reflection of that (its like the song you are listening to).

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Do I create the objects in my reality or do I attract them?
Am I a creator or an attractor?
You are an "organizer". Everything already exists within the Universal Mind, but you organize how your ego experiences it.

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My country's stupid fanatic religious prime minister is sometimes in my reality(on television or mental).Do I attract or create my country's stupid prime minister's acts?Or do I have no effect on his acts?
You don't choose his acts for him. You do choose how they affect you though, be that negatively or positively.
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Old 06-30-2009, 10:22 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Anagogy why didn't you answer my private messages which I sent a few days ago
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Anagogy why didn't you answer my private messages which I sent a few days ago
Sorry, I tend to forget to check my in box.

I'll take a looksy.
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Old 06-30-2009, 10:28 PM   #8 (permalink)
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You don't choose his acts for him. You do choose how they affect you though, be that negatively or positively.
So,this means that I don't attract my mother's acts against me too,right?

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So,this means that I don't attract my mother's acts against me too,right?
You don't determine another's actions, but you are the allower of what enters your conscious experience.

Your consciousness creates the "slots" which then must be filled with experiences that "fits" those slots.
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Post taking responsibility for all

I’ve been into LOA/I-M for a long time and one of the things put out in one (or more) of the IM-related seminars I took a few decades ago is the notion of taking total responsibility for everything.

The idea was/is that… whether it is obvious to you or not, whether it makes rational sense or not, whether you can see or understand what part you played in something or not, you simply try on the notion (or viewpoint) that somehow, on some level, in some mysterious way, you have something to do with everything that occurs in your life.
Experiment with that viewpoint and see what happens in your life.

For a long time I have lived my life coming from this point of view… I have incorporated it so that it’s generally “second nature” to me… and I can tell you that the difference it makes is huge. I stop myself when I start blaming circumstances or others for something I don’t like… I’ve had to give up “playing victim” or feeling like a victim in many circumstances where that’s what I’m tempted to do… and I’ve been greatly empowered to take charge of things and create my life the way I would like as a result of cultivating this mindset. I’ve also found a lot of peace and have lightened up a lot because ‘taking responsibility’ engenders giving up a lot of the fighting, blaming, resentments, grudges, anger, and life-struggles. The “responsibility mindset” also is a more conducive “ground of being” for deliberately creating (or manifesting) the things you intend in life.

Now keep in mind that this “taking responsibility for all” is not a head-thing. It’s not something you try to figure out with your head, especially when you look at situations for which you can’t see how you could be responsible for them (or any aspect of them). You don’t analyze things, you don’t feel bad about things or blame yourself for having “manifested” something which made a mess in your life or for others (You do try to clean up the mess, but without blame).

You just don’t think-about (or think-about as little as possible) and simply take responsibility…
Like if it’s something “bad” I might think, “Ooops… something in me must have brought this about somehow… Now what do I want?… (or “…What do I do? or “…How do I clean this up?”). Something along those lines.

At least that’s how I use this concept/tool. Actually that’s a key word there… For me it’s more of a “tool” for life-empowerment than anything else.
I don’t care if I’ve manifested the lousy leader of some other country or any of that stuff. I’m more concerned with the circumstances of my life and what I can do to change things (in my life and in the world).
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Old 06-30-2009, 10:59 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Landi Star,thanks for your answer.


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Attract implies distance between you and the attracted object. Distance is an illusion created by your sensory apparatus. "You" are everywhere at once.
I as consciousness maybe everywhere,but what about attracting to my body?
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I as consciousness maybe everywhere,but what about attracting to my body?
Well, of course, there is what we perceive as movement in the physical world. The physical world is mechanical, as well as the body, since it is part of that world.

I was trying to expand upon the view that we are over here, and the object of our desires is over there. When we rest in the well being of knowing we already have everything we ever desired (because we are everything), then that well being transfers down to our physical avatar.

As an analogy, it's like our ego is a finger on a hand, and our desires are perceived as the other fingers. We try to get those "other" fingers to come to us, by attraction. We don't realize we are the whole hand, and that both fingers are extensions of that hand. If we want the hypothetical fingers to touch, why don't the fingers meet in the middle? They are both simply parts of the whole, neither "owns" the other. So what we think of as attraction is really just the Self changing configuration.

You would be just as valid in saying "you" were "attracted" to the object, rather than the object being attracted to you. See my point?

The idea of attraction raises perplexing questions when seen from the perspective of the hand (continuing the analogy). Like why do the fingers need to touch? From the hand perspective they are already connected. Also, why should one finger try to dominate or control the other fingers, they would be more affective doing whatever it is they wish to do, if they worked together. Besides, they are one organism anyway, the fingers only SEEM to act independently of the other fingers. From the hand perspective, it is an absurd thought that each finger is working only under its own influence.
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How much of my reality am I responsible for?

Depends on how you look at it..
It is a flip side of the coin.. it is a paradox

If you understand that you and I are the same being/same particle.. then that is a way of looking at all of it..

But if you understand that this experience is one that is with our other selves.. where we reflect, to each other.. and interact then you understand technically your only responsible for your own reflections and reactions.. you adopt ideas that are you and in a way our also external
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Right or wrong, my belief is that we create our own reality but we influence the reality of others and they ours. Things we do also affect those closest to us and vice versa. This is why we are warned to make sure that what we ask for will not have a detrimental effect on anyone else’s life because what effects their life also affects your life and vice versa.

I created this little drawing to show what I mean.

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If I am responsible for everything that happens, am I responsible for the rain and clouds that are causing my farm produce to suffer? Or for my truck to break down? Are the other farmers in the area responsible for the rain too that is setting them back? I certainly see how this works in conjunction with human relationships etc, but what about external events and biological activity of soil micro organisms due to external events?
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For some people losing everything was the best thing that ever happened to them.
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