Opposite effects of the Law of Attraction

[Rob S]

Steve has posted several blogs over the last little while discussing how to become a vibration match for your desires. Such as how gratitude is essential for the LoA, which I agree.

My question is how can we explain situations where people who have no gratitude, always worry and are fearful, complain about debt, their job and relationships, and then win the lottery (Or suddenly come into large amounts of money through other means)?

I don't know how many times I have heard lottery winners say "I have so much debt and constantly worry about how will make my bill payments. Now I can finally be debt free". Or sick people who focus on their pain, suffering and desease and then suddenly become healthy again (without any change in medication or surgery etc).

I knew a man once, a neighbour, who was not grateful for anything he had and complained day and night about what little he had and cursed his own life. He then won a wack of money on the lottery. Should the law of attraction not bring these people more of what they already have? I see how hard Steve is working to become a vibrational match for the $1 million (MDE), and yet these other people, working directly in the opposite direction somehow become a vibrational match for their desire to win the lottery?

I've seen the LoA work for me and I see it work for many others (who are not even aware of the LoA in their lives, but are constantly attracting exactly what they are putting out in to the universe). I just can't seem to understand these other cases where ungrateful, complaining, whining, fearful people attract their desires overnight. Is there an explanation for this?

[dor]

ever hear about the stat concerning lottery winners 5 years later?

[KeithHandy]

Originally Posted by dor

ever hear about the stat concerning lottery winners 5 years later?

I can guess approximately what this is, but could you please either provide the details or link to them?

[judge45]

I've often thought about that.

Even if someone wins the lottery and still has it 10 years later, hasn't lost the lot in 12 months, they didn't focus on wining it, it just happened, so how does that work?

Possibly not everything is completely set. Yes we can control some things, some outcomes, but the universe is both objective and subjective. It goes back to being god, to experience a physicality, you had to give up some of your power.

You can make stuff happen, but not everything all the time, if you could, the choice you made would be pointless. That's why there has to be some randomness about life and the lottery is some of that randomness.

But if I can focus on a dollar amount and make it happen, why not just focus on winning lotto?

I think it's because, it's not up to you to decide the 'how' it will happen. Truly desiring something is to state the intention and give it up to the universe to decide. I think saying how it will come into being, undermines the process.

It's like getting into a fight over what's the best way and no one wins, the outcome doesn't eventuate. The best way will present itself when you commit to it happening, not how it will happen.

So if you want a million dollars, focus on a million dollars, don't focus on how, it's not your job to know how, your job, your only job is to focus on the outcome, not the process.

So why do some folk get the winning numbers, when they have no intention of winning? Maybe in their hearts they do have that intention, even though the rest of their lives are a mess or they appear to be negative people.

Or the randomness of reality that must exist because if it didn't it would be boring, states that some random things have to happen to keep a balance.

Otherwise, people would just manifest anything instantly and that would defeat the purpose of having a reality.

Long answer right and not really an anwser at all??

I don't think anyone can really explain it, it's part of the mystery that keeps us paying attention.

Jeff

[Beautiful Future]

Perhaps the complainers aren't manifesting their own good fortune. Maybe it's just the collective result of sub-conscious manifestation by the people around them who are sick of hearing the whinging

[Dani]

You might find for example that they believe that they are always getting ripped off by other people.

They win the lottery, blow all the money on stupid things, then a year later they are broke again, thus providing them with exaclty what they said. Their lottery money was ripped off by other people.

Or they believe their family are money hungry and just using them for money, they winn the lotto, and sure enough their family has trouble or comes a calling, and they got what they manifested, their family asking for money.

<start generalisation>
It could be lots of things. I don't know the exact stats, but the vast majority of lotto winners are at the same financial position 1-10 years after winning it.

Reasons for this are that most lotto winners are 'poor' mentality people. So when they get this cash they treat it like their paycheck, and spend, spend, spend. But what most don't think about is that the new BMW and huge house also carry huge ongoing costs, which chew up their remaining money fast, because it isn't growing. Sure enough within several years their new toys have driven them into the ground.

If they had invested it isntead they could have lived a life free from work, but instead they get a spike and drop.
</end generalisation>

You will always have, or be heading towards, they lifestyle that your consciousness allows. Anytime you sway significantly out of that lifestyle your subconscious kicks in and starts up your habits that will bring you back in line with that lifestyle.

BTW The comments about lotto winners were in reference to Australia, where we get paid out in lump sums. Not in America where you get paid in a trickle over 20 years... (which after 10 years is likely to be worth half as much anyway due to inflation)

[TheColonel]

People on other forums make the pat and glib statement that LoA is easy, and you are using it all the time whether you know it or not.

I disagree to some extent. I think that conflicting inner beliefs cause 'random' events. I also believe that when 2 or more people's paths cross, whoever has the strongest, most focused intent will manifest the closest thing to their intention.

The lottery winner believed that he could win, plain and simple. So do lots of other people. I've won a contest before that some school kid sold me a raffle ticket for. I can't say I believed I would win, in fact, I didn't even remember entering.

Randomness... You never know what might bubble up out of that subconscious. On the surface, it doesn't make sense. But under the soil, there's gotta be some kind of order going on.

[dorothy hanna]

Hi Colonel,
I see your point. Yes, I think the randomness is also a created thing, by our default creating. We have good days, and bad days, and each of these days are in play in the LOA, so when the results come in, it's all very muttles, and mixed. But, when we become aware of the LOA, we begin to try manifesting deliberately, and making more good days, than bad days. Of course, when we start off on this venture of conciously creating we will have to wait for the results a little, as we've got the residual of our unconcious/default manifesting to live out, but keep it up, as soon, the new manifestations begin to emerge.
Before I became aware of what I was doing, I know that my experience was 90/10. 90%negative/10%positive, but as I came closer and closer to deliberate conciousness control, I'd say my experieces are now at 50%/50%. At first blush, this may seem a not so good record, but coming from where I was about 10 years ago, I'd say I made quite an improvement, and I feel and see, and live this improved life daily.
Now that I have found, and clarified the secret, I know it will take time, but am so much more in control now than a year ago, and more of my life concious choice results are beginning to emerge. By 2008, I expect to see my life function more along the lines of 30-40Neg/60-70Pos%. As the old residual life gradually fades away, and the new life gradually expands.

Sure their are lots of things I want, and want it NOW, but I know there is a cycle of "OUT w/ the OLD/IN w/the NEW." This cycle could evolve over a 5-7 year period. I'm enjoying this process.

[Andrew Brunelle]

One of the rationilzations made about why things don't immediately manifest is because it would be boring if everything you wanted just suddenly appeared. There would not be a point. Not to mention your old beliefs before you found out about the LoA are still manifesting and if you've already created something with those old thoughts, it takes a lot of momentum to break that old mold. In regards to people winning the lottery and having negative thoughts and being ungrateful, I'm sure the money was a way for them to further their ungratefulness and negativity. I'm sure the money was either lost eventually or hoarded for the illusion of security.

[mej023]

In my reality, I have created a lottery that has random winners. Looks like you have created the same thing in your reality.

Wouldn't it be weird if the only people that won the lotteries were positive minded people that believed in the law of attraction?

[Frans]

Originally Posted by mej023

In my reality, I have created a lottery that has random winners. Looks like you have created the same thing in your reality.

Wouldn't it be weird if the only people that won the lotteries were positive minded people that believed in the law of attraction?

Very well, mej023.

This illustrates that it is perfectly possible that random happenings take place, that NOT all coincidences are meaningful. It just depends on YOUR reality model.

[Dani]

Except that there is no such thing as random...

Even the outcome of the lottery is predetermined. The only thing is that we cannot -predict- the outcome, so it is perceived as random.

e.g. you roll a dice as a demonstration of randomness. The outcome of the dice has been decided before it even leaves your hand. By factors such as:

The wear on the edges of the dice
The air pressure
Your haibtual way of throwing dice
The surface you are throwing onto
The weight of the dice
The movement of people in the area, affecting air currents
The strength of your arm
etc. etc.

All of these things influence the outcome. It appears random because there are so many factors we can't possibly calculate them all. Life is the same as randomness in a computer.

a 'seed' is taken, the current circumstances, and it is put through an algorithm, your actions, to give a result.

There are no coincidences or randomness in life. Everything has a cause.

Anything that exists within physical reality is subject to the laws of the universe, of which randomness is not one. The only way to achieve randomness would be to exist outside the physical reality system.

Potentially consciousness has this ability of being outside physical reality, but then conciousness does not act randomly it too acts as a reflection of the thoughts you think.

many things -seem- random, because you can't determine the cause. But there is always a cause.

However that does not make any occurance meaningful. I can find no way 'destiny' can exist as something with a reason. Destiny does though exist in that our future is already being written by our actions now, which were written by our actions in the past, but again we cannot forsee the result of those actions, but they will happen as a direct result of our actions now.

Fate or destiny is simply that our future is unavoidable, it has no reason, simply causes. Take from that what you will.

[Dharma]

Originally Posted by Rob S

My question is how can we explain situations where people who have no gratitude, always worry and are fearful, complain about debt, their job and relationships, and then win the lottery (Or suddenly come into large amounts of money through other means)?

It appears that gratitude (and the other things you mentioned) are not necessary for creating the experience of winning the lottery.

I know it's a very short, obvious answer. But that's the answer.

[Rob S]

Originally Posted by Dharma

It appears that gratitude (and the other things you mentioned) are not necessary for creating the experience of winning the lottery.

I know it's a very short, obvious answer. But that's the answer.

OK, that would obviously make sense given the cause and effect. However, What about people who worry, have fears and focus on debt? How do those people attract money? So many people that teach the LoA attraction state that you attract what you focus on. This appears to me as acting in the opposite direction.

If you listen to Steve's latest podcast (#18) he talks about all these things he does to get his thinking in-line with being a millionaire. He has altered his actions to match those of a millionaire. That's a lot work and effort.

Again, I want to say that I fully believe in the LoA. I understand how it works, and I have had my own results. I only ask for some insight on how certain things appear to operate against the LoA. Perhaps money will bring these people nothing but misery which is what they are attracting.

Thanks to everyone who responded!

Rob

[Amit]

I'm in the middle of writing a blog post about this and it's called: The paradox of the LoA Vs Reverse Psychology.

To answer your question, gratitude is not the only manifesting force there is, it is however, the most pleasurable and pleasant one. The simple act of thinking with feeling, regardless of what that feeling is, causes attraction. Even strong thoughts of anger, resentment, complaining etc, have an extremely powerful gravitational pull just like gratitude but they manifest different things. What we don't see about these people who win the lottery without ever expecting it is their thought process. Maybe, through all this complaining, they have strong images in their mind of winning the lottery and those images along with the strong emotions attract the experience of winning the lottery.