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Old 06-14-2009, 10:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Betting Dilemma

Suppose you found a source of information that revealed to you a selection formula for horse racing, and back tracking through the last 6 years, showed a level £100 stake profit of MILLIONS!

How do you FEEL about making money from speculating on the outcome of a sporting event? Is it a big NO NO?

Should competition only be positive?
And if so, is betting a negative competition, because somebody has to lose, and may be hurt as a consequence?

Or if you have two people, one with a positive vibration, and one with a negative vibration, both looking to speculate on the outcome of a sporting event ... is one drawn to the winner, and the other to a loser?

Or ... Who is to say ( or KNOW ) what in the long run ( based on the BIG PICTURE ) constitutes a negative experience, if quite possibly, it could represent a learning experience?

And finally, the really big question, can or should INTENTION MANIFESTATION be used in the world of sports betting?

Really appreciate any feedback you can give!



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Old 06-14-2009, 10:33 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Further to that ... does the whole topic of conflicting manifestations come in to play?

Or contrary to common beliefs about betting, can EVERYBODY win, given the multiple universe angle? If so, do you think the GREAT ONE has little or no judgement regarding money and betting?

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Old 06-14-2009, 10:44 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Or ... are the answers to ALL those questions different for each of us?

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Old 06-14-2009, 10:59 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I mean ...

Betting is just an intellectual game played with bits of paper and metal that in reality are worthless ( unless we all agree that they have a value ).
Sometimes not even that. Just figures transfered from computer to computer.

Isn't it just FUN?

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Really appreciate any feedback you can give!
Quite complex and interesting questions.

Perhaps the starting point is to consider the conventional "real" world, where (1) numerous people bet, (2) the vast majority of them (presumably) do not know about the LOA, and (3) there is going to be a winner every week or month anyway.

Going by our understanding of the LOA, the winner is going to win by the LOA anyway, even though he does not know what it is. Some combination of his thoughts / desires /beliefs etc will cause him to attract that win.

So is this unfair? Ethical? Mmmm, it doesn't really strike me that way.

Now, consider that some people who bet on horses, or soccer, or some other sport, will definitely be much more knowledgeable than other bettors, about horses, soccer etc. For example, for soccer, they might have kept track of which teams are in form; which team has key players who are injured; which teams are going to meet which other teams in the league etc etc. Based on the above, they will make much more informed bets, than other bettors who haven't done such research. The more informed bets, presumably, have a higher chance of winning, than a completely random bet.

So is this unfair? Ethical? Mmmm, it doesn't really strike me that way.

To be continued ....
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Old 06-15-2009, 04:29 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Gambling is not unethical unless the activity one is betting on is unethical.

It can be a serious channel for ego to assume control one's common sense though. So if you are prone to allowing ego to control you, to your detriment, I would advise against gambling.

As far as manifesting gambling wins, I do not believe that you can influence a particular throw of the dice or a particular team or even a particular horse in a race. But you can influence your own overall gambling success with mindset. Like a global intention of being a lucky gambler.

The only reality you have any influence in, is the one you are in. Multiple universes notwithstanding. The people in your reality with you cannot also win when you win. But with gambling, the nature of the game is winners and losers or it wouldn't be gambling.

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Old 06-15-2009, 05:30 PM   #7 (permalink)
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The key is to influence your betting not the outcome. If we assume there is an infinite intelligence that knows the outcome of each event it is just a matter of becoming more aligned with this intelligence. How do you do that? ....That is the question. Some say love is the key. It really could be that simple.

There is a book called, "Lucky You" that you may find interesting. http://www.amazon.com/Lucky-You-Stra...65&sr=1-2 that
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Old 06-17-2009, 07:43 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Brilliant feedback folks! Keep it coming.

I have some really good betting systems, and good ideas for a website, but have been reluctant to commit, just incase I ecrued bad karma, by gaining at the expense of somebody else.

But if it is their will to play, surely that is okay.

And who really is qualified to know what the long term effect of a loss is. Perhaps losing will serve them in some way, albeit not obvious at the time of playing. I mean, isn't adversity a pre-requisite to personal growth and development? Or am I just making things fit to suit?

Plus, there is that other thing nagging away at me. If I make my fortune in this way, come judgement day, will it be frowned upon because I didn't really contribute to the greater betterment of the whole.

I guess I could commit 10% of any profit to charity?

What would you guys do?

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So you want to make money off of other people who are betting, not through betting yourself.

In that case it depends. Are you scamming them? Selling them information that they don't really need to pay for? Selling them information when you have falsely reported your success levels for this strategy?

When you stop and ponder, does it feel like you are doing a good thing or a bad thing?

Depending on the answers, your donation to charity may not "buy" you out of karmic retribution.

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the universe HELPS those who HELP themselves.
if u WANT to bet then bet. who knows how many FLUKEs will occur in this lifetime. I don't.

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Hi Dreamline

The website idea was more of a blog. Articles on different betting systems. But the site would have adverts on it. The intention was to build a bit of a sports betting community. Ultimately, to end up with a Diary, that might be worth publishing.

As for the betting systems, I have over 7 years data. So the results are correct for that period, and represent performance for those dates. Obviously ( much like stocks and shares ), I cannot guarantee future performance will be better or worse, but the results to date would be accurate and representative of the systems.

I listened to an audio program recently, and it just got me thinking about positive and negative competition.

My inclination is to want to give, not take. To add to the whole.
But it keeps coming back to the same point. WHO AM I to know what ultimately serves the whole in the long run.

WHAT IS MONEY? Worthless in itself ( paper and metal ), but a recognised sales voucher. Just HOW significant is it on a spiritual level.
If all that really exists is THOUGHT and INTELLIGENCE ( Energy ), and the only benefit to be had is from developement, growth and enlightenment ... then WINNING and LOSING are essential experiences and opposites that DO SERVE the whole. Aren' they?

I mean ... if you take money out of the equation, because it is man-made and not spiritual ... all you are left with is the intellectual challenge and resulting stimulation.

It's a toughie, for sure.

Betting is nothing more than a fun puzzle / challenge. A game?
Your BANK BALANCE is simply a measure of how good you are at it. Is that a bad thing?
If it is, then how does the stock market differ?
How many have Investment Accounts, Endowments and Pensions that work that system?

Keep your thoughts coming. I get the feeling I / we are working this one out :-)
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Old 06-18-2009, 05:50 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Dreamline

I read a really FUN book once, written by a Journalist in the UK ( Jonathan Maitland )

He decided to re-mortgage his house to release £50k equity, and was going to turn it into £1m, share trading in a year. His book was a diary of events, and had me in bits! He didn't make his MILLION, but he did do well :-)
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Perhaps I should also add ...

My intention is to escape the rat race, and not be a slave to money.
Money in itself doesn't interest me, or the accumulation of it.

What excites me is FREEDOM. The freedom to choose in every moment where and what would make me or others happy ...

I have given much time freely over the years to coaching children football, and often put websites together for people free of charge, to help them advance what they are doing.
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