Why do bad things happen 2 good people?

[Destine4destiny]

Why is it that when people are good hearted people they come across the worst of the worst characters and worst things in life? How do you manifest good things to come your way? Our society has things so screwed up when you're respectful and humble people try to disrespect you but when your mean and wicked people adore you and worship the ground you walk on. I just don't get it , if anyone has the answer please feel free to get back to me.

[Jack]

I think they may have "bad" beliefs although they are good people.They may focus on what they don't want,and then they get what they don't want,they may focus on what they fear,and then they get what they fear.

[lasti]

Intention-manifestation is not about how "good" or "bad" you are but about which vibrations you're sending into the universe. Start feeling good. Right now.

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by Destine4destiny

Our society has things so screwed up when you're respectful and humble people try to disrespect you but when your mean and wicked people adore you and worship the ground you walk on.

Nonsense ... I am respectful and humble and yet people worship the ground I walk on.

[Tripacer]

Originally Posted by Destine4destiny

Why is it that when people are good hearted people they come across the worst of the worst characters and worst things in life? How do you manifest good things to come your way? Our society has things so screwed up when you're respectful and humble people try to disrespect you but when your mean and wicked people adore you and worship the ground you walk on. I just don't get it , if anyone has the answer please feel free to get back to me.

Because Good people are a result of bad things happening to them. They become wiser and more noble. So, bad things happening makes you grow and learn. It is a strange thing to say, but having bad things happen to you is a good thing.

[Destine4destiny]

What you all said makes so much sense and I'm glad that there are balanced people out here in the world like you guys because it keeps me balanced when things get so frustrating. You are so right Tripacer,Lasti,and Jack I always tell myself don't make yourself look stupid and you know what I do make myself look stupid and that pisses me off because I know I am not dumb but I haven't learned how to keep that going when I'm surrounded by people I don't know I get in situations that I become uncomfortable and I just get taken advantage and made to feel less than.

[tooshie]

hi,
sorry but i disagree. in the world we live in power and money is respected. if you all happy and positive a lot of people are not going to take you seriously. They will under estimate you. Of course not all people will do this, some respect kindness and goodwill while others do not. So be street wise and realise who you can be kind to and who not. don't be a fool.

[Angela]

Originally Posted by Destine4destiny

Why is it that when people are good hearted people they come across the worst of the worst characters and worst things in life?

When did you decide that?

when you're respectful and humble people try to disrespect you but when your mean and wicked people adore you and worship the ground you walk on.

And when did you decide that?

[Angela]

Originally Posted by tooshie

if you all happy and positive a lot of people are not going to take you seriously. They will under estimate you.

I see being underestimated as a serious advantage in life.

So be street wise and realise who you can be kind to and who not. don't be a fool.

If being a fool means being kind to everyone, whether I or anyone else believes they deserve it or not, then being a fool sounds like a serious advantage in life, too.

I am choosing happy, positive, underestimated foolishness.

[Arboretor]

Originally Posted by Angela

I see being underestimated as a serious advantage in life.

Ah, yes... They waved my 12 year old VW bus through the technical inspection without problems only because I look so humble, poor and doe-eyed... Oh, if they only knew what I am...

[Angela]

Originally Posted by Arboretor

Oh, if they only knew what I am...

I know what you are, you sly little fox, you.

[SelfAwareWorld]

Things that occur, whether wanted or unwanted, are the direct result of 2 basic things:

1. Something needs to change in your life.
2. Concentrating on, or putting your attention on the wrong things.

Number 1: Example - A Divorce happens. You loose your wife or husband and maybe your home. Result: You meet someone new that really you love and they love you. Your life starts over and you build a new future together. Also, you now know how to treat someone, having experienced the previous relationship. Divorce is bad? Maybe not. Your innerself sought something better.

Number 2: You start to worry about loosing your job, and you do. The power behind the universe is impersonal. It gives you what you are paying attention to, just as a young mother or father gives a toddler an object to play with, after the child shows interest in that object.

Pretty simple, eh?

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by Angela

I see being underestimated as a serious advantage in life.

When I was going about buying a car for the first time, I was totally clueless about the process, and was getting none of the hoped-for help from my Dad, so I got the inspiration to exaggerate and play all-out dumb instead; presto-magico, the first salesman's guard came down, the faux price-negotiation began, and I knew it was time to go on to the next dealership

P.S. Now I'm going to spend the rest of the day wondering what Arboretor is

[Destine4destiny]

I know when I go in tomorrow my tail is going to be on fire I am going to speak my mind and nicely undermind them. I'm just going to keep cute, professional and simple.

[Acting Like Godot]

In this short little passage:

Originally Posted by tooshie

hi,
sorry but i disagree. in the world we live in power and money is respected. if you all happy and positive a lot of people are not going to take you seriously. They will under estimate you. Of course not all people will do this, some respect kindness and goodwill while others do not. So be street wise and realise who you can be kind to and who not. don't be a fool.

..... I see plenty of beliefs. Conscious beliefs, subconscious beliefs and unconscious beliefs.

And so that will be Tooshie's reality. A reality where:

- A person cannot be streetwise, and kind.
- A person cannot be poor and respected.
- A person cannot lack power and be respected.
- A person cannot be happy and taken seriously,
- A person cannot be positive and taken seriously.
- Happy people are underestimated.
- Sad or angry people are (presumably) overestimated.
- Respect matters more than kindness.
- Respect matters more than goodwill.

Tooshie, you see, is not wrong. He is perfectly right in his own reality. But the point - his beliefs create his own reality.

I have a different reality. I'm not saying that it is a better or worse reality. I am just saying that I have a different reality. In my reality:

- People who get underestimated are people who do not display their abilities and talents. It has nothing to do with whether you are happy/sad or positive/negative.

- People can be respected for all sorts of different things, other than power or money. Eg a person can be respected for being smart; for having artistic achievements; for being brave; for being wise; for being compassionate etc etc etc.

- Respect from other people is not particularly important. It is more important that you respect and love yourself. Being respected by 1,000 other people is useless if you secretly dislike yourself.

- People who are taken seriously are people who expect to be taken seriously. They have a habit of using a clear, firm tone and saying things like: "Everyone, listen carefully. There is an important matter we need to deal with. Please take it seriously." Once again, it has nothing to do with whether the person is happy or sad.

- I like kind people. I do not like unkind people. I would rather help a kind person, and offer him my support and friendship, than an unkind person. In general, I would just avoid unkind people.

[James81]

Bad things happen to all people. It has no bias for the lives it touches.

It's also damaging to think of those things as "bad" because, even in the worst of cases, good things can come of it.

We are looking at life from a limited perspective. All we see are the effects of an action on us and the people we deal with. We don't see the far-reaching effects of what happens and the countless other lives that are affected by the situation.

For example, a good-hearted, loving, christian man is stricken with cancer. We think to ourselves: "Man, such a good guy doesn't deserve that." But that man now meets new people at the hospital and has a chance to share his "message" with the people in the hospital, who he never would've seen otherwise. We call what happens to the man bad, but the potential lives he touches just by being at the hospital?

Everything that happens to us, even the worst of things, puts us on a new track....a new direction. Even if we don't see it. Even if we don't understand it.

[Destine4destiny]

Reading your post is a breath of fresh air and it puts my mind at ease. I know I finally realized that things that go wrong in my life are caused my me no other person can be blamed for it than me. I'm the cause of it all and I have to catch myself before things get out of hand.

[MacFly]

"Good" and "Bad" are concepts made by humans. The universe doesn't know these concepts, and doesn't work that way. So it can be really confusing if you try to understand why "bad" things happen to "good" people.

it is not hard to understand, you just have to think about how different people interpret "good" and "bad" differently. Some people feel they're "bad" because they forgot about a friend's birthday, and other people simply kill someone else and feel "good".

And NEVER FORGET : you never know if a "bad" thing wouldn't be the best thing in your life.

I grew up in a broken home, with so much family fights. Now, I'd never change it.

[Dreamline]

Why do bad things happen 2 good people?

Karma. There is no such thing as 'bad." Only learning experiences. If everyone would get busy learning life's lessons instead of working so hard to avoid them, we could all move on...

Jennifer

[themaster]

Originally Posted by Destine4destiny

Why is it that when people are good hearted people they come across the worst of the worst characters and worst things in life? How do you manifest good things to come your way? Our society has things so screwed up when you're respectful and humble people try to disrespect you but when your mean and wicked people adore you and worship the ground you walk on. I just don't get it , if anyone has the answer please feel free to get back to me.

Answers = yes

Will you understand = maybe..

I was just talking about this idea in another thread.. but I'll make another stab at it.. I guess..

There are a lot of things to understand but the first rule of what I call step 2 in the LOA process.. is taking responsibility for what you are creating.. if you can follow that thoughts effect reality and you see it; I always say then you learn..

That everything is planned?

So you’re asking questions about good and evil.. yes judgment is what that is.. the thing to do with things you label negative/bad/evil is to see them as neutral if you can because if you push against it..

I'm going to throw out the negative/lack idea here for example of wearing your seatbelt..

If you are a type of let's say fussy person.. you get in a car others ride with you and feel negative and chide others to wear their seatbelt cause you want them to have a safe ride.. that feeling of lack, that judgment is actually creating more problems than helping you.. you are re-enforcing in your reality every time a seatbelt issue comes up that to be safe you must have it on and you must be somewhat negative to others to feel safe about their travel..

The thing to do (and maybe this wasn't the best example) is to allow others to do what they want, not to judge others if they "ride around" without a seatbelt.. and definitely to not take action on a "negative" idea.. (in this case I was thinking of our negative/forceful seat belt laws )

Alright I'm done with my example.. I'll just try addressing questions directly now..

Why is it that when people are good hearted people they come across the worst of the worst characters and worst things in life?

Because "enlightment" growth etc. is to allow people to be evil to be bad.. you have to be allowing of them and yourself to advance this is my understanding.. if you push against those ideas they will flood into life in all forms.. and let's say you do have a bad experience.. when you do have a experience you want to label as negative.. you need to your damnest to not let it affect you..

My teachers phrase on this "Circumstances don't matter! Only state of being matters!!"

How do you manifest good things to come your way?

The true answer is by also allowing bad things to come your way.. but stating it is your PREFERENCE for this to happen or be this way..

Originally Posted by Destine4destiny

Our society has things so screwed up when you're respectful and humble people try to disrespect you but when your mean and wicked people adore you and worship the ground you walk on. I just don't get it , if anyone has the answer please feel free to get back to me.

Listen to your first sentence here.. your judging our society stop.. let them be at peace.. you be at peace.. be neutral.. allow neutral or positive perspectives to flow..

The answer is = Take responsibility for what your creating, understand that for a time longer (it will not be forever, we are in a time of true CHANGE) you will be exposed to experiences/ideas that our negative/lack in nature and try to appreciate that as best you can

[Destine4destiny]

Your words of wisdom and kindness is greatly appreciated. To be honest with you I've learned that my reality is created in my mind first and then played out in my life. Although I know this, it is a little bit difficult putting that into perspective when things I label bad happen to me. Sometimes you get around people and the good side of you never shows enough and they see the lack of in your character, and that is what frustrates me because I know who I am, I know that I am a smart balanced person but somehow that side of me is not seen unless you really get to know me and we hold a decent conversation, but off the bat, no you won't recognize this good quality about me. As of now, that is my issue with myself that I am trying to work on.

[themaster]

Originally Posted by Destine4destiny

Although I know this, it is a little bit difficult putting that into perspective when things I label bad happen to me.

Yah, I know.. I've had 1 bad experience in the last few months as a type of reminder.. and yah I understand that accepting responsibility isn't easy.. but if you can move past it quickly and hopefully neutrally/happily.. the next one may be a easier stride..

To be honest most of my life is crafted "easy" for me.. so my rare hang-ups/annoyances I get past easily but every once in a while

Originally Posted by Destine4destiny

Sometimes you get around people and the good side of you never shows enough and they see the lack of in your character, and that is what frustrates me because I know who I am, I know that I am a smart balanced person but somehow that side of me is not seen unless you really get to know me and we hold a decent conversation, but off the bat, no you won't recognize this good quality about me. As of now, that is my issue with myself that I am trying to work on.

Well, a simple thing is to "not give a ♥♥♥♥♥ what others think" countless ideas of this type exist in our society.. you should really try and do that first.. if a person doesn't like you, is rubbed the wrong way by you.. that's their problem, it was never yours in the first place.. don't make it yours by attempting to reconcile "who you are" to match their expectations.

I'm not going to again say it's "easy" cause in this for me it is not..

If a person is feeling negative and there a person you care about a friend/relative/loved one/whatever.. You have to set a example to not be any less then who you are, you have to remain true to you and let them deal with their own issues.. in seems in most cases it's not even worth it to point out there negative or goad/remind them as it just makes it worse for them..

I'm not telling you what to be but I suggest you not care what others think about you.. that you not be any less then who you are based on another’s judgments.. for when they feel negative it is they who lack not you.. as long as you feel neutral/positive in any direction your going your headed the right way

[Destine4destiny]

You really lifted my spirit up to an imagenable height. I just have to say thank you so much for doing that because I was feeling down and out but that's just how life is sometimes you're up and sometimes you're down. At the end of the day you have to be true to yourself and stay focus despite all the other distractions in life that might throw you off. When undesirable things happen to me I always say that's the devil messing with me again, I say that to keep my sanity so that things won't bother me as much.

[downthesun]

Originally Posted by Destine4destiny

Why is it that when people are good hearted people they come across the worst of the worst characters and worst things in life?

Karma spans many lifetimes. We are constantly creating new karma, which may not come to fruition until our next life. A good hearted person may not have been in a previous life. You must realize even a good hearted person creates bad karma.

[Destine4destiny]

Originally Posted by downthesun

Karma spans many lifetimes. We are constantly creating new karma, which may not come to fruition until our next life. A good hearted person may not have been in a previous life. You must realize even a good hearted person creates bad karma.

How is it that a good hearted person creates bad karma when what you do is said to always come back to you that's why living a good balanced life is essential to survive here on earth. Can it be that the devil is messing with me so that I can stray from my true purpose in life and be a negative person.

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by Destine4destiny

How is it that a good hearted person creates bad karma when what you do is said to always come back to you

Oh he would have done some bad stuff in a previous lifetime and the karma was still unexpressed at the time he died, therefore it carries over to this lifetime.

[TonyToneTone]

I was thinking about this thread and came across this in my reading, it's from Dr. Thurman Fleet's Rays of the Dawn in the chapter on "Patience":

"As we each become cognizant of our part in the Divine Plan, we cheerfuly accept our obligations - and with patience and perserverance perform our allotted tasks. We then realize that the guiding light may often be dimmed by our restricted vision and that many things, which appear painful, are in reality designed for our own good - in order to grow and advance. Then we have the faith, hope, patience, and courage to struggle onward, because we know that we are on the path that is built unerringly along the course of the Laws of Life."

So in other words, it's for them to grow and improve.

[Destine4destiny]

I got it now TonyToneTone! Because I was sitting back thinking about how does a good hearted person create bad Karma but now it makes sense. You have to experience the different steps of life to be a good, patient,non-judgemental human being. I, in a way did understand this but you know when you're going through your issues your mind becomes polluted by what is going on and you lose focus just a little. So I am not going to stress myself out, it is all part of the flaws I have that I am working on to be the best me I can be.