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06-08-2009, 10:31 PM
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See yourself having something? I have a habit of seeing myself in 3'rd person view (You know, when visualizing) As if it was a movie, The person I see is definitely me. But Im not visualizing as myself. But a third party. Make sense? I've recently tried to visualize from 1st person view. I close my eyes and then open them in my mind. It feels very robotic and forced, it's also more difficult but I notice that I get a much stronger emotional response when doing so. It's like a crappy VR simulation. How do you visualize yourself? What are your experiences? (hopefully this will be helpful to others as well!) Last edited by JacksEarth; 06-09-2009 at 09:00 AM. |
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06-09-2009, 03:22 AM
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This is a really interesting question! Can you imagine what it would feel like if you had the thing you wanted? Maybe that would help. I can see your point about seeing it like it was a movie instead of in 1st person. I think I try to do both. I have heard it's more effective if you can do it as yourself, but I'm sure the movie helps as well. I bet if you just keep practicing, even if it's harder and takes more time, you will just keep getting better and better at it. |
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06-10-2009, 08:36 PM
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Hi.. this is my first post.. I think that this is a very interesting topic. Whenever I do my visualizations it's first person and I actually have trouble visualizing the 3rd person scenario (when I'm actually watching myself as a bystander)... I don't really know what this means. I have tried visualizations in 3rd person but for some reason it's harder and the images are not very clear, whereas in first person everything is extremely sharp and real. I think first person seems a lot stronger for me personally, because I'm actually carrying out the actions myself and can feel the pleasure of completing whatever goal it is. I wonder if there's a difference and which one is better? Oddly enough... some of my smaller intentions have come to fruition and with these I wasn't really part of the scene at all. Example.. I visualized manifesting $100 and I didn't see myself being happy or anything... I just visualized the dollar amount... and that it already belonged to me and it would just show up. A few days later it actually did. I really wish I knew the answer of which one was better. I've been trying to do a little bit of both. But first person is easier for me.. nothing has happened yet.. but I do feel that it's mine... I just need some time to align. Lots of synchs and stuff... |
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06-10-2009, 10:57 PM
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In 3rd person, I see everything as clear as day. But in first person, I cant make out what's around me. Its usually just me walking in blackness and then the thing that I want to manifest. I try to imagine a surrounding and it turns into color blobs! Man I wish I had synchs.. | |
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06-10-2009, 11:53 PM
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It is a common sort of failure. Even among people who say that they do have synchs, many do not understand that many more synchs are occurring in their everyday lives, than they recognise and acknowledge as such. You see - this is what most people usually regard as synchs: They think about something somewhat unusual, or different, or uncommon. Then a series of three or four somewhat unusual, or different, or uncommon events occur in their lives, which are related to their thoughts. Eg they think about blue feathers, and then suddenly they see a book cover with a blue feather; they bump into a friend who has a blue feather in her hat; they sit in a park and they find a blue feather on the ground. Synchs, however, are really just events in the universe that occur in response to your thoughts - whether your thoughts are unusual, different, uncommon or not. When you start examining this perspective, you will understand that every day, the universe brings into your life a steady, continual, endless flow of synchs, in response to your thoughts. Since your most common thoughts are probably fairly everyday and mundane, most synchs that occur in your life are probably fairly everyday and mundane ... and THEREFORE you do not recognise them as such. Once you start to recognise them as such, then you will see that your external reality is actually having an endless interaction with your internal reality. You attracted everything in your reality, you see. Not just a blue feather here, a blue feather there. But everything. That's why every event is a synch, really. | |
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06-11-2009, 02:54 AM
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For me first person just seems easier because that's how we live our lives everyday... you're going through your day making coffee or driving to work or whatever. You don't really see yourself doing these things through somebody else's eyes, they are your own. So when you visualize just pretend it's something you would normally do... how would that look?? Maybe go through the motions for real to get a good picture in your head to work off of... it might make it easier for you. Ex: So if you want that dream house then find luxurious model homes and walk through them for real.. touching everything you like, take in the scent, feel the sun warming you when your standing by the pool or whatever... remember how it feels (then take pieces of whatever you liked and re-create it when you visualize). It might be easier since you've already been there in real life. I'm no expert at all but that's what i do if i'm not familiar with the experience and it's something I would like to create. | |
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06-11-2009, 10:51 AM
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But honestly I look at myself in 3rd person in real life as well. Thats how I can better judge situations, I can laugh at myself when I accidentally hurt myself. My life becomes a sitcom. And I do this automatically. I perceive things through another perspective. As if I was controlling a Sim or something. Right now im trying to see my desk infront of me through my own eyes and its not working.. blobs.. another blob, that could be my mouse. Then, I try to do it as a bystander.. Yep, every detail was covered. Everything seems so unreal when looking through my own eyes. It should be the other way around though  Acting Like Godot - So everything that happens is a synch. Then finding the right synch is the next problem. I'm not consciously thinking about all the things going on right now. I'm aware of them, but im not thinking activly about them. So finding the synchs for what I am activly thinking about is what I'm after I guess. So thinking about finding/having these synchs should in theory make me find synchs! | |
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06-11-2009, 12:03 PM
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For many people, synchs are just part of a learning process. They are toying with and testing the idea that their mind creates their reality. They think about blue feathers or polka dots or dragons, just to see whether blue feathers, polka dots and dragons will really pop up in their reality. But of course they will. AFTER that, why would you still want to see synchs? It's important to understand that synchs are generally not little clues and signals from a Greater, Wiser Power, that you should do this or do that or take a particular path in life. Synchs are just an automatic reaction from the universe, to your thoughts. That is all. There is not necessarily any deeper message in your synchs. Eg suppose you wonder whether you should continue to stay where you are, or emigrate to Japan. You start thinking a lot about Japan. Then the universe sends you an entire series of synchs about Japan - you win an air ticket to Japan in a lucky draw; a Japanese language school opens near your home; you see a documentary about Japanese culture on TV; a Japanese family moves in next door to your home. These are NOT signs from the universe that you should emigrate to Japan. These are merely synchs generated and created by YOUR own thoughts. Some of them may pave the way for you to end up in Japan - but they are NOT a secret wise message from the all-powerful universe that you are required to go to Japan. It's entirely up to you. Last edited by Acting Like Godot; 06-11-2009 at 12:08 PM. | |
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06-11-2009, 01:42 PM
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Exactly! to answer the question, I want synchs to see if this is actually working. As you said.. play around. When I think about having a happy day, odds are. I wont. Or if I think about a blue feather, odds are I wont see one. But that was before I got into this whole new perspective. So knowing what I know now, thinking in the way that I do now. It could have a different effect because the variables have changed. And I guess you gotta start small. With like a 'blue feather' and not earning $3000 dollars in a month. Which actually doesn't make sense to me. I dont see why you couldn't make 4million dollars in 5minutes. I dont know how, but I dont see why not. So in theory, It shouldnt matter -what- I focus on. And the synchs are referred to as "signs" that you are getting what you are thinking of. So if I focus on having $3000, I should see something that relates to it, and eventually actually have the money. And time, is irrelevant. It -should- happen instantly. The most common thing in comparing big to small is that $1 takes less -time- to obtain than $3000. But I honestly believe that time is an illusion. I was actually quite surprised when I read that Einstein was theorizing on the same subject. So it shouldn't matter how big my intent is. Since everything is happening -now- .. agh, now im confusing myself.. How long does something take to manifest? As long as it takes for you to believe it as much as you believe the sun will rise every morning. I guess its fear of getting hurt and being disappointed that creates that doubt in the first place. Some handle it better than others. You don't doubt that the sun will rise every morning. |
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06-11-2009, 02:28 PM
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Manifestations can and often do happen very quickly. (rinse and repeat this thought as necessary) I just had the thought a few days ago about some friends contacting me from my past. No more than three days later I get 2 friend requests on facebook from friends I haven't seen, heard from or thought about in like 18 years. One stated my name came up in a conversation while they were playing golf. ALG, Your last 2 posts totally resonate with me lately. It seems to make more and more sense, the more I think about it... It's like you said earlier, if one can start to inject new thoughts into the repetitive pattern, then he/she should start to notice those thoughts becoming part of their reality. Noticing is a big part here... Notice how the thoughts connect with external reality. No deity fulfilling requests, but more like a self regulating system that one can improve their control in. |
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06-11-2009, 04:42 PM
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06-12-2009, 12:02 AM
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For example, getting 4 million dollars in 5 minutes will probably change your home; your career; your relationships; your hobbies etc. Yet all those things are being sustained in their current form, by your thoughts and beliefs about them. You understand? This is why "big" changes are usually more difficult than "small" changes. The emergence of a blue feather does not change your home; your career; your relationships; your hobbies etc. Thus, in emerging, it does not have to contend with all your thoughts and beliefs about your home; your career; your relationships; your hobbies etc. But a thought like earning 4 million dollars in 5 minutes ... does. | |
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06-12-2009, 12:12 AM
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Now everything feels so limiting :S Ugh. But yeah okay.. I get what you're saying, really. A little disappointed but it'll pass. Thx | |
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06-12-2009, 02:14 AM
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I woke in the morning, turned on the computer, and read your post about old friends. Quote:
Then I turned off the computer, got dressed, had breakfast and took the train to work. At one stop, the doors opened, a guy walked in and stood literally in front of me. I emphasise literally, I didn't have to take a single step to get to him, I could just tap him on the shoulder. Yep ..... An old friend! He used to be my neighbour when I stayed in a students hostel when I was in college/university. Last time I had met him was about 12 years ago. We exchanged telephone numbers, talked a bit and then I had to get off. We promised to get together for lunch. ---------------- This is how quickly the universe can work. You think about old friends, even generically, and the universe brings one to you, 20 minutes later. Doesn't matter that you had never met him even once in the past 12 years. | ||
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06-12-2009, 06:50 PM
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On having or not having synchs: people say they want synchs and that they want all these manifestations, but if you aren't prepared they can "rock your world" to the point that you are scared of your own thoughts. It can be a weird and disturbing experience to have a strong synch that you recognize for what it is. I usually enjoy them and take them for granted, but they still weird me out from time to time. If you aren't ready, you will not make much use of them, or ENJOY them, when they happen. Don't forget... we have practiced being who we are for years. There has got to be TONS of inner resistance, probably subconscious, that is not going to enjoy having its model of reality flipped upside down, even if the consequences would be beneficial. In my view, the best way to get your subconscious worldview to be open to bigger synchs, to abundance, prosperity, success, love, etc., is to be in a calm place, that has learned to enjoy the idea that the world works this way, with your thoughts being reflected back to you. Like I said, choose your thoughts, or vibrations, wisely. Last edited by cylon; 06-12-2009 at 06:56 PM. | |
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06-23-2009, 08:12 PM
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Don is teaching Richard how to manifest a blue feather ... "Imagine the feather. Visualise it, every line and edge of it, the tip, V-splits where it's torn, fluff around the quill. Just for a minute. Then let it go. He goes on ... "Surround it in gold light, if you want. That's a healing thing, to help make it real, but it works in magnetizing too." Richard did all of this and was excited to see a Mack Truck with a Blue Feather advert on it. Don ( The Teacher ) questions ... "I thought you wanted the actual feather. Did you see the feather all alone, or were you holding it?" "Alone," Richard replied. Don concludes ... "That explains it. If you want to be with what you're magnetizing, you have to put yourself in the picture, too." I went looking for this book, because a poster on a different forum ( powerful intentions ) commented on it - saying that it was all he had ever needed to know about manifesting ( even though it is written as a novel :-) |
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06-24-2009, 01:29 AM
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No, not really. You can put yourself in the picture by imagining that you're really there, looking at the scene through your own eyes, holding a feather in your hand, touching it etc. It helps to move your hands as you're doing this. Really. |
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06-24-2009, 03:14 AM
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I've visualized in both 3rd person and 1st person. For me, 1st person occurs when I'm highly motivated and passionate. Kim Self Improvement and Motivation Fuel-My-Motivation.com |
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06-24-2009, 04:02 AM
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I am in no position to speak to the truth of the matter, but I've reread that book often, hoping to find the key I felt I was always blindly blowing past, and wondering what became of my own personal Don Shimoda (mere months after introducing me to IM/LoA concepts, my acquaintance seemed to vanish, with only a handful of archived posts on various boards left to remind me I didn't imagine it all). Last edited by Wax Frog; 06-24-2009 at 04:05 AM. | |
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06-24-2009, 05:34 AM
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Hi Wax Frog I have to confess, I haven't done a minutes visualisation with real intent my entire life ... not that I can recall. The theory excites me, but I am yet to be moved into action. Truth is, I don't really know what I want. I am a terrible seed digger. I believe it is powerful stuff, but I have been a little too scared to dabble, I guess. Don't know why? It's a bit of the old 'Careful what you wish for, you just might get it!" thing. Almost feel ready to give this a REAL go, now though. Got really excited about the Permission Slip thing the other day. Finally feeling like I could do the betting thing if I really wanted to. And then, no sooner had I felt okay about it, a wave of reluctance came over me. I had registered a domain name ( racebook.me.uk ), hoping to catch a ride on the facebook brand, designed it in a very similar fashion, but then the heart stopped driving me? All my life I have been buying JOURNALs. Hundreds sit empty, waiting for me to start writing. But no pen yet :-) I feel an urge to scribble, but not sure what about yet. I have WRITTEN goals before, which seemed to work very well :-) Sorry to ramble, but this is kinda doing something for me. Think I need to buy that Journal Software Steve Pavlina promotes. Anybody else use it? |
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06-24-2009, 05:40 AM
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I am beginning to think that it really is just about the belief you attach to your method. I was thinking long and hard one day, when I suddenly started to entertain the idea of asking THREE TIMES. Ask with mind, body and soul. Through the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. And the threesomes continued. I literally started to SHAKE! And the concept of asking in RHYME! It just kept VOICING it. It really was the strangest vibration. I had to SIT! | |
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06-24-2009, 05:55 AM
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Logically speaking, I ought not be afraid! My true nature will inevitably prove to be whatever it is, whether I fight or ignore or accept it, so I may as well face it, to the best of my ability. I might as well learn if I really am this Powerful Creator. No time like the present  Quote:
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06-24-2009, 07:35 PM
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If I wanted to manifest a specific car ... 1) I would book a test drive 2) Drive playing my favourite soundtrack 3) Chew or suck on a specific sweet 4) Engage all senses ( Sounds, Smells, Touch, Taste, Sights ) 5) View VisionBoard with soundtrack playing ( to put me back in state ) ( Includes pictures, colours, fabrics ) A bit like a room design I suppose. 6) Chew or suck same sweet Remember not to break any speed limits or park on a double yellow line!  |
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