Do some people have an easier time with LoA?

[Bradshaw]

For those who don't know what i'm talking about: Enneagram Types

Anyway, i somewhat get the feeling that some Enneagram Types have a much easier time with LoA & I-M than others.

Particularly 4's, 5's and 9's. These three types are also known as the introverted trio.

I'm a Type 4, which basically means that it is very natural and easy for me to visualize and imagine things. When i knew nothing about manifesting i would often continuously visualize and think and imagine and dramatize negative things and of course they showed up. Heck, that still happens from time to time, but much more rarely.

Type 5's have a very natural tendency to attempt to understand all of reality, and some of them will of course eventually look into LoA.

Type 9's also have a natural tendency to attempt to understand reality, although, being fairly easygoing and lazy, they may go at it in a more relaxed, detached manner(which in a lot of ways is a good thing).

I would also argue that a great percentage of the people in these forums are one of these 3 types.

Type 6's, i believe, are the people who will usually doubt the LoA all the way. These are the skeptics(which is why we should be a little considerate of them. It is their nature to be suspicious and questioning.)

Type 7's are also such naturally scattered people that they probably will just take a tiny look over the concept of I-M and forget about it.

The other types will of course use LoA, consciously or unconciously but i think that the introverted types are the ones who really try to understand it deeply.

Everyone has the ability to change their thinking, but i do think some people are just better at it than others.

What do you all think?

[Judge]

Do some people have an easier time with LoA?

No one has it easier or harder.

Your intentions are all there is.

The Law of Attraction

The sooner you realise this, the less questions you will need to ask

Judge

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by Bradshaw

Type 5's have a very natural tendency to attempt to understand all of reality, and some of them will of course eventually look into LoA.

I'm a Type 5.

[TonyToneTone]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

I'm a Type 5.

Ha! Figures. I saw you had posted on here and the first thing I thought was "Acting Like Godot seems to have an easier time with the LOA."

Bradshaw, I haven't tried the Enneagram types so I can't comment on that. Interesting point though. I like how you took a scientific approach to it.

[Holistic Star]

I recently did an Ennegram test and I came out as a type 6. I read the description of this paranoid, authority fearful person and thought, that's not like me at all!

But when I looked into it more and particularly read about how the types are formed in childhood, that really resonated with that. I also have a very strong 7 wing, so have a very positive outlook, more so that your average 6.

Interestingly, a type 6 will be very skeptical, but once they've found something to be loyal to, they are 100% behind it. That's me to a T! I was very skeptical of LOA and other (woo-woo ) alternative theories, until I had personally experienced it for myself. Now I'm your go-to girl on the subject! However even in the alternative realm, when I get introduced to a new subject I hold off embracing it until I have thoroughly checked it out for myself. Just because I'm open-minded, doesn't mean I have to let everything in!

So I'm guessing I'm throwing a spanner in the works here - because here's one type 6 that loves the LOA (even though I haven't quite mastered it yet!)

Also a self-actualised type 7, is going to be a very positive person so will naturally draw to themselves positive experiences. (LoA in action, even if they are not doing it consciously). Where they will get into trouble is when they are not funtioning healthily and deny all negative feelings without processing them which means they will be unconsciously be vibrating at more negative levels but not know why they aren't getting the results they want.

[Daffy Duck]

I haven't done the test yet, but just based on your descriptions, I might be a Type 9. I care about understanding reality, but I care more about just enjoying it. I don't need to understand electricity to use the lightswitch.

[What3ver]

I'm type 4 aswell. Can't visualize and not having an easy time.

[MagicalRealist]

I'ma 5 with a strong 4 wing. The first time I encountered the LoA was maybe 20 years ago, and to say I did not take to it right away is an understatement. I tried it, it "didn't work," and it took me another 18 years to finally get it.

In my experience, one's Enneagram type in itself neither helps nor hinders. All types are equally capable of using the LoA. My mom is a 6w7; my dad's a 7w8; my grandfather was an 8w7--and all three of them have discovered the LoA by various means, used it in various forms, and have done so successfully.

As a 5w4, I'm good at visualization--I'm an artist, I have no trouble with this. I have the classic 5 skepticism and desire for logical coherency, but I also get a strongly intuitive bent from the 4 wing that serves as a counterbalance. (Plus, Fives are weird; many of us are open to trying out odd, woo-woo ideas just to see if they will work.)

Where my Enneagram type hindered my ability to use the LoA didn't come from the essence of either type, but rather from the negative thought patterns that go along with each type.

Unless they make conscious effort to overcome it, Fives (especially the Self-preservation subtype) tend to be stingy. At worst, they are misers, hoarders, and recluses. Giving freely of money, time, attention, or love is not a natural impulse for Fives (though they will give you a hyperabundance of information on their favorite subjects).

It's very common for Fives to spend a small fortune on things that pertain to their intellectual interests, and do so without a second thought--while at the same time being obsessive tightwads when it comes to everything else. Dropping $400 on an obscure out-of-print book that still hasn't shown up online is no big deal, but spending $40 on a pair of jeans seems like a major expense.

That stinginess? That doesn't help at all when you're trying to use the LoA. So one of the biggest challenges for Fives is to learn to let money flow outward, to stop clinging, to relax and know that there is always more coming. And it isn't just their money that they need to relax and let flow outward--donating their time and energy, freely giving away their expertise, learning to connect to other people (both as individuals and in a universal sense) all make a big difference.

Fours, on the other hand, can fall into self-pity, and remain too focused on everything they don't have. Lamenting the lost love; wondering why all those stupid, shallow, herdlike people have it all and they don't; feeling alone and misunderstood because of their sensitive nature; wishing the world weren't such a hard, ugly place. There is a tendency to idealize the wonderful, beautiful future life they are going to have--while at the same time resenting their present circumstances for being so wretchedly mundane. Their lives will be wonderful later, when everything finally falls into place, but for now there's more goddamned laundry to do, and the catbox needs cleaning, and when will it ever end?

(If Fives are crazy cat ladies, Fours are emo kids.)

Fours are great at dreaming up the things they want, but they tend to have serious problems being happy right now. They also tend to fall into the trap of believing that they can't be truly happy until they get whatever it is they are dreaming of. When their dreams come true, then they will be happy, but in the meantime they will just muddle through. And that inability to be happy in the present, and that sense of not-having whatever it is they desire, can seriously derail Fours' abilities to use the LoA.

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

I'm a Type 5.

I am shocked. SHOCKED, I tell you!

[Holistic Star]

I wonder if Steve is a 5.

(although I don't think he is a crazy cat lady!).


What I'm getting from this thread is, the more self-actualised each type is, the easier they find the LoA. The more pathological, the less they accept it and can act on its principles.

[SimonaRich]

LOA works the same way in everyone's lives, but if you want to intentionally use LOA, then those that have less limiting beliefs find it easier to intentionally manifest their desires.

[Rossoneri]

That test was interesting:
My highest was 6 points and that was on type 5 and 6
And second highest was 5 points on 3/4/9

LOA works great for me. I just gathered the information and internalized it and now it's all done subconscoiously

[Chapter V]

Originally Posted by Bradshaw

Type 5's have a very natural tendency to attempt to understand all of reality, and some of them will of course eventually look into LoA.

Yup.. That's me.

A tricky test, though.

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by Chapter V

Yup.. That's me.

A tricky test, though.

I like that 5 is strongly associated with this topic, whatever my own type might prove to be...

[Acting Like Godot]

Type 5's do have a big advantage in learning and using the LOA.

They are natural explorers, of ideas and concepts. And they tend to explore very deeply.

Type 5's do not necessarily accept an idea just because it appears on the surface to be very plausible or because society usually regards the idea as correct. Importantly, Type 5's also will not necessarily reject an idea just because it is strange, weird or unconventional.

You can see the importance of this, in learning the LOA.

Suppose you say to a friend, "Look at this cup of coffee on the table. Actually, it isn't really there. It's mostly just empty space, and composed of very small particles rapidly blinking in and out of existence. And whether it;s there or not really depends on whether I'm here to observe it."

Most of your friends will laugh and think you'e joking or stupid. But a Type 5 friend is the kind of person most likely to say seriously:

"Really? What makes you say that? How could that be? Is this cup not real? Why do you think it isn't real? Are you serious? Tell me more".

Type 5's take few things for granted, even the evidence of their own senses. They always seek deeper understanding. Because the LOA is so counter-intuitive and weird, Type 5's are well-placed to learn and apply it. The weirdness of the LOA will not put off or discourage the Type 5; the weirdness of the LOA merely makes it a more worthy object of investigation, for the Type 5.

[Simcha]

I took the quick test - came out as a 5, 7, or 9 - based upon what I read above I am leaning towards the 5 - love to really feel into things - and I don't take anything for granted

cup - what cup?

[Wax Frog]

According to the quick test, most likely a 4,5, or 6...

[Dreamline]

Excellent post, Bradshaw. I think you may be onto something.

Jennifer