"Energizing" a Visualization

[Wax Frog]

For those using the method of visualizing a manifestation target while holding a good feeling about it:

• Is it necessary to work up a great deal of excitement, or is it enough to simply feel positive?
  
• I find I am somewhat less ecstatic (but still happy) about my current target, as I've been using it for about two weeks now; is it effective to get excited about a different thought, then hold that feeling while switching back to the target thought?

[ChrisDP]

Iv been naturally visualising for a long time i tend to get a sudden new idea towards something and i picture myself talking about its success and what its about on a talk show. It doesn't sound like i am trying to sell this idea to the audience i am telling them this is how i came to this idea and this is how it took off to what it is now in its completed form. if i hit a snag and cant find a solution the whole interview gets reworded or reworked.

My ego tends to get its meal from the thought of being on tv and being popular meanwhile i am actually running through thoroughly what i my complete intention is. If it isn't working ill end up forgetting it until the next jolt of inspiration in which the process is energised.

I find it is a sort of excitement involved because when i think of being on a talk show im not trying to sell something. Its me expressing my desires strait to the audience on the other side of the camera. You could do it with a number of subjects for example the host could comment on looking much healthier. All of a sudden im picturing explain to the audience my change in diet and the type of exercise im doing and how its doing great for me.

As to switching thoughts i don't know. My visualisation is on auto pilot when the ideas first manifest i end up entertaining the ideas in this specific visualisation. The idea then drops when progress slows and just gets picked back up again when i get new inspiration on progressing it. I know in times when i have been neglecting my visualisations i tend to think of how i told everyone on air how things were and now there not doing so well. Usually i just see the audiance cheering me on to get my momentum back.

[cylon]

If you're passionate about something, and half-way believe you can have that something, just thinking about it for a few seconds should automatically make you feel good, after all it's something you want. If you don't think you can have that thing, I wouldn't focus on trying to feel better about that thing, I would look for ways to get rid of the belief that I couldn't have it, as it's probably affecting other aspects of life as well.

Think of it this way, if you get overly excited, that sort of shows you weren't expecting to get it. Like when the Publisher's clearing house people knock on someone's door with a million dollar check (or whatever it is) those people are jumping up and down and freaking out because they never in a zillion years thought something like that could actually happen to them.

Contrast this with something like knowing that tomorrow you'll be going to Disneyland or having a date with a cutie, it's something you look forward to and have positive anticipation for, but it isn't necessarily overwhelming because you already know it's going to happen.

[Wax Frog]

Irony: deciding to visualize more replies to the OP...

I'm not looking for a "right answer" here, just a range of opinions to ruminate over.

[Strem2]

Originally Posted by Wax Frog

For those using the method of visualizing a manifestation target while holding a good feeling about it:

• Is it necessary to work up a great deal of excitement, or is it enough to simply feel positive?
  
• I find I am somewhat less ecstatic (but still happy) about my current target, as I've been using it for about two weeks now; is it effective to get excited about a different thought, then hold that feeling while switching back to the target thought?

I am currently finding that my intuition/higher self is excited about my goals...

How I know is that I am getting tremendous numbers of nudges to do this or that. My understanding is that once you start to notice the nudges, and act on them or make commitments, then the intuitive nudges step up for you.

That's all I know right now.

[nightdiamond]

Hi wax Frog

I can only give you my example of a past experience, or some ideas I've come across

Once I experimented with remote influencing, where I sent a message, "relationship" , "I only want to have fun now" " I just want to feel" ,

Late at night, I "broadcasted" the message out to anyone, anywhere just to see what would, or could happen.

But in addition, I also did some breathing expercises where you breathe and build up energy to the point where you feel it, then I released it (exhaled) along with those messages.

The next day or a few hours later actually, I met someone at my job (customer) who asked me out, and kept saying, " it doesn't have to be serious, you have a friend now"

I still feel skeptical about it, yet it was such a coincidence!

The other idea I spoke about, is from a book from a Klaus Joehle, where he talks about sending love towards anything or anyone to manifest what you want. First you create or generate a feeling of love, then send it towards what you want, even other objects.

I have no idea if this really works or not, he claims it does, others have also, and his book his free, so who knows...

[Lana]

The other idea I spoke about, is from a book from a Klaus Joehle, where he talks about sending love towards anything or anyone to manifest what you want. First you create or generate a feeling of love, then send it towards what you want, even other objects.

I have no idea if this really works or not, he claims it does, others have also, and his book his free, so who knows...

This is a nice synch for me I read the book again yesterday on an impulse.
5 months before I was led to that link where you can read the book, I read it all in one night and for the following weeks I was in a state of not worrying so much, being more open, being more in the Present and having my heart... expanded in some way - I don't know how to describe it.

I was surprised at how strong an impact did a single book have on me, a book that was for free and came from "nowhere" at a point in my life when I was ready to receive its message.

The most important things are simple after all, and we tend to forget this, being lost in analyzations and inner mind-conflicts.
(If anyone is interested, the book is here Books on Love by Klaus Joehle. Free download)

[joelr]

I usually do what most LOA teachers seem to suggest which is to feel the exact feeling you would have if your manifestation was a real thing/event. Somewhat like creating movies of things you would be doing and feeling with your manifestation.
I think the more emotion you feel during that visualization may increase it's power. Or at least something similar to the level of emotion you would feel if it were real.
If you're working on a relationship, that's a thing that usually causes huge bursts of initial emotion - lot's of natural endorphins, dyorphins, opiates etc..
I think it makes sense to create that same energy during visualization.

Is that a requirement? Don't know.

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by Lana

(If anyone is interested, the book is here Books on Love by Klaus Joehle. Free download)

Hey, I did put out the intention Thank you!

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by joelr

I usually do what most LOA teachers seem to suggest which is to feel the exact feeling you would have if your manifestation was a real thing/event. Somewhat like creating movies of things you would be doing and feeling with your manifestation.

That strikes the root of the matter. My target is something I'd have definite use for/benefit from, but it isn't exactly the stuff of jumping around and hollering (though I of course just might do something of the sort at the moment of manifestation ). The feeling it gives me is positive but rather mild. Indeed, a major reason I chose this target is precisely because the desirability of it doesn't stray into yearning territory. That's why I was toying with the idea of 'bait-and-switch' excitement.

[joelr]

Originally Posted by Wax Frog

That strikes the root of the matter. My target is something I'd have definite use for/benefit from, but it isn't exactly the stuff of jumping around and hollering (though I of course just might do something of the sort at the moment of manifestation ). The feeling it gives me is positive but rather mild. Indeed, a major reason I chose this target is precisely because the desirability of it doesn't stray into yearning territory. That's why I was toying with the idea of 'bait-and-switch' excitement.

I'm not sure about bait and switch.
I haven't really worked with anything that didn't have a strong emotional attachment to it so I'm not sure about that area.
Although I have seen things that I wasn't visualizing on but had somewhat obsessive thoughts about show up in very synchronistic ways.

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by joelr

I'm not sure about bait and switch.
I haven't really worked with anything that didn't have a strong emotional attachment to it so I'm not sure about that area.
Although I have seen things that I wasn't visualizing on but had somewhat obsessive thoughts about show up in very synchronistic ways.

For whatever it may prove to be worth, I find that if I have a thought I can get excited about, I am able to largely carry that excitement over into my target visualization...

Assuming belief is at all relevant, I don't want any ideas I have about "cheating" spilling over and interfering, but at the same time I don't want to rob my meditations of any available potency.

Unless I'm given good reason not to, I think I will just keep rolling with the "cheat" method. Given the unknowns of LoA, I suppose there can be no answer to my dilemma other than the one I find for myself

[joelr]

Originally Posted by Wax Frog

For whatever it may prove to be worth, I find that if I have a thought I can get excited about, I am able to largely carry that excitement over into my target visualization...

Assuming belief is at all relevant, I don't want any ideas I have about "cheating" spilling over and interfering, but at the same time I don't want to rob my meditations of any available potency.

Unless I'm given good reason not to, I think I will just keep rolling with the "cheat" method. Given the unknowns of LoA, I suppose there can be no answer to my dilemma other than the one I find for myself

Exactly. Go for it!

[TonyToneTone]

Originally Posted by Wax Frog

For those using the method of visualizing a manifestation target while holding a good feeling about it:

• Is it necessary to work up a great deal of excitement, or is it enough to simply feel positive?
  
• I find I am somewhat less ecstatic (but still happy) about my current target, as I've been using it for about two weeks now; is it effective to get excited about a different thought, then hold that feeling while switching back to the target thought?

I'd say let it be natural. If it feels like you're forcing it, switch to something else that makes you feel good. The main point is to keep your vibration in alignment with how you would feel if your visualization were to come true.

You could be petting your cat for what it's worth and if your vibe was one of joy and happiness, you would be in line to attract your former visualization to you.

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by TonyToneTone

You could be petting your cat for what it's worth and if your vibe was one of joy and happiness, you would be in line to attract your former visualization to you.

So the "strange good feeling" is paramount, the visualization is secondary, in your view?

[TonyToneTone]

Originally Posted by Wax Frog

So the "strange good feeling" is paramount, the visualization is secondary, in your view?

Yeah. Once you've set an intention, it's set, such as planting a seed. The reason you keep refocusing on it is because:

1. As you focus on it more it becomes clearer increasing your vibe.
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2. It puts you again in that good feeling vibe so that your vibration matches up to attract it.

If you've already intended it though, you could be doing anything that feels good that matches that vibe and be attracting it to you.

I hope that's clear.

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by TonyToneTone

I hope that's clear.

Clear as glass - thank you!

[TonyToneTone]

Originally Posted by Wax Frog

Clear as glass - thank you!

You're welcome!

[ArthurHung]

* Is it necessary to work up a great deal of excitement, or is it enough to simply feel positive?

It's a good question. And one of degree. And the universe likes variety. So everything is acceptable. And degrees, are variety. Let's look at it from a different example. In a relationship, would it "be enough" to only ever get hugs from your partner? Or would it be necessary to have sex? Or, in war? Would it be enough to papercut one of their soldiers? Or is it necessary, to do some real damage? Whatever your goal is to manifest, the level of positive emotion you're able to bring to it determines the degree of speed and power for that manifestation.

* I find I am somewhat less ecstatic (but still happy) about my current target, as I've been using it for about two weeks now; is it effective to get excited about a different thought, then hold that feeling while switching back to the target thought?

Again, all things can be effected and again, it is a matter of degree. The key, is to do what feels right largely because certain feelings or "techniques" are difficult or impossible to access depending on one's vibration. So, something with a high degree of effectiveness would be to access elation, ecstasy, excitement and eager anticipation for a prolonged time on a focused goal. This however, may not feel right, as it may be too far from your vibration. Perhaps, all you can manage, is to get excited about another thought and practice transferring that feeling to the new goal. Hopefully, the difference in degrees in these 2 examples is understandable.

You're a smart person, trust your feelings, do what feels right.

[Diandra25]

hi Waxy!!!!!

Do whatever feels good to you,and you are always on your right track.

seek your horseshoes hihihi

[Wax Frog]

Update/question:

In the previously-referenced set of free e-books, the author uses the figure of 3.6 million as a target for money manifestation.

Just a short while ago, I noticed an ad in the sweepstakes-affiliated search window I have set as one of my homepages, announcing a distinctly odd prize amount - $3,739,056.33!!!!!

Is that one of those reflections I've read so much about? I've not been focusing on 3.6 mill consciously, but it has perhaps lodged in the back of my mind.

The whole thing just seems profoundly strange - since when are prize amounts offered in such an odd form, aside from this particular amount being so close to the random choice of the author?

[Strem2]

Originally Posted by Wax Frog

Update/question:

In the previously-referenced set of free e-books, the author uses the figure of 3.6 million as a target for money manifestation.

Just a short while ago, I noticed an ad in the sweepstakes-affiliated search window I have set as one of my homepages, announcing a distinctly odd prize amount - $3,739,056.33!!!!!

Is that one of those reflections I've read so much about? I've not been focusing on 3.6 mill consciously, but it has perhaps lodged in the back of my mind.

The whole thing just seems profoundly strange - since when are prize amounts offered in such an odd form, aside from this particular amount being so close to the random choice of the author?

Talk about magic pixie dust! I hope that you took action....

[Jack]

I am not able to feel the feelings I should feel while visualizing.I think it is cause of anti-depressants I take.Are these anti-depressants sabotaging my manifestations?

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by Strem2

Talk about magic pixie dust! I hope that you took action....

All it takes with the site in question is to make sure I'm logged in and then do a search

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by Jack

I am not able to feel the feelings I should feel while visualizing.I think it is cause of anti-depressants I take.Are these anti-depressants sabotaging my manifestations?

I was on a number of different anti-depressants over my teen and young adult years; while they kept me on an even keel, I definitely was able to experience happiness and excitement. I don't know your situation, but I would think meds themselves wouldn't stop you.

One idea I had when I ran into difficulty working myself up was to think of, or do, something that would give me the feeling I want, then transit to visualizing while holding that feeling.

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by Wax Frog

[*]Is it necessary to work up a great deal of excitement, or is it enough to simply feel positive?

To be honest, while specifically doing a visualisation, I've never found positive emotion to be all that important. In my own experience, at the time of visualisaing, it seems more important to be clear and focused, rather than happy or excited.

For me, feeling positive is more important as a general thing. That is, it's not that critical during the actual lie-down-&-visualise session, but it's important to generally feel positive and good, as you go about your daily routine.

I find I am somewhat less ecstatic (but still happy) about my current target, as I've been using it for about two weeks now; is it effective to get excited about a different thought, then hold that feeling while switching back to the target thought?

I've tried that before, the results are not clear to me. But I know that they do funny things like that in NLP.

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

To be honest, while specifically doing a visualisation, I've never found positive emotion to be all that important. In my own experience, at the time of visualisaing, it seems more important to be clear and focused, rather than happy or excited.

Maybe, but this does seem to help me fuel my effort and keep it going, especially my own particular way of generating emotion while meditating, which makes the process feel more 'magical'. Given my procrastinating/'slacker' and pessimistic tendencies of the past, I'd be foolish not to add this element in.

Whatever the truth of the matter, I have also been working at making an 'up' mood the norm.

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All these "how to do IM/LoA" debates make me feel like I'm attending a cooking contest; the competitors insist their flavorings and method of cooking are best, but I frankly don't care who's right, as long as everything tastes good and I know I'm getting some (see: signature)! Oh, and if it tastes better with ketchup, I'm adding ketchup, even if it's not needed!

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...they do funny things like that in NLP.

[Wax Frog]

Ah, now there's an idea for an interesting thread - gather all the 'pure' IM adherents and dig out the consensus on what works (if there is one; if not, I'll manifest it, darn it ).

[Wax Frog]

A feeling like sparks running up and down my chest and arms (and I'm sure it's not just hair standing on end, as I feel it in my fingertips as well) - is something like that part of the alpha state experience of others?

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by Wax Frog

A feeling like sparks running up and down my chest and arms (and I'm sure it's not just hair standing on end, as I feel it in my fingertips as well) - is something like that part of the alpha state experience of others?

Tingles, right. Yes ....